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Just a heads up, there is a new ota going out right now.
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old news!
1.theres already a thread about it
2.we already know about the minor update
3. stop posting stuff thats already been posted!
marcviado said:
old news!
1.theres already a thread about it
2.we already know about the minor update
3. stop posting stuff thats already been posted!
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Get a life. If you already knew, then don't open the thread. No need for your two cents.
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kingsway8605 said:
Get a life
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umm, quit crapping up the community with ur poor threads
andybones said:
umm, quit crapping up the community with ur poor threads
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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Now now guys cant we all just get along? So much hostility.
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Now now guys cant we all just get along? So much hostility.
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I agree. Just trying to help those who hadn't realized it but apparently there are a few people on here with the maturity of a 12 year old.
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Anyone know if it's safe to patch over the air?
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Anyone know if it's safe to path over the air?
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If you mean will you lose root, the answer is almost always yes.
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kingsway8605 said:
Get a life. If you already knew, then don't open the thread. No need for your two cents.
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haha obviously you have no life but to post crappy threads on here thats alreadys been posted! im surprised your stupidity didnt lead you to posting
this in the dev section!
if your gonna post something at least search if anything relating to what you want to post has already been posted idiot!
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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dont be posting useless threads in the first place haha
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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Honestly no one wants to hear it from some jackass that TALKED SOOOOOOO MUCH **** ABOUT SOFTWARE ROOT ANYWAY. Follow the rules and search before posting useless information that has been already posted! No one cares that you just found this out and you really don't need to open a thread every time you find something new out. This isn't Twitter. This is why the Dinc2 community is CRAP. No one even wants to Dev for us because some of us are ungrateful jerks. People don't forget, and if I recall correctly let me show you how grateful you are.
kingsway8605 "I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening." - Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15419763&postcount=13
go ahead and feel dumb, you should.
kingsway8605 "Sure they don't "advertise" it but they are having their cronies post all over here about some imaginary root. I refer you to my previous post about ignoring it. I would rather not continue to argue with you about something I am obviously right about and risk a mod banning me. When, or actually if, Alphrev releases root, I will admit you were right. But I can promise you that won't happen."
do us all a favor and keep your thoughts to yourself. obviously you type before you think, and I don't care if you said your sorry, you still wrongfully accused the very people who's software YOU are using. they shouldn't have even let you use it personally.
BYE-BYE NOW!
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Honestly no one wants to hear it from some jackass that TALKED SOOOOOOO MUCH **** ABOUT SOFTWARE ROOT ANYWAY. Follow the rules and search before posting useless information that has been already posted! No one cares that you just found this out and you really don't need to open a thread every time you find something new out. This isn't Twitter. This is why the Dinc2 community is CRAP. No one even wants to Dev for us because some of us are ungrateful jerks. People don't forget, and if I recall correctly let me show you how grateful you are.
kingsway8605 "I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening." - Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15419763&postcount=13
go ahead and feel dumb, you should.
kingsway8605 "Sure they don't "advertise" it but they are having their cronies post all over here about some imaginary root. I refer you to my previous post about ignoring it. I would rather not continue to argue with you about something I am obviously right about and risk a mod banning me. When, or actually if, Alphrev releases root, I will admit you were right. But I can promise you that won't happen."
do us all a favor and keep your thoughts to yourself. obviously you type before you think, and I don't care if you said your sorry, you still wrongfully accused the very people who's software YOU are using. they shouldn't have even let you use it personally.
BYE-BYE NOW!
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Seriously, get a life. How long did it take to type that. I didn't even read what you wrote. Stop spamming the forum. Grow up.
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Seriously, get a life. How long did it take to type that. I didn't even read what you wrote. Stop spamming the forum. Grow up.
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It took me a whole 3 minutes tops, because I know how to use the SEARCH button. and I can't SPAM a USELESS thread, this will be deleted once you waste a Mods time and they get around to it.
EDIT: oh, and if I can type faster than you can read, sorry.
its not worth argueing with him andybones,hes obviously an idiot who simply cant do a search before posting a crappy useless thread
I have to check the website. Curious if there is a way to block users who spam the forum. I actually hope a mod deletes it, nobody wants to hear your useless arguing. As for me creating useless threads, I think I have created 3 threads total so far, and one of them helped quite a few people with their alarm clock issues.
For now I am just going to manually ignore you guys. Type away at me, not even going to bother reading them. I will be the mature one.
Edit: wow, just checked my other thread and you argued with someone else in that thread. Do you actually do anything on this site besides argue with others because reading through your comment history it sure seems like all you do is argue, you are ignored for sure.
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I have to check the website. Curious if there is a way to block users who spam the forum. I actually hope a mod deletes it, nobody wants to hear your useless arguing. As for me creating useless threads, I think I have created 3 threads total so far, and one of them helped quite a few people with their alarm clock issues.
For now I am just going to manually ignore you guys. Type away at me, not even going to bother reading them. I will be the mature one.
Edit: wow, just checked my other thread and you argued with someone else in that thread. Do you actually do anything on this site besides argue with others because reading through your comment history it sure seems like all you do is argue, you are ignored for sure.
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You can ignore me all you want. Truth of the matter is, I do help people. You annoy people. Clearly. I don't even need to justify myself. For how many days did you down talk alpharevX, and now use their product? I highly doubt you donated. and I'm not arguing, I'm responding, and my first post was blowing off a little steam because it's people like you who CRAP these threads up.. it's not wonder all the REAL devs left XDA. useless, ungrateful people like yourself. If you have a problem with my post, report it
Is this OTA dump kosher.
I may not be getting OTA in my location. So I went fishing and came across this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...8-605-4-same-as-the-official-gingerbread-ota/
They claim it is the same as the OTA but since it can be RUU'ed will work on all phones, incl. those with modification to the ROM.
Has anybody tried this one? Also, since I have never gone the RUU route some additional instructions will be most welcome.
sgiitk said:
Is this OTA dump kosher.
I may not be getting OTA in my location. So I went fishing and came across this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...8-605-4-same-as-the-official-gingerbread-ota/
They claim it is the same as the OTA but since it can be RUU'ed will work on all phones, incl. those with modification to the ROM.
Has anybody tried this one? Also, since I have never gone the RUU route some additional instructions will be most welcome.
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If you are not s off, just flash it. If it has been tampered with than the update should fail. It isn't todays ota though, it is the one from a few weeks ago.
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Thanks @kingsway8605. This is the only one I could find. About two weeks old. Any other URL's?
Presumably the flashing involved copying the file (with changed name) to SD card root. Remove the USB cable and then do <volume down> + <power>. I hope the follow up is pretty simple and straight forward. I do not have much Android experience.
Remember how in High School or College you would have to DO YOUR RESEARCH to find your information before turning it in to your teacher or professor?...So far in the past 12 months this XDA School Research Skill and Overall GPA has dropped. In this SGSII class of the school, we are bringing our GPA up, and now we are on a level thats "considered passing". I was a new student in this class about 2 weeks ago and everyone made me feel like I was at home, but the rest of the school im not to sure about. XDA school was the one everyone went to about everything Android. Now since the teachers and students are slowly turning in degrees, we are loosing a lot of our students and teachers to other schools. We cannot let this happen because this is where it all started. We have to start gaining the quality of our school back, our prestige is dropping.
So lets get started...
Instead of teachers having to spend extra time assisting students, students should learn to RESEARCH and Experiment on their own time. Teachers only volunteer at this school. No paychecks, pensions, workman's compensation, just breaks and retiremen. Teachers should help students more and explain things more in a detailed fashion. XDA School is changing so we have to change with it. Dont fight it, go with the flow and make it work for everyone. There has to be a line to draw in the middle, where students can help one another, troubleshoot, and have fun with the teachers. Im a teacher myself and comming up with lesson plans that will hold everyone in the class over until I write a new one is not easy. Sleep is lost, donations are good, but overall not good enough to deal with the stress in our personal lives because we all go through it. Competition is always present but thats no excuse for teachers to critique other teachers. We may not be together in reality but we are a community, so lets act like it.
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good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them...
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to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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I just thought it more people were aware of the issues we would be able to fix them together. Ill just have the principle close the class down if students and or teachers start to bring it down.
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AllGamer said:
to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
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Thats such a shame, i have been around since android rooting started and being here on XDA was considered a privilege
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I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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xsteven77x said:
I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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The worse part about it is, the quality of the issues people report in threads. Most of the time they are "non issue issues" Meaning its not a bug in the ROM just a problem that they are having.
They will post their problem and hope for someone to get a fix for them and get upset when people flame them. The people who can fix the problem have no right to flame either. Fighting fire with fire has become way to common here. The people dont say things like "I looked online in such and such place but i dont understand what its telling me, or this method is outdated any updates on it", nothing like that, that shows they were putting fourth an effort in the first place. It was such a joy for me to research and learn because it led me to create ROMs and themes. I felt a lot better when I figured out how to fix my own problems and it made me a better Rooted android user.
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
Agreed..
DARKSIDE...join us we have nice treats T989
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I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
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Yea brother, i mean ill say yea again to that one. If people actually paid for me to deliver week in and week out id quit my day job seriously to work right here from home.
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
I was here from the start with the G1, granted out was a few months after the release, buy nonetheless I did my own research asked questions when I was TRULY stuck and solved my own problems by searching the threads/forums. People come in here (XDA) and "flame" one another for asking a question and folks that come in here creating threads and posts REPEATEDLY about the same topic. It honestly needs to be stopped and monitored more closely because all it does is clutter threads and makes it difficult for those trying to do it on their own.
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I haven't been here as long as most but since I joined when I purchased my evo it went from thank you to gimme gimme. Not to mention the flame fests,including entire threads filled with pics about the ensuing flame fest. Infractions should start being issued a lot more frequently and even to the point of issuing them to the members who post nothing questions over and over again and get in a tiff when they don't get an answer for "why is my phone crashing after I didn't wipe from cm7 to sense"anyways just wish it would go back to respect and appreciation.
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as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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I see what your saying but that defeats the purpose, if i create a market error thread, then theyll ask for just about everything, the flood gates would open right up. If people would stop being lazy then everything would be ok.
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jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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Lol
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~synergy v0.10
jessejames111981 said:
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lmfao 10char
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???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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Its an inside joke (a good one too) based on the amount of bounty threads he does and how quick he is to start them.
Reading this thread bummed me out. I'm somewhat new to all of this, and in the last couple of months have learned an INSANE amount about the android OS and how to make it "mine". I would have never been able to do so without the much appreciated help of all the knowledgeable people here on XDA. Yes, I agree, there are a crazy amount of duplicate posts, and pricks, and mindless idiots who for some reason have no issue posting a bash on a hard working dev for no apparent reason (f#& k those morons). Here is my question. What do you think of someone like me, who asks questions when he is stuck, and probably will continue to do so whenever he is hopelessly stuck, but always shows appreciation for valuable help received? There seem to be plenty of people here who enjoy helping noobs like me. I've helped a few, and it felt pretty good.
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So I've decided to start this thread because I've noticed something that I want to try and get changed for the better of this community and to help a person that I think deserves it.
What I'm trying to acomplish here is to start a petition that could potentially get him his status back. He deserves it in my opinion. And for the most part, I think you guys might too. So just place your vote in the pole and try and concentrate on all the work he produces for use and his attitude NOW. Please don't hold on to those grudges if you have any. Thanks.
I just noticed that one of are very Recognized Developers here on XDA (Task650) has recently lost his "Recognized Developer" status. So I decided to take it upon myself to find out why. Task650 explained to me that he recently flew off the handle and went on a "noob hunting spree" as he stated. He openly admitted to me that he was wrong for doing so and mentioned that he felt bad about it. Then went on to tell me that he has just forgotten about it and moved on with doing his best to better the SGS3 Forums and XDA as a whole. It was pretty cool to hear.
I know that he has been dealing with some pretty hardcore emotional issues with his 6 year old little girl having cancer. I can understand that sometimes we go through things in life that are that horrible, and we as human beings can act out in certain places that we normally would not. It's just something that happens and we move on from it. I can see that that's exactly what he has done. His attitude around these forums is back on track with what I've known from him and I only see him contributing and helping everyone out here on XDA as much as he possibly can. I don't think I've ever seen anyone here spend so much time updating his roms, submitting patches, and responding to others in such a helpful manner like I've seen him do. Now that's the exact type of person I believe deserves a "Recognized Developer" status. Hopefully the majority of you will agree whether or not you hold a grudge against him. I know he doesn't hold a grudge against any of you.
I DO NOT WANT ANY TROLLING OR FLAMING IN THIS THREAD! IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY. DON'T POST HERE! YOU WILL BE REPORTED IMMEDIATELY IF YOU DO!!!
Freaking out every once in a while doesn't make him less a developer or take away his skill and generosity of time and effort.
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I agree with everything you just said.
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Everyone goes through tough times and it shows that by owning up to what happened and why and accepting resposibility, then moving on to make things better overall shows he deserves the status back.
I fuxx wit the boiii!!!!! He got dat "celebrity status" roun here...
Cuttn up the bud on my SAMSUNG GALAXY S3.... #KeepIt1Hunid
I agree. He's a fantastic developer, puts out a very high quality ROM; and frankly, if he comes off a bit harsh... its probably something you should have googled. I've learned a ton, just from lurking his thread and asking the occasional question. Development software is essentially beta/testing software, so if you're going to run it... learn.
I flashed half a dozen ROMs to this device before I tried theirs, and now my only flash is for the latest update, which is routinely put out more frequently than any other aosp ROM I've seen.
Task is involved, interested, and more proactive than any paid developer I've ever known, on any platform... and he does gorgeous work for free. Its impossible not to recognize him as a developer, no matter what his title in the forum is.
Edit: didn't know about his kid either.... now I like the guy even more.
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+1. I just started flashing a month ago and Task 14 was my first rom. Great dev, great support, just a reasonable straight up dude. Thanks Task...you deserve it, for simply releasing quality work! Past is the past, simple as that
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He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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I've seen plenty of other developers on XDA and other forums get fed up when people don't search or decide to get an attitude because something isn't working for them or they don't get the response they wanted. Some have even left XDA because of stuff like this. Totally unnecessary. Imagine what this world would be like without Task. Very, very dark. He's only human, most of us wouldn't have half the restraint he does.
Hopefully he'd just start his own site and carry on. We need him more than he needs us.... he's just sharing something great he did for his own satisfaction.
The guy that made my HTC merge bearable till my uscc contract was up did just that.
+1 Task makes the best ROM I've ever used on 5 devices. Amazing guy.
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Task is human.... OK, maybe superhuman, but we all get tired of out of control noobs wallowing in their laziness and/or ineptitude on these forums, asking the same old questions and not reading the OP. I myself am a noob around here, but developers, mods, and fellow xda-ers who chastise those who fail to follow forum rules have helped me realize it's better to do my own homework. I've seen Task's etiquette improve since the incident on the SGS3 AOKP thread, so it's safe to say he is truly sorry and deserves to have his "recognized developer"status reinstated.
And BTW, unicorns dream of Task's ROMs!
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lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to? Good ROMs, quick updates.
I'm 100% with Task.
He could overreact a little bit once but there are some users that push it hard. Push it really hard!!!
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He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to?
Good ROMs, quick updates.
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yeah i think i remember something like that. it was kinda funny considering everyone ended up voted that the OP of that thread get banned. lmao.
is there any particular reason you decided to vote NO?
Part of the rules and he broke them, I think he will get his status back in due time. Good Luck
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Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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ok so i work hard too and we might get 1000 noobs in our thread too, you don't see me or anyone of us freaking out. im sorry but yeah things happen in life and mistakes are made, it doesn't mean you dictate what xda will do or will not do. im not against humanity or wheel of life, but if you are short tempered then let the mods do the job, you don't freak out bluntly on a thread like that. Im with what xda decides best. If you really care for him then help him with his work make his life easier, learn things that are done, fix things that can be fixed by yourself and if its a last resort you can raise a question and then if you get freaked out upon then im sorry that dev is either short tempered or life is not being right with him/her, but then again if life is not being right then don't create a UFC in xda cause it'll just splatter blood everywhere and it just doesn't make sense then to do anything. Ive made mistakes too here and yeah i'll admit i was infracted 5 times and yet i learned from those infractions and i learned to control my temper and learn from mistakes and move on. Xda did what they did for a reason and let them decide what they did is right for community and for everyone's well being, if he doesn't have a title of "recognized developer it won't stop him from doing his work. Also for cluttering threads to create a petition doesn't make anyone better, if you wanna voice your opinion then message the mods directly and if mods don't respond then go step above mods to senior mods and so forth. Also if you're planning to bash me because what i said isn't something what you wanna hear or look at then please don't bother because it won't change me, im gonna do my work, and i'll be here at xda everyday and i'll still be living. just my 2 cents.
Why's everyone rude here? Developers of ROMs don't spend hours of hard work just to be dissed. Yo. They do it because its something they mildly enjoy/want to do and wanna contribute. Being rude makes them want to not do this for us. You all can feel free to learn C, Java, C++ and the Linux command line and make us a flawless build. Although most of us aren't really capable of this. Myself included. So next time you wanna complain because something doesn't work, remember, they have lives too. Bug reports are fine, just be respectful! You all watched the noob video, right?
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There's a noob video? Missed that one, gonna go watch it lol :thumbup:
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What I really love is when someone fubars their device because they don't even belong trying to modify them and then they get upset noone can help because their lack of reading directions/warnings has left them with a brick.
This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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Yes sadly everyone does want something different from any ROM, one will never satisfy all.
Not to get personal but what do you do for work that would subject you to that kind of...feedback? And I just noticed haole lol. Not sure if its what I'm thinking, but I was born in Hawaii, I'm hapa.
Anyways as I said I take it all quite personally, especially now as it was basically a favor for someone who asked me to come back.
That said, on topic again, some people just don't understand the amount of work involved and how calling it trash (this is quite edited ofc) is almost the same a calling me the same thing. They also don't care about the time it takes and just expect it to be given to them, or demand features or additions without considering it may be past the dev's abilities or desire to even do it. It comes down to they think they're entitled to it, when and how they want it, but seen willing to learn to do it themselves.
Also the whole internet mentality of its a screen name, not a person. Insulting pio_masaki isn't the same as standing in front of me and saying the same thing. I disagree with this mentality and prefer to consider it a person, not a screen name. Strangely I'm perfectly fine ignoring some a hole insulting me in person, yet take it personally about a ROM lol.
And pay per build would be quite difficult to implement, especially because it would need tailored per user, the time wouldn't be worth the cost to me, or the cost wouldn't be worth it for the user, I mean figure $10 an hour to build a ROM to be worth my time. User wants a cm10, tablet ui, memory bar added. Takes me 6 hours to implement the changes, sync, build. Would you pay $60 for a ROM for an a100? Not likely. I don't mean you personally, but the average user. They'll just use B1 instead lol. Maybe if I came and installed it for you or something lol
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
I'm not talking about an expensive fee, ever $5 per year would be enough to keep the trolls away, Many years ago people said they'd never pay for torrent sites no look at the state of torrenting. Newsgroups are flourishing while free torrent sites are few and far between and their content is lackluster at best.
I would also be up for allowing devs to have ban powers in their own build threads. These guys do a service 99.9999% of us can't do, they do it for free and they get abuse for it. Keep your device stock if you can't act like an adult for one, and don't modify your device if you are unable to handle the real possibility of it going horribly wrong.
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
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heh, people,EVERYWHERE are having issues...its like common descency and respect are things of the past..im a college adjunct proffesor and see some reall asshatery ...end of my rant...sorta..for those who do the hard work,much respect,..take what people say with a grain of salt..
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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That's awesome! Must've been a great feeling....
I've never meant anyone with anything I've ever made
That is cool as hell though!
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I figured, I was just saying if you did
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I figured, I was just saying if you did
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Wonder if I can setup some kind get paid per download link or something. Probably wouldn't pay enough to be worth the hassle to people anyways.
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With the update being out for like a week now I'm wondering why there hasn't been any new ROMs based on the 6.01 marshmallow. I would even be happy for just a stock rom with root, no fancy mods added. Is there an issue with rooting the MM update? I desperately need wifi calling !
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Come on man. Don't be that guy.
The update released on Thursday or Friday at noon last week. It hasn't even been a business week nevermind a full week at this point. The raw files were made available pretty much right away so it's fair game for anyone who absolutely needs the rom and is willing to put some time in.
It's summer. People do this for free and have lives.
If you absolutely need to flash something the Mm ports and Cm have been available for weeks and months. It's also been reported that you can rollback from the New update so you could always go stock if it's imperative and flash back when appropriate.
Otherwise, hsbadr has uploaded the files and seems to have slots for future work in his formatting. So hold tight. Good things come to those who wait or who take the initiative.
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With the update being out for like a week now I'm wondering why there hasn't been any new ROMs based on the 6.01 marshmallow. I would even be happy for just a stock rom with root, no fancy mods added. Is there an issue with rooting the MM update? I desperately need wifi calling !
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It's a matter of waiting for the TAR to be released. That way, we have a clean /system to work with, OTAs are always wonky.
ryanbg said:
It's a matter of waiting for the TAR to be released. That way, we have a clean /system to work with, OTAs are always wonky.
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Does tars normally take long to be released after an ota?
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revdirty said:
Does tars normally take long to be released after an ota?
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About a week or so.
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About a week or so.
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so this is basically why most of the devs have not updated any of thier Roms like paulpizz or jasmine
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revdirty said:
so this is basically why most of the devs have not updated any of thier Roms like paulpizz or jasmine
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Well that OR as stated above by @bobloblaw1 the fact that these great dev's DO have lives to live. They have job's and family's as well. I had a teacher back in elementary school who used to tell me all the time that "Patience Is A Virtue". I would wager that there will be a MM ROM out within two weeks.
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Well that OR as stated above by @bobloblaw1 the fact that these great dev's DO have lives to live. They have job's and family's as well. I had a teacher back in elementary school who used to tell me all the time that "Patience Is A Virtue". I would wager that there will be a MM ROM out within two weeks.
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I'm not sure why you and he think I'm being impatient.lol I'm fully aware of the nature of software development.. plus this is mostly done on ppls free time and volunteer basis .. I was mearly trying to understand the process of an ota getting released to s custom ROM being created.. . on a very high level .
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I'm not sure why you and he think I'm being impatient.lol I'm fully aware of the nature of software development.. plus this is mostly done on ppls free time and volunteer basis .. I was mearly trying to understand the process of an ota getting released to s custom ROM being created.. . on a very high level .
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I wasn't meaning any disrespect to you in any way. I am sure I am not alone on this, but in the OP it does sound impatient. In essence to the main question as to why there aren't any MM ROM's out yet, the only real, yet short answer is "time".
Again, I am not meaning any disrespect to you. It's just when someone asks a question, I tend to be honest and strait forward.
Color me cynical but...
I've read two or three threads regarding the Marshmallow OTA and I find it amusing as to how many people are losing their minds over it. It's not happening fast enough for the unrooted crowd, most likely because Verizon doesn't want their servers swamped. The people who are rooted are willing to risk bricking their devices or not being able to regain root because... I don't know why. Is there something so earth shattering in the OTA that isn't already available in a custom ROM?
And now there's a new group who wonders why developers haven't produced a custom ROM based on an OTA that's not even a week old. I could never be a developer for this sort of group. The level of ungrateful is simply breathtaking. I've been on XDA for about six years as a consumer. I can well remember when asking for ETAs was considered rude.
From what I've been able to observe, most of the good developers are driven first and foremost by challenges. Yeah, there could be money involved... enough to maybe buy a couple of six packs of beer. They're also driven by their reputations. Most wouldn't dream of foisting a half-assed ROM on people. It's far more productive for them to issue a product that is fairly polished and then be able to spend their time developing new and improved features rather than having to fix broke ****. And while some developers do live in the basement and live only to make ROMs, most have wives, kids, jobs and interests outside of ROM development.
Here's how I see it: you can be patient and wait for the developers to do their thing and be rewarded with a near OEM experience, or you can forge off into the unknown. The entertaining part of watching the trailblazers is that most of them shouldn't be flashing custom ROMs with complete instructions because they're not willing to expend the effort to learn just what it is that they're doing. Then, when they've ****ed their phones up, they don't ask for help, they demand it.
One more point: The Note 4 is over 18 months old. That is ancient in the consumer electronics world, even while the hardware is still highly competitive against the newest phones. Many developers have moved on to greener fields. There's a smaller base of community for ideas to be bounced around. Things won't move quite as fast.
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Color me cynical but...
I've read two or three threads regarding the Marshmallow OTA and I find it amusing as to how many people are losing their minds over it. It's not happening fast enough for the unrooted crowd, most likely because Verizon doesn't want their servers swamped. The people who are rooted are willing to risk bricking their devices or not being able to regain root because... I don't know why. Is there something so earth shattering in the OTA that isn't already available in a custom ROM?
And now there's a new group who wonders why developers haven't produced a custom ROM based on an OTA that's not even a week old. I could never be a developer for this sort of group. The level of ungrateful is simply breathtaking. I've been on XDA for about six years as a consumer. I can well remember when asking for ETAs was considered rude.
From what I've been able to observe, most of the good developers are driven first and foremost by challenges. Yeah, there could be money involved... enough to maybe buy a couple of six packs of beer. They're also driven by their reputations. Most wouldn't dream of foisting a half-assed ROM on people. It's far more productive for them to issue a product that is fairly polished and then be able to spend their time developing new and improved features rather than having to fix broke ****. And while some developers do live in the basement and live only to make ROMs, most have wives, kids, jobs and interests outside of ROM development.
Here's how I see it: you can be patient and wait for the developers to do their thing and be rewarded with a near OEM experience, or you can forge off into the unknown. The entertaining part of watching the trailblazers is that most of them shouldn't be flashing custom ROMs with complete instructions because they're not willing to expend the effort to learn just what it is that they're doing. Then, when they've ****ed their phones up, they don't ask for help, they demand it.
One more point: The Note 4 is over 18 months old. That is ancient in the consumer electronics world, even while the hardware is still highly competitive against the newest phones. Many developers have moved on to greener fields. There's a smaller base of community for ideas to be bounced around. Things won't move quite as fast.
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I do agree with all of what you are saying. That being said.. I of course am on root and the reason at least for me wanting a custom ROM is wifi calling .. I need this feature as I have crap signal in my home and office. I'm just not willing to let go of root for it . I am happy to wait for some experienced dev to make a rom with 6.01 that is pre-rooted so I can have my cake and eat it too.. lol
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@revdirty. I just want to thank you for asking the question, and @ryanbg for answering the question... All the others with the why you ask and o Lord not another one.. If one of you knew the answer why didn't you just answer it... I for one now learned something.. Don't take away from us who ask as you guys say dumb questions...
It's people like you guys that make us make mistakes because were afraid to ask...
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@revdirty. I just want to thank you for asking the question, and @ryanbg for answering the question... All the others with the why you ask and o Lord not another one.. If one of you knew the answer why didn't you just answer it... I for one now learned something.. Don't take away from us who ask as you guys say dumb questions...
It's people like you guys that make us make mistakes because were afraid to ask...
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1. Anyone who replied DID "answer" his question.
2. Some people are too thin skinned and can't seem to handle someone being honest and strait forward.
3. It's really very silly to blame others for "your own" mistakes. It's not our fault if someone can't or doesn't follow directions. It's people like us that actually help this community. A users "Thanks Meter" doesn't get higher on it's own.
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I do agree with all of what you are saying. That being said.. I of course am on root and the reason at least for me wanting a custom ROM is wifi calling .. I need this feature as I have crap signal in my home and office. I'm just not willing to let go of root for it . I am happy to wait for some experienced dev to make a rom with 6.01 that is pre-rooted so I can have my cake and eat it too.. lol
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I am guessing by your reply that you do have wifi at you home?
If so have you thought about or maybe try and see if Google Hangouts may be an option for you for the time being?