Can anyone give someone fairly new to android some tips on what to do next now that I have unlocked and rooted? Running 4.0.2 now btw
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Custom roms.
I know about the roms but more specifically what about the apps that require root access?
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The root apps I use often are adbWireless and Titanium Backup.
But why would you root if you didn't even have a need to do so? Sounds like you're running stock anyway...
Titanium backup is the first app I use that requires root access. It lets you backup all of your apps and their saved data so you can restore them later. I think it is a must have app for any Android user.
Another one I use is SSH Tunnel to get around the corporate firewall when I connect to the wifi at work.
You can also get root file browsers so you can manipulate the system files on your phone.
You can find a lot of apps just by searching for root in the android market.
+1 on Titanium Backup. Here are a few I am using that require root:
LBE Privacy Guard
SetCPU
Nova Launcher (requires root to display widgets in the widget drawer)
ROM Manager
Root Explorer
Also running Android Revolution ROM, which is pretty much stock ICS with a bunch of speed/memory tweaks.
Nand -- the very first thing you should do is a complete nand backup so you have a bit by bit backup of your phone in case you need to restore it. This is beyond Titanium and if you are going to get into ROMs and kernels you will want to make a practice out of this.
I would say research. Typing something along the lines of "top root apps" into Google will bring up a myriad of results. Being able to research and read on your own will go a long way to helping you get out of a situation if you mess up your phone some how.
1) Clockwork Mod Recovery
Most important! Allows you to make a copy of your entire system as is. You make a mistake, you can return your system back to it's original working order. Don't leave home without it!
2) Titanium Back Up
Allows you to back up apps and/or corresponding data. This allows you to restore specific apps without restoring your entire system.
These two apps are commonly known as the two must have apps for root users. They will be your safety net. I would also recommend that you get the paid version on both. You won't want a limited safety net, if you get yourself into a "situation"
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PS A nandroid is backup of your phones entire current system. Clockwork Mod Recovery does that.
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Another +1 for Titanium Backup. I've used it on every phone since the Nexus One and love it. It can even help you migrate apps to new phones, as long as you setup the configuration correctly. Make sure not to save system apps to restore on a different phone (did this when I got my Galaxy S II and it would boot-loop or restart every few minutes...then I remembered I had some system apps in my backup haha).
WiFi Tether: Best tethering app on the planet. Setup is easy (in settings just pick the Galaxy Nexus CDMA/GSM, then assign a name and password to your "router"), use is even easier. Open the app and tap the *only button on the app*. It turns your phone into a wireless hotspot. I used it all last night before my internet was installed (new place), and it worked perfectly. Got 15-25Mbps speeds and it's completely reliable. Played some MMOs using it =P
Rom Manager: Especially helpful once you start using custom roms and such, but also helpful for doing a NAND backup. This will backup your *entire* phone. When you want to restore it'll be as if you were in the exact same place as when you made the backup. Fantastic ability.
Root Manager: Helpful for if you need to browse system files or edit them. Nice for blocking ads, deleting system stuff, etc...
I know on previous phones I could just install RM, and then flash CWM that way. Is that also okay with the GN? I've read topics on how to install CWM but installing via RM just seems a lot easier and quicker.
Please could anyone help me as to how to use titanium back up pro
Silly questions these but never used this or done it b4
.. can I back up my entire rom with all my apps so if I put a new rom on my phone and dont like it I could just revert back to my last rom how I left it??
Also how do you back up just apps properly
How easy is it to restore apps or even full rom if possible to do
Thanks for reading and thanks even more if you leave advice to the note noob
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You should google nandroid backups.. it basically restores your rom to the time you backed it much like a time machine (you go back to your previous condition). This requires a custom recovery which should be your first task after rooting your phone. Titanium backup only backs up apps and app data this is useful because when you flash a new rom you will lose all your data so TB restores all the apps for you and PRO makes restoration super quick..
Everyone's a noob at some point so doing a quick search on your favourite search engine to answer these sort of questions can take you a long way..
Happy flashing
i don't know bout you, but i myself only made a stock rom backup (right after i root and put cwm using odin), after that i never back up any rom i flashed ( i dont know why but i love --or addicted-- to flash almost every new custom rom)... hence i only back up my apps using titanium. with the new update the UI is kinda different, to upload to dropbox (you get 50GB from samsung for 2 years), you have to klick the 3rd tab and press run.
if you choose to backup using sdcard, dont forget to set the destination in setting, i prefer to backup on my ext sd because i often use superwipe before i flash some rom.
after that pres the checkmark in a box on the right edge on the top, it will then diagnose what scenarios are possible for you.
then it'll show you some list just pick one you want and press the check mark again. and you're done.
Hi all,
I got a nexus 7 for Xmas. It's my first Android device but I did have a Dell axim a number of years ago and played around with roms.
I am a happy iOS user but wanted to have a look at Android as it is quite mature now.
So I have rooted my nexus and I wanted ask a few questions
1 I have created a backup using rom manager. Is this a nandoid backup?
2 is it necessary to get rom manager pro? What does the paid version do extra?
3 are any roms available that are based on 4.4 or is it too early?
4 what is the best network media streamer? I have xbmc on my apple TV and I know I can install on my nexus. But should I or are there better options?
5 how do you transfer movies to the nexus? Via USB to the movie folder?
Thanks for any tips. Apologies for the noob questions!
I never used Rom manager so I cannot help you with those questions.
Regarding the other ones, there are many Roms based on 4.4 to 4.4.2 KitKat and for 4.4.2 I would recommend Clean ROM 2.6. Boosts performance and leaves the Tablet almost stock.
The only media streamer I know is XBMC so I cannot recomend anything else.
Once rooted you can drag and drop videos to anywhere you like I believe.
I use Archos Video Player to stream smb shares from my pc. It makes thumbnails for you and has a nice ui.
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Thanks all.
Just found that sky go doesn't work on rooted devices. I thought this was a iOS jailbreak issue!
Any workarounds for this problem for Android?
In superSu hide the root, some apps then work, others remain disabled as is probably a DRM issue which os mire likely because of the unlock
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OK thanks. Very annoying though! I will see if I can find a solution
jago.taylor said:
Hi all,
I got a nexus 7 for Xmas. It's my first Android device but I did have a Dell axim a number of years ago and played around with roms.
I am a happy iOS user but wanted to have a look at Android as it is quite mature now.
So I have rooted my nexus and I wanted ask a few questions
1 I have created a backup using rom manager. Is this a nandoid backup?
2 is it necessary to get rom manager pro? What does the paid version do extra?
3 are any roms available that are based on 4.4 or is it too early?
4 what is the best network media streamer? I have xbmc on my apple TV and I know I can install on my nexus. But should I or are there better options?
5 how do you transfer movies to the nexus? Via USB to the movie folder?
Thanks for any tips. Apologies for the noob questions!
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1 Yes
2 I would get Rom Toolbox, instead. More features.
3 Lots. Check out the N7 development threads.
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Thanks. I'll take a look at rom toolbox.
I have a more general question about whether I really need to root my device. I think I can still install roms without being rooted. Correct?
I find it annoying that apps such as sky go detect rooted devices and you end up in a battle to get these apps working!
when do you need to root? What is the use case (apart from side loading pirated apps that I am not interested in)
Thanks
Welcome to Android...
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Thanks. I'll take a look at rom toolbox.
I have a more general question about whether I really need to root my device. I think I can still install roms without being rooted. Correct?
I find it annoying that apps such as sky go detect rooted devices and you end up in a battle to get these apps working!
when do you need to root? What is the use case (apart from side loading pirated apps that I am not interested in)
Thanks
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Root is an essential part of the Android experience, especially if you want to use everything Android has to offer. You will not be able to flash custom ROMs without having Root. Now I have Rom Manager Pro and I can tell you that when I first started out with Android that app what a lifesaver for me. However, now that I have a bit more experience with ROMs and Recovery Manager I would urge you start learning how to use your recovery manager. Did you install a custom recovery manager when you rooted your Nexus device? If you did not look into installing TWRP Recovery Manager. You can do everything from that Recovery Manager that you can pretty much do with Rom Manager such as make backups. The one great thing about Rom Manager is that it will identify your device and list some Nice ROM's that are available for your specific device. As for root again, some of the best apps available for Android require Root access. Apps like "complete linux installer" which allows you to put Linux on your tablet. Another great app is "titanium backup" this is an app that you will definitely want to buy the pro version. Support your developers! Titanium backup allows you to make a nice backup of all your apps and your user data. Gotten to level 40 on dead trigger 2? An update breaks your favorite app...with Titanium Backup you could restore an older version of an app and even restore your status within a game such as bringing you back to level 40 in the example of dead trigger 2 that i used...which has cloud but it was an example!
Oh one app you should seriously get for your stock Nexus 7 ROM is "quickboot". Quickboot which needs ROOT allows your to reboot your tablet, reboot into recovery mode, and reboot into the bootloader with just one click of a button. This app will truly come in handy on a regular basis...
Now you asked about ROMs...
Of course we have to mention Cyanogenmod! This is being considered the "Cadillac" of ROM's and seems to be a very favorite choice among people starting out with Android to among the most advanced "power users" of Android.
I have tried "Ice Cold Rom Project" and i like that ROM very much...
Another ROM that I can't wait to try out is the "unofficial" OmniROM Project for the Nexus 7. Now this ROM is supposed to support Multi-Windows. Have you seen the Multi-Windows commercials for the Galaxy S4? Supposedly the "unofficial" OmniROM project has made that available for the Nexus 7 and i can't wait to try it out! I will be flashing this Monday...
Here is a link for that ROM on XDA -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533936
Lastly...
You mentioned that one of your apps is not working correctly because your device is rooted? While this has never happened to me personally I don't doubt that it could happen but not exactly sure why root access would cause an app to stop working. Here is something you could try...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyrootadfree
That link above is to an app called "hide my root" that one is the paid version but there is a free one just do a search on the Google Play Store. What it does is hides root or blocks root for taking place for a given period of time. If root really is the problem for that app then this might help as you can block root and then try starting the app...
Well congrats on coming over to Android! I think once you get the hang of things you will never go back to the iOS (maybe!). Android is such an amazing project and operating system but it would not be a quarter of what it is without all of these people here on XDA. The people here are what make Android great and what make the open source community great!. Keep playing with Android and don't worry about taking risks with your tablet. If you make a backup of your ROM you can always flash back your stock ROM as long as you can boot into your Recovery Manager. If you can't there is a way to push a stock ROM to your tablet with ADB. It is almost impossible to brick your Nexus device but still don't make ridiculous mistakes such as not making your backups!
Oh...
Yes you can transfer data from your tablet to your PC in a number of ways. One way is with a USB cable but you need to have the correct drivers installed. Do a google search for USB drivers for your Nexus device and you will find the correct ones you need. Another option that you could use is FTP. The Google Play Store has some great "FTP SERVER" apps which allow you to turn your tablet into an FTP Server. You could then download an FTP client on your PC such as "FileZilla" and log into your Android Tablet and start transferring or downloading files.
I hope this has been helpful for you...
-droidshadow
Thanks driodshadow
I have rom manager, Clockworkmod touch and titanium backup installed. Now I see lots of references to twrp. Is twrp doing the same job as Cwm? Is twrp a better solution?
Looks like I will try to stay rooted but I need to find a Solution to this issue with sky go. I have read that hide my root does not fix sky go. Root detection is getting better!
Thanks again for all your help
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... rom manager, Clockworkmod touch and titanium backup installed. Now I see lots of references to twrp. Is twrp doing the same job as Cwm? Is twrp a better solution?...
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I prefer TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Too many problems with RM, CWM, and TB.
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PhilipTD said:
I prefer TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Too many problems with RM, CWM, and TB.
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I actually find CWM better than TWRP, though I will admit I like the TWRP layout and design better. TWRP asked me for a password when I tried to restore after a softbrick on my N7, I couldn't access my TWRP backup even though I could get into the relevant directory.
After some research I found that this was due to how the boot-loader had been unlocked, however I did it correctly (actually followed an XDA tutorial just to be sure), so I have been a bit put off TWRP because when I really needed it, it didn't work.
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I actually find CWM better than TWRP, though I will admit I like the TWRP layout and design better. TWRP asked me for a password when I tried to restore after a softbrick on my N7, I couldn't access my TWRP backup even though I could get into the relevant directory.
After some research I found that this was due to how the boot-loader had been unlocked, however I did it correctly (actually followed an XDA tutorial just to be sure), so I have been a bit put off TWRP because when I really needed it, it didn't work.
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Maybe give it another try. You can make a CWM backup first, just in case.
I used CWM, RM, and TB on my N1 from the beginning, without problems. Then, a couple of years ago, they all started to wonk out from time to time, so I switched to TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Never have a problem. But maybe I should give the others another try, too.
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Maybe give it another try.
I used CWM, RM, and TB on my N1 from the beginning, without problems. Then, a couple of years ago, they all started to wonk out from time to time, so I switched to TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Never have a problem. But maybe I should give the others another try, too.
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I've decided to stick to CWM on my N7, mainly because I know it and I wanted a recovery I was familiar with while playing around with stuff like Xposed modules. I did like TWRP, I'll probably flash that on my phone over CWM and see how that goes.
I swear by Rom Toolbox, major props to the Dev(s) for that bad boy.
Hey guys, I have been a regular reader of your forums now for a few months. I am still learning so forgive me if I come off as lazy and unwilling to learn, or flat out dumb.
I sometimes get bored and search the web for ways to improve my tablet. I started by rooting and getting custom recovery, xposed, and various root apps just trying to improve performance or learn a bit more. Recently I had come across a list of which system apps are safe to remove. I backed up system apk and odex files and started deleting. My SD card was taken by my sister and she wiped it so she could put music on it. I don't have any real issues with how my tablet is running, but I can no longer open the Memo app without it crashing immediately. From what I have read, I believe my Touchwiz was deleted (if that is possible?) I did also delete my Prepaid installer.apk
Basically, I want to know if what I said makes sense to why Memo keeps crashing; is there perhaps a way to just download any system apps and put their respective APK's back to the system/app folder (or perhaps all I need is the Prepaid installer.apk?);and a little off topic, but how do I make the device status to Official rather than custom and should I even bother with anything OTA for updates.
Thanks for listening to a novice try to bs his way through new tech lingo and sorry if I spoke incorrectly, posted in the wrong section, or any other number of rookie mistakes I may have committed. Xda forums are an absolute goldmine though! Keep up all the great everyone, I hope to become a more active member in the future.
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This is a theoretically long work around, since I was going to give it to you only to realise I no longer have it either xD.......I suppose if you can get a hold of a new sd card, look into Titanium Backup, its a pretty useful app but it requires root permissions. Then if you can find the stock rom for your tab, there should be one somewhere in the development forums for 7", you can flash the stock and root again and install titanium, then backup the memo app to the sd card. Then restore your previous ROM state and install titanium again, switch the folder options to the path where the backup is on the sd card and restore it to that ROM.
As for TouchWiz...I think that's the OS GUI so it's most likely still there if you're using the tab. Not too sure about the prepaid ap though, but if it came with the stock then the above process should work as well.
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
ChewVodka said:
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
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Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
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Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
xLima said:
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
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This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
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Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
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4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
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Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)