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Just got my seidio extended battery what's the best way to charge it?

I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I charged mine up til it was 100%, then monitored the battery widget. It kept going at waveform like this for another hour and a half - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ - however as time went on, the peaks would be at lower and lower amplitudes. Eventually, the charging current decreased significantly, and there was an occasional spike every 5-10 min. At that point, I turned it off and let it charge for another hr or so. Rebooted (while still plugged in) into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted to the desktop. Once the phone was fully booted, I unplugged.
I can get a good 2 days with light usage, or a solid 1 day with heavy. There after, I charge it til green, then give it another 1.5-2 hrs more - You can tell by the battery widget when it actually stops charging.
Note, i'm not using an SBC based kernel.

What battery widget are you using?
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mikel719 said:
I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's all bull man you dont really need an external charger. When I was in the process of getting my 3500 mah I was also preocuppied about the external charger, however I began to use and you really dont need it.
Just understand that when the 100% sign comes up and the green light turns on it's not really charged all the way, the phone can only recognize upto 1500 mah..if I remember correctly. You have to leave the phone plugged in for another hour or so for it to actually get it's full charge.
Even then, it will seem like it is not working because the battery will go from 100 to 90 in around 5 minutes ITS CRAZY!! But dont worry thats a fault on HTC's part. After that 90% mark the phone will have really good battery life. I usually get around 15 hours of heavy usage, extremely heavy trust me! If you just use it for phone calls and dont really use GPS and stuff you should get maybe a day and a half.
So dont worry about the external charger, it's not true. What I did when I first got the battery I charged it 100% let it drain all the way and then recharged it. This is just so the phone understand the capacity of the new battery. At first it may seem a bit "iffy" but dont worry it'll live upto it's potential.
Hope this helps. Later!

Thanks obloivior72,
I'm going to charge it up now and try it.
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Just remember let it sit for another hour after it says it's full, Actually leave it for 2 just to be safe. I can't emphasize this enough! Glad I was able to be of some help! Enjoy your new battery.

Graph looks something like this.
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Each tick mark on the X axis is 10 minutes. It took about 2 hrs to get the battery from 20% to 100%, then another good 90 minutes to really complete the charge (light green during this time).

Im using an SBC kernel. Its a little bit taboo on these forums right now but if you can get your hands one one it will def do the trick without jumping through hoops. Just read up on it first. Search the forums and do some reading about it before flashing. There's a lot of conflicting opinions on both sides about it so read about it then you decide.
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I looked into the sbc kernels but with the bad info and everything I cant make the jump. I charged for 2 hours after full so I'm going to test it now till it dies while running calkulins 1.7.7. I'll let everyone know how it goes. I appreciate all the tips. Hopefully this makes my evo complete.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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mikel719 said:
So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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WHOA!!!! I told you!!! Thats awesome bro, congrats!

I'm stoked. Now I don't have to always take my charger with me.
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This is what Seido told me to do if it isn't charging adequately:
"Please try to fully drain the battery until the phone completely shuts off automatically and then charge with the OEM AC charger that came with your device. Repeat this process 3 consecutive times. This will recondition and also recycle battery usage for best performance.
Thank you,
Seidoonline Technical Support"
However, doing this when the battery is new really doesn't do any good. It would be useful after some time using it since these are "smart batteries".
Just charge it normally and should be good to go.

First time charge on Xperia Play ?

Hi I just got a brand new Xperia Play today I turned it on and it had 18% battery life left.
I wanted to ask how long shall I charge the Xperia Play for ?
Thanks

Leave it on the charger until it says 100%. In fact, it would be even better if you let it go completely dead and then charged it. I usually just put mine on the charger when I go to bed and it's full when I get up. I think it only takes a couple hours otherwise.
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netizenmt said:
Leave it on the charger until it says 100%. In fact, it would be even better if you let it go completely dead and then charged it. I usually just put mine on the charger when I go to bed and it's full when I get up. I think it only takes a couple hours otherwise.
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So you leave it on charge for the whole night ?

Does anyone know why the battery goes down even when the phone is idle? By go down, I mean quite recognizably as my old ZTE blade didn't seem to do this significantly.
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KindaUndisputed said:
Does anyone know why the battery goes down even when the phone is idle? By go down, I mean quite recognizably as my old ZTE blade didn't seem to do this significantly.
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That happens with my Xperia Play as well even though I don't have any apps running. Btw how much does yours go down by? A few percent is normal.

KindaUndisputed said:
Does anyone know why the battery goes down even when the phone is idle? By go down, I mean quite recognizably as my old ZTE blade didn't seem to do this significantly.
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Because you're device still requires power to run, even if it's in the idle state. When the phone is in Standby and Idle, it will require far less power then say if the screen is turned on but not doing anything. You may have to see if there are other running services in the background (which is most likely the case).
After rooting and removing most/all bloatware, you'll notice that standby/idle take hardly any battery life from your phone.

Hi! Every phone that was newly bought should charge up to 8 hours. Every phone dealer told me that, I even charge mine 8 hours when I first bought it. It'll be better if you charge it 8 hours at first, the battery will last longer.
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Giankwang said:
Hi! Every phone that was newly bought should charge up to 8 hours. Every phone dealer told me that, I even charge mine 8 hours when I first bought it. It'll be better if you charge it 8 hours at first, the battery will last longer.
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I actually don't think charging it for 8 hours prolongs the battery life.
4 hours is enough.

It doesn't matter with modern lithium batteries, just charge it as and when you like

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It doesn't matter with modern lithium batteries, just charge it as and when you like
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Yeah true. Just charge it until you reach 100%. It doesn't make a difference if you leave the charger in or not after 100%

Thanks guys
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maybe, anyways I think just charge it up to 100% and let charge for a little more while, and just unplug it and you're Playstation Certified!

Battery WOW!

Might be an anomaly but wow! Using a standard qcell with nfc.
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it shows as if it nearly died and you recharged it or put in a second battery...

Deputy13 said:
it shows as if it nearly died and you recharged it or put in a second battery...
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That would make more sense. I was trying to remember if I had swapped batteries out and couldn't remember. Sucks being old Wasn't even looking at the graph either. Feel pretty stupid about now. Thanks for that. j/k Why didn't it reset when the battery changed?
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No clue, mind of its own I reckon. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt. I'm sure there is an actual real answer, but I don't know it lol
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crawrj said:
That would make more sense. I was trying to remember if I had swapped batteries out and couldn't remember. Sucks being old Wasn't even looking at the graph either. Feel pretty stupid about now. Thanks for that. j/k Why didn't it reset when the battery changed?
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I'm not sure if the phone can tell the change in battery as it doesn't have any hardware id per say. About the graph, it only resets on a full charge?

i have rooted, changed rom and kernel and i am not getting that much better battery life.. my phone was 100% over night when I woke up it was at 91%. i googled 1 thing and went down to 83%. not sure what to say about this anymore...

I get about 2 days with 3 hours on. Works for me.

2 days 3 hours? are you using your phone or just letting it sit there?

lostsoul565 said:
2 days 3 hours? are you using your phone or just letting it sit there?
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Ummmmm I use it when I need to. Im not a "heavy" user I guess. But it works for me. I don't care much about battery life. As long as it lasts a day that's fine for me. I have a charger at work, car and home so I don't worry about it. You have to realize, I charge before I go to bed. So the phone sits all night for about 8 hours. Then goes the full day. Then again that night it sits for about another 8 hours. So there are pretty much 2 nights where it sits and is not being used.

I use to get a day and a half charge same method but now my phone dies so quickly I don't if my car charger could be the reason for the sudden change I've been using it a lot for gps

I had a problem with mine the other night too, I charged it, took it off the charger at 100% and 15 mins later it was down to 91 % without being used. Within two hours it was down to 31% and extremely hot with no use. When I checked what was using the battery it showed android os . I did a factory reset and the phone has amazing battery life again!!!
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jasvncnt1 said:
I get about 2 days with 3 hours on. Works for me.
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I also can make 2 days easily using the phone, browsing the news and taking emails (3 accounts).
How ? No GPS, no LTE, disabled all bloatwares, auto brightness on, bluetooth on only 1 hour each day while driving to/from work.

How do you disable bloatware

dajeoo said:
I had a problem with mine the other night too, I charged it, took it off the charger at 100% and 15 mins later it was down to 91 % without being used. Within two hours it was down to 31% and extremely hot with no use. When I checked what was using the battery it showed android os . I did a factory reset and the phone has amazing battery life again!!!
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Sounds like the Gsiff_daemon bug.

ariel123 said:
How do you disable bloatware
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Most of the bloatwares can be disabled by going to the Settings-Application Manager and then select All. Now select an app, for example at&t navigator, you'll see a button that says Disable, hit that button and you have successfully disabled that app. Do the same for rest of the other app.
Note: some of the default apps won't need disabled, until you are rooted and have Titanium backup.
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I have used it a full day giving it a beat!!!
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I wasn't impressed at first use of my Hyperion 4200 may battery, but the second full cycle charge is really impressing me!
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I am running task & ktoonzes aokp rom, using the scary governor and underclocking to 1080 mhz. I also have juice defender ultimate running & a screen filter. I am a moderate user. I use my phone for internet lte, emails, nothing major really. Anyway, I am easilly getting two days of solid moderate use. My wife looks at me a little funny when I don't charge my phone at night. lol

9% left and seeing how far I can go.
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While traveling around Japan for the past few weeks
Used it mostly to take pictures and videos, listen to music, play pewpew and occasionally watch a movie or two. Held up pretty damn well between charges in flight mode.

[Q] Battery Taking Too Long to Charge

I've had my N2 for a few weeks now. Suddenly, it has taken much, much longer to charge the phone. I calibrated the battery, drained it to 0 and plugged it in. 3 hours later it's still at 50% (and the phone is charging while off. Any suggestions?

Are you using the stock wall charger and cable that came in the box?

The reason the battery is taking so long to charge is because you ran it down to 0. If you want your batter to last longer it's best to use the 80 / 20. What I'm saying is use the phone down to 20% and recharge back to 100%.
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edit...remove my post.

JJ2525 said:
I've had my N2 for a few weeks now. Suddenly, it has taken much, much longer to charge the phone. I calibrated the battery, drained it to 0 and plugged it in. 3 hours later it's still at 50% (and the phone is charging while off. Any suggestions?
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May be a faulty battery. Contact Samsung (I'm assuming that by n2 you mean note 2) and they'll probably send you a new battery.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.

I only had one issue, yesterday, and it was that my phone showed 25 percent charge on stock white Samsung charger/cable and I knew it had been on the charger longer than that. I rebooted and it showed 74%. Not sure what the hell this was about.

Old rules by what standard? Anytime using lithium type of battry is best not to run it down to 0%. I guess you don't have much experence with them besides your phone. I use them everday for my hobby. Sure you can run them down to 0% if you like replacing them quicker.
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andrawer said:
Huh? Its a lithium battery...those old rules dont apply. A little quick google on lithium batteries will explain this.
More than likely slow charges are due to a slow charge plug/cable...many prior posts on the charger.
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Old rules were for NiCad tyoe batteries, where you did want to run them down to 100% and had to deal with other issues. If you do end up doing that Google search you will find the advice given is pretty accurate. Staying out of the high and low ends for long periods will give you many more cycles.
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xfaega said:
Old rules by what standard? Anytime using lithium type of battry is best not to run it down to 0%. I guess you don't have much experence with them besides your phone. I use them everday for my hobby. Sure you can run them down to 0% if you like replacing them quicker.
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my bad.:crying:
I realize now that I actually misread your post and thought your were saying the opposite....I think something is wrong with me?

JJ2525 said:
I've had my N2 for a few weeks now. Suddenly, it has taken much, much longer to charge the phone. I calibrated the battery, drained it to 0 and plugged it in. 3 hours later it's still at 50% (and the phone is charging while off. Any suggestions?
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Buddy i am having the same problem ... did you find any sloutions
i went to service centre those assh**** have no idea and said that note 2 is a bigger phone so it will take 6 hrs to fully charge.
pl help me out

I know this would be obvious, but I figured I will ask anyway. Are you still running the stock kernel, or are you possibly running one without the capability to accept the 2.1A charging?
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JVogler said:
I know this would be obvious, but I figured I will ask anyway. Are you still running the stock kernel, or are you possibly running one without the capability to accept the 2.1A charging?
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How can I check this??
Full charge of my Note 2 is at least 10 hours, it's to much
I have 4.1.1 original firmware

I have a telus note 2, I am running stock software, rooted, I drain battery down to 10% and takes abour 2.5-3 hours to fully charge with stock cable and charger. I have noiced on a custom room it always taking longer to charge. I always charge with phone off.in doing this , I usually can get longer life out of the battery as well.
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Just to show proof of battery. This is with lte turned off and stock 4.2.1 software
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geniolanc said:
How can I check this??
Full charge of my Note 2 is at least 10 hours, it's to much
I have 4.1.1 original firmware
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You would know if you were running a different kernel. You would have had to install it yourself. If you are All stock (ROM, AC adapter, cable) then you have something defective.
Here is my screenon time with everything running all the time on cleanROM with 6400 mah battery.
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Batteries will last thousands of cycles charging to 100% from 50, but maybe 300 cycles charging from 0 to 100. Don't run your battery down so much. Charge it when you're not using it.

Note2 battery drain problem
I too facing battery drain problem in my samsung galaxy note2 from last 1 week after installing lattest software update.
Previously my note2 was charged quickly in within 2 hours. After software upgrade, which came as push message, my battery takes almost 5-6 hours to charge from wall plugin source.
Can any body help me in restoring previous version of software??

New battery how long do I charge initially?

Just like the topic says I just want to know how long should I initially charge the battery and how would I go about doing that if I don't have just a battery charger? It's a stock oem battery I just got from eBay and it didn't come with any instructions so I'm trying to figure out the discharge and charge instructions also so I don't fry this battery
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No special steps necessary.

right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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DocHoliday77 said:
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Yes That's correct steps. Anytime bellow 10 % is good time to charge. Do try to wait till its 100 % before unplugging though. Lithum Ion has only so many Cycles.

RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.

DocHoliday77 said:
What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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Ah I understand... I just want the longest out of my battery but now I'm debating on what phone to get for black Friday! Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.

RedJack117 said:
Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.

DocHoliday77 said:
I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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Aright thank you both... I try not to use the phone on charge anyway so that 20 minute thing is fine plus I hear it's bad for the battery and I feel like that's what caused My battery to fry in less than a year
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I personally don't even care. I just charge it whenever I want regardless of what percent, and leave it charging overnight and get 100% when I wake up. The best thing about this phone is that it has a removable battery. If my battery ever dies, I'll just buy another one.