such as 2.x(not applicable here of course),4.x.x, 4.x.x and so forth... food for thought
it'll get way too messy and crowded for no reason.
most of the time, thread titles are listed with their android version and pretty much all roms stay up to date with latest version anyway ......
jt.one said:
it'll get way too messy and crowded for no reason.
most of the time, thread titles are listed with their android version and pretty much all roms stay up to date with latest version anyway ......
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I agree. There are only ~10ish pages of threads. It shouldn't be that hard to find a thread you are looking for.
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Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.
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Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.
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Mate... i think that cant be applied because there may be 10's of roms then we will need 10's of forums. Its ok with topics i think... they just need good cleaning from useless posts.
And what is the problem with having 10s of forums? If the forum framework is flexible this shouldn't be much burden for the administrators.
yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p
Garmin said:
yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p
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I would also recommend Tags. Aren't they supported?
Take this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751
How can somebody find in it if there is the answer that he is looking form. This thread has more than 2500 replies! This is not a thread! It's a history book.
i hear what you're sayin but...
that's not even a ROM thread! And he (Ikarus) has taken the trouble to write up FAQs, manuals, etc, so except for troubleshooting IMO you hardly need to look through the whole thread,
This is not a thread! It's a history book.
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but that's a nice line...made me smile at least...
regarding a forum for each ROM, it would be a nice idea, but is there really space, or a real need for this? I mean, I hate looking back at a latest ROM thread and seeing 20 pages to trawl through, but what can you do... I guess I agree with WizeMan. If there is anything that can be done, perhaps harsher moderation (e.g. of newbie's questions) in the ROM threads would help.
...or...if people really did want new forums for ROMs, one for each major cooker? rather than each individual ROM...still don't think that it's worth it/do-able though
I believe seperating ROMS and forum will add more chaos. For example, there is like 100's of ROMS released for each device like hermes, wizard etc. Some of the ROM released might not be good, and hence it might be discontinued. Also with the way people are porting ROM a new OS version is released almost daily, and the chefs, start their job again with the new OS version....so having to seperate ROM forum will add more confusion...(this is my opinion)
Also, use google to search for what you need, I agree you cannot go through the 2500 replies, but some of them do have valuable information.
That's a good idea...
Sorry, but that is probably the craziest thing I have heard. Do you even know how many ROMS are out there? This forum is huge as it is. If they started making new forums for every ROM, then you would have nothing less than 200 forums minimum.
The key is to include a "Thank You" feature for every thread. The biggest problem we have here is noobs and even a lot os senior members posting THANK YOU and I'LL TEST IT OUT messages in the threads. If you actually look at the amount of useful messages in the threads, they are quite minimal as opposed to all this unnecessary chatter.
There are a lot of forums that include this "THANK YOU" feature that I mentioned. If you want to thank the author of the thread, all you do is click on a THANK YOU button and your name gets added to a THANK YOU section in the same thread. That way everything is kept clean and messages are posted only when you have something to contribute, discuss or have a problem.
Check out the thread below... you'll have a much better idea of what i'm talking about. Also, maybe we should make this more visible. If all of us start putting this in our Signatures, then members will take notice and if there is enough of noise, then the admins will take notice and we can move towards a cleaner and more functional XDA-dev.
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In my oppinion this is a difficult idea to be applied. The most simple way we can wish the moderator give a list of rom and then stick them, so anybody know where is the newer rom, stable rom, or in progress. But actually there is a rule from the rom maker, they use some order of versions which they build, so anybody know when the rom is composed Thank them for the great works.
As per subject really...
Currently we only have the 'General' section but now the device is available perhaps we can enable other sub sections to avoid everything being posted here?
sh500 said:
As per subject really...
Currently we only have the 'General' section but now the device is available perhaps we can enable other sub sections to avoid everything being posted here?
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the mods will work on it dont worry, ... as soon as the legend reached the masses they created the ROM development subsection for it, expecting the same for the DESIRE
They normally have them up before the official release date. Yep, of course they will appear at some point.
Many people have this device now, I can see the General section getting flooded with alsorts!
About two pages of threads being updated quite frequently already, I think new sub-forums are in order.
not trying to be mean or anything and probly will get bashed, but I had a thought about how to organize the forums so the questons asked would get an answer faster and with more accurate information.
what if we were to have a question and answer part in each of the roms instead of asking in the genereal q and a
you know sort of like each dev would be able to see all the problems that their rom is currently having.
and it would also help the people running those roms see all the current questions.
we should also have a section for the people who are on stock roms unrooted
I personally think it would help in diagnosing issues if they arrise.
I agree on a rom q and a but inside the development thread. Have rom thread ie bonsai and then a bonsai q and a thread with the most repeated q and a's on the op. This is more work for the devs and entirely up to them. It will help out in organization instead of cluttering a development thread with the same question. have the main thread for dl link, changelog, install instructions, possibly bug reports (some have a dedicated page for this) and that's it.
Edit: and most importantly feedback.
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To do that, it would need to be reorganized such that roms would each get their own subforum. Then, they could have a "get the new version here" thread, a "general info" thread, and then all the random individual threads. If you have seen how mod forums are organized at civfanatics, you know what I'm talking about.
Lately, I've been thinking we need a "Guides and FAQs" section. Make everyone post guides being worked on in a "works in progress" subforum and then a mod can move completed guides to the main forum. We might be able to get a nice little knowledge base here if a few people wanted to chip in and write out a lot of what we have learned.
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and then a mod can move completed guides to the main forum.
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srsly? we cant even get the one overworked mod to move much around as it is.
Which is why I haven't previously suggested the idea.
But, seriously, we need a couple more good mods who want to help build a community here. I know how tough it is. I've been around a lot of forums, both good and bad. It can be hard to find people who are both willing to do the job and mature enough to do it well.
I've noticed that whenever someone asks, "What ROM should I use?" the responses are either brusque (e.g. "Just install whatever and find what you like,") or unverifiable ("I've had okay luck with XYZ").
When I choose a ROM, the first thing I care about are the bugs. And yet, there is no single thread in the development forum that has a list of all the current ROMs, and a list of bugs. Some developers are very good with updating the first page of their thread, clearly listing the bugs, and yet for other ROMs, you have to dig until you get to post 1579 on page 157 to find that such-and-such functionality doesn't work.
Why doesn't anybody do this? Why isn't there a sticky at the top of the development forum that clearly lists the major ROMs in development, and keeps track of the main bugs? This makes selecting a ROM much, much easier.
Why don't you do it?
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I've noticed that whenever someone asks, "What ROM should I use?" the responses are either brusque (e.g. "Just install whatever and find what you like,") or unverifiable ("I've had okay luck with XYZ").
When I choose a ROM, the first thing I care about are the bugs. And yet, there is no single thread in the development forum that has a list of all the current ROMs, and a list of bugs. Some developers are very good with updating the first page of their thread, clearly listing the bugs, and yet for other ROMs, you have to dig until you get to post 1579 on page 157 to find that such-and-such functionality doesn't work.
Why doesn't anybody do this? Why isn't there a sticky at the top of the development forum that clearly lists the major ROMs in development, and keeps track of the main bugs? This makes selecting a ROM much, much easier.
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go ahead, ill definitely link it to those "which roms" threads.
um... you mean something like these?
Stickied in the GSM sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896
Stickied in CDMA sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399802
it's a really large task to do what you're suggesting... tracking all the features and bugs of every single ROM in development. you'll see that the person who started the CDMA sticky has abandoned the thread and it's now outdated and rather useless. that's pretty much what will happen at some point with any such thread if you want the detail you suggest.
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I've noticed that whenever someone asks, "What ROM should I use?" the responses are either brusque (e.g. "Just install whatever and find what you like,") or unverifiable ("I've had okay luck with XYZ").
When I choose a ROM, the first thing I care about are the bugs. And yet, there is no single thread in the development forum that has a list of all the current ROMs, and a list of bugs. Some developers are very good with updating the first page of their thread, clearly listing the bugs, and yet for other ROMs, you have to dig until you get to post 1579 on page 157 to find that such-and-such functionality doesn't work.
Why doesn't anybody do this? Why isn't there a sticky at the top of the development forum that clearly lists the major ROMs in development, and keeps track of the main bugs? This makes selecting a ROM much, much easier.
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ecs1984 said:
it's a really large task to do what you're suggesting... tracking all the features and bugs of every single ROM in development. you'll see that the person who started the CDMA sticky has abandoned the thread and it's now outdated and rather useless. that's pretty much what will happen at some point with any such thread if you want the detail you suggest.
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I see. Is there a way to make a sort of Wiki-type format where the developer will take the first step, and whenever people find a bug, they can report it?
All I'm saying is that in many ROMs, bugs are buried within the (often) dozens or even hundreds of pages of the thread.
I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody; I'm just asking whether there is a more efficient way to organize the information.
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right way to ask this, but when should we expect this forum to have grouped threads (i.e development and roms in one section, Q&A in another section, etc)? We are starting to build up a pretty good number of custom roms/kernels, and a few of them are getting lost in the pages as other questions and general posts come up.
Thanks Excited to see this community grow so fast so soon.
Hi, for now you can tap the color coded section at the top. IE. Development
I'm not sure of any other changes on the horizon...
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Hey guys, not sure if this is the right way to ask this, but when should we expect this forum to have grouped threads (i.e development and roms in one section, Q&A in another section, etc)? We are starting to build up a pretty good number of custom roms/kernels, and a few of them are getting lost in the pages as other questions and general posts come up.
Thanks Excited to see this community grow so fast so soon.
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I agree with us 100%. We need this so bad. Important questions are getting bumped out of view
@Burt Squirtz Are they important questions or dumb questions or posts about stuff that's been asked before but made a whole new post about? Like how many posts do we need stating that 11.2.7.7 is out? Or questions that simply require a quick Google search that will possibly yield a faster answer rather than waiting for someone to on here to post a response?
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Hi, for now you can tap the color coded section at the top. IE. Development
I'm not sure of any other changes on the horizon...
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There's no way to filter by category in the mobile app (that I can find).
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There's no way to filter by category in the mobile app (that I can find).
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Your probably correct, I don't use the mobile app, but check the mobile app thread for verification...