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I am a noob to these forums and this seemed the best place to ask considering it is a Q&A forum. Considering the G2 is a stock android device how hard would it be to make a stock gingerbread ROM for it? Are any devs out there working on it? Is teamdouche working on CM v7 based on 2.3? I have been looking around for any inclination of this but have seen none whilst other devices get gingerbread ported over/compiled for them. Just want to know the status (or hopefully an ETA) on a Gingerbread ROM for the G2. If I posted this in the wrong place or this has been posted before my apologies.
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I don't know if it's out yet, mang... but I'm sure that once it is, it'll be a hot commodity. The modding community is absolutely amazing and I think they seriously need to be hired by some of the mobile companies out there. Their work is fantastic.
well nobody can make a rom or anything until the source code is released...and that hasnt happend yet. as soon as the nexus s comes out (which is this week) then the source code will be extracted from gingerbread and itll be able to be used. right now we just had a SDK file, and that really isnt used for anything but looks. mainly used for themes and such.
Then why does the EVO have a full working ROM for gingerbread? I believe the DESIRE and the HD2 also have it going.
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There isn't a working gingerbread ROM for the EVO, it's just FroYo with some parts ripped from 2.3. Gingerbread will be released in a couple of days along with the Nexus S, after which the AOSP will be ported to existing devices - but it'll still be a few days, if not weeks until something stable comes out.
I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
My apologies for my ignorance. I thought they were actual 2.3 builds considering the XDA posted list says "devices running gingerbread". So absolutly nothing can happen with gingerbread until a device with gingerbread (nexus S) comes out?
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Veiger said:
My apologies for my ignorance. I thought they were actual 2.3 builds considering the XDA posted list says "devices running gingerbread". So absolutly nothing can happen with gingerbread until a device with gingerbread (nexus S) comes out?
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Not a problem, you were just asking
All we have running Gingerbread right now is the android emulator, from which we can pull apk's and libs, but most of them need tweaking to get them to work on FroYo. Plus I don't know if the market works on Gingerbread.
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Is that an actual statement from teamdouche/cyanogen or just from studying release behavior in the past? When you say release you mean T-mo pushes it as an OTA correct, I know someone on here will "release" 2.3 long before T-mo stamps it for approval.
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Not a problem, you were just asking
All we have running Gingerbread right now is the android emulator, from which we can pull apk's and libs, but most of them need tweaking to get them to work on FroYo. Plus I don't know if the market works on Gingerbread.
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So at the moment there is no actual gingerbread (save for the reveiw models floating around phonedog,mobileburn,etc are unboxing) out just froyo with the modified characteristics of gingerbread? Pardon the question if it seems silly, most of the comment went over my head.
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I'll bet we have a ported ROM before New Years, usually a huge release like this gets all the attention of the devs. Especially since with perm-root, s-off and several stable 2.2 ROMs, the devs don't have all that much to work on atm.
Team Villain were working on one, but it became clear that there was going to be no way to make Audio work until AOSP is out so its on hold until then.
and without audio a phone is useless, no ringing, no sound in calls, no music etc etc
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Team Villain were working on one, but it became clear that there was going to be no way to make Audio work until AOSP is out so its on hold until then.
and without audio a phone is useless, no ringing, no sound in calls, no music etc etc
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Definatley looking forward to it when Villain gets their hands on the source code. I bet T-mo's is going to be ladened with the same bloatware that their 2.2 install on the G2 had.
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Well atleast we have the themes for now, that will hold me over for a couple weeks but not to impressed by the nexus s enough to shell out $520 I might just buy vibrant when functional gingerbread port is out allot cheaper and almost same phone well close anyway.
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Honestly I would wait if your shelling out any money for anything samsung just placed a MASSIVE order for tegra 2's today which hints at dualcore phones sometime in q1 or Q2 next year hopefully. Wait for the qualcomm dualcore and nvidia dualcore wars to begin.
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Anyone know roughly how long it takes google to drop the source in aosp after the sdk is released?
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Highly doubt that's true. I came from a CDMA Hero running CM6 RC1 (Froyo) and as most of us know, the lower end devices (such as the Hero), never got an official 2.2, yet there was a fully functional, highly stable CM6 out for it.
Which ran magnificently BTW.
Ah yeah, those seem to be more like proof of concept. Once a retail version of handsets start coming out with Gingerbread, as well as the source code, I imagine we'll start seeing custom ROMs based off it.
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Honestly I would wait if your shelling out any money for anything samsung just placed a MASSIVE order for tegra 2's today which hints at dualcore phones sometime in q1 or Q2 next year hopefully. Wait for the qualcomm dualcore and nvidia dualcore wars to begin.
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Thats all i needed to hear...samsung should'nt getanybody money with their softaware build qaulity and support
Gingerbread doesn't seem to be very promising though, what's with all this hype around it?? The update seems pretty piss poor to be honest. Nothing much.
You can read the full statement from HTC below.
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans
desire is NOT getting ICS update !
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desire is NOT getting ICS update !
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Well, no surprise there, since they had huge troubles updating it to 2.3
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You can read the full statement from HTC below.
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans
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Huh?
It will be great if Desire receives ICS but I doubt because of marketing reasons. The guys from HTC want to sell their new phones to old customers as well as new ones so the old Desire won't get an ICS update, as it didn't get an Gingerbread one (with new Sense).
Desire isn't a recent device anymore
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Yeah, but I think there's a bit of good will at stake too. Many people are on contract with months left and aren't willing to shell fora new device just yet.
If HTC nurture the customers that have had a good experience with the desire (I'm one of them) perhaps they won't be lured off to samsung, motorolla, lg, huwai, nokia etc come end of contract.
I reckon if they could do it with sense they would.
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Yeah, but I think there's a bit of good will at stake too. Many people are on contract with months left and aren't willing to shell fora new device just yet.
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Then you either spit moar dough when you buy it to get shorter contract, or you take a two year, and then don't whine every second about it. I won't even mention shelling two year contract in early 2011. and similar silly moves.
I think some of you are forgetting the Gingerbread update saga.
After several announcements and retractions from HTC only an unsupported developer build was released.
ICS will only ever be a custom build from the dev community.
Fingers crossed for CM9, hardware permitting
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Desire isn't a recent device anymore
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Desire was never a recent device in the first place.
If HTC could release ICS loaded with their sense experience, while leaving room in the rom for carrier apps they would. Perhaps it's naive of me, but there you have it.
Problem isn't the age, or the cpu, or even wanting to force you into a newer phone. It's the limited memory with which to drive a relatively high pixel count on the screen and a version of software that probably wasn't even dreamt of when the desire was getting her specs.
The development community will possibly be able to shoehorn ICS on, without sense, but htc is saying they don't have time to bother with that level of customisation for an older device. If it were simple they'd do it.
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If HTC could release ICS loaded with their sense experience, while leaving room in the rom for carrier apps they would. Perhaps it's naive of me, but there you have it.
Problem isn't the age, or the cpu, or even wanting to force you into a newer phone. It's the limited memory with which to drive a relatively high pixel count on the screen and a version of software that probably wasn't even dreamt of when the desire was getting her specs.
The development community will possibly be able to shoehorn ICS on, without sense, but htc is saying they don't have time to bother with that level of customisation for an older device. If it were simple they'd do it.
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So theoretically you are saying that phones such as Desire HD will get it as it is able to fit Sense and ICS in? Highly improbable.
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So theoretically you are saying that phones such as Desire HD will get it as it is able to fit Sense and ICS in? Highly improbable.
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Actually, the desire HD should run ics and sense really well, cuz sensation XL is just a overclocked desire HD
If im going to buy a new phone im getting Samsung anyway
Samsung do the same for galacxy S so....
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Actually, the desire HD should run ics and sense really well, cuz sensation XL is just a overclocked desire HD
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Yes it probably will. The problem remains on whether HTC will bother to update it. After all, its 15 months old.
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Desire will not get ICS update...
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Samsung do the same for galacxy S so....
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And Sony-Ericsson, and Motorola, and LG,...
Htc needs to learn something from the xda developers they look so inmature even android 2.3 was a big problem
HTC's making money out of selling phones. The End.
Not from supporting new shinny flagship os's for "Mezozoic" phones.
Look at Apple, they support almost all new os's for deprecated phones but with small feature set and performance penalty.
Is that what you want?
Rumours about android 5.0 are starting to spread and I'd thought to make a discussion topic about it here.
Google says android 5.0 is more optimized than Jellybean. Thus so it can also run well on devices with 512 ram.
We havent seen that kind of android since gingerbread.
Now we all know HTC left our One V hanging regarding Jellybean, of course there are Jellybean ROM developers but it would be nice if HTC hooked us up.
Even though HTC might not roll the update for Key Lime Pie out to our One V's, I am still very curious how this version of android would run on our devices.
Let me know what you think by commenting below,
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I thought 4.3 jb was gonna be announced. I'm positive though that HTC won't upgrade us at all. So custom Rom development is the only way we would get klp when google announces and finishes it.
The hero CDMA can run jb (after being dropped at eclair) so so I'm sure our phones will run 4.3 and 5 unofficially.
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I thought 4.3 jb was gonna be announced. I'm positive though that HTC won't upgrade us at all. So custom Rom development is the only way we would get klp when google announces and finishes it.
The hero CDMA can run jb (after being dropped at eclair) so so I'm sure our phones will run 4.3 and 5 unofficially.
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To be honest I'm not sure HTC would revisit old devices but like you said, there'll be unofficial ways. It's like I got my A3333 Wildfire running CM10.
As Android Kit Kat 4.4 is released, is some one building or plan to build custom ROM for HTC Desire (Bravo)?
Have searched everywhere but no luck as yet.
Look in the Dev Section , there is thread by nikez his 4.3 Android , in there u can see picture that nikez is working on K3 and on KitKat
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It's a shame there's no 4.4 for old devices... Google complains there's big fragmentation in Android versions but at the same time it does not even update system for their Nexus One phone which could easily handle A4...
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It's a shame there's no 4.4 for old devices... Google complains there's big fragmentation in Android versions but at the same time it does not even update system for their Nexus One phone which could easily handle A4...
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If the companies would make Android 4.0+ for old devices , few people would buy the new ones .. well maybe not few but less .. and if course , it cost them money to develop the Android 4.0+ on these devices .. All they want is money so .. no hope for official updates.
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Fragmentation comes from morons who try to completely rewrite the framework and are too lazy or slow to update it with the core android ie touchwiz...sounds like a dirty priests chat room name anyway.
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4.4 for htc desire (bravo)
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Look in the Dev Section , there is thread by nikez his 4.3 Android , in there u can see picture that nikez is working on K3 and on KitKat
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Does anyone have a link to where I could download the rom?
Thanks
You can always find the latest nightly here.
Just have a look at this section. There are several 4.4 ROM's. I'm using the Evervolv Rom with the nightly from 17.12.2013 and it works like a charm. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766550)
http://www.technostall.com/xperia-s-android-442-kitkat-update/
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http://www.technostall.com/xperia-s-android-442-kitkat-update/
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no it's not true, when you download the file it is pure_aosp_alpha
They say sony will realease official update
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I don't think that they are gonna update the Xperia S anymore. It's a shame as it's a good device, I hope they don't do the same and abandon my Z1 after 18 months like they did with this device. Hopefully tho they might update this but it's very unlikely
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See the title 1st...
They said custom rom.
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adam20115 said:
I don't think that they are gonna update the Xperia S anymore. It's a shame as it's a good device, I hope they don't do the same and abandon my Z1 after 18 months like they did with this device. Hopefully tho they might update this but it's very unlikely
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Abandon? You expecting lifetime of updates? They didn't abandon Xperia S. The current firmware is fine.
lee480 said:
Abandon? You expecting lifetime of updates? They didn't abandon Xperia S. The current firmware is fine.
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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I dont mean abandon, i mean like they should try to update it for as long as possible as its still a good device, thats all i mean
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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I m using pure Aosp 4.4 right now.
And I m happy with it.
But see every nexus has offical cm support.they are also working on 4.4.
And here only billchane and rehman FX are working.thanks to them we have 4.4 build.suppose we don't have more support from them.than what we gonna do.then I will sell my sl..and surely buy nexus 5 or htc m7
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I m using pure Aosp 4.4 right now.
And I m happy with it.
But see every nexus has offical cm support.they are also working on 4.4.
And here only billchane and rehman FX are working.thanks to them we have 4.4 build.suppose we don't have more support from them.than what we gonna do.then I will sell my sl..and surely buy nexus 5 or htc m7
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Best not buy a HTC, support isn't great there either. The One X(L) isn't going beyond Android 4.2. If this is important to you, there's only q Nexus, a Google Play Edition phone or maybe a Motorola Moto X but we still have to see how long Motorola is going to support phones now they're part of Google.
And indeed we wouldn't be much without Rayman or bilchen. But it's like this for the vast majority of Android devices.
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I tried several KK-based roms for xperia S, but all gave me random reboots
had some on 4.3, but with 4.4 I have too many to be stable as dayly driver.
i guess they all use the same kernel (open semc), that could explain why the all have it?
but... why do some people claim to have no reboots, and others have em 'all the time'?
i'm now on nature rom (4.1) and no problems at all, it's a great rom, but i really like 4.4 as well.
will there be a stable kernel/version soon?
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I tried several KK-based roms for xperia S, but all gave me random reboots
had some on 4.3, but with 4.4 I have too many to be stable as dayly driver.
i guess they all use the same kernel (open semc), that could explain why the all have it?
but... why do some people claim to have no reboots, and others have em 'all the time'?
i'm now on nature rom (4.1) and no problems at all, it's a great rom, but i really like 4.4 as well.
will there be a stable kernel/version soon?
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Try Pure AOSP Kitkat rom! It's different build and I have no such problem with that
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but has same kernel?
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That 1 has aops kernal.its own
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
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First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
S has 2 updates ics,jb.and what about sl.sl was preloaded with ics.it has only jb update.
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First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
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You're absolutely correct that Galaxy Nexus lack of KitKat is due to Texas Instruments. Similar, Xperia S ain't getting 4.2 and above due to Qualcomm, not Sony.
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You're absolutely correct that Galaxy Nexus lack of KitKat is due to Texas Instruments. Similar, Xperia S ain't getting 4.2 and above due to Qualcomm, not Sony.
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Ok then my mistake, but how would you then explain the galaxy s2 getting updates with a snapdragon s2?
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