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[Q] How are you getting by on space with the 16 GB model?

I generally buy tablets with at least 32 gb. I bought the iPad Air with 64 because I learned my lesson with the iPad 2 and filling it up.
When I went to Best Buy to pick up a Note 10.1 2014, they only had the 16 gb model. I could have waited, or picked it up somewhere else, but I wanted to take advantage of Best Buy's financing (18 months no interest) and I hate waiting for things.
After installing all of my apps and downloading the data for them, I have about 6 gb left. The problem is, I read a lot of comics. A typical comic in the Comixology app will run you about 100 mb or so. I delete many of them when I have read them, but I fall behind on my reading fairly regularly and accumulate quite a few. I also have a lot of articles in Pocket that I'm behind on and that takes about 600 mb.
Apps to SD is a myth on Samsung devices. I have confirmed that when you move an app to SD, it just moves it to a folder called "emulated" and really doesn't free up any space. Add to that that Pocket's "store cache on SD" feature isn't working and Comixology won't store comics on the external SD and I can basically only use the SD card slot for movies and music. So, I'm wodering: Will 16 (9) GB be enough? Or do I need to take this thing back and get the 32 gb model?
My real question is: How are those of you with the 16 gb model getting by? Is your internal space filled up? Are you wishing you had the bigger model?

Ive had other tabs that were 16g and as long as I was mindful of where I stored my books and photos I never ran inyo problems. I also make sure my email only syncs 5 days. With my work and personal accounts I get way to many. For reading I use Moonreader because unlike aldiko it doesn't force me to put my books on the device. Hope this helped
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rockjock2020 said:
Ive had other tabs that were 16g and as long as I was mindful of where I stored my books and photos I never ran inyo problems. I also make sure my email only syncs 5 days. With my work and personal accounts I get way to many. For reading I use Moonreader because unlike aldiko it doesn't force me to put my books on the device. Hope this helped
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I have had 16 GB tablets as well, but they generally have much more of that 16 gb available. All of the touchwiz and SPen features leave us with just over 8 GB on this thing. There's also the issue that, if we fill it up completely, it will hurt performance. So we really only have about 6-7 total out of the box.
I'm taking it back and getting the 32GB model. I love the tablet, but I need internal space.

greyhulk said:
I generally buy tablets with at least 32 gb. I bought the iPad Air with 64 because I learned my lesson with the iPad 2 and filling it up.
When I went to Best Buy to pick up a Note 10.1 2014, they only had the 16 gb model. I could have waited, or picked it up somewhere else, but I wanted to take advantage of Best Buy's financing (18 months no interest) and I hate waiting for things.
After installing all of my apps and downloading the data for them, I have about 6 gb left. The problem is, I read a lot of comics. A typical comic in the Comixology app will run you about 100 mb or so. I delete many of them when I have read them, but I fall behind on my reading fairly regularly and accumulate quite a few. I also have a lot of articles in Pocket that I'm behind on and that takes about 600 mb.
Apps to SD is a myth on Samsung devices. I have confirmed that when you move an app to SD, it just moves it to a folder called "emulated" and really doesn't free up any space. Add to that that Pocket's "store cache on SD" feature isn't working and Comixology won't store comics on the external SD and I can basically only use the SD card slot for movies and music. So, I'm wodering: Will 16 (9) GB be enough? Or do I need to take this thing back and get the 32 gb model?
My real question is: How are those of you with the 16 gb model getting by? Is your internal space filled up? Are you wishing you had the bigger model?
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You can use Folder Mount to move programs to the SD Card too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
It works fine on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition.

Same here thinking of selling my 16gb and get a 32gb. Games alone fills up storage fast. Having an sd car doesnt help either
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Just got a 16GB at Best Buy for the same reason as OP (wanted to use financing, didn't want to wait) - haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm getting more and more nervous that I'm going to run into trouble with the storage space - I expected to be able to move more onto an external SD card, but it sounds like that's not so workable after all?
If I root, I have more options, but I'm reluctant to do that if I don't have to... Anyone else have a similar conundrum?

jimbutsu said:
Just got a 16GB at Best Buy for the same reason as OP (wanted to use financing, didn't want to wait) - haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm getting more and more nervous that I'm going to run into trouble with the storage space - I expected to be able to move more onto an external SD card, but it sounds like that's not so workable after all?
If I root, I have more options, but I'm reluctant to do that if I don't have to... Anyone else have a similar conundrum?
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Not sure if this is an option for you, but I bought the 32 gb model from Newegg with my preferred account. 12 months no payment or interest. And no sales tax unless you live in CA. Taking the 16 back to Best Buy. Better too much space than not enough.
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greyhulk said:
I have had 16 GB tablets as well, but they generally have much more of that 16 gb available. All of the touchwiz and SPen features leave us with just over 8 GB on this thing. There's also the issue that, if we fill it up completely, it will hurt performance. So we really only have about 6-7 total out of the box.
I'm taking it back and getting the 32GB model. I love the tablet, but I need internal space.
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Really? I have over 11 free ... sm-p600. What version you running?
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dr.m0x said:
Really? I have over 11 free ... sm-p600. What version you running?
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So you have the 16 GB and over 11 GB free? That I can live with, and it's about what I would have expected from the OS and bloatware... I can't decide if I want to try fot the 32 or just deal with the 15 (I'm not going to game with it, and movies/media I'd run off the SD card no matter what)...
I'm in a state of acute analysis paralysis! Someone decide for me...

jimbutsu said:
So you have the 16 GB and over 11 GB free? That I can live with, and it's about what I would have expected from the OS and bloatware... I can't decide if I want to try fot the 32 or just deal with the 15 (I'm not going to game with it, and movies/media I'd run off the SD card no matter what)...
I'm in a state of acute analysis paralysis! Someone decide for me...
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you'e kind of answered it yourself tbh...Gaming will take up the majority of the space of a tablet. Applications are normally around 20mb to a max of 100mb and some rare ones larger. Games on the other hand well the high graphic games anyways are over a 1GB so space would be an issue if you were to play loads of games.
honestly if you have no intentions of gaming 16GB would be plenty for you although if you could afford the 32GB then go for it since its always nice to have loads of space.
Ofcourse only you can really decide but I'm holiding out for a 32GB because I would like to have atleast a handful of 1GB games to keep me busy when I'm at the airport waiting for my flight or on the flight itself.

[Q] Storage capacity?

Ok, so i bought a New Nexus 7 2013 with 16gb of storage. Does the storage capacity affect the whole performance of the tablet in anyway? It sucks that it doesnt have a micro sd card slot. I have a 16gb sd card on my phone i was thinking to use it on the Nexus but sadly it doesnt work that way. Im worried coz i know it isnt really 16gb , mostly when they say 16 / 32 / 8 etc , its not the absolute amount so if 16 then i would say the available is only 14gb plus the bloatware (if it has) then then ill say the only user available is 12 or 10? And does the 16gb differ from the 32gb one besides the user available storage? I hope not. Thank you in advance to the one that will answer each of my questions informatively. Cheers.
P.S We are talking about Asus Google Nexus 7 2013 (2nd Gen) 16gb WiFi Only.

j-skeelz said:
Ok, so i bought a New Nexus 7 2013 with 16gb of storage. Does the storage capacity affect the whole performance of the tablet in anyway? It sucks that it doesnt have a micro sd card slot. I have a 16gb sd card on my phone i was thinking to use it on the Nexus but sadly it doesnt work that way. Im worried coz i know it isnt really 16gb , mostly when they say 16 / 32 / 8 etc , its not the absolute amount so if 16 then i would say the available is only 14gb plus the bloatware (if it has) then then ill say the only user available is 12 or 10? And does the 16gb differ from the 32gb one besides the user available storage? I hope not. Thank you in advance to the one that will answer each of my questions informatively. Cheers.
P.S We are talking about Asus Google Nexus 7 2013 (2nd Gen) 16gb WiFi Only.
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Its an average 11.5 gb free
The 16gb and 32gb have the exact same hardware

When your storage gets full your I/O speeds do slow down i try to have at least 2gb free at anyone time.
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THEBANDIT420 said:
When your storage gets full your I/O speeds do slow down i try to have at least 2gb free at anyone time.
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Have you experienced that type of situation?

Other than storage, 16 and 32 GB model are identical. The operating system takes around 5gb I think. As far as bloat,... Its a nexus, it has no bloat. Only Google and aosp apps. No SD slot because Google is trying to push us to cloud storage. You can always use a USB otg and thumb drive. I also saw a micro SD card reader that plugs right in to the micro USB port.

[Q] Do you guys think 16GB is enough ?

For someone that has no Plan for storing Musics and Movies, Is the 16GB enough for Apps & Games? This would be my first Tablet & I'm not sure if I should fort out $100 more for the 32GB version. My local shop sells the 16GB version for $150.
Thanks.

1. Buy a refurbished model for less than $200.
2. I always prefer more storage to less. Lots of people can get by with just 16GB, I can't. If you find that 16GB isn't enough, there's always the Meenova or Leef microUSB card readers or the dual USB sd cards.

I have a 16gb and I am not pressed for space. I would prefer a 32gb, but if you aren't storing large files you'll be fine.
Also, I would recommend checking out your local Staples. They have the 16gb for $98 and 32gb for $128 on clearance. The price doesn't show up until check out which is why not many people know of it.
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Crimson Lotus said:
For someone that has no Plan for storing Musics and Movies, Is the 16GB enough for Apps & Games? This would be my first Tablet & I'm not sure if I should fort out $100 more for the 32GB version. ($150 for 16GB)
Thanks.
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No music and movies, a 16gb should be fine, whereas you should take into account the space requirements of certain games as they might need a few GB in additional storage for files downloaded (e.g. Racing, shooters etc.). I got personally a 32GB Nexus 7 2013 and store music on it, no movies, a few games (6-7, 1-3 high storage require) and my space is more than enough.

No it isn't. Pony up for the 32gb.

I would say 16GB is "probably" fine for someone who isn't going to store music and movies (movies can take up spectacular amounts of space); I have had my N7 2013 since launch, only use it for a few apps and games and am yet to have any problems with storage space. That said, I am far from a heavy user and nobody can tell what the future may hold in needs and desires from the tablet....
As a rule, I would suggest going for the 32GB model if you can (notwithstanding the reported "its only got 16GB after the update" issue that some have reported) but unless it really is an "unmissable" bargain then there is nothing essentially wrong with the 16GB model.
My answer is probably clear as mud and won't make anything clearer, but meh, we all have our opinion as to what we would do - ultimately it is your decision

I have a 16GB phone (Moto X 2013) and a 32GB Nexus 7 2013. I've never had an issue with space on any of my devices. I didn't get the Nexus for the space, it was just the featured deal on Woot at the time, and happened to be 32GB.
I don't store movies or music on it, I use Pandora and Netflix. I do take photos with my phone, but don't save most of them on the device. They get uploaded to Copy and I usually clear them out just to minimize the clutter. If you record video or take lots of photos on a vacation or something, the space could be eaten up pretty quickly.
But for apps, you're probably fine. The biggest app I have is The Simpsons: Tapped Out, which is just over 1GB with all the updates that it downloads in app. Apps that are content rich can be pretty large. My GF just installed the Assassin's Creed Unity companion app, and it's like 450MB or something. I don't think this is typical for size, most apps I see are <50MB, even for games.
Just my opinion, but I think 16GB is probably fine.

thesoldier said:
I have a 16gb and I am not pressed for space. I would prefer a 32gb, but if you aren't storing large files you'll be fine.
Also, I would recommend checking out your local Staples. They have the 16gb for $98 and 32gb for $128 on clearance. The price doesn't show up until check out which is why not many people know of it.
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No way, where did you get this info from. I try looking online, adding to cart & Pick-up at store but got no luck. The They are selling the old model of 32GB for around $150 thou. Do I call the local store or something
Thanks everyone for the insight.

Crimson Lotus said:
No way, where did you get this info from. I try looking online, adding to cart & Pick-up at store but got no luck. The They are selling the old model of 32GB for around $150 thou. Do I call the local store or something
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Not Available online, only clearance in store.
http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/7557490
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Crimson Lotus said:
For someone that has no Plan for storing Musics and Movies, Is the 16GB enough for Apps & Games? This would be my first Tablet & I'm not sure if I should fort out $100 more for the 32GB version. My local shop sells the 16GB version for $150.
Thanks.
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I would go with the 32GB if you plan on gaming. 2-3GB per game adds up fast.

thesoldier said:
Not Available online, only clearance in store.
http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/7557490
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bummer, called all stores within 20miles, no Luck. oh well :crying:

If u intend to install many large games, have a lot of pictures and or videos , get the 32gb. If u don't, then get the 16gb for games and add more temporary space with a USB OTG flash drive or memory card reader when necessary. I regret not buying the 32gb version.

Went from a 32gb grouper to a 16gb flo with little adjustment needed overall, except better management for comics and videos if traveling. Even then, nothing loading a USB drive up with and using OTG couldn't fix

Question, with those USB OTG, Do I have to Copy the file into the internal memory in order to read the file? for instance I have a Movie stored on the USB OTG, Instead of coping it to the Internal drive, Can I just play it off of the Drive on the Tablet? like how a Computer is... You can just play files off of the USB drive.

Of course you can direct play, otherwise what's the point (playing an mkv off thumb drive right now)
OTG cable is pretty great for controllers too

I personally think it is enough, if only because my collection of media is higher than a 32gb or 64gb model would hold anyways. I would rather hook up OTG storage for long trips without wifi. With wifi, I'll just stream everything anyways so it's not a big deal. Plus OTG storage options are generally cheaper than the upgraded storage option on the device itself would be and I can use it on more devices. Just my 2 cents.

I have the 16 and it's plenty. But then I don't store media on it either.

I would also support buying 32GB. I had a 2013 16GB which I finally sold. I travel a fair bit on long flights (>6 hours) and like to have my ebooks and music on the device. The lollipop update reduced the available memory more than kitkat. I had to try my luck in multiple ebay auctions for the 2013 32GB as there seems to a real demand out there. I ended up paying about $20-30 more than what the going price back in December.

I always opt for more storage when possible. Better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it in my opinion.

I have a 16 GB and personally I wish I would have gone with the 32gb model 16gb is just not enough especially if your rooted with a custom recovery and like to keep several backups
Go with the 32gb model definitely worth the few extra bucks

Pixel Out of Box Storage

Has it been confirmed anywhere how much out of the box storage we will have with either the 32gb or 128gb Pixels? My 32 gb 6p had 25gb out of box. Im trying to find out of it will be less than 25gb since the Pixel will have the dual partitions for faster/background updates. I did manage to find a screenshot somebody took from the Android Police hands on demo and it shows 29gb available out of box. I will attach the screenshot. Im not sure if that will be same for the retail phones or if these are only demo phones so they might not take up as much space.

So there's 22gb's available, since 8gb of the 30 is already used up.

I got the 'quite dark, XL, 32GB'... I am wondering now if I should have upgraded to the 128 GB. Pictures/Video in the cloud will be great, but I am wondering how much space the VR apps will consume.

I have both 32 and 128 silver on preorder . Trying to figure out if 32 will be enough before cancelling one of them
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32GB is pretty lean for a device without an SD card. I don't need the room for pics or music anymore but although I swear this phone won't need rooted, if I DO go there, I'll need room for ROMs & backups.

cjhoney said:
I got the 'quite dark, XL, 32GB'... I am wondering now if I should have upgraded to the 128 GB. Pictures/Video in the cloud will be great, but I am wondering how much space the VR apps will consume.
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On my s7 they're around 500mb to 1gb, definitely not small. You'll run out of space quickly.

32gb on devices is not enough nowadays..todays standard is 64gb and up

I'm very worried with my 32gb not being enough. I needed the 5.5 inch screen but I don't know if the storage is more of a factor
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I think it's more than enough if you take advantage of the 'Free Unlimited Google Photo's Backup' feature

From what I've heard/seen, it doesn't seem to be much different than the 6P, so hopefully it's the same. I personally don't mind as I still have 14GB free on my 6P. I don't use VR apps or games, so most of the space is for apps, pictures/videos, music.
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Would like to know 32gb free space?

pro4ever said:
Would like to know 32gb free space?
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Total storage on UK model is 29.7Gb minus 5.39Gb for the system so you will have 24.31Gb to play with. I've attached a Screenshot of mine. Xl model BTW if that makes any difference.

32 gb

I have note 5 64 GB. I have few games yet I don't really play them so I can do without them. I have a lot of music on it cuz you know that's why I bought 64gb phone. I don't shoot a lot of 4k vdos. I do take a lot of pics. Back them up on Google photos important ones on PC.
And now I have 30 GB free. Do you think without few games and lesser music I can live with 32gb phone? Looking to get pixel xl 32gb...
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Having the same dialema coming from LG G4 with 32gb on board and 32gb as card.

that is totally for you to answer.

I bought the 32gb XL. I came from a 64gb N6 and used around 26.5gb on that phone. But alot of it was pictures for me and since I use Google Photos for my backup, they didn't transfer to my new phone.
So my advice for you is to look at how much space your pictures take up and subtract that from how much you're using now.
BTW, the 32gb has 29.70gb available storage.