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The GPS API gateway in I-Mate latest ROM (1.13.53 WWE) seems be missing.
If you search in JasJars help under the term GPS, you will be directed to [settings/system/GPS/etc.) but the latest JJ ROM does not seem to have it there, unless I'm missing something.
As result, I can pair a BT GPS, outbound it to P4, inbound to P8, but these ports can not be detectable by a GPS software who does not recognize these virtual ports.
Any advice ?
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Saar
Registry Editor
In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
The add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
Soft reset
You will find the GPS icon in Settings/Connections
GPS Applet back from the dark
Thank you tekflow.
Works, now I'll see if Destinator works as well...
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Saar
Something looks wrong with the BT GPS connection on the IMate JJ, latest ROM.
- After revealed the hidden GPS applet, thx. to Tekflow !! (why hide it, maybe cause it doesn't work ?)
- Paired 2 different BT GPS devices (RT RBT1000/GS BT-338) to JJ
- Chosen as Outbound Port - Com 4/Inbound Port Com 8 (not that otherwise possible)
- On GPS Applet set common virtual GPS port to Com 9
- Nav S/W (tried 2 different) actually DOES NOT recognize either BT GPS
On the IPaq 27xx, with a Beta WM5 and Widcom excellent and user friendly BT stack, all works like a charm..
Or maybe I am doing something wrong.
Pls help..
Thx.,
Saar
Hi Saar,
I read about this quite a lot looking to find a solution for the problem. It looks like the Destinator cannot see the required COM port in the list. Even when activating the GPS API with the registry it doesn't help.
For destinator there is a solution, for NavNGo I couldn't find one so if you know something I'll be happy to hear.
What you need to do is to open the file destinator.ini with HEX editor and manually change the COM port to the one you need (same one you created when you paired the device I guess it is 8)
and then it will work.
You can find further info here:
http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7600&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
Is DestinatorPN looking fine on your device ? When I tried the menu was all messed up, maybe because of the VGA ?
I could only work with ver 3.0.75
by the way, I wonder why you don't post a question in pocketpcfreak you prefer writing in english more than your own language?
Sagi
Just been playing with this myself, connected my BT receiver to COM:8 and share this using COM:0, TomTom V5 sees both ports but only manages to talk to the GPS receiver on the physical port ie COM:8 not the virtual port COM:0.
Also can anyone explain why most of the COM port are unavailable when pairing BT devices.
And whats QCT Data Interface & RIL Port ? ?
Thanks
Destnator PN and WM5
Hi Sagi,
Thx. a bunch. Tried it to the letter with DPN..had a moment of hope, but it was a short one. Unfortunately.
I'm hanging out here, as I doubt if anybody could answer it on the local forums...you see... I'm usually the Q/A master..so if I don't know...well, you see my point...
Anyway, the problem with the "spread" menus has been fixed.. Destinator PN "X" menus look smooth on the JJ (it's a beta of the next version to come soon). I have inside sources..
However I've used a large part of my box of tricks to make DPN work on WM5, with MS GPS API, and BT Stack, but nada...:-(
Of course we could dig deeper into this, but I assumed somebody may already'd have a clue. That's why we're here for, no ?
Again, thank you,
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Saar
No problems.
In the mean time you can use 3.0.75 it works fine with the tricks mentioned above.
When you have a perfect solution I'll be the first to try it. I like "Nehama" much better than TT5.
If you need another beta tester for the new ver on the JJ just let me know
Sagi
Thx. again.
In fact hex editing the ini fili causes the software to behave just as in your mail..... less actually connecting the GPS. I guess it's a starting point, I'll pass the info to our RD.
Regds.,
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Saar
im having the same problem
Hi Saar!
im having the same problem with Jasjar + navNgo using BT-338
for some reason the program cannot find the gps .
i tried contacting the guys at GPS&more to get support but still no luck.
Maybe you got more luck than me and can help me?
I've just tested with PocketStreets 2005 and that works allright with Jasjar and Globalsat BT-338 after unhiding the GPS in the controlpanel. I set the com port to 8.
Hoooowever... I have serious problems with getting the correct coordinates when using the wm5 gpsapi.dll (gpssample in wm5 sdk). The same sample works 100% with a wm5 qtek 2020 and wm5 qtek 9090.
Anyone noticed anything similar? Or know of a gps app that uses wm5 gpsapi?
/Cheers
JasJar GPS API
David K:
No solution yet, tried also with RBT1000 BT GPS. Outbound Port: Com4, GPS Program Port: Com 9. Same behaviour.
To further focus on the problem, we've uninstalled Destinator and installed a straightforward GPS monitoring App. (Vito Navigator 2). Auto scanning detects Port 9, but does not detect a GPS signal on this port, either from GS-BT338 or RT RBT1000. This excludes the possibility of a problem with D or NG apps.
This also seems to be a hint for a ROM/Hardware problem. I hope it ain't. We're also investigating with HW manufacturer. I'll update if resolved.
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Saar
This is very similar to TomTom, it can see the GPS COM port, but no data is received....
Maybe this is the eason why its been disabled ?
What I don't understand. seems as some JasJars do GPS OK while some other don't..
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Saar
TOMTOM
Actually I use TOMTOM now (5.1)
The software can see all COM ports and it works great with my BT GPS set to COM8 (it does not need the GPS API at all and I can disable it)
Version 5 had same problems as D or NNG and couldn't see the port. the new BT GPS cab file that came with new version solved this problem.
I still believe that it is a D and NNG software issue that can be fixed
I'll be happy to hear any updated from the HW manufacturer when you have them.
SaarAvigour;
Do you have access to an EMTAC BTGPS? I have this working.
You'll need to know the paring key to get this working for the Bluetooth GPS.
I believe you'll only need to setup an Outgoing COM port, I used 8
Microsoft Pocket Streets can be set to COM 8 and it should work.
Only after the GPS has a fix will the second port work, I set this up to COM 6 Pocket Streets can work with either COM 8 or COM 6.
Note that I had to delete the Incoming port I setup to get this to work.
Hope this helps some.
1) Start (menu) | Settings | System (tab) | Bluetooth (icon) |
2) Check Turn on Bluetooth | on Mode Tab
3 Tap Devices (tab)
4 Tap New Partnership...
5 Tap name of found Bluetooth GPS device to select, then next
6 Enter 0000 as the passkey (four zeros) for the Belkin F8T051, 0183 for the EMTAC | tap next
7 You can rename the device on this screen only | Check Serial port | Tap Finish
8 Tap COM Ports
9 Tap New Outgoing Port
10 Select Bluetooth GPS from List of Devices | Tap Next
11 Select COM Port, try 0, 5, 6, or 8 | Tap Finish
Thx. Dah54,
Been abroad, seen your posting only now. I have a GlobalSat BT 308, but the principle is simillar. I got it all working with Destinator.
thx.,
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Saar
Destinator on JASJAR
Hi Saar,
Since lots of people are trying to get it work, and tried to help you, it will be nice of you tel explain how you got it work for all other users who are still struggling ??
gps
By all means, thought I did...sorry
Pair your GPS
Start/Settings/Connections/BT
Set GPS Serial Outbound Port to Com 8 (Com 4 possible, but was not detected by some specifically tested SatNav apps.)
Unhide your GPS Control Panel (still a mistery why some OEMs decided to hide it, and others not to)
Use a Registry Editor
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ControlPanel/GPS Settings
Unhide the GPS Control Panel by modifying from (1) to (0)
Confirm by exiting and saving (OK button)
Your GPS Control panel will feature now, in its all grace, in Settings/System
There's another modification suggested,that will put the pannel under Settings/connections, but why change the original setup
Set your GPS Virtual Port
Start/Settings/System/GPS
Leave Hardware as ("None")
Set Programs to Com 8
Save and Exit (OK)
Soft Reset
Probably a reason to lots of failures. Suspectedly, the GPS control panel makes changes to registry. No SR, and changes are non active.
Works for me with various SatNav apps. Here, case closed....
Saar
Found in Settings, System, External GPS, Programs
I know that it says that this is the port that GPS data communicates with software wanting GPS data but how does that actually differ to COM9 which communicates the GPS Data.
I know it sounds like a strange question, but please read it twice and it will make more sense.
Thanks
This is the MS virtual GPS driver port that interface with the actual physical on-chip GPS port COM9. This basically functions like gpsgate such that multiple GPS app can open that GDP port simultaneously.
thanks ww2250,
that was a very clear explanation. I had heard that these newer handsets could do what Fransons GPS Gate could do!
It does give you the option to set it as a COM port or just nominate a GDP port. How do you know which one to use?
And is it best set to none (aswell as disabling 'manage my connections automatically') if only 1 application needs access to the gps data?
thanks.
If you are just using one app at a time, i.e. no simultaneous opening of any GPS port, these settings shouldn't concern you. It will work regardless of what you set in the GPS applet if you use COM9 directly.
I do plan on running multiple applications at the same time.
Infact,whilst I am running TomTom Navigator 6, I am trying to run in the background a datalogging program, called GpsDIS by E Gerlach.
So whilst 2 apps are needing the NMEA data, what should I set the GDP port to?
(on a related separate note, does WM6 have vb runtime built in, or does it have to be installed?)
thanks
Then you just choose GDP1 as the virtual port and COM9 as the physical port in the GPS applet. In your GPS app, use GDP1.
There are some old stuborn apps that just refuse to use ports other than COMX, however.
I've got a samsung omnia and i have installed TT7.
TT7 works with a external gps mouse, but the enhanced gps doesn't work. Can anyone help me with this problem?
Is there a tool,to fix this?
Greetz Snake
gps in omnia
snake-eyess said:
I've got a samsung omnia and i have installed TT7.
TT7 works with a external gps mouse, but the enhanced gps doesn't work. Can anyone help me with this problem?
Is there a tool,to fix this?
Greetz Snake
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i use igo8 in omnia and gps signal work in port 3 baud 38400 but first time i wait 1 houre outside whit clear sky for satellite....just wait....
Use "gpsgate 2.6"
i use gpsgate 2.6 and to get signal and position take maximum 5 minutes with very heavy raining condition.
GPS setting
1. Configure WM6.1(OMNIA) (Settings - External GPS):
- Programs : COM2
- Hardware : COM9 baudrate : 9600
- Access : activate the check box
2. install GPSGate 2.6
3. Configure GPSGate :
- Input : COM2 baudrate : 4800
- Output ADD : Virtual COM Port . NMEA Filter
Active : Virtual COM6 / (All NMEA) Filter
4. Configure Tomtom :
- GPS Settings : Other NMEA, Speed : 4800, on Franson COM6
This is my setting for TOMTOM7 and i hope igo8 setting work same
I use iGuidance 4.0
The GPS sw has an auto GPS port detection and it works really good except once in a while, the screen went blank if left untouched for more than one minute (setting) even though the buttons were still working. It could be a power mode saving (turn off LCD after 1 min) a compatibility issue with Omnia's higher resolution WVGA screen and the 4.0 ver is more than one year old to work well with WM 6.1.
SOS PLZZZ
i also have the samsung omnia ( i900 )
ive tried to use google maps and few other apps but my GPS just does not want to connect. ive tried all com ports etc , on default google maps does say roughly aftyer 2 mins 3 or 4 satalites connect but only for few seconds and it seems i NEED to connect to gprs 1st.
this was outside on a clear day. am i missing something?
has any1 solved this problem ?
ive checked google and this does seem to be a bit of a problem. im with orange (seems vodafone has enhanced settings?)
are there any updates or programes that can fix this?
plz help.
just............
Go to setings to disable external gps, after that use tweak and let windows set your gps mode, because omnia is built in gps reciever.
There is a good post here on working Omnia GPS software and some users with first hand experience.
They helped me a bit,
http://www.omniadevelopers.com/known-working-gps-software-for-the-omnia-t4.html
hi there
hi mate even i did the same thing but i am afraid to say that TOMTOM is no good for OMNIA. IF U WANT TO USE NAVIGATION ON OMNIA THEN BEST ONES ARE iGO OR BETTER THEN THAT GARMIN XT...TRY THAT...AND U CAN FIND GARMIN HERE ITSELF JUS LOOK AROUND.
when u say tweak u mean playing about with the com ports till it works?
and thanks for the link about omnia GPS..explains alot.. will have to tryin running faster :s
Have you tried typing in *#1472365# into their Omnia2?
It brings up some extra gps settings, some of which are similar to settings that can be reached in registry but some are unique.
The main one that was of interest to me was the start up mode of GPS.
Mine was set to cold start which meant that every time i started my tomtom it did so by deleting all previous data.
This meant i was on a cold start each and every time i used it which was why it took forever to lock sometimes.
I have now changed this setting to "hotstart" and my locks are instant.
See post 95 onwards at the following link for more info on tomtom with omnia
http://www.modaco.com/content-page/2...omnia/page/80/
route66 läuft 1a ohne portsplitter etc =)
out of the box!
Has anybody managed to configure an external bluetooth GPS unit with the new windows mobie 6.5beta?
I can pair them, but the JRTGPS (JR-29) remains disconnected and when I try to connect it I get:
Code:
Your device did not connect with JRTGPS. The connection failed or the passcode is incorrect
Tomtom naturally does not see the GPS unit.
See settings at the bottom. By the way the JR-29 are very sturdy, small and compact and used standard nokia batteries so a lovely and cheap 42 channels bluetooth gps receiver!
paired easly by bluetooth gps
hi, i paired my blue angel easly,Garmin xt 5.00.20 software,connected without any problem,my bluetooth gps reciever is hulox slim 236.
homam_france said:
hi, i paired my blue angel easly,Garmin xt 5.00.20 software,connected without any problem,my bluetooth gps reciever is hulox slim 236.
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Thats one of the best GPS I've had. I had another BT and had problems locking on Sats. Had a wired one and also had problems with Sats. GPSlim 236 always locks on atleast 6 Sats and I've had up to 9 at a time. Great buy!
@Gloomyboy: I haven't flashed 6.5 yet, so can't give you feedback there mate.
I have TomTom GPS and it works well with WM 6.5.
I have a Pharos and it works like a charm.
Well, it must be the JR-29 that doesn´t work with 6.5
pairs ok but afterwards stays disconnected (under the new bluetooth settings) no matter what I do
It works great with my old acer pda with windows 2003 ce
gloomyboy said:
Well, it must be the JR-29 that doesn´t work with 6.5
pairs ok but afterwards stays disconnected (under the new bluetooth settings) no matter what I do
It works great with my old acer pda with windows 2003 ce
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Verify a few things...
1. Make sure you don't set BT GPS as Serial
2. Make sure you have assigned an Outgoing COM Port to the GPS (You need to know which one your GPS uses. IE: GPSlim236 uses Port 6.
3. Try both, Secured and Unsecured for the port you chose.(I use secured)
4. On Settings>> GPS Settings>>Program: verify that you have (None) for "Program Port Software
5. On Settings>> GPS Settings>>Hardware: Select the same COM port assigned under BT Outgoing Port. (my case Port 6)(Baud Rate 115200)
6. On Settings>> GPS Settings>>Access: Select Automatic
Hope this helps. Good Luck
gloomyboy said:
Well, it must be the JR-29 that doesn´t work with 6.5
pairs ok but afterwards stays disconnected (under the new bluetooth settings) no matter what I do
It works great with my old acer pda with windows 2003 ce
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Settings for GPS in WM 2003 and WM 6.x are totally different.
thanks to everybody I got it working now!
In case anybody else has a JR-29 (they were very popular on ebay when I bought it some 2 years ago, cheap and with 42 channels)
Bluetooth Settings:
- Outgoing COM PORT 8
- Authentication passkey required = ON
External GPS:
- Program port NONE
- COM Hardware port 8
- Bauds 9600
- manage GPS on (works with off as well but seems to take longer to handshake)
Hi,
I have a gpslim240 but my situation is like gloomyboy. When I tried to pair my gps, it always said "wrong password". Can you tell me more about what you did to make it work ?
Did you do all the settings part BEFORE or AFTER trying to pair the devices ?
The GPS problem is the only thing make me regret to have a BA because all other things work great.
Any help is welcome.
Thx
mik
As soon as I try to pair up I am prompted for a password and enter 0000
that has never been a problem for me
I hear other passwords are 1234
and 00000
I know my password is 0000, I switch to WM2003 each trip I make to be able to use my GPS. I use it also with my laptop.
So I know for sure this is a problem with any rom WM5+. I was hopeless until today. I just want to know exactly what you done because if this is only a settings problem, it's a great new ... I thought it was a driver problem.
well for my GPS it is a MUST to disable secure connection but I have to enable authentica. Play with those settings...
I too have a problem like gloomyboy while using Windows mobile 6.5 beta without Ramdisk version. But I can connect to my external GPS Holux 1000 by using Garmin XT 5.00.20 software.
I didnt face any problems pairing or conecting to my holux 1000 with ramdisk version from Sundream's one.
Try swampys V3 full rom (not the basic version), it definately has working bluetooth drivers.
Setting up external Bluetooth GPS
You only have to do this, if you want to use an external Bluetooth GPS. If you have never used your external Bluetooth GPS, this takes five minutes.
Connecting via bluetooth
* Make sure that the Bluetooth GPS device is turned on.
* On your phone go to Start-->Settings-->Connections-->Bluetooth.
* Set the checkbox "Turn on bluetooth" on the "Mode" tab.
* Go to the "devices" tab and choose "Add new device".
* Your bluetooth GPS device should appear in the list, otherwise recheck that its bluetooth functionality is turned on.
* Select your GPS device and click "continue" on the very bottom of the screen.
* You may be asked for a password - if you know the password enter it of course. Probably you don't because you didn't configure it.
o If you don't know the password, first try entering nothing (empty password) and continue.
o If that doesn't work try entering four zeroes "0000".
o Otherwise try reading the GPS devices manual or the manufacturer's web page.
* After you took that hurdle, check "serial port" as connection service - then click finish.
* Your device should now be listed on the bluetooth devices tab.
Configuring the COM port
* Go to the COM tab in the same Bluetooth system settings.
* Select "new connection".
* Select your Bluetooth GPS device.
* A COM connection will be shown "e.g. COM8", note this down, and click finish.
* Go to Start-->Settings-->GPS (or External GPS).
* Go to the "Hardware" tab and make sure that the GPS hardware connection is the COM connection you just noted down.
Check if your GPS works
* Start TomTom and configure other bluetooth device, port8
mik- said:
I know my password is 0000, I switch to WM2003 each trip I make to be able to use my GPS. I use it also with my laptop.
So I know for sure this is a problem with any rom WM5+. I was hopeless until today. I just want to know exactly what you done because if this is only a settings problem, it's a great new ... I thought it was a driver problem.
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gloomyboy said:
Try swampys V3 full rom (not the basic version), it definately has working bluetooth drivers.
Setting up external Bluetooth GPS
You only have to do this, if you want to use an external Bluetooth GPS. If you have never used your external Bluetooth GPS, this takes five minutes.
Connecting via bluetooth
* Make sure that the Bluetooth GPS device is turned on.
* On your phone go to Start-->Settings-->Connections-->Bluetooth.
* Set the checkbox "Turn on bluetooth" on the "Mode" tab.
* Go to the "devices" tab and choose "Add new device".
* Your bluetooth GPS device should appear in the list, otherwise recheck that its bluetooth functionality is turned on.
* Select your GPS device and click "continue" on the very bottom of the screen.
SEE NOTE 1 >>* You may be asked for a password - if you know the password enter it of course. Probably you don't because you didn't configure it.
SEE NOTE 1 >>o If you don't know the password, first try entering nothing (empty password) and continue.
SEE NOTE 1 >>o If that doesn't work try entering four zeroes "0000".
o Otherwise try reading the GPS devices manual or the manufacturer's web page.
SEE NOTE 2 >>* After you took that hurdle, check "serial port" as connection service - then click finish.
* Your device should now be listed on the bluetooth devices tab.
Configuring the COM port
* Go to the COM tab in the same Bluetooth system settings.
* Select "new connection".
* Select your Bluetooth GPS device.
SEE NOTE 3 >>* A COM connection will be shown "e.g. COM8", note this down, and click finish.
* Go to Start-->Settings-->GPS (or External GPS).
* Go to the "Hardware" tab and make sure that the GPS hardware connection is the COM connection you just noted down.
Check if your GPS works
* Start TomTom and configure other bluetooth device, port8
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Sorry for the clarification/correction for the benefit of the forum users.
NOTE 1 >> So far in the years I've been using BT Devices, all of them always use password 0000.
NOTE 2 >> Serial port is only used for WIRED attachments using a Data Cable. If its BT, do not check Serial.
NOTE 3 >> COM ports are not chosen randomly. You need to know the specific port that your device uses.
@mik-
You can go to BuyGPSNow and click on Customer Service... Ask a Question... and get the exact COM port that GPSlim 240 uses.
Thx a lot all !!!!
I can now use my GPS !!!!
Here is what I did :
-Add BT device.
-When Asked for password : 0000 ====> Error
-When Asked for password : 0000 ====> Error
-When Asked for password : 0000 ====> No error
Now I can choose a "BT Service" but no service are in the list.
-Save
-In the BT devices list, choose "Edit" for the GPS.
-Go in the "BT Services" and hit "refresh 4-5 times (until the serial service is shown).
-Choose Serial
-Create a new outgoing port (com 6) without secure connection.
In external GPS,
-Choose Hardware Com 6, 38400
Use COM 6 in any GPS software.
I tried to use COM 9 for "program port", but the GPS softwares didn't find a GPS on this port. But since COM 6 works, I'm REALLY happy.
Thank you very much.
so what is the cheapest GPS unit I can buy for BA?
2 years ago I bought my JRT-29 for 35 euros on ebay
It was advertised as bluetooth GPS 42 channels and is black and probably 5cm x 5cm (or 2" x 2" if you are in the states)
It uses standard nokia phone batteries which are easy to source so a very good purchase as far as I am concerned and works with the BA
markanthonypr said:
Sorry for the clarification/correction for the benefit of the forum users.
NOTE 1 >> So far in the years I've been using BT Devices, all of them always use password 0000.
NOTE 2 >> Serial port is only used for WIRED attachments using a Data Cable. If its BT, do not check Serial.
NOTE 3 >> COM ports are not chosen randomly. You need to know the specific port that your device uses.
@mik-
You can go to BuyGPSNow and click on Customer Service... Ask a Question... and get the exact COM port that GPSlim 240 uses.
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Hi,
Beg to differ with you:
1. I personally have a BT carkit mirror that has a pairing code of 8888, and I once had a BT headset that had the pairing code printed on a label hidden under the battery. So it is not always 0000 although most of the time it is.
2. Serial is NOT only for wired use. Older BT stacks used to use a virtual serial port for BT protocol communication and some still do. I have a Holux GPSlim 236 and the only service that shows up after I pair it is Serial.
3. The COM port used is not random, but you can pick any one that is free. I have successfully use COM6, COM7 and COM8 with the Holux connecting to IGO. You just have to make sure that you set up the same COM port in the BT settings and in the GPS program.
Personally, I dont even use the external GPS program. I set up the BT device and COM port in BT settings, then I go into the GPS program (IGO or Google Maps) and set the same settings there and it all works.
Hope this helps anybody who is having problems.
Bought a new Motorola A3100 this month and it's fun, and look at the potentials!
One thing I'd like to do is access the built-in GPS hardware in something other than the preloaded Google Maps. From what I read online and from poking around the registry in my phone I know that it has a GPS hardware that speaks NMEA 0183 (I have seen a log file on my device with the same NMEA stuff my standalone Garmin eTrex provides), has a GPS intermediate driver that all apps needing GPS access should go through, the hardware is in GPD1:, and GPSID provides COM1: for others to use. But when I tried to open COM1: with PuTTY it never succeeds.
My immediate goal is to get GPS2Blue to work - right now it hangs and needs a soft reset to kill it. Longer term goal is to load a second map/nav program which can store entire maps on device instead of going data all the time as I only have 500MB/month.
use gpsgate software which loads at boot, runs in background, finds gps on com7 and makes a virtual com port for it on com2 and distributes gps to any app ...go get destinator9 and maps and install and the thing works great!! ...all that stuff is found on this site.