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Should I root my Nitro HD?

what are the pros & cons of rooting this particular phone?
general question, i am not at all familiar with rooting, I would not mind doing so if there's a noticeable change.
thanks in advance!

Absolutely NOT! Rooting will make your ears produce too much wax and also infertile!
...But if you don't mind that...
Here are some benefits of having root access:
* Titanium Backup requires root access, which gives it the ability to backup and and all applications (including locked, protected and system apps!)
* It also allows Titanium Backup to REMOVE any app! Including system apps (including the bloated crap the carriers install).
* Someone recently posted about an app called 'Ram Manager', which also requires Root. It's a memory management app and so far I think it's working well
* SetCPU, app that allows you to control the CPU frequency. You can create profiles so you can set the min/max speed of the CPU based on conditions (like set the CPU lower when the battery is below 50%)
* Root Explorer, app that let's you browse the contents of storage. As-is you only have read access to certain directories...With Root you have read/write to all directories
So that's a few things off the top of my head.

Namuna said:
Absolutely NOT! Rooting will make your ears produce too much wax and make you infertile!
...But if you don't mind that...
Here are some benefits of having root access:
* Titanium Backup requires root access, which gives it the ability to backup and and all applications (including locked, protected and system apps!)
* It also allows Titanium Backup to REMOVE any app! Including system apps (including the bloated crap the carriers install).
* Someone recently posted about an app called 'Ram Manager', which also requires Root. It's a memory management app and so far I think it's working well
* SetCPU, app that allows you to control the CPU frequency. You can create profiles so you can set the min/max speed of the CPU based on conditions (like set the CPU lower when the battery is below 50%)
* Root Explorer, app that let's you browse the contents of storage. As-is you only have read access to certain directories...With Root you have read/write to all directories
So that's a few things off the top of my head.
So that's just a few things.
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Appreciated.
it was the ram manager thread that piqued my interest. I went to the app market to get it and noticed it requires root. In checking all that out, I noticed titanium backup also requires it and i was interested in that as well.
So it sounds like there is no real reason NOT to do so, other than voiding the warranty?

scott0 said:
Appreciated.
it was the ram manager thread that piqued my interest. I went to the app market to get it and noticed it requires root. In checking all that out, I noticed titanium backup also requires it and i was interested in that as well.
So it sounds like there is no real reason NOT to do so, other than voiding the warranty?
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You're not really voiding the warranty, since you can alway reflash back the stock ROM on the phone that was not rooted yet, and it will be like nothing was ever changed. But for now, we don't have the stock ROM for flashing yet.

Honestly the employees are pretty clueless and don't check for it you probably wouldn't have any issues with warranty even if you did need to return it to AT&T. Just delete the superuser app and they probably can't tell the difference, the phone will head back to the factory to get reflashed and sold as a refurbished unit anyway.
Titanium backup would be the main reason I'd want root. Being able to "freeze" apps rather than uninstalling them completely is a good way to stop rogue apps or bloatware from preventing the phone from sleeping while giving you the option to restore them any time in case you do need them. It's a good way to test which apps are actually needed and which ones are just bloat.
scott0 said:
Appreciated.
it was the ram manager thread that piqued my interest. I went to the app market to get it and noticed it requires root. In checking all that out, I noticed titanium backup also requires it and i was interested in that as well.
So it sounds like there is no real reason NOT to do so, other than voiding the warranty?
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dinan said:
Honestly the employees are pretty clueless and don't check for it you probably wouldn't have any issues with warranty even if you did need to return it to AT&T. Just delete the superuser app and they probably can't tell the difference, the phone will head back to the factory to get reflashed and sold as a refurbished unit anyway.
Titanium backup would be the main reason I'd want root. Being able to "freeze" apps rather than uninstalling them completely is a good way to stop rogue apps or bloatware from preventing the phone from sleeping while giving you the option to restore them any time in case you do need them. It's a good way to test which apps are actually needed and which ones are just bloat.
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Going somewat off topic here, but have u ever tried returning a phone to AT&T with custom ROMs or even CM7 on it? The reason I asked is cuz my Atrix is currently "broken" and I have insisted to AT&T that I want another phone, and they told me that if they determined it's really broken, they are willing to let me get an early upgrade to the Nitro. But I don't want to have to go through the hassle of wiping n restoring the phone to stock. So I'm wondering if they will actually notice that it's not running stock ROM.

Root it.
Before root I had maybe 6 hrs battery life. It would be dead before I even got home from work. That's hardly using it.
Rooted.
SetCPU
NoBLOAT
disabled a lot of bloat and setcpu profiles my battery life went from extremely poor to getting 12 - 15 hrs of medium use. that's talk time, music, browsing, the works. I'm very happy with this phone now.
Rooting was easy just had to hammer it a few times.
Very pleased.
It's very nice coming back to Android. I had to try the iPhone did it for a year. Will never do it again. Especially since I've been a linux user for 10 years.

thanks for the input folks. any more is also appreciated.
anyne reading this who was planning to root your NITRO and changed your mind?

Can't we use the LG support utility to flash back to the stock rom? I have not attempted it yet, but I think I will give it a shot once I have backed up all my applications... If I learn anything interesting I will let you all know.

i wonder when the LG flash will be available.
went to buy voodoo control and see it requires root as well, so that's 3 pretty big programs i want to use but can't atm. i'm thinking i will root this after work today.
was hoping to not have to hassle with it.

another question
just read this:
"Since this app will ask you for root permissions, be sure you obtain it from a legit source.
Pirated software using superuser are dangerous and can potentially brick or destroy your phone"
does superoneclick legitimately access root?

Not much of a hassle... It worked straight away for me once I installed the right drivers (from LG download) and then picked the right option (charge only) that would allow adb to see the phone. After I had both of those - it took about 5-15 minutes to get done.
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I used a different source - Doom Lord's Easy rooting toolkit (v3.0) as it was just a script file that ran. I was able to inspect the script - not that I can tell the executables are all above board, but I can at least see exactly what is going to happen during the process. And it worked perfectly...

scott0 said:
another question
just read this:
"Since this app will ask you for root permissions, be sure you obtain it from a legit source.
Pirated software using superuser are dangerous and can potentially brick or destroy your phone"
does superoneclick legitimately access root?
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I read that as meaning you should obtain the app from a legit source, NOT that you should get root access from a legit source. Considering the number of users that have used and suggest SuperOneClick, I'd say that's a fine/safe rooting process.

Namuna said:
I read that as meaning you should obtain the app from a legit source, NOT that you should get root access from a legit source. Considering the number of users that have used and suggest SuperOneClick, I'd say that's a fine/safe rooting process.
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ahh, gotcha. i read it that way now too, thanks.

rooted. thanks for the input everyone.

[Q] Iso image backup, is nandroid only option?

Hey guys I have two questions.
1. I would like to do a backup of my phone the same way I would do an image of my PC drive using an image software like Norton ghost or Acronis true image. Is this possible on android? I've been reading about Nandroid backup and I think this does what I want but the only way to do this with Nandroid is to root and install a new recovery correct? Am I not able to hook my phone up using the usb cable and use an app on the PC to clone the internal SD and create an image of it? I want to create an image of my phone with all its settings, contacts, txts, etc so i can have something to go back to if needed. I would like to do this before I root if possible.
2. On the Samsung Captivate section we have a wiki that has all the info you need to learn how to do certain things, mods, root, etc, etc. I found something similar for our Gnote2 here started by Mjwhirly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987541 but I could not find a section of removing bloatware. I saw the link that was created by mrRobinson and he mentions using De-Bloater app that will do it for you with oneclick but is there a list of all the safe to remove apps that I can go through so I can decided which apps I want to keep and which I want to remove?
thanks in advance

Yeah you got it right - a nandroid is what you want. I'm a big time user of ghost - it's the same thing and works great. Root and install the TWRP recovery. Then first of all make a nandroid of your old system. If you want to go back to it all you'll have to do is unroot, change the recovery back, and use triangle away to reset the flash counter and you'll be where you are now - bone stock. You can't make a nandroid image backup until you root and change the recovery though.
On the second question I'd just recommend you install a rom. I use Cleanrom. It is already debloated for you (though you have still some choices), as well as optimized in ways that will amaze you (does 2+ days on battery sound good?). If you look at the various roms available, you'll see more people are using Cleanrom than any other - that should tell you something! Jedi is also great. Many of the AOSP type roms seem to have some minor issues, but the devs are trying to do a much harder thing than just debloat and optimize a rom that was originally released for your device. Whichever one you decide to try, best thing to do is just read the whole rom thread in advance if you have time. You'll read all the dumb questions that others have already asked as well as learn all the ins and outs of the whole process. If you want to then try a different rom, make a nandroid and you can always come back to your previous working system. Hope this helps and have fun!

hey thanks a lot Dumbo53
I guess i'll just have to go ahead and root and do a nandroid backup. I have actually owned a captivate since it first came out which was my first android phone and i have never installed a custom rom. I always did everything manually like debloat and stuff. Security wise how safe are these roms, I see a lot of people just running around and flashing any rom that gets posted. What I'm trying to get at is do we know what's inside of these roms or do we just rely on the honor system and assume that they're safe, like can I trust these roms if I do my banking on them, which i am scared to do ever since I saw a message from the keyboard app on my captivate prompt about capturing my keystrokes or something, basically like a key logger, so I never did try to log onto any sites involving my banking or work email etc. but now that I have my note2 I want to be able to do all that stuff, like emails, banking, accessing my site for maintenance etc etc just for the instant access part of it instead of booting up my laptop or desktop... But I guess I can say the same thing about the stock rom too.

Your banking info is much more likely to be stolen off of a corporate website that got hacked. Whenever you use a credit card to buy something from a company or store, your number passes through some unknown employee's hands and gets stored in another database. Since millions of these numbers are stored together under sometimes weak security, these sites make much more tempting targets than your phone for thieves. The numbers are then sold off in blocks of thousands on the internet. Does that worry you enough to stop using a credit card?
However it is true that there could be a risk in installing a rom, or indeed any software on your phone. If it were discovered that a dev was putting malware in their mods or roms, I'm sure it would create quite a stir! I've never heard of this happening, though I have heard of shady stuff being done with mobile apps that you buy. All I can suggest you do is just read a lot more so that it is easier to distinguish between real threats and imaginary ones, and to learn how to protect yourself. In any case financial institutions have to protect their customers from a lot of these types of fraud, or they'd have trouble staying in business.
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Sounds good. I'm just getting the chance to root and install TWRP been super busy with work so I haven't had the chance to do it. Now installing a recovery does not wipe data right? also on a different note I use both the play store and amazon app store. I have purchased a bunch of apps from amazon and most of them worked but there are a few that say my phone is not compatible. Like the need for speed games and asphalt games will not install from amazon. I haven't tried the same apps from play store but maybe I should. Oh one big one is autodesks sketchbook pro. I don't even see that option on the play store when searching using my phone but its there when i search on the pc. I purchased sketchbook mobile and that works but i needed the features that pro has so i purchased that through amazon again thinking that it would work. I thought this phone was basically a tablet, shouldn't these tablet apps work on our phones?

Gnex slowing down for apprently no reason

Hi guys, I'm writing in desperate need of help.
I've had this GNex for a little less than 2 years and it always worked great until January when I started to have a lot of problems and bringing it to the technical center at the end of March I found out it had major hardware problems, but luckly I still had the warranty back then.
Now, since more or less 3 weeks, it started out of the blue to have great slowing down problems: apps take a lot to open and are often unresponsive and when I tap the power button it takes up to 5 seconds to start the screen.
I don't have a lor of apps, but uninstalling some of them it seemed like it's a little faster.
BTW, if it matters, I've never flashed alternative ROMs, I've always been on stock, and now it's not even rooted.
Is there something that I can do without factory resetting?
I'd prefer to keep it as the last possible option, 'cause I've not much time in this period and it would be a mess having to install again all the apps and stuff.
Thanks

I've heard that our GNEX makes problems with less than 3 GB of free space . Look how much memory are still available on SD card.
Sorry for my English.

Having almost 8gb free I doubt this is the problem

sciacallo010 said:
Having almost 8gb free I doubt this is the problem
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whats installed? have you updated/installed anything recently? do you have social media apps running all the time? have you cleared caches from apps/recovery? check your memory usage. use an app like Smart Booster to clean up the RAM.
there are also SO many advantages to at LEAST rooting the device.

dragonhart6505 said:
whats installed? have you updated/installed anything recently? do you have social media apps running all the time? have you cleared caches from apps/recovery? check your memory usage. use an app like Smart Booster to clean up the RAM.
there are also SO many advantages to at LEAST rooting the device.
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As soon as I'll have some time, hopefully this afternoon, I'll check all those things, thanks.
For the rooting thing I didn't do it just because I still haven't had time, I plan to do it in the future.
Talking about advantages are you talking in general or also about this specific issue?

sciacallo010 said:
As soon as I'll have some time, hopefully this afternoon, I'll check all those things, thanks.
For the rooting thing I didn't do it just because I still haven't had time, I plan to do it in the future.
Talking about advantages are you talking in general or also about this specific issue?
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well aside from the obvious (flashing/backups/unlocking) there are loads of useful apps in the Play Store that require root to help optimize the Android system. My favorites are Root Uninstaller and Disable Service. now, i know what im doing with these apps so they suit my needs pretty well and i havent broken anything (yet) but they are quite self explanitory. they both do pretty much the same thing, but on a different scale.
Root Uninstaller does just that...it allows you to uninstall ANYTHING from your device, including system apps that you normally wouldnt be able to. it also allows you to freeze apps or convert user apps (apps YOU installed) to system apps (this is very situational). it also reads your sdcard (internal in the case of the GNex) and finds apk's and can install them as well.
Disable Service is pretty much an advanced version of Root Uninstaller. it allows you to freeze/uninstall apps with the added ability to freeze any PROCESS that an app might run. for example, you could completely disable Bluetooth functionality (meaning any time you try to turn it on it just wont) or you can disable just Bluetooth file transfer. its really handy for showing what processes are running in the background and how many of them are from one app/how many that app can run. so, say you dont use an app feature but you still the app. fine, disable just that feature. its not TOO terribly complicated to understand as long as you know what does what, but hopefully i described it well enough.
basically what im getting at is these apps can free up so much memory/RAM by disabling/uninstalling apps or processes that run in the background when you just dont want them to with the ability to unlock them when you do.
then there is Titanium Backup. if you dont know what this app is, or never heard of it, you must live under some damn large rocks lol
lastly, using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit you can root your phone in quite literally 30 seconds...just sayin >_<

dragonhart6505 said:
lastly, using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit you can root your phone in quite literally 30 seconds...just sayin >_<
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Yeah, I well know that, before I had to bring it to the technical service it was rooted.
Thanks for the suggestions, while I know very well Titanium (it saved mt life more than once), I've never heard of the other apps you mentioned, so I'll try them.

I just runned Smart Booster and I'm totally amazed, the phone is way smoother, I hope it'll last.
I think that now I'll root time, I just have one last question: if I well remember to root I need to have the phone unlocked (the tech service locked it again), will it wipe it?

sciacallo010 said:
I just runned Smart Booster and I'm totally amazed, the phone is way smoother, I hope it'll last.
I think that now I'll root time, I just have one last question: if I well remember to root I need to have the phone unlocked (the tech service locked it again), will it wipe it?
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Glad it worked for ya ^_^
No it shouldn't wipe your phone, also unlocking the bootloader isn't required for root

Great, can you link me a guide to root it without unlocking? The nexus toolkit wants me to unlock before rooting, so I have to go for another way...

sciacallo010 said:
Great, can you link me a guide to root it without unlocking? The nexus toolkit wants me to unlock before rooting, so I have to go for another way...
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What Android version are you on?

4.3

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4.3
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Ah, OK. There ISNT a method of rooting without unlocking the bootloader on 4.3/4.4 and sadly it will reset the phone, but it will not wipe the SD data

Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful

sciacallo010 said:
Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
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Hey no problem!
I been fixing/flashing/porting this thing for about a year. I've got so many phones in my office (including S5/One M8/iphones) this still the one I pick up and play with as my DD. I can understand why you would want it to run at its top performance!

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Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on the phone. Use helium to backup apps and then backup everything to your computer.
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mrgnex said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on the phone. Use helium to backup apps and then backup everything to your computer.
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Yes unlocking bootloader to root has always been the only way for Nexus devices and it will definitely wipe everything!

Moving from rooted phone to Note 7, best workarounds?

Greetings everyone, I'm looking for some advice. For the past 6 years I've had only daily driver phones that were rooted and boot unlocked. On Friday that'll change when my Note 7 arrives, it was simply too compelling a phone to pass up. BUT, the two things I'm sure I'll miss are 1) full device (and individual app) backup using TWRP + Titanium Backup, and, 2) whole device ad blocking using AdAway. Are there any truly useful apps/solutions/workarounds to accomplish those things on a stock Samsung phone?

Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.

I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.

Samsung browser supports adblocking https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.crystalapp.crystal maybe there is some other apps to for just browser? If u want apps to block ads you will need a better app like AdClear that is free or even get the AdGuard pay for cheap:
AdGuard works without root on both WiFi and mobile data. It's not free but if you choose to pay in Russian rubles a lifetime license costs around 4$. Works like a charm and gets regularly updates. It blocks ad's everywhere and not just in the browser. Only ad's in the YouTube app are currently not blocked but they are working on a workaround. https://m.adguard.com/en/purchase.html?currencyId=1#1/36500/MOBILE
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Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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I was about to recommend adguard but I've never heard of adClear. It's actually much better. As for helium, I think it's pretty neat except it doesn't backup system app info.

best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.

Samzebian said:
best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.
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Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.

I bought the Note Edge a couple years back when the Note 4 came out.. coming from a T-Mobile rooted Note 3 it was rough because I bought a T-Mobile version and the guy sent me an AT&T unlocked off Ebay... so though it was on lock the TMobile the bootloader was locked and I could not root. I hated every minute with that phone so I only had it for 3 weeks. I ended up selling it taking $100 loss to read by an authentic T-Mobile version. Not until then was I happy. I just read that the LG G5 at T-Mobile is now locking their bootloaders! I wish Samsung would put some development time in and make an unlocker for those of us that want it if not I'm just going to return my phone take the $50 loss that comes with it for the restocking fee. Then by an international version which I've already seen can obtain root.
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This is really breaking my heart due to the fact that I was in an accident a few years back that left me almost paralyzed though I walk now I can barely walk no I work I can barely work I'm on full disability so to take away my one hop which is routing and playing with custom roms really really bums me out... especially since I've had every Samsung Galaxy Note ever made...plus the Tab S and Tab S2...
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We should ALL keep petitioning for TMOBILE to continue to help with an unlocking tool!
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Yeah I need an alternative to viper4android. I don't think I can go without root and will be getting the international version.
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Corbitt74 said:
Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.
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I'll try it too, thanks!

Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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Great recommendations, thank you! I recall having tried Helium on my HTC One M8 a couple of years ago before I'd rooted it. It didn't work too well for me back then, but perhaps It's gotten better, so I'll give it another look.

ARNOB said:
Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.
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Hmm, I hadn't considered ADB to computer backup. Wonder if that'll actually work.

I was in another room about locked Bootloaders on this phone... technically no it has a real answer but there's a bunch of little babies and their whining about how it's like get over it move on get over it blah blah blah. But the real fact is they don't have the phone they don't have the money for the phone they don't have the intelligence to root the phone
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I'm just going to wait for ups and move on get to work ...Xda is turning into YouTube with trollers
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My main apps without root.
1. Adguard (I've found it to be the best over the other VPN Ad Blockers) Block's everything.
2. Package Disabler Pro (blocks all bloatware apps from running)
3 For backups there are few that all do the same thing like many poster have said.

sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.

probablecauzdnb said:
sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.
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For me the reason is it trips knox for which you will lose samsung pay forever.

I have to admit, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think Samsung Pay is a killer feature. If you don't mind my asking, what country are you in, and why don't cards work for you?

It would also get rid of the Secure Folder feature since that is Knox dependent too.
Although I've only gotten the Note7 for a day, that Secure Folder has already become indispensable.
Even if I haven't stopped rooting for years, I believe I would still sacrifice root any day to keep that Secure Folder feature.
Not sure if there's a root alternative to the Secure Folder's features or if it'll one day be possible, but rooting exposes too much security risks anyway. If I was rooted, I wouldn't trust the Secure Folder as much as I would have while unrooted.

Secure Folder is a bit more understandable, though I have exactly the opposite reaction to you -- I consider an unrooted phone an incredible security risk, as I have absolutely no control over its internals, and I don't trust the Secure Folder because it appears to be insecure by design (allows biometric unlock). Losing the ability to restore older versions of apps, freeze preinstalled apps, modify the hosts file (for domain blocking), or run a firewall that can't be bypassed is kind of a dealbreaker to me.
I can at least understand people who feel otherwise, though. The Samsung Pay bit was what made me stop and ask, because it's the first time I've ever seen someone who actually thought it was valuable, and I was really curious about why.

Hey!
I've been using my note 3 since it's official release and i'm wondering if you guys have a workaround of Youtube Adaway for non rooted devices !

and To do root to a pixel is worth it??

and To do root to a pixel is worth it??

oraned said:
and To do root to a pixel is worth it??
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Depends if you think it is. For me, definitely yes! I like AdAway, TiBu, sound mods, and the ability to flash kernels and roms, or whatever may come down the pike. It's your call though

I've had over a dozen Android phones and all were rooted, usually within the first week because they were all missing something that I considered essential. When I got my P2XL, I kept it stock for a month because it was that good. This is the first Android phone that I could probably live with entirely stock. All of the others needed some sort of tweaking, but I can honestly say the P2XL is a fantastic device right out of the box. Android has come a long way, and most of the things that I changed with root have been incorporated into the OS.
If you rely on AdAway or Viper4Android, then you still need root for those. I had V4A on all of my previous phones, but I don't currently have it on my P2XL because the audio output is good enough for me (I had V4A a few weeks ago, but I wiped & flashed my phone and never reinstalled it). I have used AdAway in the past and it works great, but it sometimes blocks useful links and I am too lazy to revert to default hosts and reboot. I use Brave browser + AdGuard to kill ads, and they serve my needs very well (AdGuard uses a VPN that can be easily toggled when you want to login to bank/credit card account, etc).
I suggest using the Pixel 2 stock for a while, and see if you still need root. Rooting takes less than 5 minutes to do, but if you don't need it, then no need to mess with it.

I also choose to root for all the reasons mentioned. On the other hand, since the introduction of Android, this is the first device I could actually use without any mods and be satisfied. In fact, I'm currently using stock. The ability to choose is most important but it's definitely not necessary

@oraned: That depends. I assume you know what root is, but why do you need to root? If you can't answer that question, don't root.

I Root because of all of the above, and that's why I've been with XDA!

This is the first phone I have had no need to root. Very happy.

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I've had over a dozen Android phones and all were rooted, usually within the first week because they were all missing something that I considered essential. When I got my P2XL, I kept it stock for a month because it was that good. This is the first Android phone that I could probably live with entirely stock. All of the others needed some sort of tweaking, but I can honestly say the P2XL is a fantastic device right out of the box. Android has come a long way, and most of the things that I changed with root have been incorporated into the OS.
If you rely on AdAway or Viper4Android, then you still need root for those. I had V4A on all of my previous phones, but I don't currently have it on my P2XL because the audio output is good enough for me (I had V4A a few weeks ago, but I wiped & flashed my phone and never reinstalled it). I have used AdAway in the past and it works great, but it sometimes blocks useful links and I am too lazy to revert to default hosts and reboot. I use Brave browser + AdGuard to kill ads, and they serve my needs very well (AdGuard uses a VPN that can be easily toggled when you want to login to bank/credit card account, etc).
I suggest using the Pixel 2 stock for a while, and see if you still need root. Rooting takes less than 5 minutes to do, but if you don't need it, then no need to mess with it.
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and if i want to Hide Navigation i need root?

Like everyone else, I root because AdAway, Titanium Backup, Youtube black themed etc. I have tried devices without root and it never lasts long for me.. I always get the itch. Oh and there's wonderful kernels like ElementalX, Flash etc, which btw I am now using Flash kernel for the first time and it's been great.

This app is a real good reason to root.
I was planning on leaving my P2XL unrooted, but when this app was made available I changed my mind.

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and if i want to Hide Navigation i need root?
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Hide navigation? I am not sure what you mean.

I find pixel 2 xl to be a pain to root and update...
I root it, install custom firmware, and after every update, I had to flash vendor ,twrp and sometime magisk again, that alone is annoying enough.
I left it stock and unroot now, don't want to deal with the hassle anymore....
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oraned said:
and if i want to Hide Navigation i need root?
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No you don't. just activate global immersive mode using adb shell. (Search on xda)
After that I also install pie control.