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[XS] Xperia S General Discussion Thread

Ok, please post any reviews, hands-on or general Xperia S information and questions here.
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Firstly, I'll start with saying you can download the white-paper here: http://blog.clove.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Xperia_S_LT26i_Whitepaper.pdf
Processor 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual Core
GPU Adreno 220
Size 128 x 64 x 10.6 mm
Weight 144 grams
Available colours Black / White
Main screen
Colours 16,777,216 colour TFT
Resolution 1280x720 pixels
Size (diagonal) 4.3 inches
Scratch-resistant Shatter proof sheet on scratch-resistant glass
Memory
Internal phone storage 1 to 1.5 GB
RAM 1 GB
Flash memory 32 GB eMMC
Camera
Camera resolution 12 MP
Digital zoom 16x
Photo flash No
Video recording Yes – HD 1080p
Video chat camera Yes
Front Camera Yes – HD 720p for video chat and 1.3 MP for camera capture
General questions:
Unlockable Bootloader?
Apparently yes!
Is the clear band at the bottom going to be used for notifications?
Apparently it is, but it's unable to do colour at present (although we've seen blue and white in the videos). We don't know if this is a hardware limitation, or a software limitation. If it's a software limitation then it will likely be modded at some point!
What's this about the battery?
Well for one it is indeed not removable
Removing the battery is pretty trivial as demonstrated in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lHsfARv_0Y&feature=player_embedded
On the good side though it is supposed to have a new 'fast charge' technology that charges the phone rapidly to 80% and then basically tricle charges it from that point, so if you need a quick boost you're in luck
Micro SIM?
I'm afraid so
Here's how to cut down a standard size sim to a micro sim though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb1WvUoEbzI&feature=related
You can also pick up some pretty cheap devices (which look a bit like a hole-punch / stapler) from ebay that will cut it for you, if scissors scare you for some reason.
Micro SD card?
Nope
Release date?
March 5th is most likely
What's so awesome about it?
Looks great, and different from the other phones out there
Has an amazing screen (highest pixel density out there at the moment?)
Is a good size for one-handed operation without becoming tablet-sized
Awesome camera, with its own dedicated button, and can go from in your pocket to taking a snap in around 1.5s (I believe this is the fastest out there?)http://community.phones4u.co.uk/p4u-smartphone-shootout-mobile-cameras-go-head-to-head/
NFC?
Yes - and uses smart-tags so you can automatically setup a profile for home, work etc just by tapping your phone against a tag.
Does it have FM radio?
Yes! It has FM radio with RDS
What about this anti-stain shell I have head about?
Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDrJplSYIw8&feature=player_embedded
Reviews
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-s
What about new apps?
All new Xperia phones will have realVNC: http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/02/2...ss-to-be-included-in-2012-xperia-smartphones/
Free 50GB with Box Net: http://androidcommunity.com/sony-xperia-owners-get-50gb-of-free-box-net-storage-20111129/
Hands on videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064xbChx-Yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRWqBywlHlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSFtzDKPiGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSFtzDKPiGQ (this one shows the clear strip glowing blue at the beginning of the video too!)
Video quality tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yoWrP0vDmU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRf8lGvrIb0

Good thread, eager to see some more reviews.

Audioboxer said:
Good thread, eager to see some more reviews.
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Thanks. A couple things I'll add to the first post as well:
What about new apps?
All new Xperia phones will have realVNC: http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/02/2...ss-to-be-included-in-2012-xperia-smartphones/
Free 50GB with Box Net: http://androidcommunity.com/sony-xperia-owners-get-50gb-of-free-box-net-storage-20111129/
Hands on videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064xbChx-Yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRWqBywlHlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSFtzDKPiGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ssmm7wBTc (this one shows the clear strip glowing blue at the beginning of the video too! I had posted the wrong link here previously!)
Video quality tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yoWrP0vDmU

is the information correct ?? unlocked bootloader by default????

fajarep said:
is the information correct ?? unlocked bootloader by default????
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It's not unlocked by default, it is unlockable by default. Someone owning an Xperia S did the test to see if it was unlockable - which is this: *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
You can see more here: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/

Yardglass said:
It's not unlocked by default, it is unlockable by default. Someone owning an Xperia S did the test to see if it was unlockable - which is this):*#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
You can see more here: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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Great news

Audioboxer said:
Great news
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Yea, hopefully it helps get some devs on board. Sony really seem to be doing all they can for the dev community at the moment.

I think Sony has learnt from the X10 and have started to be a bit more open towards the developer community; they tried to keep the X10 locked out and in the end watched the guys on here push that phone quicker and further than they could themselves (even without the bootloader unlocked)! If it was still Sony Ericsson I probably wouldnt get the Xperia S... but it isn't; so I am!

Yardglass said:
Yea, hopefully it helps get some devs on board. Sony really seem to be doing all they can for the dev community at the moment.
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Would really like to see that, the only thing I'm worried about coming off a Desire, and swapping a Galaxy Nexus for this phone - They both had/have unreal dev support.

If Sony continues like they've pledged with their entire Xperia line, then it's likely we'll not only see Gingerbread, ICS, but also Jelly Bean by the end of the year.

How readable does anyone think Kindle will be on this phone? I have a Kindle myself, but the phone is ever so more portable in some situations.

why is micro sim a problem? its the new standard.. why have extra space for plastic. The non removable battery would be a moot point if they made docks for the phone.. but I assume its impossible to make nice ones with hdmi and usb on opposite side of the phone and covered by those plastic flaps.

miann said:
why is micro sim a problem? its the new standard.. why have extra space for plastic. The non removable battery would be a moot point if they made docks for the phone.. but I assume its impossible to make nice ones with hdmi and usb on opposite side of the phone and covered by those plastic flaps.
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It's not much of a problem, it just means two cuts to a standard sim. A minor inconvenience at most.
With regards to kindle on the phone, I'm sure you'll be fine. I use Aldiko to read all my books on the Arc S at the moment with no problems at all.
I'm excited that Sony are releasing the alpha and beta versions of their releases too. Another good sign for the devs!

Just wondering is there anything in that bit under the transparent light strip?
Or is it just some extra bit of plastic there to waste space?

zoobzone said:
Just wondering is there anything in that bit under the transparent light strip?
Or is it just some extra bit of plastic there to waste space?
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I believe that's where the antenna is (from the translucent strip down)

I believe that the microphone is also located in the lower piece.
This means Sony would have had to find a way to run very thin/fine wires through the translucent bar. If thats the case pretty cool.
If your suggestion is correct that its purely decorative it would be a design feature with no function which indeed would be lame.

This a screenshot from Xperia U promo, where you can see lower bit removed. I know, it is U, but possibly same thing is on S as well. But I think you can see that definitely there is something there. I also hope, putting antenna there will increase signal reception.

The antenna is for sure in the lower part. You can see it on some close up pictures as thin wires within the clear strip...
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For anyone who has a hard time remembering, *#*#7378423#*#* spells out *#*#SERVICE#*#*. Much easier, no?
Sony has pledged to provide major Android version updates for at least 1.5y after release, so we will definitely be seeing whatever comes after ICS.

Ambroos said:
For anyone who has a hard time remembering, *#*#7378423#*#* spells out *#*#SERVICE#*#*. Much easier, no?
Sony has pledged to provide major Android version updates for at least 1.5y after release, so we will definitely be seeing whatever comes after ICS.
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Thanks, I had no idea!

[Q] Newb-ish questions

Hello! I should buy the One X in a few days. There are some things stopping me from buying it though.
1): The battery is 1800MAh,and that lets me think battery life is not so good. Can you guys confirm? Also,the One X battery is Li-Po,so my question now is:
Li-Po 1800MAh > Li-Ion 2100MAh (Galaxy S3 battery)?
2) Battery is not removable. So how will I turn off the phone,for example when it will be stuck in a bootloop?
3) No menu button! Can multitasking be remapped to menu button in Stock or Custom ROMs?
4) Display: Is Super IPS LCD better than SAMOLED (Galaxy S3)?
Thank you in advance,this device is really interesting

Bytecode said:
Hello! I should buy the One X in a few days. There are some things stopping me from buying it though.
1): The battery is 1800MAh,and that lets me think battery life is not so good. Can you guys confirm? Also,the One X battery is Li-Po,so my question now is:
Li-Po 1800MAh > Li-Ion 2100MAh (Galaxy S3 battery)?
2) Battery is not removable. So how will I turn off the phone,for example when it will be stuck in a bootloop?
3) No menu button! Can multitasking be remapped to menu button in Stock or Custom ROMs?
4) Display: Is Super IPS LCD better than SAMOLED (Galaxy S3)?
Thank you in advance,this device is really interesting
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Battery life has been great for me but it varies powering down is fine on the 2.0. 5 base you can remap the menu button and I much prefer the one X screen
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

1. Non-issue - it's fine
2. Press and hold the power button for 10 seconds - it reboots the phone
3. Non-issue - although it's been changed in the new ROM getting released soon (or go custom to get the leaked version)
4. Very much so - my Dad's S3 is crap compared to my One X screen-wise

EddyOS said:
1. Non-issue - it's fine
2. Press and hold the power button for 10 seconds - it reboots the phone
3. Non-issue - although it's been changed in the new ROM getting released soon (or go custom to get the leaked version)
4. Very much so - my Dad's S3 is crap compared to my One X screen-wise
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Thanks! But:
1) I know it's a silly question,but can you guys tell me how much battery lasts?
3) Can I remap the multitasking button to menu button into Custom ROMs,or I don't need to?
Also,browser lags on Stock ROM,are these lags gone on custom ROMs?
Thanks again

Bytecode said:
Thanks! But:
1) I know it's a silly question,but can you guys tell me how much battery lasts?
3) Can I remap the multitasking button to menu button into Custom ROMs,or I don't need to?
Also,browser lags on Stock ROM,are these lags gone on custom ROMs?
Thanks again
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i can go a day or two without putting the phone on charge and over the last two charge cycles i got about 4hrs screen on time.
yes you can remap the multitasking button on a custom rom..PKMN rom has that feature as far as i know.
browser i do not use stock browser i use chrome or maxthon and no lags what so ever

Ok.. getting more convinced about this device right now. I should buy it tomorrow.
I heard that camera has got a low framerate. I can tell just by looking at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJZZlQ8xkw
Is this lag fixed into custom ROMs,for example ARHD 7.1.0 or CyanogenMod 9/AOKP? This would be very annoying to me

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Bytecode said:
Ok.. getting more convinced about this device right now. I should buy it tomorrow.
I heard that camera has got a low framerate. I can tell just by looking at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJZZlQ8xkw
Is this lag fixed into custom ROMs,for example ARHD 7.1.0 or CyanogenMod 9/AOKP? This would be very annoying to me
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238
looks like its all sorted
EDIT: wtf i thought this was the one x bit. dammit lol sorry.

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Bytecode said:
Hello! I should buy the One X in a few days. There are some things stopping me from buying it though.
1): The battery is 1800MAh,and that lets me think battery life is not so good. Can you guys confirm? Also,the One X battery is Li-Po,so my question now is:
Li-Po 1800MAh > Li-Ion 2100MAh (Galaxy S3 battery)?
2) Battery is not removable. So how will I turn off the phone,for example when it will be stuck in a bootloop?
3) No menu button! Can multitasking be remapped to menu button in Stock or Custom ROMs?
4) Display: Is Super IPS LCD better than SAMOLED (Galaxy S3)?
Thank you in advance,this device is really interesting
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(battery) Here you go...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Bytecode said:
1): The battery is 1800MAh,and that lets me think battery life is not so good. Can you guys confirm? Also,the One X battery is Li-Po,so my question now is:
Li-Po 1800MAh > Li-Ion 2100MAh (Galaxy S3 battery)?
2) Battery is not removable. So how will I turn off the phone,for example when it will be stuck in a bootloop?
3) No menu button! Can multitasking be remapped to menu button in Stock or Custom ROMs?
4) Display: Is Super IPS LCD better than SAMOLED (Galaxy S3)?
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Can you guys confirm? Also,the One X battery is Li-Po,so my question now is:
Li-Po 1800MAh > Li-Ion 2100MAh (Galaxy S3 battery)?
Li-Po and Li-Ion having almost same attributes, Li-Po was little stable while discharging and can be reshape after manufactured. That is why it is often to be used on un-swappable battery solutions, vice versa.
3) I found out I'm used it more and more frequent now.
4) Display: yes, I love new technology like AMOLED but it isn't that mature as LCD. Screen on GS3 is exactly enlarge version of itself on G Nexus, and you will spot the diffefences in 1 second.

Thanks for the replies everyone
Keep in mind,I'll have to keep this device for two years minimum,so I wanna make sure all technologies used in this phone are "up-to-date".
I think Galaxy S3's Exynos Quad is better. It has got a 32nm constitution while the Tegra 3 has got a 40nm one.
Tegra 3 has got a Variable Symmetrical Multi-Processing (vSMP)where all cores run at a same speed; Exynos has got a aSMP (Asymmetrical Multi-Processing) where the four cores can run at a variable speed according to how much work they have to do.
The companion core of the Tegra 3 is obviously power-saving,but it has only got a 500MHz frequency,so it is not kinda enough,I don't know.
Also check this. As I said I will keep this phone for a really long time,and when Tegra 4 games will be out will Tegra 3 be able to run them? Also,a lot of things have to get optimized for Tegra 3(see kernel 3.0),but everything can run as it is on Exynos.
Just exposing my ideas,I'm not here to say the One X is worse,so no "don't like the device? gtfo" please,I need to decide which to pick.
Also,can anyone give me a video sample of recording on CM9 or ARHD please

Anyone?

Since the body/looks of the device don't concern you, its down to two things I think:
1)Tegra Games: If Tegra 3 powered games are really important then definitely go for the the HOX no questions asked. And like you said yourself, when tegra4 comes out there might be games that require a tegra4 processor. But there is no solid news on when tegra4 comes out so tegra3 is the best deal when it comes to mobile gaming as of now.
2)Processor:I won't say whats better, have a look at the benchmark comparison that gsmarena.com has done http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p4.php
The companion core from what I can figure is what gives the Int. HOX awesome standby battery times.

Let me explain something this phone costs a lot,so I need to keep it for at least two years. Since I have to keep it for a lot,I need a durable processor. I think next tegra will be available in just some months,while next Exynos will be available much more later,I don't know maybe it's just me. I just need a processor I can keep and use for 2 years.
For example the LG Optimus Dual (Tegra 2) was released just a year ago,and I am not sure it can play smoothly new games now.
Just my two cents,don't be mad at me I just wanna know what you think about my thoughts.
On a different note,anyone can give me a video sample of this device on CM9/AOKP?

Bytecode said:
Let me explain something this phone costs a lot,so I need to keep it for at least two years. Since I have to keep it for a lot,I need a durable processor. I think next tegra will be available in just some months,while next Exynos will be available much more later,I don't know maybe it's just me. I just need a processor I can keep and use for 2 years.
For example the LG Optimus Dual (Tegra 2) was released just a year ago,and I am not sure it can play smoothly new games now.
Just my two cents,don't be mad at me I just wanna know what you think about my thoughts.
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to be honest, i think that it's the same with all tech these days, tegra or not.
things get outdated incredibly quickly now, and theyre constantly innovating and creating new features, faster speeds etc.
the tegra 3 will be around for quite some time i think, probably about a year, and by that time, there will be loads of tegra 3 optimized games, and any new tegra 4 ones may well have compatibility for tegra 3 as well (just with lower graphics settings than the t4 - dead trigger is a good example)
Its the sort of climate these days, where if you choose to wait for a device to become cheaper for example, by the time its cheaper theres loads out thats way better anyways and by then of course all the software is designed with the new hardware in mind. you'll never stop waiting! im not doing well at explaining myself but hopefully you get the point.. anyways i think the tegra stuff is much better, as nvidia is pushing for app optimization for tegras, and these will therefore have better graphics, better performance, than the exynos might have with a game/app that isn't optimized.

Elephone P3000S 3Gb/16Gb 5" FHD MT6752 Octa Core 3150mAh

Elephone P3000S 5.0 inch 4G, 4.4.4 KitKat Octa-Core MT6752 1.7GHz, 3GB/16GB ROM + NFC & Fingerprint
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GPU: ARM MALI-T760
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB
Display: 5.0" , 1920*1080 pixels
Battery: 3150 mAh
OS: Android OS, 4.4.4 (Lollipop Upgradable)
Camera: Rear-13MP Sony IMX1,front-5.0MP
SIM card: Dual SIM card,dual standby
Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g/n
USB: Micro 5pin USB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Positioning: GPS,A-GPS
FOTA(wireless update): Support
Fingerprint ID: Support
NFC: Support （The second batch os P3000s will pack NFC）
http://www.elephone.hk/p3000s-6752.html
Forum Elephone:
http://bbs.elephone.hk/forum.php?gid=249#.VTKrduGRa5I
Disassemby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnQX4pYz9R8

next week it will arrive, as soon as possible, review and hands on video!
Anyone interested in custom recovery creation, can have my support for testing purpose.

The first impact was not bad. Probably the performance are not the top with kitkat 4.4.4, battery seems ti be poor in terms of screen on time and capacity. Good news is that on the elephone forum is available original firmware, new custom rom flyme 4.2 and philz touch recovery.
Here's the link of philz Touch recovery
http://www.needrom.com/download/p3000s-3gb-64bit-philz-touch-6/

Anyone received the phone?

Yes, I'll post a review soonish .

My unboxing and hands on:
https://youtu.be/jS_Ex9c7tiY

Thanks for the reviews. I have seen on the Elephone P3000s 3GB page (http://www.elephone.hk/P3000S-6752.html) that there is no NFC included in first batch ( NFC: Support (The second batch os P3000s will pack NFC) / NFC:support（100,000 pieces of P3000s were sent out in April don't support NFC.）) . How the NFC supporting devices can be identified? Is it only a SW/driver issue or hardware topic? Thx and br

Nfc is an hardware topic, near micro sd slot on the rear, you must have two pins that connects to the rear cover with nfc antenna on it.

I have one of those non-NFC phones (don't care too much about NFC, and asked elephone.cc to send me one from the first batch to get it quicker).
My impressions after using it for almost two weeks:
Speed, smoothness is good, probably thanks to the CPU, GPU and 3GB Ram.
The main SIM card slot was too tight from the factory to insert a full size SIM card with perforated edges (so that I can pop out a micro sim size SIM) so the SIM card broke when I tried to force it into the slot.
I then got a new SIM card (thankfully I share offices with my mobile network provider...) and I first used a small tweezer to bend open the SIM card slot a bit while gently pushing in the SIM card.
That worked.
I'm not very impressed with the battery life, but maybe I'm asking for too much?
Today it's been running 10,5 hours on battery with normal use, it's now down to 6% battery level.
Maybe that's ok, I don't know.
The biggest problem is that I feel the wifi/bluetooth radio is unstable.
I got myself the new, very nice LG Urbane smartwatch 5 days ago, but it looses contact with the phone all the time so I don't get any notifications from the phone, and can't interact like placing calls etc.
I often also notice that even though the wifi icon in the top bar implies that it has almost a full wifi signal, the wifi connection is actually lost, and I have experienced several times that I'm not able to disconnect/reconnect but have to reboot the phone in order to get everything working again.
It would be good to hear from other owners, if they experience any of this or if I should first try a factory reset (I did that as soon as I received it though, as I always do when I buy a new phone/tablet), or an alternative ROM, before I start the possibly dreaded process of trying to get elephone.cc to send me a replacement.
Christopher
Oslo, Norway

I agree with your post grenness
I've had mine since it came out and purchased it from Gearbest, to replace my HTC One M7 that I couldn't relash properly.
I've only been usiing mine on Wifi with WhatsApp and gaming for the first few few weeks to get used to it.
The Wifi is weak, It cuts out quite a bit... which is real annoying when I use phone with Wifi at home.
I couldn't ge the SIM 1 Card to fit either so I just put it in the MicroSIM slot.
As for the battery I probably have too many Apps that use a lot of processing power, But I need to run it completely flat to see how long it will last.
Another thing I found is that if you do want NFC there is backcover available on Aliexpress(probably wrong spelling) that allows you to enable it. which I might get when I purchase a Glass Screen protector and Case.

Thought Id share my impressions on this phone.
First of all, I know Elephone.cc is not Elephone's oficial store as they pretend but do not order from them, seriously dont. They dont respond to support emails, Took them a week to send the phone and they sent just the phone, without the extra batery, glass screen protector and leather case, so thats $30 thrown away because they are reluctant to offer the refund for the parts they didnt send.
About the phone:
Smooth indeed, it moves nice, very nice, is fast but that is a given with the specs.
GSM reception is the worst, very very very bad, I get no signal at all in places I used to get full signal with my previous phone (a Lenovo S939)
The battery - Oh the battery, omg, I think that if I could put 2 2A batteries in it would last longer, very bad battery life, doesnt last 12 hours with mobile data one and very little use, If I use it like I used my previous phone (extremly moderate) I need to charge it every 5-6h, which is very inconvenient because Im not allways near a power source.
The fingerprint thingy, while it does work in just the right angle is useless, you have to slide my finger 10 times to scan once, I didnt even manage to set a fingerprint because it must scan it like 7 times.
The autorotate is crazy, allways goes to landscape even if you just tilt the phone a bit, and then you must turn it 4-5 times to go back to portrait, so you have to disable it otherwise you cant use the phone.
The phone is not usable while charging because the touchscreen goes nuts.
The camera ) .My very old Nokia n73 takes way better pictures that this, even my previous phone which has a lower res camera is waay better than this one (also Congrats on the false advertising for the camera - not sony and not 13mpx).
I dont think I just got a bad phone from factory, because I saw more people having issues like mine. And this is their top model at this moment with the p7000 not relesead yet.
I very much regret for purhasing this gadget (not phone cause it cant be used as one) so do yourself a favor and dont purchase any Elephone, I doubt they have any good models.

Don't agree, my sample had not the issues you wrote. Only battery is poor, but in this case i think that software support is not good, so it needs updates..

I thought Elephone would have had Lollipop available by now.
Is there anyway to boost the Wifi on the phone?

good morning, there are some news on a custom rom with lollipop?

hi all. i have just received an OTA update to my p3000s 3gb x64bit phone. when i got the phone, it was already rooted. since the update it is no longer rooted. could someone please point me to the info, if any, on how to get root back?
Many TIA

Prettygrim said:
hi all. i have just received an OTA update to my p3000s 3gb x64bit phone. when i got the phone, it was already rooted. since the update it is no longer rooted. could someone please point me to the info, if any, on how to get root back?
Many TIA
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You can try Root Genius or King Root. Greetings
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Kingroot works. I've just try it.

hi. tnx for the reply and info.
glad you got Kingo to work. unfortunately, it wont for me. i had tried that along with iroot and root genius. i cant get anything to work. i only found out when quickboot failed and i then checked with root checker. i wonder why i cant get the phone to root again?
did you check with root checker to make sure, because kingoroot and iroot both told me i had root but root checker said i hadn't. assuming root checker is correct, i cant get root back and i cant use quickboot, which basically verifies no root achieved

Crap, I also had the OTA update earlier today and went ahead and installed it.
Bye, bye, root.
Oh well, anyone notice any improvements to the phone after the update?
On the crappy camera, take a look at this photo taken outside in partly overcast weather (which is supposed to be good for photographing), notice how the green colors are completely useless in the right part of the picture? And how unclear everything is?
I'm telling you, this camera sucks...
edit: sorry, image should now be visible

just had this mail from SuperElephone:
The new version of OTA has root function. That means if you update OTA, your phone will be rooted automatically.
unfortunately, that is not the case, as i found out and have mailed them back informing of the error. not sure what response, if any, i'll get from them now.

I read somewhere that you just have to install and update SuperSU after OTA and will be fine...I DO NOT KNOW THAT. I JUST READ ABOUT IT.
But..I would like to know about other issues on this phone...WiFi, data, battery etc.
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megthebest said:
Good news is that on the elephone forum is available original firmware, new custom rom flyme 4.2 and philz touch recovery.
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can you, please, put link here for this forum?
EDIT:
found it, thx

Ulefone Be Touch 2, 5.5 Inch Full HD, Metal Frame, MT6752 64-bit, 3050mAh Battery

UPDATE: Full User Review Video
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Ulefone is a Chinese smartphone OEM, and the company is currently pushing many new smartphones out to the market. The Ulefone Be Touch was released 1 month ago. Ulefone has already now announce the Ulefone Be Touch 2.
The Ulefone Be Touch 2 come with a 5.5-inch (Full HD 1920x1080, 401ppi) display (2.5D curved glass), LTE 4G support along with 3GB RAM and 16GB of internal storage (expandable). The phone is powered by the MT6752 64-bit octa-core processor @ 1.7GHz and a 3,050mAh battery. The phone again features a 13-megapixel camera (IMX214) and a 5-megapixel on the front. Like the Ulefone Be Touch (1) it also features a home button which doubles as a fingerprint scanner.
Read more on http://ulefone.com/products/betouch2/features.html and http://ulefone.com
Brand ulefone
Model Be Touch 2
Color Metal Grey / Silk White
Dimensions 158.1 x 77.4 x 8.60
Weight 160g (with battery)
Operating system Pre-install Android 5.1 Lollipop
Touch ID Front Fingerprint Scanner, Unlock in 0.1-0.5s, Press touch ID
CPU 64Bit MTK MT6752 processor Octa core 1.7GHz CPU
GPU Mali T760 MP2/700MHz GPU
RAM 3GB LPDDR3 RAM
ROM 16G (SD card Up to 64GB)
Battery SONY 3050mAh Lithium-ion Polymer Battery
Standby Time 340 Hours
Display
Size 5.5 inch
Resolution FHD 1080*1920 pixels
Type IPS LTPS, GFF full Lamination (2.5D Arc screen)
Material Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
Cameras
Rear camera 13MP 4th generation camera Sony IMX214
Front camera 5.0MP (OmniVision OV5648)
Video 1080P
Connection
Network GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 (band5,band8,band3,band2)
WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 (band5,band8,band2,band1)
FDD-LTE: 800/1800/2100/2600(band20,band3,band1,band7)
SIM Dual sim dual standby, Micro SIM and Standard SIM
WiFi WiFi802.11 a/b/g/n/ac Support dual-band Wi-Fi(2.4GHz/5GHz)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Positioning GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, Digital Compass
Hall Effect Sensor, Gravity Sensor, Ambient Light Sensor,
Touch Sensor, Digital Compass, OTG
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Fatastic. Finally an blow-$200 phone with front Touch ID. I'm waiting for today's "snap-up" event as they call it. But when will it be delivered?

Very beautiful phone, I purchased Ulefone Be Touch 2 in August 5, I received my phone after 5 days.

There is a flash sale at 17:00 on http://goo.gl/sgucAi . The phone will be in stock on 2015-07-01

I like the front Touch ID

Krystyna said:
Very beautiful phone, when I can buy.
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Its an awesome looking phone I might be getting one but I will have to see..If I get one I will do a review.
There's a few things I really like about this phone
1.touch ID
3GB ram
3.Android 5 lollipop
There's also a flash sale at Geekbuying and other stores but you have to be quick & LUCKY to get it at the flash sale price.
Iv got the Ulefone be pure at the moment & the camera on that phone is spot on but the phone lacks lollipop rom & bigger storage I took this photo with my Ulefone be pure

I was trying thay snap up crap for 2 days now and while I was being pretty fast I didn't have luck.
Did anyone else try?
Any luck?
Any tips?

I saw on their facebook that they'll make custom ROM for the Be Touch 2. Many people vote for CM and Miui, while i myself like CM.

Xavi Alonso said:
I saw on their facebook that they'll make custom ROM for the Be Touch 2. Many people vote for CM and Miui, while i myself like CM.
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Yeah I saw it. Just voted for CM as well.
The flash deals never work for me, I just accept it and bought one for 220..
on 1949deal it's the cheapest. It comes without 'free gifts' (screen protector and some sillicon sleeve-cover) which I don't want anyway. I can use that 10 bucks to buy a proper flip-cover
The Be Touch 2 has the same measurements / size as the Be Touch 1 so you can just buy those and they will fit.
I am really looking forward to this device! The fact Ulefone is active on their Facebook and tries to get some custom ROM's for their device really helps with the idea of long time support (although I have really no idea).

Flash sale is real. Just managed to get one: D
Some places on aliexpress do 30 off flash sale as well as 50.
Just so you know.
Good luck!

Okay I got this info directly from Ulefone
Ulefone plans to make custom third-party ROMs for its newest flagship Ulefone Be Touch 2.
Ulefone, first of all, is going to make one custom ROM based on the UI desired by most of its customers before start the second one. In a survey on the company’s Facebook Page, most fans voted for MIUI and Cyanogen Mod - among others like EMUI and Flyme.
“People want that it provide different interaction experiences and variable themes, and in the same time, they want it to be light for best performance"
"Ulefone now take both factors into consideration and make something people feel inspiring and good to use simultaneously" said Ulefone CEO Jason Liu.
These days, Ulefone received feedbacks involving custom ROM from many users, most of whom suggested CM.
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Please I want to askabout the 4g sims,
Iread that only one is 4g and the other 2g!
That happens to all the two sims mobile phones or not?
If not which are with two 4g sims?
Thanks!

MUG3NHC said:
Flash sale is real. Just managed to get one: D
Some places on aliexpress do 30 off flash sale as well as 50.
Just so you know.
Good luck!
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Hi, may I know which shop did you get it from?
Also, what time does the flash usually starts?

ferbulous said:
Hi, may I know which shop did you get it from?
Also, what time does the flash usually starts?
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I got it from a shop called Best Credit Technology on Aliexpress. Flash Sale starts at 18.00 uk time.
Also, see here:
http://ulefone.com/
Greetz.

MUG3NHC said:
I got it from a shop called Best Credit Technology on Aliexpress. Flash Sale starts at 18.00 uk time.
Also, see here:
Greetz.
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Thanks, I guess you need be really lucky and quick adding it to cart since they have a limited units of ulefone for flash sale (only 4)
I checked yesterday for the 3 aliexpress listed on ulefone website at 23:00 GMT+8 but it seems like they were still selling on regular price.

ferbulous said:
Thanks, I guess you need be really lucky and quick adding it to cart since they have a limited units of ulefone for flash sale (only 4)
I checked yesterday for the 3 aliexpress listed on ulefone website at 23:00 GMT+8 but it seems like they were still selling on regular price.
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Yeah, you need to be lucky. I tried 4 times and I wasnt even that quick that 4th time, but they just happened to have one left. Maybe get it with 30 off

Both sim are 3g- 4g ?
NFC?

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Yeah, you need to be lucky. I tried 4 times and I wasnt even that quick that 4th time, but they just happened to have one left. Maybe get it with 30 off
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Guess I got lucky last night, had to open several store pages just in case I missed one.
Have they started shipping to your address? Or will they ship on July 1st as mentioned on their website.
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Both sim are 3g- 4g ?
NFC?
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No NFC
It's 4G and 2G, you don't need to swap the sim.
But one sim needs to be in 2g mode when the other one is 4g.

ferbulous said:
Guess I got lucky last night, had to open several store pages just in case I missed one.
Have they started shipping to your address? Or will they ship on July 1st as mentioned on their website.
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No NFC
It's 4G and 2G, you don't need to swap the sim.
But one sim needs to be in 2g mode when the other one is 4g.
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Did you get one then? 50 or 30?
As far as I know they will start shipping on 1st or 2nd of July.
That will be my backup phone

ferbulous said:
Guess I got lucky last night, had to open several store pages just in case I missed one.
Have they started shipping to your address? Or will they ship on July 1st as mentioned on their website.
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No NFC
It's 4G and 2G, you don't need to swap the sim.
But one sim needs to be in 2g mode when the other one is 4g.
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Sorry about my stupit questions!!!
All the 2sim mobiles are that way?or only be touch?as a friend of mine saying that the chinese didn't spend money for a newer and more expensive 2sim chip?
Thanks.

It works "disable package app" in Tab S 8. 4 MM?

In my old S7 I was able to freeze many Samsung apps with excellent results and I was wondering if it is also usable in my Tab S 8.4 with android 6 MM. Can you tell me something?
Regards!

I have been using this version on my T800 10.5" for years with no problems, be careful what you disable though, each app is a different colour so you know which apps are safe to disable.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.powermanager.batteryaddon
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I have been using this version on my T800 10.5" for years with no problems, be careful what you disable though, each app is a different colour so you know which apps are safe to disable.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.powermanager.batteryaddon
John.
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Hi John, you know of any thread where you can see those apps that are safe to freeze
Regards
Edited. This app is 100x100 functional in our Tab S with MM 6.0.1?
Is much money
thanks!

Princeland said:
Hi John, you know of any thread where you can see those apps that are safe to freeze
Regards
Edited. This app is 100x100 functional in our Tab S with MM 6.0.1?
Is much money
thanks!
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I am on the stock MM 6.0.1 and it works fine.
You can get a refund if you don't like it within 15 minutes, maybe longer see link below.
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-still-get-a-refund-from-google-play-after-the-1-1579659666
watch youtube video click link below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcBvXUJH1x0
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I am on the stock MM 6.0.1 and it works fine.
You can get a refund if you don't like it within 15 minutes, maybe longer see link below.
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-still-get-a-refund-from-google-play-after-the-1-1579659666
watch youtube video click link below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcBvXUJH1x0
John.
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Hello John,
Do you know any thread on our tablet where i can see frozen apps using this app? Are some of your captures possible?
Thanks!

Princeland said:
Hello John,
Do you know any thread on our tablet where i can see frozen apps using this app? Are some of your captures possible?
Thanks!
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Below is a link to what is safe to disable though not specific to the Tab S.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ackage-disabler-pro-apps-getting-rid-t3443355
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Below is a link to what is safe to disable though not specific to the Tab S.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ackage-disabler-pro-apps-getting-rid-t3443355
John.
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Thank you, John. I want to ask you 3 more things since it seems that you are one of the few that remain around here. 1 Can I use themes on the tablet ... like? 2 I have been using my second-hand Tab S for 2 weeks and it suffers a reboot when I do not use the battery saving mode, with the saving mode, everything is ok!... why? 3 My tablet is almost 3 years old and I was very scared about the battery, especially the first day I did not get more than 4 hours but based on freezing apps from Samsung and google and only using it to watch movies, Netflix, series, Youtube etcetera, I have managed to get more than 8 hours of screen and once I got to 9 hours ... Today I have 5 hours of screen to 50% watching 2 movies and a series of Netflix ... you think that this indicates that my battery is ok or with a new one would get better consumption?

1: I have never used a theme
2: The saving mode most likely draws less power from the battery`s you tab s, most likely needs a new battery or the battery connection have become loose (very common) on 8.4" does you screen flicker?
3: how long your battery lasts depends on how much power the app is using, the screen brightness and how light the image being shown is.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
1: I have never used a theme
2: The saving mode most likely draws less power from the battery`s you tab s, most likely needs a new battery or the battery connection have become loose (very common) on 8.4" does you screen flicker?
3: how long your battery lasts depends on how much power the app is using, the screen brightness and how light the image being shown is.
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Yes, my screen suffers those flashes when I do not use the saving mode and then it restarts. The battery correctly measures the percentages without jumping as I have read from other colleagues. I have also read that removing the battery and replacing it in its place can correct these restarts.

Princeland said:
Yes, my screen suffers those flashes when I do not use the saving mode and then it restarts. The battery correctly measures the percentages without jumping as I have read from other colleagues. I have also read that removing the battery and replacing it in its place can correct these restarts.
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Yeah, screen flickering is a bad battery or a bad battery connector (poor connection) many owners have had this problem, especially the 8.4" Tab S
Some Samsung service centres have admitted it`s a bad connector and have installed a more heavy duty version according to one owner, some people have soldered the battery wires directly to the motherboard.
You can try disconnecting and re-connecting the battery, check youtube for a guide.
I have an T800 10.5" 4 years old this November and touch wood no problems.
If you do a search for "flickering screen" you should find lots of thread on the subject.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Yeah, screen flickering is a bad battery or a bad battery connector (poor connection) many owners have had this problem, especially the 8.4" Tab S
Some Samsung service centres have admitted it`s a bad connector and have installed a more heavy duty version according to one owner, some people have soldered the battery wires directly to the motherboard.
You can try disconnecting and re-connecting the battery, check youtube for a guide.
I have an T800 10.5" 4 years old this November and touch wood no problems.
If you do a search for "flickering screen" you should find lots of thread on the subject.
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Thank you very much John, but being a bad connection, why does not it happen using the saving mode? I guess it will be something technical that I do not know but I find it very funny ... I will try to open the tablet to get the battery and then replace it, I hope to be lucky
Soon I will give news if this corrects the restarts. Very kind for all your answers John
Regards!!!

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Yeah, screen flickering is a bad battery or a bad battery connector (poor connection) many owners have had this problem, especially the 8.4" Tab S
Some Samsung service centres have admitted it`s a bad connector and have installed a more heavy duty version according to one owner, some people have soldered the battery wires directly to the motherboard.
You can try disconnecting and re-connecting the battery, check youtube for a guide.
I have an T800 10.5" 4 years old this November and touch wood no problems.
If you do a search for "flickering screen" you should find lots of thread on the subject.
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Everything has gone perfect. I have frozen all the Samsung bloatware, a total of 150 apps or processes and the tablet works much more smoothly without delays, very smooth with an excellent deep sleep and the best thing is that the restarts and blinks have disappeared in the performance mode ... Thanks for your advice on this vital app ... greetings John

Princeland said:
Everything has gone perfect. I have frozen all the Samsung bloatware, a total of 150 apps or processes and the tablet works much more smoothly without delays, very smooth with an excellent deep sleep and the best thing is that the restarts and blinks have disappeared in the performance mode ... Thanks for your advice on this vital app ... greetings John
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Would you mind sharing a list of APKs you froze to debloat the tablet? Thanks
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

E--Man said:
Would you mind sharing a list of APKs you froze to debloat the tablet? Thanks
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
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The same program freezes all the Samsung bloatware to which I have added these ... Time, Samsung push, Samsung account, children mode and all google apps