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OK, just got the LG OPTIMUS LTE (3rd day) and I have to say that I knew about the battery issue but didn't think it was that bad. I seem to need to recharge it 3 times during the day.
Do any of you have a magic configuration? What settings do you have configured.
My wifi is on when I am in the house. When I leave should I turn it off? Bluetooth is always on as I use it in the house an car. Screen at 50% brightness. Sleeptimer 1 minute.
Also read that with time the battery gets better. Any validaty to this?
Thanks in advance for your help
Yeah man, its not the greatest.. i try and turn brightness down alot while I'm inside. And a Gladi cut diem on game play unless you're beat a charger. Only place i have wifi on its at home. Also, I've heard that I've cream sandwich improves battery life, which Canadians are getting in q2.. So I'm suspecting it to come very soon.
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Yes, ICS will improve battery life but until them I'm be purchase a 1.8amp power adaptor and a wall car adaptor at Best Buy. When MugenBattery finally do a battery that is over 3000 mamp I will buy it.
I really am loving my new phone a part for battery life just need to change old habits (had a blackberry that I charged once every 2 days)
Literally same here, i had a bold 9780 before this and i didn't use it much it would last days on end.
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Cam R said:
Literally same here, i had a bold 9780 before this and i didn't use it much it would last days on end.
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yeah agreed, this is the best phone i have ever used, but the battery is a bit anoying, what i did was i bought 2x replacement batteries on ebay, which came with a wall charger for them, so i bring 3 batteries to work every day, the only anoying thing is charging them at the end of the day because i only hvae 1 wall charger, if i got 2 i coulda charged all 3 at once. the other thing is when doing this its smart to calibrate batteries more often since changing batteries in and out of phone i calibrate them all on the weekend.
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yeah agreed, this is the best phone i have ever used, but the battery is a bit anoying, what i did was i bought 2x replacement batteries on ebay, which came with a wall charger for them, so i bring 3 batteries to work every day, the only anoying thing is charging them at the end of the day because i only hvae 1 wall charger, if i got 2 i coulda charged all 3 at once. the other thing is when doing this its smart to calibrate batteries more often since changing batteries in and out of phone i calibrate them all on the weekend.
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Go here and download the FAST DORMANCY app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021248
After you download and install it open the app, select disable and reboot. It will make a dramatic difference in standby battery life. Only thing is it will only work if you are on stock and not on any of the CM 9/10 variants. Since I downloaded the app I can go all day on a single charge. Good news though you don't have to be rooted.
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Go here and download the FAST DORMANCY app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021248
After you download and install it open the app, select disable and reboot. It will make a dramatic difference in standby battery life. Only thing is it will only work if you are on stock and not on any of the CM 9/10 variants. Since I downloaded the app I can go all day on a single charge. Good news though you don't have to be rooted.
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Is there a quick fix like this for those of us running CM ROMs?
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I've seen a similar subject for other phones but not for the GNex. I bought some OEM batteries off eBay and turns out they're fake... not only does the NFC not work but they also put out 3.8 volts where the real battery puts out 3.7... Does anyone know if this is safe to use. I really don't want to jack up my phone from using a bogus battery.
With other phones it seems that the main problem is the battery will not charge fully unless charged in the dock. I've used the battery long enough to check the voltage and if the NFC worked then took it out.
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I'm not sure about the gnex specifically. I have an extended battery in my G2 and on "battery widget" it says it's 4.19V, on the battery the label reads 3.7VDC. It is a ebay china battery. I can't say if the widget is accurate or not, but I haven't had any issues on my phone.
Lithium batteries fully charge around 4.2v, 3.7-3.8v is for storing the battery long term. Since at that voltage there isn't much stress on the cells.
Thanks for the info. I'll just have to assume since the guy has sold quite a few of these china batteries that none have blown up yet or else it would have been reported on eBay.
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I am using the extended battery and nothing wrong with it haven't had any problems yet and its been 4 months
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Seems like all of a sudden my battery charges abnormally slow. I turned my phone completely off and only increased 5% in 30 minutes. The battery actually drains even when plugged up when I'm using it. This never happened before. Recently, before these charging problems arose, my battery died while talking on the phone. So i switched my battery with a another battery in a verizon galaxy s3 (my mom's). And i put the dead battery in her phone. I was going out and didn't have time to charge my battery. The next day i switched the batteries back. Would this have anything to do with the charging probelms?
I have the exact same problem. Take forever to charge and drain when using it while charging. I order a new oem battery from ebay and will see how it goes.
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Tried factory reset...didn't work. Couldn't try battery calibration yet since my battery has to be at 100%. I tried switching the cord, outlet and adapter and now its charging 5% in 10 minutes. Hopefully the problem has to do with one of those!
Yea try changing your cord. That seemed to have fixed my problem!
Would using 3rd party charger slow down charge or effect the battery in any way?
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Would using 3rd party charger slow down charge or effect the battery in any way?
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Using 3rd party charger shouldn't slow down your charge unless it doesn't give 1A
I switch back to oem charger and it charge faster than the 3rd party cable I been using for 1mnt. And it charge while I'm using it
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I have the same issue with some cables that I ordered from eBay. Apparently 6ft. cables don't charge the phone as well.
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Nice info.
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Had the same problem. Ordered a HTC Wildfire USB cable and works perfect now.
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For those that are experiencing slow charging, try this. Download Battery Monitor Widget from the playstore. In the settings go to calibration. There is an option for USB fast charge and it has worked on every rom I have tried.
The cable is usually the culprit, but I thought I would share this info also.
I've heard that fast charging diminishes your batteries life by half though.
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Actionx1 said:
I've heard that fast charging diminishes your batteries life by half though.
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Would you provide the links please? Fast charging works. Where exactly did you hear that?
http://youtu.be/v-lnhaCtodE
I've also read it various times around the forums but I have no idea in which threads.
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Hi,
Power Bank caused poor battery life, Wipe Battery Stats.
I thought I share my negative experience about using a power bank / portable phone recharger. I had bought a very cheap 5000mAh power bank from China on eBay. Sorry I no longer have eBay link but what I bought which was advertised as HTC One X compatible and it included a 1A power out USB port.
I charged the power bank and then charged my phone from 50 odd % to 100%. Then again from 37% and it only got as far as mid 50s% and the power bank ran out of juice. Afterwards charging my phone normally would take roughly 2 - 3 hours to charge and although it was showing 100% I would get no more than 5 - 6 hours of battery life. I put up with this for some time and eventually bought and installed a replacement battery which was authentic. I charged my phone and the same thing happened. No more than 6 hours of life. So I thought something had been ruined in my phone.
Anyway I have ViperX on my phone and last night noticed there had been a new version 3.6.1. I was in the ClockworkMod advanced settings to wipe the Dalvik Cache that I saw an option to Wipe the Battery Stats and the battery works perfectly.
Out of curiosity does anyone have any knowledge of what may have occurred with my battery/phone by using the power bank.
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Adrian.
I have the official HTC Powerbank and haven't noticed strange behavior yet.
What is cheap it doesn't mean that always good quality. First read review from people and read about company.
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PowerBank doesn't efficiently charge your battery, so it can't expect the same output that you get when you charge from a wall charger or a PC... and once you stop using the powerbank, it may take 2-3 battery cycles for the battery to settle down again!
I'm using Ambrane PowerBank (8000mAh) and I must say I'm pretty happy with it!
power banks mess up the percentage reading, I dont really think battery pack can degrade the battery in few charges. The last few percentages could last upto 1 day (it happened on my old android, the phone showed 33% for full day.) this is mainly because cheap power bank, runs at low voltage, and battery percent is measured by voltage.
Well..... With me Rule of Thumb when installing a new Rom or Battery would be to dona full drain then full charge then Wipe Batt Stats.... Every new Rom has a different battery affect on the unit that's why I wipe after an install.... Also don't forget if you install apps.... That could also drain your batteries more than others... I personally don't think it's the power source.. Meaning the power bank..... Weather it's charging at 300mAh or 500mAh or at 1A....100% on your battery is 100% no matter where you're getting the charge from... Kinda like filling up a cup.... Weather you're using a teaspoon or tablespoon or a tap to fill the cup.... When it's full it's full.... Really the only difference in chargers is the more output going to your battery the faster your phone will charge....
That's what leads me to say it's the software being flashed to the phone.... Not all are "battery friendly".... So after flashing.... Do a full charge then wipe the battery stats.....
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Just FYI but i recall reading somewhere (its on here somewhere) from an Android engineer, that the battery stats are automatically wiped on reboot and also when the phone is fully charged, so any effects from manually wiping the stats is more of a placebo.
Unless they've changed it all recently.. It was probably about a year ago that I read about it
Edit: here's the link : https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Just FYI but i recall reading somewhere (its on here somewhere) from an Android engineer, that the battery stats are automatically wiped on reboot and also when the phone is fully charged, so any effects from manually wiping the stats is more of a placebo.
Unless they've changed it all recently.. It was probably about a year ago that I read about it
Edit: here's the link : https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Ok.... Well I'm no engineer.... But I mainly did it going from the stock 1800mAh to the 5000mAh on my Note GT-N7000
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Just asking so is it advisable to use powerbanks? Will it damage the already battered battery that HOX has?
From my experience I would say go ahead.... I use the cheap 20,000mAh power banks from eBay at a cost of $20 and have had no issues... The bank has 2 USB charging ports with outputs of 1 & 2 amps.... I used the 1 amp for my HTC One X & now the 2amp port for my Note 3.... NO issues.... I use the charger bout an hour a day all week and charge the bank once a week....
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From my experience I would say go ahead.... I use the cheap 20,000mAh power banks from eBay at a cost of $20 and have had no issues... The bank has 2 USB charging ports with outputs of 1 & 2 amps.... I used the 1 amp for my HTC One X & now the 2amp port for my Note 3.... NO issues.... I use the charger bout an hour a day all week and charge the bank once a week....
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what if am using a wall charger output 2A ?
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what if am using a wall charger output 2A ?
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the phone won't draw 2A so it is fine to use
Thanks
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power bank
i'd been using a few different power banks, but never noticed any difference in battery life
I would like to ask of you guys if it is safe to use the phone while connected to a power bank or wall charger?
Hello Adrian,
I too faced the same problem. I have charged my Samsung Galaxy Tab T310 with MI portable charger 10400mah. my tablet charged with in 2-3 hours but the battery started draining very very fast. later I came to remember the basic rule of checking the output of the portable charger(2.1Amp) and input required by my tablet(2.0 Amp). I think this variation is resulting in battery drain.
using a power bank
You should buy one good quality power bank
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Hi,
Power Bank caused poor battery life, Wipe Battery Stats.
I thought I share my negative experience about using a power bank / portable phone recharger. I had bought a very cheap 5000mAh power bank from China on eBay. Sorry I no longer have eBay link but what I bought which was advertised as HTC One X compatible and it included a 1A power out USB port.
I charged the power bank and then charged my phone from 50 odd % to 100%. Then again from 37% and it only got as far as mid 50s% and the power bank ran out of juice. Afterwards charging my phone normally would take roughly 2 - 3 hours to charge and although it was showing 100% I would get no more than 5 - 6 hours of battery life. I put up with this for some time and eventually bought and installed a replacement battery which was authentic. I charged my phone and the same thing happened. No more than 6 hours of life. So I thought something had been ruined in my phone.
Anyway I have ViperX on my phone and last night noticed there had been a new version 3.6.1. I was in the ClockworkMod advanced settings to wipe the Dalvik Cache that I saw an option to Wipe the Battery Stats and the battery works perfectly.
Out of curiosity does anyone have any knowledge of what may have occurred with my battery/phone by using the power bank.
Thanks
Adrian.
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Being cheap doesn't mean good quality.
I got a 20000mAh power bank from avantek in amazon after my friend's advice.
it really works and i see no harm to the phone, though a little expensive ($49.99) for me.
Power banks use a charger, or not, to store power in some media (battery, capacitors, etc) internally and can transfer that energy to another item (cell phone, pad, etc) at any time without further muss or fuss.
Portable chargers will require some active source where they are used other than what they carry with them. Connection to a car power port, setting up a solar panel in sunlight, etc. will be required at the time and place of use.
A notable exception to this is the solar chargers DIY types are whipping up these days. They do both things, it would seem. They carry the small solar panel to produce the energy and a small set of rechargeable batteries to capture it for later use. I suppose you would have to classify these as hybrid charger power bank systems.
One carries a power source connection or generation circuit with it only and the other carries a bank of storage devices to draw from at any time.
I hope that this will help you understand the difference better. Good luck!
From my experience with different power banks I can see great difference in them in 3 different ways:
Controllers for power-in
Good quality controller will be able to work with different sources of power (0.5A, 1A, 2A, 3A) and voltages (5V, 9V, 12V - lick Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0)., will protect agains overcharge & overheat. Cheap controllers may not protect overcharge or overheat - so may cause fire and damage.
Cells
There ma be 2 problems with cells: 1) overstated capacity - often happens on ebay that you get a "10000" mah powerbank which is more close to 4000mAh in reality. 2) Cell Quality - good cell can do 750-1500 full charge-recharge cycles before noticeable degradation of capacity. Bad quality cells will degrade after 50-100 cycles. Also had a battery which started to degrade after just 2-3 weeks.
Controllers for power-out
This part is very important for efficiency rate. Efficiency rate is a figure showing how much real capacity you will get from the powerbank. Why? Powerbank cells will provide you with current between 3.2 - 4.2 Volts. This needs to be converted to 5.0V so that the phone can accept it. Cheap bad quality controllers will loose 30-50% of power just in conversion. Good Quality (and more expensive) will loose 15-20% only.
So as You can see, from manufacturer point of view: if you want to create a dirt cheap battery, you can do it, but at the cost of less safety, less capacity and less final power in the phone. So be careful when buying cheap powerbanks - You will get what You pay for!
ok guys you can laugh as much as you want but i did it lol . i used to have the nexus that google used to sell which was a great phone i had 2 backup batteries for the phone . i was looking at my note two and note 3 and was looking at the difference in battery in each one and found a way to run the nexus battery on the note 2 and the note 3 lol it looks ghetto but works and i never have to run to charger. look at the pics
you can see the size difference in the battery size is major but the battery for the nexus does last pretty damn good for some reason. on the nexus battery on the side where the metal connections are i shaved off the tabs on that side look at pics lol
R.I.P batteries or Note 3. :| Lol.
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R.I.P batteries or Note 3. :| Lol.
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Well the battery from the nexus was just sitting in my desk not being used being that ibsold the nexus . So I was like wait will this work in my note 2 and 3 it did. Very little mods needed yo be done other then shaving a peace of wood or plastic to hold the battery in place and shaving the tabs on one side off so it would sit flush against the pins .
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What capacity is the spare battery
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Its a 1750mAh
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Its a 1750mAh
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Half the capacity and an older battery lasting longer ..........
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Its def lasting atleast half the day and I was suprised when it did .
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I commend you for the idea here but I think we would like to see a screenshot of the battery usage stats.
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Half the capacity and an older battery lasting longer ..........
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Sure do you recommend a program to mesure how the battery performs.
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Ghetto fabulous.
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I modified mine to run off of 3 AAA duracell batteries. Back cover bulges out though... maybe ill try this instead
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It might run okay for now, but in the end you'll blow up the battery and make the phone unstable. The GN3 battery is 3.8V while the GNex battery is 3.7V. Yes, that 0.1V makes a difference - the phone will charge the GNex battery with a too high voltage which can cause it to overheat and swell. The phone running off 3.7V will be underpowered and might or might not randomly crash.
This thread scares me....
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It might run okay for now, but in the end you'll blow up the battery and make the phone unstable. The GN3 battery is 3.8V while the GNex battery is 3.7V. Yes, that 0.1V makes a difference - the phone will charge the GNex battery with a too high voltage which can cause it to overheat and swell. The phone running off 3.7V will be underpowered and might or might not randomly crash.
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It's not that big of a deal. Lithium batteries have an upper limit of 4.2 Volts which is why if you use a general purpose charger such as those used for charging RC packs you can charge Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries both on the same setting. Either way it charges them up to 4.2V and then cuts off. Once a load is applied, the battery drops to its nominal voltage - 3.7 or 3.8V and remains at that level for most of its life before rapidly dropping off when it gets low. When this happens cut-off circuitry kicks in around 3.2V or so to prevent the battery from discharging too much which will permanently damage it. Since the battery can't be safely charged above 4.2 or let drop below 3.2 or so, all the charging and discharging is managed by a chip designed for that purpose. Also, it means that you can't overcharge your battery by leaving your phone plugged in 24/7 as the charging chip will stop charging when it reaches that upper limit.
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It's not that big of a deal. Lithium batteries have an upper limit of 4.2 Volts which is why if you use a general purpose charger such as those used for charging RC packs you can charge Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries both on the same setting. Either way it charges them up to 4.2V and then cuts off.
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Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.7 voltage should be charged to 4.20 V or so.
Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.8 voltage are typically charged to 4.30 or 4.35 V. It's a new type of lithium ion battery with different chemistry, and hence the different voltages. If you take a battery meant to be charged to 4.20 V and repeatedly charge it to 4.35 V, its cycle life will be significantly reduced. 0.1 V difference will reduce the cycle life by something on the order of 50%. Here is a reference: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Apple, Samsung, and Motorola seem to be using this new type of battery, and the phones are charging them to 4.30 or 4.35 V. I'm not sure how widespread the technology is or if it has trickled into aftermarket battery offerings.
I commend you for your work and glad your getting more battery life with this mod but I'm sure most of us are fine with the life of the phone stock gives us without any modifications or just wait til zero lemon releases their behemoth 10k mah battery with zero shock case to protect the phone.
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awesome. this means i will probably be able to stick 4pin samsung batteries in my note2. must be sure the 3 pins on the note2 correctly connect pos and neg with the plates on the 4-pin batteries. in a few years the note2 replacement batteries on ebay will have shorter lifespan due to storage in the warehouse. instead i may purchase a battery for a then current model (such as galaxy s6 battery) and stick that that in my note2.
Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.7 voltage should be charged to 4.20 V or so.
Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.8 voltage are typically charged to 4.30 or 4.35 V. It's a new type of lithium ion battery with different chemistry, and hence the different voltages. If you take a battery meant to be charged to 4.20 V and repeatedly charge it to 4.35 V, its cycle life will be significantly reduced. 0.1 V difference will reduce the cycle life by something on the order of 50%. Here is a reference: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Apple, Samsung, and Motorola seem to be using this new type of battery, and the phones are charging them to 4.30 or 4.35 V. I'm not sure how widespread the technology is or if it has trickled into aftermarket battery offerings.
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But with this new 'smart battery' and 'smart charger' system it seems very likely that the battery's capabilities are read by the charger so that the charger will not cause damage. It might be that the charger will adjust the charging protocol if it can support the battery's needs, or perhaps refuse to charge an unsupported battery. I think if he measures the charging voltage he might find that it is different for the two batteries.
Frank
Thanks to this, I will have more battery life. Cheers! Just kidding!
Thanks
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