Develop Bugs

Swap Power and End buttons

On the latest CAB I downloaded the End button locks the screen and the power button minimizes all the programs. Is there any way to make the Power button lock the screen and the end button minimize all the programs, like it is in Win Mo? I got a T mobile TP2

The problem is that you would end calls with the lock button as well.

I see. There isn't some way they could code around this? That's weird that it's like that.

This note is from the WIKI.
Note: It's until now impossible to split 'End Call' and 'Power' function in the code, so this last function can't be linked to Power button without it being 'End Call' too. Thus for the ease of ending a call, this function is placed on the normal EndCall-button and Power button is 'Home'.

honestly I would find it easier to end calls with the power button anyway. So this seems like a perfectly good compromise to me.

I agree. I'd rather have the power button turn the backlight off than the end button. That's the most important. They should make an option or something where people can choose their preference.

i was coming to look for this. i dont mind having to end calls with the power button right now. ill be using standby and home more so id rather those be more natural.

j.action said:
honestly I would find it easier to end calls with the power button anyway. So this seems like a perfectly good compromise to me.
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WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
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Reefermattness said:
WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
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for you. obviously we want it though. i would like the end call button to be on the end call button but i want sleep on the top and home key down below more.
having it end call when youre on a call and a home key button the rest of the time would be more ideal. i kinda wish this was the hd2 because the buttons on that would be make sense in android.

Reefermattness said:
WHAAA???
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Can't stop the revolution!
Back in WinMo whenever I end a call I hit the big red button on the screen, then hit the power button to put it to sleep so I can put it in my pocket. Needless to say, being able to just double-tap the power button to accomplish the same thing would be great. The front buttons on the TP2 are so dainty it's annoying to press them honestly.
It's such a trivial thing, but I guess everyone's got their own reasons for wanting it. It would be nice to know how to swap the button assignments for myself even if it's not baked into the Rhodium builds directly.

I hit the 'power button' to turn off the screen more often than I hit the end button to 'end calls'. I rarely call. I'm a texter. Power button doing what it should > end button doing what it should.

andershizzle said:
I hit the 'power button' to turn off the screen more often than I hit the end button to 'end calls'. I rarely call. I'm a texter. Power button doing what it should > end button doing what it should.
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thats my thoughts exactly. i think even people who make calls turn the phone on and off using the power button more than the end key. i understand how one would like it the way it is, which is why a solution to change it for us would be nice.

I agree
j.action said:
Can't stop the revolution!
Back in WinMo whenever I end a call I hit the big red button on the screen, then hit the power button to put it to sleep so I can put it in my pocket. Needless to say, being able to just double-tap the power button to accomplish the same thing would be great. The front buttons on the TP2 are so dainty it's annoying to press them honestly.
It's such a trivial thing, but I guess everyone's got their own reasons for wanting it. It would be nice to know how to swap the button assignments for myself even if it's not baked into the Rhodium builds directly.
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I agree with you, whenever I try to press the EndCall button, I always fear of dropping the phone from my hand, Or if you hold the phone in your palm; you have twist your thumb all the way down, seems awkward.

I have a question ... wouldn't it be possible to reassign certain actions and not the default button functions to the hardware keys ?
On windows mobile, this seems to be possible with the rhodium keyboard controller ... it uses a modified driver to achieve that iirc ...
If someone could do that for android, we could assign "turn display off" to the power button, "home + end call" to the end key and so on ... or am I wrong ?

Sorry to double post/bump my question ...
But wouldn't it really be possible to just create a driver that is able to assign certain actions to the buttons instead of static button actions?
Or is this impossible under Android?

I would like to know about this me too...
i use the on screen button to end my calls and using the end key to turn backlight off its unnatural for me...
also it will be cool to have the screens template on end key button...

I actually agree with the idea of the power button ending a call - I hold my phone with my index finger on the top ( a habit I developed after having someone yank a phone away from me), so the power button would be very natural for hanging up as I remove the phone from my ear.
An option, or even info on the files to edit, would be awesome. Could it be as simple as a simple .conf file in the filesystem?

Reefermattness said:
WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
LOL
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um... it has been (semi) standard on 'dumb phones' for years that the end call button is also the power button.
that being said, i think the best idea is to have some kind of option so people can choose what they prefer. i think you can get used to either way, but it can be really frustrating if you go back and forth between winmo and android to have them be different.

millmanorama said:
um... it has been (semi) standard on 'dumb phones' for years that the end call button is also the power button.
that being said, i think the best idea is to have some kind of option so people can choose what they prefer. i think you can get used to either way, but it can be really frustrating if you go back and forth between winmo and android to have them be different.
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Yes, on "dumb" phones, and android handsets the power button and the end call button are linked to the same button. The difference is, THESE BUTTONS ARE NOT ON THE TOP OF THE HANDSET. They are on the face of the phone, NEXT TO THE CALL BUTTON.
Like i have said before, switching the end call button to the power button on the Rhodium would be chaos. For the mass majority of users, making the end call button NOT end the call, is ridiculous, and confusing. If you were to go out, and buy an Android handset, you would not even have a power button other than the end call button.
Yes, the only way everyone will be happy, is if you can choose how you want the buttons mapped.

i was thinking not all android devices link the end call and standby buttons together, the nexus one and desire and legend all have them on the top. then when i looked up pictures, they had gotten rid of the send and end call buttons so of course they moved the stand by to the top. i wonder if you press that during a call, would it hand up.

wake screen using any of four touch buttons?

for a big phone isnt it a pain to have to press the top button to wake the damn screen? same thing happened to the nexus one ( has hack that wakes with trackball ) , incredible as well.

I would love this as well...hate hiting the power button...

Yea if someone makes an app that does this they should make the home button unlock it too

Yes, please that would be great. I hate having to use the power button to unlock.

Yea it would be nice if you could hit the home and search button at the same time to turn the screen on

Get the "No lock" app from market. Put the widget on your screen, choose unlocked. Now your phone will wake with the volume rocker. I keep the widget so I can lock it again when working (walking around all day).

yeah but I want to either tap the screen or a capacitive button to wake the phone. The mechanical buttons just feel like junk to me. I would like ot never even have to touch one of the mechanical buttons...

I'm with most of you, coming from my iPhone and having my Evo sit on my desk, I like pressed down on the face, so my phone doesnt move. Power buttons too hard to just tap.

Unfortunately, in order to wake the phone with a soft-key, the capacitive screen would have to be active, which means your phone would already be awake, thereby defeating the purpose of programming such a thing. Paradoxical.
Think along the same lines as a TV that you change the channel in order to turn it on... it'd have to already be on to change the channel in the first place.

Makes sense, I was just hopping for button on the front. I'll just need to adjust.

i wudnt mind having one of my vol buttons as a "wake" button... n then wen the screen comes back on it goes back to its default use as a volume key. this power button kills my shiznet >=|

I think I could get used to having to use the power button, altho I'm gonna side with most of you, being able to wake it from the volume rocker just seems more natural. Maybe once I switch cases the power button will be easier to press...
The power button hump on this silicon skin from Sprint isn't prominent enough, it actually makes it slightly harder to press imo. The hump doesn't protrude out very much and it's right on a mold or manufacturing edge on the skin which doesn't make it any easier to find.
Hoping the Amzer Luxe skin I ordered is better in this regard...

There is a app called menu unlock from team douche. It's available on the market [donate] or on xda for free. You'll need root for it but what it does is get rid of the swipe to unlock the screen. You'll still need to wake with the power button though. I'm trying to see if we can learn from the trackball wake on the nexus to port it to use the volume down button. With this the combo is press volume down then press the menu key and your going vs. swiping or the power button.

"No Lock" app in the market removes the lockscreen and wakes the phone with the volume keys. It was already mentioned in this thread but everyone seems to have ignored it.

dazabale said:
"No Lock" app in the market removes the lockscreen and wakes the phone with the volume keys. It was already mentioned in this thread but everyone seems to have ignored it.
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lol, seriously.

[Request] buttons lock

if your ever playing any games and you accidently hit home or any other button then you know what im talking about. since the buttons are touch sensitive you may get some accidental clicks. i wish there was a way you could lock the bottom row of buttons, not sure if its possible though. maybe by combining two of the physical buttons (such as volume up and down) we could lock the bottom row until we need to use those keys again and then we could unlock in a similar fashion. is there anyway possible someone could develop this?

+1 for this. I like the idea of it being toggled with volume buttons, or maybe long pressing the power button and adding it to that menu. It would have to be included in a rom though, you cant give that power to just any app. or you'll never be able to close it without rebooting.

every time i watch a video a hit the search button by mistake. i really wish someone would do this. also it would be better if you hold volume up and power buttons.

Ya I actually just had it happen again with gvba. Note: it really sucks if you accidently hit the back button. Lock please!
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Volume wake?!

Greetings:
is "Volume Wake" possible on G Note 2?
if it is, can someone explain how?
Thank you.

You have home button and power button to turn the phone on. Does volume wake still necessary??

mutantblack said:
You have home button and power button to turn the phone on. Does volume wake still necessary??
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I actually like being able to wake the phone with volume buttons as well.

I tend to keep my phones for a long while! so I look ahead and plus both
Power & Home buttons are pretty over used, I guess it won't hurt if there is another option, IMHO.

A70 Screen Shot Info

I've got myself a Samsung A70. and after researching for ages how to do a screen shot or what ever the new name for it is.
I find out how to do this, you have to hold the power button then press the volume button, which then turns the volume up, 2nd attempt turns the volume down, 3rd attempt you try move your hands differently and you get a screen shot, of a different page you accidentally clicked on whilst trying to screen shot, then next attempt, I think I've got it, NO I don't want to turn the phone off, grrr. But eventually when you do get a screen shot, it has the volume change across the top.
Does anyone know how to alter the screen shot to the normal power button, the the central button on the bottom?

JamieSD22 said:
I've got myself a Samsung A70. and after researching for ages how to do a screen shot or what ever the new name for it is.
I find out how to do this, you have to hold the power button then press the volume button, which then turns the volume up, 2nd attempt turns the volume down, 3rd attempt you try move your hands differently and you get a screen shot, of a different page you accidentally clicked on whilst trying to screen shot, then next attempt, I think I've got it, NO I don't want to turn the phone off, grrr. But eventually when you do get a screen shot, it has the volume change across the top.
Does anyone know how to alter the screen shot to the normal power button, the the central button on the bottom?
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Mine doesn't work that way:
I press and hold the power button (no more than a 1 /2 second - you don't want the phone to display the power/restart options) then almost immediately press the VOLUME DOWN key for a 1/2 of a second at most (still holding the power button) and release the volume DOWN button - screenshot should be taken (screen shrinks/comes back). Release all buttons now of course.
Hope it works, let all know if it does.
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JamieSD22 said:
I've got myself a Samsung A70. and after researching for ages how to do a screen shot or what ever the new name for it is.
I find out how to do this, you have to hold the power button then press the volume button, which then turns the volume up, 2nd attempt turns the volume down, 3rd attempt you try move your hands differently and you get a screen shot, of a different page you accidentally clicked on whilst trying to screen shot, then next attempt, I think I've got it, NO I don't want to turn the phone off, grrr. But eventually when you do get a screen shot, it has the volume change across the top.
Does anyone know how to alter the screen shot to the normal power button, the the central button on the bottom?
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You put your whole thumb on the power button and the vol down button and you click both of them at the same time.

Easier to click the buttons than swipe your hand across the screen.

gaplayer26 said:
Mine doesn't work that way:
I press and hold the power button (no more than a 1 /2 second - you don't want the phone to display the power/restart options) then almost immediately press the VOLUME DOWN key for a 1/2 of a second at most (still holding the power button) and release the volume DOWN button - screenshot should be taken (screen shrinks/comes back). Release all buttons now of course.
Hope it works, let all know if it does.
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Yep that's practically how every Samsung device works, infact every device I've owned, so it seems the issue is simply pilot error.
You can even do the same thing in TWRP.

What is TWRP.
I've had loads of other Samsung's phones been the power button and the main enter button on the bottom.
I've tried doing one first then the other and I get the power turn off option.
But them both with my thumb seems to work most of the time, cheers for that. I think the phone case I have causes me some problems, but both with my thumb seems to work for the last few mins that I've tried thanks.

ashyx said:
Yep that's practically how every Samsung device works, infact every device I've owned, so it seems the issue is simply pilot error.
You can even do the same thing in TWRP.
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You could always turn to the dark side and say "Hey Google, take a screenshot" LOL

Just press and hold both at the same time. If you are finding that awkward using your right thumb then use your index and middle finger on your left hand.