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Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys
duke911 said:
Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys
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I just left AT&T due to extremely poor customer service. AT&T is the only carrier that offers rollover minutes, but their 3G coverage is spotty, and when switching from 3G to Edge or vise versa, you will experience a lot of dropped calls. If you want to use your phone as a modem with AT&T you have to get a tethering plan which will run you $60/month. Verizon has a much larger 3G coverage area, and you don't have to worry about the network being burdened by iPhone users. Sprint has rolled out 4G coverage in some areas with plans to expand. Sprint has cheaper calling plans, but their subsidized phone prices are higher. All in all, do your research, and check online for reviews of coverage, network speed, and customer service.
1. reception obviously varies by location. VZW probably has the best claim to the best nationwide coverage--their business model has very much focused on network building, and up until very recently, their phone selection sucked because they didn't invest as much in securing great smartphones. Alternatively, ATT has focused investment heavily on having great phones, and haven't focused investment as much on building any of their networks.
That said, ATT has great phone reception in a lots of metropolitan areas. There might even be some areas where they have better coverage. And while their 3G data coverage isn't nearly as broad, where it exists, it has been tested as being the fastest (especially when you're not using an iPhone).
2. No, all wireless carriers have a cap of some kind. Further most will charge an extra $30ish a month on top of the $30ish a month for smartphone data for tethering (using your phone as a modem), and they'll still have a data cap.
3. I don't know VZW's plans.
ive been with ATT for YEARS and their costumer service can kiss my ass because i never use it. why? because they offer best reception where im at. why would i want to find out how good t-mobiles costumer service is? i just want a reliable network. all carriers have crappy prices and conditions here. just find the one that works for you and dont listen to what anyone else says. why would you care if verizon has 3g in montana and att doesnt if you live in LA?? its irrelevant. find the least crappy one for you and stick with it.
Do some research on the difference between CDMA and GSM networks. One may work better than another in certain situations.
T-Mobile has cheap rate plans and free tethering.
Sprint has a WiMax network rolling out, although all of the carriers are working on LTE or some other standard of 4G- Not really a concern at this point, since few phones support it.
Verizon has the best customer satisfaction ratings, but their phones are often locked down with software.
AT&T has a history of dropping calls, but has the fastest recorded data speeds.
No matter whom you may chose, you will end up disappointed over some facet or another. You will need to get DSL or some other form of land-based internet, unless you can keep yourself constrained to the 5GB data caps that ALL of the carriers have.
I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers
duke911 said:
I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers
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Yeah, it's kind of misleading. The Verizon Touch Pro2 is actually a CDMA/GSM hybrid device, which works on Verizon's CDMA network or any GSM network. In theory, you should be able to use it on any GSM network in any country as long as you have a valid SIM card.
you cant trust advertising. it makes it appear that all options are shiney. verizon claims all of its wireless technologies as 3g no matter what they are, whether they have speeds slower than atts 2g or worse. the verizon touch pro will not actually work in the us or canada on gsm. you also need to pay for vodofone service separately to get international coverage. you can flash a radio that will let you use atts network but youll loose the cdma network verizon uses. sprints 4g network is not as promising as i hoped. its slower than atts 3g network and to use it you have to buy a $10 1-day pass that will let you use 4g in about 10 or so cities. its also not on any phones. in terms of data or unlimited plans, i would probably have to recommend t-mobile. even though i think they have the ugliest version of the touch pro 2. verizon does limit there unlimited plans to 4gb a month i think. and yes att is the only one with roll over. i never use my minutes so i up to about 10000 minutes rolled over. i will never be charged overage as long as i live.
I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
So I signed up with Verizon, which did not even sell phones within a hundred miles of where I would be using it. That was in March of 2007. I went to Alaska for 16 months where it roamed constantly. Not a peep from Verizon about not being on their network. When going to a remote village for more than a month where no cell phone would work, I would just call them and they would suspend my phone for the time I was there. No bill at all and no charge for turning it off. So I have to say the customer support from Verizon is the best there is and ATT is the absolute worst.
texascbx said:
I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
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they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.
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they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
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Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.
thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that.
I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)?
I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
Cheers
duke911 said:
thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that. I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)? I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
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I purchased my VZW off contract. Unsubsidized is probably about $500.
Different carriers have different rules for their prepaid services. With GSM carriers, TMo and ATT, it's easy to pop a prepaid sim into any phone. With CDMA (Sprint and VZW), I'm not sure. Best bet is to call and ask.
well i had sprint for ever...I switched to tmobile.. to get that tp2 free through wmdeals.com even though coverage sucks at my house im happy.. I have wifi for data when im home.. when i leave my home i have edge service everwhere.. til i start getting close to mesquite ( texas ) it goes to 3g.. but edge works great with opera mini.. and for updating certain things.. but so far tmobile rocks..
The Jack of Clubs said:
they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.
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That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.
I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
anyway... I like really the verizon version of the Touch Pro 2..
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
I never used CDMA before, and after reading some info, I think GSM is better for me, at least for now...
duke911 said:
I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
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You never know with reps. I seem to recall that VZW's prepaid might have some unlimited data intended for dumbphones, which of course they wouldn't want you to use with a smartphone.
There are MVNOs, like Page Plus, that use VZW's network, but have prepaid plans where they probably wouldn't be concerned about smartphone usage (pay per kb instead of unlimited).
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
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You can get it unlocked here and use it on ATT or TMo (minus 3g, 2g data still works), and as to whether you can cancel after the fact without penalty, it depends on exactly what you signed up for at VZW.
texascbx said:
That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.
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Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.
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well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.
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well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.
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Well, that's not entirely true. AT&T devices can use T-Mobile's network, just not HSPA (3G), and vice versa. Before I got my 8925, my main phone was an old T-Mobile Blackberry 7200 which I unlocked to use on AT&T. It could make phone calls and browse at EDGE speeds just fine. The 3G bands are f*cked up internationally since they often differ by country and carrier, but the EDGE and basic GSM bands are pretty much compatible with any GSM phone (since most GSM phones are Tri-band or Quad-band capable).
In addition, it's perfectly possible to use another network in the same country. If a company like AT&T doesn't have infrastructure in a remote area and wants to add service there, they'll often strike a deal with a local carrier who does. It's usually a seamless transition for the user, and it doesn't generally cost the user a cent. Rather, AT&T is the one paying the local cellular operator for allowing the AT&T customers use the local carrier's network as opposed to the alternative of having no coverage in that area. AT&T got mad at texascbx because he was costing AT&T money by roaming on these local carriers, which AT&T had to pay.
Lastly, I know people who live near the borders and they always are careful to see which operator they are using. One of them lives near the Mexican border, and has to make sure he's on AT&T's network before he makes a call. If he doesn't check, he might be roaming on the TelMex network and will get billed outrageous fees for a simple call, even though he's in the US.
I was at the mall today, and I talked to a T-Mobile guy, and he said I can get the T-mobile version of touch pro 2 for full retail, and I can use it with their prepaid plan without any porblems.
Then I spoke with a Verizon representative, and he said that I can't do that on their network, however I can buy the device with out a contract and without any plan...
So my Final question (and I guess fortunz answered before,but I still feel like asking coz I don't want to through 500$ away)... If I get the Verizon Touch Pro 2, and get it unlocked here
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578642
will I be able to use it with any carrier?? prepaid or plan??
I don't really mind about the data, as I'll be using WiFi mainly
Thanks a lot
So I've decdied to make the switch to sprint and boycott these scammers! VZW just throttled my connection because I reached 1gb in data, half of my shared data. something a Verizon rep swore they never practice unlike Sprint. I asked a Sprint rep and she mentioned they don't charge for overages like Big Red, they notify you and lower your speeds.
Can anyone else confirm that Sprint throttles coconnections and not just for overages? I'd like a little more info before I switch over. Thanks in advance.
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Sprint does not throttle. At one point I used about 20+ GB a month for 3 months and never got throttled. Same on verizon before I gave my line to my gf. I would use about 80+ GB a month for 9 months and I was never told anything
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Yea if they even attempt to throttle it that means you're watching waaaaaay too much porn or you're watching way too much HD porn lol :crying:
They can't throttle 0.5kbps lol
It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
Yeah, Verizon has some really scumbaggy business practices as I've seen before. They will do anything legal to be able to get the most of your money.
Sprint doesn't do most of the crap that VZW does. There have been 0 documented cases of someone being throttled, even when this one guy reached 1TB of data on 4G, all they did was send him a letter asking him to stop. I usually go around 20-50GB on 3G per month and I haven't been throttled or anything.
One thing to watch out for is that speeds can be slow - Depending on where you live, you could be getting either 200kbps or 2000kbps.. A lot of markets are undergoing backhaul increase and other network vision enhancements. During this period, a lot of places can get to really low speeds. After it, however, there will probably be a consistent 1000-2000kbps everywhere on 3G.
Not to mention that they also plan to cover most of their existing 3G places with LTE by the end of 2014 so you won't have to care about speed after 2014 - It'll always be consistent LTE speeds.
Where are you located at? If you are in a good Sprint area or even better... a new LTE area... you should have switched yesterday. But I'd read into more so you not disappointed. Sprint is far better on a lot of things. But 3G speeds can be slow at times. I am a big fan of theirs.
My overall experience.
1. Sprint
2. T-Mobile
3. Verizon
4. ... any others...
5. AT&T
Lol
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I just switch two weeks ago from Verizon to Sprint because of the crap Verizon is doing.
I will say this Verizon's network and data speeds smoke Sprint's but I'm not willing to deal with Verizon's BS anymore.
I have found some places I go it takes longer for a web page to load on Sprint but nothing I can't deal with.
I even paid Verizon almost $1100.00 in ETF's for my 5 lines just to get away from them.
All in all I'm good with Sprint and so far happy I made the switch.
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Sprint would need faster data speeds to be able to actually throttle them. As it is now, its just a slight step above a 56k modem.
I'm in pretty much the same boat as bp328i. I moved from VZ to Sprint just about a month ago because of all the "Share Everything" garbage at VZ. I am fortunate in that I live near Chicago and although they have not officially rolled out 4G they are already in the testing phase so I get 4GLTE about 90% of the time. When it is up, it is great, but there are some significant "holes" in their coverage. I guess, at least while I'm here in my local area, I am pleased with Sprint and its unlimited data, etc. So I'm not sorry that I made the move.
That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I'm with you on this, if Sprint gets rid of unlimited I'll be right back to Verizon. If my only choice is a limited data plan I'll might as well have the best coverage.
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hayzooos said:
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I think Sprint will retain its unlimited smartphone plans. But they may well crack down harder on unauthorized tethering, which is a violation of the current terms. (I hope they do.) I'll bet that since Verizon and AT&T have moved to close down their unlimited plans, the tethering pirates have migrated even more to Sprint to take advantage of the last remaining opportunity. Enforcing the contract better against abuse can keep unlimited smartphone contracts viable, and I understand the new network will provide better tools for detecting it.
Thx guys, going with Sprint. I'm already 3/4 up on my data for this month (Easytether PRO) and unlimited with Sprint is just about as much as 2GB w/VZW.
Shibby87 said:
It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I hope Sprint looks for the same thing then. I don't have a problem with people who tether now and again when in a bind, but I'm not a fan of those who tether just because they can and abuse the crap out of it. If that keeps happening, Sprint will ditch their unlimited data too, or worse, lock/encrypt bootloaders so it's tougher to root your phone and get free tethering.
IAmSixNine said:
The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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raiderep said:
I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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Agreed, with Verizon, I was usually within 1-5GB depending on WiFi, I rarely exceeded 5GB, and the first time I used BitTorrent was for stock touchwiz. Those of us who use hotspot/tethering daily, Sprint seems most logical.
Technically, Verizon has no right to block 3rd party tethering apps and actually just paid out $1.25 million for trying to
Verizon Wireless To Pay $1.25 Million To Settle Investigation
Verizon Wireless offers customers its 4G LTE service on C Block spectrum. Verizon Wireless bid at
auction to acquire that spectrum, understanding that it was accompanied by open device and application
obligations. Specifically, licensees offering service on C Block spectrum “shall not deny, limit, or restrict
the ability of their customers to use the devices and applications of their choice on the licensee’s C Block
network,” subject to narrow exceptions.
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Guys, just got off the phone with Verizon to transfer my number to Sprint, they asked why, I told them I was dissatisfied with their share packages and viola, they added my old unlimited plan back, strait 4G LTE, no sharing. Just thought I'd share my mediocre victory with Verizon. If you have VZW and hate their share packages, you can try telling Verizon your swiching to Sprint and see if they let you into their unlimited grandfathered data plans
If so, why? My friend who lives on my block has a GS3 on Verizon and has FULL BARS of 4G LTE. Me on the other hand on Sprint, I need an Airave at my house (got it from Sprint for free; that's how bad the service is lol) or I'll just be roaming on Verizon's network. I wanna switch to Verizon, but their family plan is like DOUBLED the cost of Sprint's family plan. Anyone have any recommendations?
P.S.- Sorry if I posted this in the incorrect place.
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If so, why? My friend who lives on my block has a GS3 on Verizon and has FULL BARS of 4G LTE. Me on the other hand on Sprint, I need an Airave at my house (got it from Sprint for free; that's how bad the service is lol) or I'll just be roaming on Verizon's network. I wanna switch to Verizon, but their family plan is like DOUBLED the cost of Sprint's family plan. Anyone have any recommendations?
P.S.- Sorry if I posted this in the incorrect place.
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Mainly it's the struggle between cost and service quality. For my area, Sprint is doing pretty well in terms of upgrading their signal and providing LTE. Yes, it's still a bit slower than Verizon, but in my case the lower price point is well worth the hit in service. We're currently trying to get my mother-in-law on the family plan with us. She's currently with Verizon.
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Mainly it's the struggle between cost and service quality. For my area, Sprint is doing pretty well in terms of upgrading their signal and providing LTE. Yes, it's still a bit slower than Verizon, but in my case the lower price point is well worth the hit in service. We're currently trying to get my mother-in-law on the family plan with us. She's currently with Verizon.
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Definitely +1
And same. 3G is okay-ish in places I frequent, but you can't beat the unlimited data. I have friends who are on AT&T and Verizon and they get LTE way farther out than I do. But their data for the month gets used up in a matter of hours, while I can use however much I want.
Not to mention that the LTE rollout is also going well here. But I think Sprint is trolling me because LTE dies right as I'm passing the sign that indicates the entrance to my neighborhood LOL.
how did you get double the cost in verizon?
we have 3 smart phone and when I compare it to verizon it's only about 10~20 difference at the max (with 6gb data)
(currently with Sprint everything data 1500)
I guess you are using LOTS of data?
btw, I'm going to switch to Verizon sometime later this year and pay ETF. I too have airave at home and LTE is not coming for a while.
I was in tmobile when I switched from att and a representative told me that if I unlocked my s4 I wouldn't be affected by the data speed cap on the unlimited data plan, is that true? (Im on a verizon rom atm)
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Tyler.Boston1 said:
I was in tmobile when I switched from att and a representative told me that if I unlocked my s4 I wouldn't be affected by the data speed cap on the unlimited data plan, is that true? (Im on a verizon rom atm)
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If there is such a data cap throttle then it's a rumor. I use approximately 10 gigs. And never reach any throttle
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Ive used 75gb this month with no throttle whatsoever.
You get throttled on unlimited data after 9,999gb.
Friend that works at T Mobile said that.
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I've just realized that tmobile messed up our plan when I signed for unlimited I got the 2.5 gb of data, sorry mistake on my part. I should have had unlimited to begin with.
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Rumor has it.............
Most likely propaganda put out by other carriers, and double agents posing as reps working for T-Mobile stores
No 4G LTE data throttling here. Last month used 42gb
When I hit 9,999GB, I'll let ya know lol!
So if you have the 4G unlimited you wont get throttled but if you get lets say the 2gig data plan and go over you will right?
im getting T-Mobile since ATT rapes you with data charges and stuff.
i want to know how slow will you get throttled down?
2G or 3G??
i wouldnt mind 3G... its unlimited so who cares but if they go all the way down to 2G then might as well get the 4G unlimited right?
jayRokk said:
So if you have the 4G unlimited you wont get throttled but if you get lets say the 2gig data plan and go over you will right?
im getting T-Mobile since ATT rapes you with data charges and stuff.
i want to know how slow will you get throttled down?
2G or 3G??
i wouldnt mind 3G... its unlimited so who cares but if they go all the way down to 2G then might as well get the 4G unlimited right?
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I'm unsure about the 2G, 3G but for $20/mo. for Unlimited 4G LTE, you can't go wrong.
I left Sprint after 14 years, a few months or so ago because their data speeds sucked where I was, and LTE was non existent, in addition to always dropping voice calls, and getting really tired of their empty promises and excuses. I went over to Verizon for a few months knowing that they crap on you with their data pricing, but I had heard negative things about T-Mobile, and Atnt would be like Verizon re pricing. I decided to check out T-Mobile for myself because the negative comments were from a while ago, and Verizon was crapping all over me with their outrageous pricing.
So I went into a T-Mobile store, purchased an S4 to try out in the real world for their 14 day trial period, and after 2 days, ported over.
In my experience, T-Mobile has been the best regarding their plan pricing.
Coverage for the areas I frequent has been excellent, and that is what is most important. Once you see you have excellent coverage, T-Mobile is a done deal
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So if you have the 4G unlimited you wont get throttled but if you get lets say the 2gig data plan and go over you will right?
im getting T-Mobile since ATT rapes you with data charges and stuff.
i want to know how slow will you get throttled down?
2G or 3G??
i wouldnt mind 3G... its unlimited so who cares but if they go all the way down to 2G then might as well get the 4G unlimited right?
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It goes down to 2G I had the 2GB and I went over... so slow... but now I have the unlimited 4g lte. Im at 28 gigs no throttle
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Biker1 said:
I'm unsure about the 2G, 3G but for $20/mo. for Unlimited 4G LTE, you can't go wrong.
I left Sprint after 14 years, a few months or so ago because their data speeds sucked where I was, and LTE was non existent, in addition to always dropping voice calls, and getting really tired of their empty promises and excuses. I went over to Verizon for a few months knowing that they crap on you with their data pricing, but I had heard negative things about T-Mobile, and Atnt would be like Verizon re pricing. I decided to check out T-Mobile for myself because the negative comments were from a while ago, and Verizon was crapping all over me with their outrageous pricing.
So I went into a T-Mobile store, purchased an S4 to try out in the real world for their 14 day trial period, and after 2 days, ported over.
In my experience, T-Mobile has been the best regarding their plan pricing.
Coverage for the areas I frequent has been excellent, and that is what is most important. Once you see you have excellent coverage, T-Mobile is a done deal
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Yeah im upgrading to an S4 (from an s3 on ATT) and getting the Mrs an S4 as well (from an iPhone on Sprint)
ATT coverage is good, but damn 200$ a month alone with ATT with limited data and with dropped calls and crappy service/coverage from sprint
we had enough lol
with 210$ i can have the two lines on T-Mo with unlimited 4G LTE (Since Phoenix is covered :good: ) ........yeah im switching now as i type lol
jayRokk said:
Yeah im upgrading to an S4 (from an s3 on ATT) and getting the Mrs an S4 as well (from an iPhone on Sprint)
ATT coverage is good, but damn 200$ a month alone with ATT with limited data and with dropped calls and crappy service/coverage from sprint
we had enough lol
with 210$ i can have the two lines on T-Mo with unlimited 4G LTE (Since Phoenix is covered :good: ) ........yeah im switching now as i type lol
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Even though the map says your covered, you really have to try out the service in the areas you most frequent, either with someone else's S4 (which you may have done already) or during your trial period. But I'm sure you're already aware of that.
I go with the carrier with the best coverage and pricing that will benefit me the most.
I gotta say that if T-Mobile continues on the path they are now regarding overage, plans, pricing, etc., I'd like to see them pull more Verizon, Atnt, and Sprint customers away from their carriers.
The T-Mobile of today is not the T-Mobile of yesterday, and that's the albatross they have to shake off, but I think they're well on their way.
I think they're already shaking up the industry with their no contract plans, upgrading availability 2x a year, etc, as the other carriers are following their lead.
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Even though the map says your covered, you really have to try out the service in the areas you most frequent, either with someone else's S4 (which you may have done already) or during your trial period. But I'm sure you're already aware of that.
I go with the carrier with the best coverage and pricing that will benefit me the most.
I gotta say that if T-Mobile continues on the path they are now regarding overage, plans, pricing, etc., I'd like to see them pull more Verizon, Atnt, and Sprint customers away from their carriers.
The T-Mobile of today is not the T-Mobile of yesterday, and that's the albatross they have to shake off, but I think they're well on their way.
I think they're already shaking up the industry with their no contract plans, upgrading availability 2x a year, etc, as the other carriers are following their lead.
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I will give the trial period a chance but im more than sure ill stay with T-Mo.
i do agree T-Mo isnt what it used to be. Back then there was so much negativity, and bat talk about it, but it seems like theyre on a better track
and the whole no contract is a plus!
Hey all,
I've waited out two generations of this phone in order to get this one but I'm currently on AT&T and my contract is up. The AT&T version has a locked bootloader and from the looks of it, it won't be getting root any time soon. I'm contemplating on whether I should go with the Sprint or Tmobile. How do you guys like this phone on the sprint network?
Are there any issues with wifi tethering with this phone (without paying extra for it)? Has anyone come from AT&T and regretted it?
I'm in the NYC area and I've had Sprint on my company's BB which had pretty good service. How is the service where you are.
This is kinda big decision for me because I've been with AT&T for over 17 years now and I'm going to lose my unlimited data if/when I switch. I know Sprint still offers it but AT&T does not and I want to make sure I make the right decision.
Thank you all in advance
Sprint does not offer unlimited data anymore and they are even trying to convince existing users to switch from unlimited to 20GB shared. Not sure about your area but in mine Sprint always have some problems and excuses. Still I stick with them because of employee discount, current unlimited plan, and other carriers are just expensive (Verizon) or I had them on my "black list" (AT&T).
Check Sprint coverage in here http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Sprint still offers unlimited data.
erik077 said:
Sprint does not offer unlimited data anymore and they are even trying to convince existing users to switch from unlimited to 20GB shared. Not sure about your area but in mine Sprint always have some problems and excuses. Still I stick with them because of employee discount, current unlimited plan, and other carriers are just expensive (Verizon) or I had them on my "black list" (AT&T).
Check Sprint coverage in here http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
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Thanks for you input erik077. When I got a quote from the rep over the phone yesterday they were still offering the unlimited data plan. As a matter of fact the lady was even recommending that I get that instead of the shared 20gb plan. Still, I'm not entirely impressed with their coverage map. There are a lot of bare spots on that map for 4g coverage. But they seem to have good coverage around my home and work.
Anyone else like to chime in?
I have unlimited data and just got sprint. I was in the same shoes as you and I switched to sprint I kept going over my data limit and didn't want to worry about my data overages anymore so I switched to sprint! And now use more data than I ever did. And I get full coverage of sprint spark all over my area! ?
I guess different areas has different plans. I was told plan like mine is not available anymore and in case I switch that's lost forever.
Read the terms; IIRC, the newer unlimited data plans have a data roaming limit set rather low; beyond that limit incurs charges. The grandfathered unlimited data plans don't have a roaming data limit that incurs data fees but Sprint terminates those who abuse data roaming. Lose that plan and it is not possible to go back. The phones are still subsidized as well. That's another trend going away. I'm keeping my Everything data 1500 minute plan with employee discount for those reasons. Not sure about discounts on the other plans. Maybe that's three terms to consider if switching plans or providers.
deeken said:
Hey all,
I've waited out two generations of this phone in order to get this one but I'm currently on AT&T and my contract is up. The AT&T version has a locked bootloader and from the looks of it, it won't be getting root any time soon. I'm contemplating on whether I should go with the Sprint or Tmobile. How do you guys like this phone on the sprint network?
Are there any issues with wifi tethering with this phone (without paying extra for it)? Has anyone come from AT&T and regretted it?
I'm in the NYC area and I've had Sprint on my company's BB which had pretty good service. How is the service where you are.
This is kinda big decision for me because I've been with AT&T for over 17 years now and I'm going to lose my unlimited data if/when I switch. I know Sprint still offers it but AT&T does not and I want to make sure I make the right decision.
Thank you all in advance
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Which areas of nyc are you in?
I have both T-mobile and Sprint accounts. I'm happy sprint . Spark is great and I usually use about 50 gigs of a data on each phone. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think you should get Sprint since NY has great Sprint service.
ajr0312 said:
I have both T-mobile and Sprint accounts. I'm happy sprint . Spark is great and I usually use about 50 gigs of a data on each phone. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think you should get Sprint since NY has great Sprint service.
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Sprint in nyc was great with my nexus 5...but the note 4 seems to have connecting issues for me
Thanks for your input guys. I'm all over NYC (pretty much all 5 boroughs) and Long Island so I need good service wherever I am at. But I'm in downtown Manhattan most of the time.
@kwazytazz what kind of connection issues are you having? Poor 4g? GPS? Call quality? Please elaborate.
Also, could any of those issue be a problem with your phone?
deeken said:
Thanks for your input guys. I'm all over NYC (pretty much all 5 boroughs) and Long Island so I need good service wherever I am at. But I'm in downtown Manhattan most of the time.
@kwazytazz what kind of connection issues are you having? Poor 4g? GPS? Call quality? Please elaborate.
Also, could any of those issue be a problem with your phone?
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Mainly poor lte issues in the financial district ..few blocks from seaport..lte would not stay connected and will drop to 3g then 3g will drop and reconnect numerous times..whereas my nexus 5 stays connected 100 percent of the time..maybe I have a defective phone but that's my experience
kwazytazz said:
Mainly poor lte issues in the financial district ..few blocks from seaport..lte would not stay connected and will drop to 3g then 3g will drop and reconnect numerous times..whereas my nexus 5 stays connected 100 percent of the time..maybe I have a defective phone but that's my experience
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I've got the same issue.
Sprint is decent for lte in nyc. You may have some issues getting lte in SI or Queens but the other three boroughs should be fine.
I think that's fixable with an update tho. Not saying, it's not annoying atm, but Sprint should fix this soon.
How about Long Island? Anyone experiencing connectivity issues in Nassau or Suffolk?
Another thing I wanted to ask about was the GPS. How accurate is it with google maps and its turn by turn? I've read that several people are experiencing issue with it. Not just the Sprint variant.