Hi all.
My wife updated her piece of fruit and it rocked her world....
I think or guess that google/samsung/sony are gonna sue apple!
Proudly my wife showed me the gallerie app....welll i said whats that, that looks familiar :s .
Its a knock off of the new xperia phones! Even the location based maps thingy is the same as android and xperia.
So my wife was bummed that i said i had that over 2years ago! She wanna sow it of to me
Taskmanager......
That really pisses me off apple is suiing samsung like a drunken monkey trying to impregnate a giraffe that some sh*t looks the same and its apples idea,well i popped the taskmanager open and voilla,another android nock off.
Camera......
Like xperia phones there is a option to enable filters like negative and sepia ect ect where you can see all the filters in realtime all at once next to eachoter.....aaaanndd guess what?!? BAM! The same!
I didnt look any further but i think there is much more that is to close to self develop and just copied
I think if google/sony/samsung are going to do a joint venture against apple i think they really have a case
So what you guys think of it if you have seen it?
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I read this post. Felt it was unfair if I didn't try it. And I did the update today on mom's fruit phone. And yes IOS7 pictures have been flying all over the Internet since it first made its debut. And they've been comparing it to Android showing it'd a complete knock off. Then again this is cooks way of using Jobs version of 'We're very proud about stealing ideas' but what makes me want to burn the company to the ground is when their moron of a spokesperson goes and says in the first minute with a bloody white background 'Apple had been trying to innovative,_______ the first of its kind.' I hate that line with a passion!
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unfortunately apple is not that stupid, they copy things that are not under patent, usually
anyway..let's stop talking about ios7..this is only free advertising for they
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unfortunately apple is not that stupid, they copy things that are not under patent, usually
anyway..let's stop talking about ios7..this is only free advertising for they
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Android is open source right, but what about touchwiz and xperia and every system app the make,like camera app ect.ect. is that patented or something?
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The task manager is more of a rip off of webOS than android. I remember when iOS got the notification drawer. I thought that was very Android-like. I've never liked Apple or their products. I hate that Apple seems to be pushing the 5C more than the 5S right now. The 5C is the only commercial I have seen on TV so far. Thats messed up for people who dont follow this stuff. Most people are probably thinking that thats the new upgrade to their iPhone 5 which, in reality, is the same exact phone with a cheaper casing. I dont even know why Apple is advertising that thing. iOS 7 is nothing special. Just a redesigned OS that does the same stuff. But I guess you cant really do all that much when your OS is nothing but icons on a background. But whatever, I will never own an Apple product. Rant over. lol
Android is open source, ios 7 is not,
from my point, i prefer android, it will be cheap if you get a android tablet.
IOS7 is really nice. That saying, Android has copied many things from iOS whether you believe it or not. It is now going the other way around. Apple has really integrated and optimized everything though.
bnguyen1983 said:
IOS7 is really nice. That saying, Android has copied many things from iOS whether you believe it or not. It is now going the other way around. Apple has really integrated and optimized everything though.
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thats true, but iOS is still a limited os in every aspect..android with the nexus google experience, and not the crap samsung series, it's only getting better and better over years
Let Apple copy everything, it won't make much difference if they don't have comparable hardware and get rid of iTunes crapware.
Also having Apple around is better for Android since that means we'll just benefitting by getting better/sooner updates/improvements.
They're advertising the 5c because higher profit margins. Its the phone that will go head to head with android in developing countries markets I.e. India and China.
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They're advertising the 5c because higher profit margins. Its the phone that will go head to head with android in developing countries markets I.e. India and China.
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The iPhone 5c is still $749 in Australia yet only $99 in the US, I don't see why they call it a budget iPhone lol.
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You may as well get the iPhone 5s if crapple are only offering the iPhone 5c cheap to US customers, anyway I have iOS 7 on my iPad Mini an its garbage, android looks like its been brought back from 10 years ahead into the future an created by a super intellegent alien race when compared to boring old iOS 7 of today made by a bunch of primate's.
Also the new iTunes radio feature is only available to US users of crapple, when apple says iOS 7 brings over 200 new features you know they mean 200 more bugfixes an jailbreak proof.
The only apps worth having an that I use on my iPad Mini are actually made by google an I would gladly trade my iPad for a Samsung galaxy tab any day of the week .
iOS is gay. And this is coming from a dude who likes dudes.
I really do hope ios7+ improves the iPhone. This will push Android and other mobile OS's to improve. Notice how Android devices improved drastically since the iPhone 4. Not that Android is getting stale. No matter android or iOS is not going anywhere anytime soon.
On a side note it is frustrating to an extent how much Apple borrowed from android but what ever it's about time they did something. God forbid they they invest money in improving their product rather than sue competition. Which definitely considering Samsung's success.
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Wowwww. never thought I would say this for an iPhone. Always a loyal WinMo user and HTC user, recently changed to Android from WinMO. Now this iPhone 4 would be REALLY hard to resist ..... I am being converted ..
Check the live blog:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/steve-jobs-live-from-wwdc-2010/
I guess, now the only issue on which iPhone 4 lacks is the Flash.
What are the opinions guys. Who is dumping HTC/Android/WinMo for iPhone 4????
Nice hardware, shame it runs Apple OS really.
Can't believe how excitedly they were reporting video calls (wifi only btw!) - like it was some major revolution. Have they been living in caves!?
Hardware looks 'ok', but nothing that I would'nt expect from the latest phone on the market. Other than that, as said, as long as it's made by Apple, runs Apple's OS and is held down by the restrictions that follows, I'm never going to consider it over Android.
looks alrite, but i still prefer my HTC and android over apple.
thought android had overtaken iphone in market share???
Android forever )!
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I personally think the box-like shape is terribly ugly. It looks like a portable hard drive.
Couldn't find anything terribly appealing in it.
Would pick up the open-Android over closed-iPhone any day!
Apple can suck the sweat from my balls! I will never buy an Apple product.
I dislike the level of arrogance they seem to have and the business practices they use. And the way Jobs tries to sell us old ideas and features, as new and "revolutionary" really grinds my gears.
That said, the new iphone looks like a sugary sweet device.
battery life looks great though I'd trade that any day! haha
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Nice hardware, shame it runs Apple OS really.
Can't believe how excitedly they were reporting video calls (wifi only btw!) - like it was some major revolution. Have they been living in caves!?
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It IS a major revolution... cause Steve Jobs says so.
Please believe me when I say this: if someone would offer me an iPhone 4 in exchange for my HTC Desire I'd take the iPhone, sell it and buy a HTC Incredible (and keep the change )
Android all the way
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looks alrite, but i still prefer my HTC and android over apple.
thought android had overtaken iphone in market share???
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nope, android is no way near apple in terms of market share.
but anyway, the phone looks pretty awesome (326 ppi screen!!!)
video calling over wifi only sucks, but fring is already on the app store and im pretty sure they could add video like on the evo (if apple lets it! which they probably wont!)
flash isn't a huge issue for me because all the websites i use for video (like iplayer, tvcatchup.com) already work on the iphone.
the level of polish on the iphone software is also awesome, it's so fast and smooth, and the quality/number of apps on the app store blows the android market away.
will i be getting one? probably not, they're so darn expensive! and i'd miss the customisation you get with android.
Pure Marketing
*cough*
Evo 4g which is actually 4g lol
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nope, android is no way near apple in terms of market share.
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Thats not true. Android outsold Apples Iphone in US alraedy back in April.
http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/android-outselling-iphone/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/may/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone
nope, android is no way near apple in terms of market share.
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Thats not true. Android outsold Apples Iphone in US alraedy back in April.
http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/android-outselling-iphone/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/may/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone
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Yeah, for one quarter!
No doubt that android will pass the iPhone on terms of market share but its not there yet!
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Thats not true. Android outsold Apples Iphone in US alraedy back in April.
http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/android-outselling-iphone/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/may/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone
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Those results were just for the first quarter of this year. It means Android is starting to catch up, but crApple have sold way more in the past so still has a bigger user base.
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What are the opinions guys. Who is dumping HTC/Android/WinMo for iPhone 4????
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I'll have an iPhone when you put it in my cold, dead hands.
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Thats not true. Android outsold Apples Iphone in US alraedy back in April.
http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/android-outselling-iphone/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/may/10/google-android-outsells-apple-iphone
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Apple's market share is 3 times that of Android - and this is only in the US, Android isn't as popular elsewhere in the world.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/05/iphone-vs-android-report-finds-apple-has-three-times-googles/
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I guess, now the only issue on which iPhone 4 lacks is the Flash.
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I would say the only issue is the fact the iPhone is "Apple opereted". Nice piece of work but I don't like the "jail feeling" of this OS!
So you can still show me the perfect hardware, I'll pass my way...
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I would say the only issue is the fact the iPhone is "Apple opereted". Nice piece of work but I don't like the "jail feeling" of this OS!
So you can still show me the perfect hardware, I'll pass my way...
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yeah i think that's the only reason why all of us are using android, we want to do what we want with our phones!
but i dont blame apple for doing it, i really don't think the iphone would be were it is today if apple let developers and users do whatever they want. with apple controlling everything you get a reliable, consistent smooth operation, which the average user loves. Average Joe doesn't care if apps have to be approved by apple - in fact the average apple users has no idea what goes on in terms of apps and restrictions - all they see is the end product.
the few that do either go android or jailbreak!
The iPhone always looked like a good idea to me on the face of things but I wouldn't get on because they're too expensive and the OS is too closed. There are some ways where the iPhone and the apple OS currently out does Android, susch as the apps, but on balance a Desire running Android is still the phone for me. I know lots of people who have an iPhone who will definitely get it, and if they're happy with the OS and the cost there's not really any reason not to.
I own an android phone. I've always owned android stuff I don't like iOS but I don't sit there going crapple this crapple that. Iphones have their place my step dad asked me what phone to get I said iPhone because its just easier same with my mom. They are still good phones. Yea apple is run by douchebags but that's not the point in this post. Why is it if I love Android I have to hate iOS? I mean I love my Xbox I don't hate PlayStation. Don't hate so much. /rant
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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This.
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Its not that we hate apple its the fact that we love android more. Android can do more and is not closed source.
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and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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Yeah but... Fandroids are like that too..
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I actually really like the the design and function of their products. Same as others said before me, I don't like their business practices.
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Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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This.
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Agreed apple create this illusion of eliteness (if that is even a word) with their OS and products. For example Facetime only for iphone users.... what the hell is wrong with skype. But overall I don't hate apple they make some good stuff.
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OK... I've seen douchery from Android users too... so don't be throwing stones in glass houses. It happens in every sector where there's two or more predominant or prevailing standards. People are people, and don't always consider that the opposite camp is full of people too.
As for what Apple's business practices, they've become more like corporate America and it's only this visible because it's become a clash of titans in the market. Patent lawsuits happen ALL THE TIME. It shows up more for us because we're swimming in the same waters as the players in the lawsuits.
All that being said, I have both. I love both for very different reasons and the pro's/con's comparison chart has polar opposites on most individual items with some overlap. But I'm not a fan boy of either since I put my douchery baton in the trash many years ago... we all should.
Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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Its not that we hate apple its the fact that we love android more. Android can do more and is not closed source.
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Its how they do buisness, the iPhone is good, youd be stupid to say its a heap of trash but its just their buissness style. Take this USA gnex ban they just pulled off on court, just cos they can't produce anything better they throw their toys out the pram instead and the fact the courts don't just say they are being childish annoys me.
People buy apple cos their friends got one, the good advertising and are not clever enough to find a better product for their money.
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No problem with Apple products. As far as they go, fine. They do it well. I have an issue with Apple as a company, their patent system which almost seems to be based on bribes and greed, the almost stomach churning fanbase and the awful closed system where 99% of content is forced through iTunes.
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Yeah but... Fandroids are like that too..
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this is also true, but im more talking about a feeling of being elite just because of a product. it is more apparent with apple users from my observation.
apple is also lawsuit happy right now, which i also detest
A lot of it comes from apple users thinking they're doing stuff symbian, palm and blackberry owners have been doing for awhile. And then apple itself makes it worse with some of the patents like they really did invent smart phones.
butter and jelly please...
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Its how they do buisness, the iPhone is good, youd be stupid to say its a heap of trash
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i never said the iphone was a piece of trash. i dont mind it, but its not for me personally.
I like the build quality (not the design, glass on the back of the phone? really?) and how polished the OS is. However I had to use ios5 as a replacent as my GNEX was out for repairs and that was easily the worst month of my life as far as communications was concerned. Apple phones are not for myself, I would not trade my macbook air for anything else in the world tho.
oh boy a thread for Apple's white knights to post in....
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i never said the iphone was a piece of trash. i dont mind it, but its not for me personally.
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See this. I am actually seeing a lot more sense in here than I assumed I would. Their business practices suck but its a good quality product and its great for some people.
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Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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I xx'th that; in addition, iProducts simply does not fit my requirements: local ogg vorbis support (nearly 10000 of home made audio files are in vorbis), removable battery (I have to switch battery at least twice a day), no direct download from app, cloud, and FTP, no AWS HSPA (don't ask me to switch elsewhere for iProducts, and..."back button" is not always available (app switch button on 3.x and 4.x is pretty handy).
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I own an android phone. I've always owned android stuff I don't like iOS but I don't sit there going crapple this crapple that. Iphones have their place my step dad asked me what phone to get I said iPhone because its just easier same with my mom. They are still good phones. Yea apple is run by douchebags but that's not the point in this post. Why is it if I love Android I have to hate iOS? I mean I love my Xbox I don't hate PlayStation. Don't hate so much. /rant
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I had an iPhone 4. To be honest I liked it a lot. But for an advanced user its so basic and restrictive its suffocating.
I agree. IPhone is a pick up and go device. A lot of people, even most Android users use the phones as they are. And to be honest the iPhone is more user friendly then Android. Which is good for people that aren't electronically inclined or older folk that want to stay up to date with modern technology without complexity. Same for people that buy dells or HPs. They want to pick it up and use it as it is. They don't care about updating software, drivers, firmware, hardware.
On the topic of patent battles. This is a chance for Samsung and Google to show the open source community and the general public what innovation is all about.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I actually really like the the design and function of their products. Same as others said before me, I don't like their business practices.
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This.
I used to own 2 iPods, 2 iPod Touch and still have the original iPhone somewhere in my house.
They really did make awesome products back then but then they just stopped trying and shift their attention to stop everyone else from trying to innovate.
We all know the core idea of innovation is to take an existing idea/concept and make it better.
I read somewhere on here last year or this year to date (forget which) they spent more on lawyers than on research and design and then claim to be an innovative company. Bollocks to that
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I hate apple of sh*t!
Great video. I really hope thats not what the new ios is cause thats too lame.
But then again it should be more than enough for google to ban sales of anything using it with the way things are unfortunately happening lately.
I couldn't make it to the end of the video..looking at ios5 put me to sleep!
Apple is pathetic, they can't compete with the software that Android has become so they are trying to limit consumer choice to the almighty (POS) iPhone.
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Apple is pathetic, they can't compete with the software that Android has become so they are trying to limit consumer choice to the almighty (POS) iPhone.
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It is not a pos, it is a great phone. Android also has some great phones. But the two are great for different reasons. It is a matter of choice, and consumer choice should rule, not litigation.
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It is not a pos, it is a great phone. Android also has some great phones. But the two are great for different reasons. It is a matter of choice, and consumer choice should rule, not litigation.
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Choice?
lmfao.
These people are brainwashed.
SocialReject said:
Choice?
lmfao.
These people are brainwashed.
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If you refer to advertising and the great marketing, I agree with you, but Apple became kind of the new Nokia. If someone without a clue of technology asks me what phone they should buy, i hesitate to say Android, because it needs more effort and intelligence to set the phone up... But Nokia failed with their bad developement, so will Apple. Project Glass will whipe out smartphones & Apple
project glass?
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If you refer to advertising and the great marketing, I agree with you, but Apple became kind of the new Nokia. If someone without a clue of technology asks me what phone they should buy, i hesitate to say Android, because it needs more effort and intelligence to set the phone up... But Nokia failed with their bad developement, so will Apple. Project Glass will whipe out smartphones & Apple
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I would have been inclined to agree with you 4 years ago...now, not so much. Android is painfully easy now. In fact, a lot of things are even easier than iOS until Apple steals more "innovations" from Android and Windows Phone for iOS 6.
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- Apple - Innovation through litigation
- Apple iPhones - smartphones for dumb people
- An Apple product is like being at a great buffet but not being allowed to eat much
Some of the stuff I think to myself when I look at my buddy's 4S
Apple makes great products, they innovate and when they don't they compensate with their design, packaging, marketing and branding which is world class, appealing even sexy. Then they start dictating what you can and cannot do with their stuff, after you've paid a premium price for it, and that's where they lose me.
sammy shoulda have shown this video on court
Very nice, gotta love pointing out the obviously copied ideas. Just watch them try to patent the ideas now.
Thanks for sharing this.
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So when will they patent software and method for showing notifications, with a pull down menu from a bar blah blah blah?
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That's some funny stuff.. I couldn't watch the video because I was trying to catch all the one liners in the text. Lol
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Apple makes great products, they innovate and when they don't they compensate with their design, packaging, marketing and branding which is world class, appealing even sexy. Then they start dictating what you can and cannot do with their stuff, after you've paid a premium price for it, and that's where they lose me.
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Since when?
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Since when?
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Here's a great example... http://gizmodo.com/5940045/bruce-willis-planning-legal-battle-to-leave-itunes-library-in-his-will
They won't let Bruce Willis Will his iTunes collection to his kids.
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If you refer to advertising and the great marketing, I agree with you, but Apple became kind of the new Nokia. If someone without a clue of technology asks me what phone they should buy, i hesitate to say Android, because it needs more effort and intelligence to set the phone up... But Nokia failed with their bad developement, so will Apple. Project Glass will whipe out smartphones & Apple
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I'd have to disagree on this, My mom had no issues picking up a MyTouch 3g and using it. Only thing she had to get use to was using a touch screen and it took her all of 2 weeks to get use to using a touch screen. She easily setup a password, sync'd her contacts, added music, etc. and that was on android 1.6
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Uuuuh, 2 huge things I can think of off the top of my head.
1. Only allowed to download Apple approved apps from the app store, no side loading.
2. Entire file system is not accessible by the user.
Just these two put up some huge barriers for people who want to do whatever they want with the hardware, and furthers the idea that they only let you do what they want you to do.
Before anyone jumps the gun and calls me a fan boy of apple im not! I love my Galaxy.
I Was sitting at work bored and i started thinking about how IPhone is just so hated on as is IOS. So my question to you guys.
What do you think apple needs to do to capture more of the Smartphone Market. In my honest opinion I think iphone is fine hardware wise but i strongly belive that Apples needs to Rebuid IOS from the ground up instead of adding to it every year.
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Make themselves open source and being less anal about certain phone features.. and possibly lowering their retarded prices.
My 2 cents..
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they can't. They lost to Microsoft. They'll lose again
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There's a lot apple would have to do to beat out android. Being open source and price yes just as the two above me have posted. They also need to get adobe flash player added to their devices. This is one of their largest set backs. But the main thing they need to do is stop thinking they are better than android as of now. Just because you own certain patents does not give the right to sue your screen manufacturer. Apple suing Samsung was a huge problem for me and made me sell my iPad and iPod because their using their name as leverage. Just a few opinions that I have and not in any way garbage talking about anyone or thing.
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Before anyone jumps the gun and calls me a fan boy of apple im not! I love my Galaxy.
I Was sitting at work bored and i started thinking about how IPhone is just so hated on as is IOS. So my question to you guys.
What do you think apple needs to do to capture more of the Smartphone Market. In my honest opinion I think iphone is fine hardware wise but i strongly belive that Apples needs to Rebuid IOS from the ground up instead of adding to it every year.
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obviously the iPhone is not hated ok because millions of people bought it in the US. they are getting more hate though ever since the lawsuits. wish they didn't start that so there would be good competition and innovation. maybe we'd be further along with tech by now.
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They Cant
They cant beat Android because they are left with nowhere to go as far as innovating/adding features to IOS. Android builds and builds on top of what they have often while apple just pushes out the same crap os.
Seriously put the first IOS release next to the newest and the only difference will be folders. LOL. Oh and wallpapers. Other than that they are identical. Android on the other hand is night and day from what it was to what it is now. The features are hundreds of times better and more plentiful. You couldnt pay me to go back to ios (yeah I use to be an iphone user up until the 3gs, but after seeing the 3gs I realized that they were just money gouging and not adding any damn thing) because of their lazy os.
I also love that they are stealing features from Android now and not even trying to cover it up. The iphone 5 dimentions look stupid as hell. I cant wait to see the flop that is the iphone 5 tomorrow. So damn terrible. Android FTW!
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There's a lot apple would have to do to beat out android. Being open source and price yes just as the two above me have posted. They also need to get adobe flash player added to their devices. This is one of their largest set backs. But the main thing they need to do is stop thinking they are better than android as of now. Just because you own certain patents does not give the right to sue your screen manufacturer. Apple suing Samsung was a huge problem for me and made me sell my iPad and iPod because their using their name as leverage. Just a few opinions that I have and not in any way garbage talking about anyone or thing.
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I work in graphic art and prepress systems since 1990 and all my life in work we used mainly apple computers and my conclusion is that they cannot do nothing in their attitude. This is their attitude and they think they are better than the others. Many times they was innovative but always this was their dumb because they was always kept the doors closed to others and the free spirit of a user. All their OS systems they was like that was made for stupid users, all the system things was closed and you always if you was using any apple device you needed to accept how the things are supposed to work without giving you the freedom of touching nothing. Isn't obvious that 85% of PC are with windows a big growing percent with linux and 5 or less percent with apple.
For me their last chance was the 1st iphone a phone that was pretty good in that time with fancy loocking etc but after 1 month went to girlfriend simply because again to have what I need I had to hack it or to pay a fortune for apps that a simple symbian or WM was doing out of the box.
As for the main question in this thread well I don't think they can do anything about it, this company has DNA problem and honestly I don't care now. Iphone 5 or iphone11 will be again the same plate in the same table with the same food on it, fancy announcement that will catch the chicks and some guys and that's it(and most of the Americans something that I don't understand honestly). In the era we live we must be happy that exist companies like samsung were they do the great hardware that they do and we have an almost open source software like android.
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And adding a 4" screen& moving a few things around, selling it for hundreds of dollars and saying its a new design. Apple is far behind
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My two favourite brands are Samsung and HTC. Thats not to say I wouldn't change to another Android maker. But iOS you've only one maker Apple and, no choice apart from 16GB or 32GB. That would be like only having carrier !
I like choice and Android gives me that.
DaMan90 said:
And adding a 4" screen& moving a few things around, selling it for hundreds of dollars and saying its a new design. Apple is far behind
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Exactly. The sad thing is so many of their sheeple will just buy it and act like its something new. Same stupid ass IOS in a slightly bigger case. So damn lame. I hate apple.
They need to give more freedom to the developers to do what they want with their app. Apple is lucky that there are so many developers making jailbreak tweaks to make their iPhone a lot better to use. Without jailbreak, iPhone is complete useless on some of the basic functions. The only advantage that iPhone has is the amount of apps they have in their appstore. Without the amount of apps they have in their appstore, I would not even consider getting an iPhone. Not that I would consider it now because S3 is such a great device.
In my opinion, they're already winning this war. It's us who need to catch up to them. I live in Orlando and the amount of iphone is staggering compared to galaxy s. A lot of people I know are anticipating tomorrow.... As long as this world exists, there will be something for the mainstream
for apple to win, they must copy Android's abilities for customization such as widgets and different keyboards. also, believe it or not, bigger screens. i remember back in the day Apple used to crap on Android saying 4"screen is way too big... oh what fools they look like now..
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Apple will never catch up to Android. Ever. The reason being is exactly the reason Taysider mentioned. iOS is designed, maintained, and serviced by one company and one company alone, Apple. It is closed source and offers zero customization options. Apple imposes very strict rules on development and doesn't encourage innovation from outside it's company even if it was developed solely for their device.
Android offers a multitude of different devices to fit the needs of any user, from the beginner smartphone user to the life long developer. Android is open source and Google encourages development of customization and drives innovation actively from it's end users. Android is constantly evolving to better meet the needs and wants of it's users and Google actually listens to it's users rather than dictating what the user will want/need.
Apple will never let go of it's precious iOS. IFand that's a big if, they would let iOS go open source and allow other manufactures to use it while also allowing open development of custom ROMS and MODS they MAY gain some market share back. As it stands, you will see a small increase in market share after the release of a new generation iPhone, but it will decline again shortly after.
Just my opinion.
Android is a disease! it spreads out! and there is no cure!!!
Apple needs to bring back Steve Jobs.
It's a disease alright but a good one.
Noticed eBay and other sites that sell used mobile devices lately?
See the amount of iPhone's being dumped at these sites.
You will get the picture where 'apple is heading.
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Apple is always very popular，why？
I f Apple wants to beat Android, my personal opinion is Apple has to go open source, release an Apple phone with every carrier along with havin many different Apple phone models..
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Pete7ate said:
Apple is always very popular，why？
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Apple has been around for a long time it's always been very simple to use, super easy interfaces and they just have a cult following do to those reasons.
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Also I've noticed especially here in Las Vegas Apple is huge with the older crowd. Take my mother for example she has an 8gig iPhone 3Gs. AT&T offered her any phone in the store for free even the Galaxy S3. She was trying to get an iPhone 4 not even a 4s for free but they wouldn't do an iPhone for free she refused she turned it down and decided to stick with your old iPhone even though the battery holds only a 2 hlur charge now.
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Anyone else see this KitKat/Android? Good watch!!!
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Anyone else see this KitKat/Android? Good watch!!!
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As a rule, American mainstream chocolates are disgustingly sugary confections designed to make you gag.
Please don't break me off a piece of that KitKat Bar. :silly:
How about Android Diabetes Type 1, six months later to be followed by Diabetes Type 2?
Wow someone is cynical...
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Wow someone is cynical...
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And why not?
It is an extremely cynical move by two massive megacorp companies (both with troubled ethical histories) betting LOTS of money on people being brainless stupid herdable sheep. Instead of calling me cynical, you should feel a bit affronted at Google....because both these corps are saying very blatantly that they think we consumers are brainless programmable robots who will jump when asked.
Google and Nestle can claim no money was traded hands all they want...but there was quid pro quo, you can bet your entire lifetime earnings and savings there was.
I don't like eating chocolates now a days but Kit Kat is very relatable and very marketable.
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That statement is crap and heres why everyone has a choice to do or in this case eat whatever or however much of somthing too much water is harmful to your health. So please stop saying americans cause like I said everyone has a choice. And for the fact I was born in Jamaica and live in America
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Honestly great marketing ploy. Hope it works out well for both products. I'm not a fan of KitKat. I don't like the crunchy center crap. But hey, why not.
Now if it were Reese's peanut butter cups, now those I love. And it's not even the chocolate of it. It's their peanut butter that I like.
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because both these corps are saying very blatantly that they think we consumers are brainless programmable robots who will jump when asked.
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Ohhh just like Apple, INC. Put it in colors, change a letter and sell another billion of them. Brainless programmable robots will line up for days. If you can't beat them, join them.
Haven't seen a single one yet. All normal kit kat bars in stores.
With the horrible Halloween coming up, all the candy is starting to have a halloween theme. A good idea on google's part, but perhaps poorly timed.
i really hate people using the word "sheep" like they're not one also. we're all sheep, and choose which flock to run with. saying that, real sheep actually care what they call the new os. tech guys shouldn't give a crap what they call it as long as it's offers improvements.
Yeah cause Hershey would just promote android on all of their packages for free...
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i really hate people using the word "sheep" like they're not one also. we're all sheep, and choose which flock to run with. saying that, real sheep actually care what they call the new os. tech guys shouldn't give a crap what they call it as long as it's offers improvements.
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Agree and disagree:
I disagree with you about the sheep analogy. We are not all sheep choosing flocks to follow. Sheep are herd animals and humans are pack animals (at least this used to be true). The iSheep represent the ever growing part of humanity that has made the transformation into herd animals. I, and many of us here, refuse to be transformed by media/advertizing/image consultants into a bleating wooly douchebag. The analogy for those like me would be that of the wolf; a pack animal who, whether alone or with his pack, will divide the herd and eventually bite and eat one of them.
I agree that it doesn't matter what branding Android 4.4 has...I've always referred to version anyway
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Is this REALLY worth debating?
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Agree and disagree:
I disagree with you about the sheep analogy. We are not all sheep choosing flocks to follow. Sheep are herd animals and humans are pack animals (at least this used to be true). The iSheep represent the ever growing part of humanity that has made the transformation into herd animals. I, and many of us here, refuse to be transformed by media/advertizing/image consultants into a bleating wooly douchebag. The analogy for those like me would be that of the wolf; a pack animal who, whether alone or with his pack, will divide the herd and eventually bite and eat one of them.
I agree that it doesn't matter what branding Android 4.4 has...I've always referred to version anyway
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Like CHZECK said, version and improvements are all that matter. They can call it ANDROID VERSION CRAP 2.0 for all I care, as long as they fix the bugs, improve the user experience and put APPLE out of business, I am happy!
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Like CHZECK said, version and improvements are all that matter. They can call it ANDROID VERSION CRAP 2.0 for all I care, as long as they fix the bugs, improve the user experience and put APPLE out of business, I am happy!
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Lol yea if apple went out of business I probably would smile. But I doubt it. Unless all android phone make you feel like your apart of a society than its not happening. The only manufacturer that makes you feel as though your part of a society like apple is Samsung. Which is why I like their phones. People see Iphone. And think upper class, sophistication, and belonging. Which gives them a sense of belonging to a group of elite. I mean who dont want to walk around feeling like their worth a million bucks with year old tech smh. We look at Samsung and see innovation, future, and a sense of belonging to a group of intellectual individuals even though on xda some people make me wonder with questions like whats rooting or a kernel, But they have a profile lol. Since Samsung set a stepping stone on what sales and devices should look like htc, lg and everyone else is really stepping it up. So apple may be in trouble in the future but as of right now. There to many zombies for them to sell to.... my bad for the essay
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I personally don't want to see Apple go out of business. I like competition. I think it actually benefits us consumers.
Personally, I don't think Samsung is the bee's knees or anything, but they do make a few products I enjoy, such as the Galaxy Note series smartphone. My enjoy derives nothing from Apple's products. I like they're Android, are rootable with fair ease, have SD card slots, pullable batteries, and actually make the phablet one of the flagship phones, instead of an after though like many other companies.
I'm not an Apple fan. I don't know about the company now with CEO Cook, but under Jobs reign, they were able to make things people found useful and wanted. I don't think they really came up with many ideas that were original, but found the right delivery of it. Plus, since Apple tries to just make everything work, that's that many less people who's electronics I ultimately end up fixing; it gets irritating always fixing other people's crap because they don't have a clue.
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I personally don't want to see Apple go out of business. I like competition. I think it actually benefits us consumers.
Personally, I don't think Samsung is the bee's knees or anything, but they do make a few products I enjoy, such as the Galaxy Note series smartphone. My enjoy derives nothing from Apple's products. I like they're Android, are rootable with fair ease, have SD card slots, pullable batteries, and actually make the phablet one of the flagship phones, instead of an after though like many other companies.
I'm not an Apple fan. I don't know about the company now with CEO Cook, but under Jobs reign, they were able to make things people found useful and wanted. I don't think they really came up with many ideas that were original, but found the right delivery of it. Plus, since Apple tries to just make everything work, that's that many less people who's electronics I ultimately end up fixing; it gets irritating always fixing other people's crap because they don't have a clue.
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Yea the competition is fun. I use to be an apple fan but I've always been more of a fan of customizations. When android came out I was torn because I mean you could customize a iphone 3g and 3gs at the time when jail broken. But android had launchers icons. Colors, mp3 ringtone makers. Rooting, and constantly adding more features. I actually waited for apples response. Now so many years later. Their finally responding with a more customizable ui its to late. Im done with them. Plus I saw people happy as **** that they could swipe their Iphone cross registers and pay for gas all with nfc enabled I laughed. Only because my S3 was doing that while the Iphone 4 was still on 3g like its 3g/s predecessor. Lol or my e4gt was rocking 4g wimax. It's kinda crazy though because in the tortoise and hare race. Apple the tortoise was winning the race with out dated tech smh. Apple is a cult lol
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yea the competition is fun. I use to be an apple fan but i've always been more of a fan of customizations. When android came out i was torn because i mean you could customize a iphone 3g and 3gs at the time when jail broken. But android had launchers icons. Colors, mp3 ringtone makers. Rooting, and constantly adding more features. I actually waited for apples response. Now so many years later. Their finally responding with a more customizable ui its to late. Im done with them. Plus i saw people happy as **** that they could swipe their iphone cross registers and pay for gas all with nfc enabled i laughed. Only because my s3 was doing that while the iphone 4 was still on 3g like its 3g/s predecessor. Lol or my e4gt was rocking 4g wimax. It's kinda crazy though because in the tortoise and hare race. Apple the tortoise was winning the race with out dated tech smh. Apple is a cult lol
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lol, I hate apple!
Would Samsung be the would with all the rumors about them starting up Tizen and all? But most of what you say I believe is true but forgive the newbies. We all were one once
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Would Samsung be the would with all the rumors about them starting up Tizen and all? But most of what you say I believe is true but forgive the newbies. We all were one once
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Samsung runs the world lol considering that they make tons more stuff than just phones. Everything in my house is Samsung. Only apple I own is in the bottom trey of my fridge and thats even rotten
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