Does anyone know how much of a difference there is between the international ROMS and the T-Mobile ROM ?
I don't think they will work the 3g and 4g bands are not the same
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
If its the same as the S4 LTE then all you have to do is use a TMO kernel.
I'm pretty sure the GN3 Int LTE & TMO will be the same since they are Snapdragons compared to the Int non LTE with Enyxo (sp).
Bands have nothing to do with ROMs since you can add your carriers APN yourself.
With that said, we will find out soon enough. Just have to be patient since they device just got released.
This is probably why I'm waiting a few wks to months to buy the GN3.
-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk
RMXO said:
If its the same as the S4 LTE then all you have to do is use a TMO kernel.
I'm pretty sure the GN3 Int LTE & TMO will be the same since they are Snapdragons compared to the Int non LTE with Enyxo (sp).
Bands have nothing to do with ROMs since you can add your carriers APN yourself.
With that said, we will find out soon enough. Just have to be patient since they device just got released.
This is probably why I'm waiting a few wks to months to buy the GN3.
-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly bands has nothing to do with ROMS. Just keep the tmobile modem and the kernel. But anyway KNOX could be a [email protected](*#CH to avoid. We will see.
daraj said:
Exactly bands has nothing to do with ROMS. Just keep the tmobile modem and the kernel. But anyway KNOX could be a [email protected](*#CH to avoid. We will see.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use Titanium BU to remove Knox or remove the apk from the ROM before installation. But like u & I've said. We'll see.
-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk
RMXO said:
Use Titanium BU to remove Knox or remove the apk from the ROM before installation. But like u & I've said. We'll see.
-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I meant by Knox is the Knox Kernel security at boot (0x0). with this, We are not sure how its going to play out.
daraj said:
What I meant by Knox is the Knox Kernel security at boot (0x0). with this, We are not sure how its going to play out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, and yes that is very true. I'm gonna guess at least a month or more before we start seeing custom kernels. All depends on devs getting one anytime soon.
I'm so impatient, I knew reading these forums would be bad. Yes, it's always better to blame someone else instead of yourself, LOL. I just came home with the white GN3.
RMXO said:
Ah, and yes that is very true. I'm gonna guess at least a month or more before we start seeing custom kernels. All depends on devs getting one anytime soon.
I'm so impatient, I knew reading these forums would be bad. Yes, it's always better to blame someone else instead of yourself, LOL. I just came home with the white GN3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congrats on your phone. Im really considering getting the TMO version and use on ATT. I cant imagine being stuck with 1 rom with no root. thats horrid
Related
Hello, I was curious if you can flash ROMs from the S3's from other carriers besides T-Mobile and also flash ROMs from the international forums. I remeber back when i had my Vibrant all you would have to do is flash the correct boot.img and also replace the keylayout file. Is it as simple as flashing a tmobile boot.img since the keys are all the same? Thank you in advance.
don't do it.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
There is a possibility of sharing ROMs with the AT&T model. If you go check out their forum, there are a couple of ROMs which people have successfully flashed on the T-Mobile model. Search the threads and flash at your own risk!
vinvam said:
There is a possibility of sharing ROMs with the AT&T model. If you go check out their forum, there are a couple of ROMs which people have successfully flashed on the T-Mobile model. Search the threads and flash at your own risk!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is totally true. On the Hercules you could flash the skyrocket roms. But the T-Mobile ones are usually better. The att ones are really only better when att leaks first.
Don't do it was an oversimplification, however.
Just heard about too many people flashing the international roms.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
Android_Monsters said:
That is totally true. On the Hercules you could flash the skyrocket roms. But the T-Mobile ones are usually better. The att ones are really only better when att leaks first.
Don't do it was an oversimplification, however.
Just heard about too many people flashing the international roms.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So there isnt a way to flash the international ROMs? Without bricking
blackoakx22 said:
So there isnt a way to flash the international ROMs? Without bricking
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, the hardware internally is too different. I doubt there'll be an easy method to port the ROMs either.
The AT&T ROMs on the other hand should be fairly easy to port and I think there is a group working towards this goal.
You will lose your insurance.
Just to let you know, you will lose your phone's insurance, this is not the same as the 90 day warranty. I remember I had flashed my vibrant to a rom using the international model, about six months later I got a letter in the mail saying assurion would no longer insure my phone, because it wasn't the right model. I might have been able to add the text file that adds the correct model number, but I don't know if that really works or how to I it.
xdarooted said:
Just to let you know, you will lose your phone's insurance, this is not the same as the 90 day warranty. I remember I had flashed my vibrant to a rom using the international model, about six months later I got a letter in the mail saying assurion would no longer insure my phone, because it wasn't the right model. I might have been able to add the text file that adds the correct model number, but I don't know if that really works or how to I it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In this case they could have seen the flashing being done and the changing of the build.prop file. That would make the most sense to me.
You obviously haven't been reading...heck go for it.
You CAN NOT do other roms, as was stated, the hardware is different.
Not that hard to search. Do it and report back with results.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
blackoakx22 said:
Hello, I was curious if you can flash ROMs from the S3's from other carriers besides T-Mobile and also flash ROMs from the international forums. I remeber back when i had my Vibrant all you would have to do is flash the correct boot.img and also replace the keylayout file. Is it as simple as flashing a tmobile boot.img since the keys are all the same? Thank you in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
neverrrr do that lol. Unless you want a bricked phone. Only flash roms from your carrier.
dannyyyyy said:
neverrrr do that lol. Unless you want a bricked phone. Only flash roms from your carrier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T ROMs and even Sprint ROMs work just fine if you configure APN settings.
Roms from the international S3 WILL brick your phone.
Sent from my SGH-T999
what he said above me is correct, ive flashed both carriers to mine and it went flawlessly
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
don't do it.
or try att rom
why? why would anyone need to flash a ROM from a completely different carrier?
Cobra281 said:
why? why would anyone need to flash a ROM from a completely different carrier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because some of the other ROMs have features ours might not? Who cares as long as they don't flash an i9300 ROM they'll be fine.
Sent from my SGH-T999
joshnichols189 said:
Because some of the other ROMs have features ours might not? Who cares as long as they don't flash an i9300 ROM they'll be fine.
Sent from my SGH-T999
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
true, but it is risky. also, do sprint and verizon ROMs work, verifiably?
Cobra281 said:
true, but it is risky. also, do sprint and verizon ROMs work, verifiably?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently Sprint's do, but Verizon's a no-go right now because they have some additional SIM verification.
Cobra281 said:
true, but it is risky. also, do sprint and verizon ROMs work, verifiably?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Risky is an i9300 rom because the SoC is 100% different. We all have the same SoC so it's not as big of a deal.
joshnichols189 said:
AT&T ROMs and even Sprint ROMs work just fine if you configure APN settings.
Roms from the international S3 WILL brick your phone.
Sent from my SGH-T999
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey,
How do you configure the apn settings? I'm on an att rom and love it, on wifi it is fine but when it says 4g away from wifi no luck with service. I can get edge, but that is it.
thanks,
BillY
Ok I figured it out but I cant get the att apn to stick does the phone have to be unlocked?
Anyone care to explain why Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T can all share the same kernel but sprint gets treated like the red headed step child?
Flash a custom kernel problem solved.
Sent from Pluto.
mauricehall said:
Anyone care to explain why Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T can all share the same kernel but sprint gets treated like the red headed step child?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess would be that ATT, T-Mobile, and VZW all use 1700/2100 MHz bands for LTE while Sprint uses different bands. That's just a guess, so I could be wrong.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
mulhiny said:
My guess would be that ATT, T-Mobile, and VZW all use 1700/2100 MHz bands for LTE while Sprint uses different bands. That's just a guess, so I could be wrong.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But Tmo doesn't even have LTE
mauricehall said:
But Tmo doesn't even have LTE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They did buy a large chunk of spectrum from VZW in June to begin their rollout though..like I said, just a guess.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
mulhiny said:
They did buy a large chunk of spectrum from VZW in June to begin their rollout though..like I said, just a guess.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
they are also buying metropcs,how ironic since they are not able to merge with at&t,funny how things work out
mauricehall said:
Anyone care to explain why Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T can all share the same kernel but sprint gets treated like the red headed step child?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kernels and ROMs I've tried from other variants have worked. The phones on each carrier are identical (excluding the radio hardware). If you do decide to try one read carefully. But I've done it several times with no harm done
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
nbeebe24 said:
Kernels and ROMs I've tried from other variants have worked. The phones on each carrier are identical (excluding the radio hardware). If you do decide to try one read carefully. But I've done it several times with no harm done
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya i can confirm flashing a tmo or vzw kernel works most of the time. the landscape orientation will be upside down but they work. Hell im running vzw aokp right now and made 0 changes to it before flash
They all are gsm capable. Sprint isn't.
freeza said:
They all are gsm capable. Sprint isn't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With that being said does that mean that flashing over a Verizon Kernel would be a bad idea? or would there be a chance for profit? or even a rom for that matter?
billard412 said:
Ya i can confirm flashing a tmo or vzw kernel works most of the time. the landscape orientation will be upside down but they work. Hell im running vzw aokp right now and made 0 changes to it before flash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how is that working for you?
mauricehall said:
how is that working for you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To my surprise, other than the reversed screen orientation in landscape. Excellent. Didnt even alter the build.prop. You'd swear it was made for our device.
Flashed a verizon tw based rom or two as well. Those tend to require a change two the build.prop but still am able to use their kernel just fine. The tw ones never run this good tho
billard412 said:
To my surprise, other than the reversed screen orientation in landscape. Excellent. Didnt even alter the build.prop. You'd swear it was made for our device.
Flashed a verizon tw based rom or two as well. Those tend to require a change two the build.prop but still am able to use their kernel just fine. The tw ones never run this good tho
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried the Verizon TW with a Sprint TW kernel?
mauricehall said:
Have you tried the Verizon TW with a Sprint TW kernel?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya. its usually the first thing I try when i flash something for another carrier and its acting weird or doesnt want to boot.usually works for me, granted i only change to a sprint kernel as a last resort
Good stuff, Thanks for your input
Good day to all,
I am just checking to see the full flexibility of the S4 in terms of development.
I'm looking over the specs on all of the different variations that are out for the S4.. a little more then called for.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
From my point of view.. the GT-I9505, SGH-I337, SGH-M919 are basicly the same.. only huge difference is the i9505 LTE bands compared to the M919 and I337.
I know if i flash the wrong kernel or mod, it can, and most likely would brick the phone..
i'm not smoking crack here.. but is it possible.. is there a way to use a I337 mod/kernel and flash over .. i guess the radio for the m919?
Can you? Maybe. Should you? No. Would it involve flashing the modem in any case? No.
People, come on now.it's never smart to run things from other phones.unless you want a fancy paper weight
Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk 2
TheAtheistOtaku said:
People, come on now.it's never smart to run things from other phones.unless you want a fancy paper weight
Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I run at&t rom's and kernels on my S3 all the time. In fact I run nothing but AT&T versions of slim and kt kernel.
I plan on doing the same thing with my S4 once they get their b/l unlocked.
Free Quasi!
FlyGurl said:
I run at&t rom's and kernels on my S3 all the time. In fact I run nothing but AT&T versions of slim and kt kernel.
I plan on doing the same thing with my S4 once they get their b/l unlocked.
Free Quasi!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly!
But, i came from the i9300... and it was a no no to run a i9305 on the phone with the hardware issues... but.. are the AT&T and T-Mobile phones the same?? hardware anyways??
T-Mobile and AT&T variants were next to identical on the GS3, i havent looked at specs for the S4, but i would definately NOT flash international S4 stuff to your US S4, no no no no no dont even think about it!
Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and help issues go in Q&A
Thread moved
Thank you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
are the GS4 variant i337(AT&T) and M919(T-Mobile) identical? I need to get the t- mobile files on the att GS4, because i use it on tmobile.
vedantgp said:
are the GS4 variant i337(AT&T) and M919(T-Mobile) identical? I need to get the t- mobile files on the att GS4, because i use it on tmobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am also interested in this.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda app-developers app
You probably cab but it will probably have bugs. For instance. On my s3 I can flash kernels from any other carriers and if I do sprint I get rotarion issues.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
You can flash the ROMs for other models no problem as long as you flash a kernel made specifically for your device. I haven't experimented with kernels for other devices, but I can say that I have made the mistake of flashing both AT&T ROMs and i9505 ROMs and forgot to flash a TMO kernel and all I got was a nice failure to boot after the initial Galaxy S4 splash screen. Can't speak for the other carriers, but I just make it a point to flash KT kernel for the TMO device with each ROM I flash given the problems I've encountered with AT&T and i9505's models.
A brick waiting to happen. You should never flash a kernel that is NOT made for your device. Oh well going to be a good thread to watch a few days. Makes for some good reading, and good lessons for others.
Carry on!
Your welcome
As @lordcheeto03 stated I flashed i9505 rom on ATT and forgot to flash kernel and booted, it displayed a notice on boot that Non-AT&T software is detected, and didn't boot...
I also tested to flash i9505 Modem on i337 and it/ i.e. odin displayed notice, of a failure due to knox [sic] rejecting it...
I booted into recovery manually flashed i337 kernel and it successfully booted without any brick.
@TheAxman
Does it not piss anyone else off that the Samsung galaxy s3 for AT&T still hasn't gotten 4.1.2 or even any news on it. The galaxy s2 even got the update for AT&T, so how is it not yet out for the s3.
It's very annoying indeed. However, there's plenty of custom touchwiz roms with 4.1.2 features and they're debloated.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Domoo said:
It's very annoying indeed. However, there's plenty of custom touchwiz roms with 4.1.2 features and they're debloated.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not being from the US I can comment on ATT, they are probably making sure the N S A can still gather information on the general public......
rkant18 said:
Does it not p*** anyone else off that the Samsung galaxy s3 for AT&T still hasn't gotten 4.1.2 or even any news on it. The galaxy s2 even got the update for AT&T, so how is it not yet out for the s3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it does.
Did you call, email, or contact them in any way to let them know of your displeasure?
They don't read these forums. If you're unhappy, you need to let THEM know. I did - and if enough paying customers threatened to go elsewhere, they'd pay more attention.
danvee said:
Yes it does.
Did you call, email, or contact them in any way to let them know of your displeasure?
They don't read these forums. If you're unhappy, you need to let THEM know. I did - and if enough paying customers threatened to go elsewhere, they'd pay more attention.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea I spoke to them, but they kept giving me the BS that they were waiting for bug fixes for the sgs4 to be fixed. Theyre 2 different devices, so why does that affect the s3's update?
One thing at a time,I guess. And if it bothers you that much, maybe look at the nexus line of phones
the only way i can sleep at night is hoping their just skipping str8 to 4.2.2
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/20...ly-bean-leaked-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-iii/
waiting for this...
rkant18 said:
Yea I spoke to them, but they kept giving me the BS that they were waiting for bug fixes for the sgs4 to be fixed. Theyre 2 different devices, so why does that affect the s3's update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because they are more worried about getting new contracts...more profit!!!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
rkant18 said:
Yea I spoke to them, but they kept giving me the BS that they were waiting for bug fixes for the sgs4 to be fixed. Theyre 2 different devices, so why does that affect the s3's update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because they probably only have one software team, and only work on one Samsung device (or just one device - period) at a time.
How to get the Samsung 4.1.2 update:
1. Root your phone with chainfire's CF autoroot method.
2. Install chainfire's app Mobile Odin from the play store.
3. Download the T Mobile T999 update from samsung-updates.com.
4. Flash everything from the update EXCEPT the modem.
Enjoy the 4.1.2 goodness...
Russ77 said:
How to get the Samsung 4.1.2 update:
1. Root your phone with chainfire's CF autoroot method.
2. Install chainfire's app Mobile Odin from the play store.
3. Download the T Mobile T999 update from samsung-updates.com.
4. Flash everything from the update EXCEPT the modem.
Enjoy the 4.1.2 goodness...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You forgot 5. Install deTmobilized ROM made for ATT. The T-Mobile converted to a ATT ROM with MANY Extras...
Sent from My Spiderman Themed I747
RockRatt said:
You forgot 5. Install deTmobilized ROM made for ATT. The T-Mobile converted to a ATT ROM with MANY Extras...
Sent from My Spiderman Themed I747
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I've seen that one. My response was aimed toward the most "stock" experience. Not everyone wants deodexed/busybox/toggle mod/etc...
Personally I'm using the tmo rom, with the T-Mobile bloat uninstalled, Google keyboard, and aosp mail.
how to flash the system without the modem ? because the download rom is one part
I read some where yesterday the reason for the delay of the galaxy s3 and note update is because a new touchwiz is being developed and is supposed to bring us up to 4.2.2.. Time will tell there is alot of B.S. on the internet as we all know.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4775...ild-further-delays-samsung-s.htm#.Ubie_PnrzDQ
rpomponio said:
I read some where yesterday the reason for the delay of the galaxy s3 and note update is because a new touchwiz is being developed and is supposed to bring us up to 4.2.2.. Time will tell there is alot of B.S. on the internet as we all know.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4775...ild-further-delays-samsung-s.htm#.Ubie_PnrzDQ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung released 4.1.2 to the carriers awhile back and all the carriers but AT&T have completed testing and pushed it out. The delay is entirely on AT&T's side at this point.
superm1 said:
Samsung released 4.1.2 to the carriers awhile back and all the carriers but AT&T have completed testing and pushed it out. The delay is entirely on AT&T's side at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Provide a little proof like I did? Like I said I don't believe most of the stuff on the Internet. Even with proof...
Sent from my SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
rpomponio said:
Provide a little proof like I did? Like I said I don't believe most of the stuff on the Internet. Even with proof...
Sent from my SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some guy that filed with BBB got that spewed back at him:
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Di...-S3-Premium/m-p/3500511/highlight/true#M44386
zaky1 said:
how to flash the system without the modem ? because the download rom is one part
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mobile Odin gives you the option to clear the modem from the install. desktop Odin does not.
Let's just go straight to 4.2.2...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
So as I surf the other galaxy note 2 forums im starting to realize there is hardly NO dev support for our devices.. I mean other galaxy note 2 forums have tons of new development and custom ROMs and what not, but out TMobile forum is pretty much crickets.. lol.. were are all the devs at...?
Sent from my SGH-T889 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I'm guessing it's because the T-Mobile variant isn't as popular, to put it in laymen terms, it's a niche device, even though Samsung has sold millions of T889s. You can always head over to the AT&T or the international forum, flash the rom and flash the t-mobile radio. I haven't personally tried it but it technically should work. Anyone who has the skynote rom on their t889 mind sharing how to do that?
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. I mean you could use some att roms but you have to be careful and flash kernels and even still you'll have data drops and who wants that. I'm just a little pissed at Sammy for the lack of support for our note 2,with so many phones being released you would think they would have worked on 4.3 when it was released from Google and gave it to carriers and told them to not release it until after the note 3 was released, but that's just me I guess. I believe I'll go back to nexus after this phone hopefully by then they will have 64gb and 5000mah battery's inside. :-/ oh and it's not that simple to just flash our modem, there's efs and other technical stuff.
If you flash intl roms make sure they are for the N7105 and not the N7100.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
ungraph said:
I'm guessing it's because the T-Mobile variant isn't as popular, to put it in laymen terms, it's a niche device, even though Samsung has sold millions of T889s. You can always head over to the AT&T or the international forum, flash the rom and flash the t-mobile radio. I haven't personally tried it but it technically should work. Anyone who has the skynote rom on their t889 mind sharing how to do that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As long as the frequencies from the two carriers are the same, it'll work. (I don't recommend it though, bricked my phone, but thank nandroid backup)
Smack that thanks button if I helped.
N7105 Note 2 LTE International powered by Illusion ROM 2.6
Plasma Kernel 2.02
Sent from a small country named Singapore
I've had sky note on my t889. You flash the rom then reboot. Reboot to recovery and flash devil kernel. Then boot back up and enter tmo apn. Works good if your in an lte area but data drops on 4g.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I'm not a dev, but I've been building from source for the tmobile gs2 and now have the note2. I should be able to build pretty much any stable rom for this device that is built for any other note2. I'm running slimkat right now.