Can the Bluetooth audio lag be fixed?
I guess not.
I think that too :-\ Every Android device I tested my Samsung HS 3000 with produced roughly the same amount of lag.
Seems odd to me that they can't fix this crap. I hate my iPad but at least the BT doesn't suck.
...maybe you ought to post this in the proper forum...Q&A?
andrawer said:
...maybe you ought to post this in the proper forum...Q&A?
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Maybe I won't and you can deal with the angst.
Bluetooth Lag
I had (and still have) the exact problem with my TF101. The only workaround I found was to use BSPlayer for video, which has an adjustable audio offset. +500ms was fine. An app that detects the type of BT headphone and automatically compensates for it would be good.
Squire-au said:
I had (and still have) the exact problem with my TF101. The only workaround I found was to use BSPlayer for video, which has an adjustable audio offset. +500ms was fine. An app that detects the type of BT headphone and automatically compensates for it would be good.
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My problem is I use my tablet to pair with my hearing aids and rely on the device for multiple uses; I lost most of my hearing from an RPG blast. The aids I use are made by Siemens and their bluetooth interface app is only made for android. This allows me to stream audio directly to the hearing aids without blasting the audio output to everyone around me. Video calls are generally much easier since I can lip read and visualize expresssions to understand the context of spoken words. When the audio lags the video the whole thing goes bad really quick. I was hoping for some easy fix but it doesn't appear that's gonna happen.
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i downloaded mangler from the market and joined my friends ventrilo server which is pretty cool.
one thing thats annoying me to hell is the sound quality. im using the klipsch s2m with mic and they said i sound like the mcd's person and kept on saying "would you like fries with that?" lol
i tried with the headsets mic first, then the phones mic and then other sets but they all sound the same. also did with wifi and 3g no difference.
any idea why its like that? is it the codec thats really crappy on the phone or the mangler app? i logged on vent through pc and phone and listened to it. it sounds just as bad if not worse than the recorded video
I don't think any of us have tested it with a wired mic/headset. We're not really that far in yet. However, have you tried with and without "force 8khz" option?
yep. tried both. tried every option available
And I assume it works fine without the headset. If so, you'll just have to wait until we get around to testing with the wired mic.
And just FYI, BlueTooth is impossible because it's not supported in Android (via the public API)
sorry for late reply. its still the same without the headset tho. with inline mic and with phones mic i still sound the same. i tried another vent app called ventriloid and i do sound a little bit better but the robotic sound is still there.
could it be the codecs?
im trying to figure out also if there is a fix for the recording audio as well.. like an external mic but everything i have found said that it doesnt work
Could it be some setting on your vent server? Or maybe you have a bad/high-latent 3G connection?
I've used the built-in mic a lot with Mangler, and the audio is just fine (even tested this myself by logging into Vent on my PC at the same time).
I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that it's the codec or your connection. The app might be auto-compressing your audio because it thinks you have low upstream bandwidth.
Also, are you by chance using a Froyo ROM? The AAC+ decoder is crap in it, so it's not a stretch to imagine that the encoder is also crap, and since AAC+ is such an efficient codec by bandwidth, it's easy to see why it would be chosen...
My handset upgrade is coming up and I will be jumping on WP7 after a year with Android. To be more specific, the HD7. I've pretty much crammed as much info about WP7 as possible right now, but there's still one thing I'm not sure about, and that's bluetooth AVRCP. I thinking about getting a pretty decent stereo system with bluetooth and comes with a remote and I wonder if I would be able to fully control the music in WP7.
I paired my samsung sbh600 with my focus last night, play/pause/volume/next track/previous track all worked no problem...sound quality was pretty decent too, though a graphic equalizer would really help
oh yeah, and they got plenty loud too
jmerrey,
have you tried videos? i also have the Focus and for music it seems to work, but for videos the audio does not come through bluetooth and AVRCP does not work either. same on the HTC Surround and LG Quantum. not sure if it's just my bluetooth device, Jabra BT3030, but it worked fine with a Samsung MP3 player and a Microsoft KIN.
Same Bluetooth issue here
Samsung Focus
AT&T
When connected to my Sony DR-BT22 headset, phone calls are fine, Zune is fine, but if I switch over to play Youtube videos, the sound will switch to the handset itself. I can't find a setting to change it. Anyone have any ideas?
Everything plays through the wired headphones without an issue when I connect that way.
Ok great, so no one is experiencing any bluetooth problems? Specifically AVRCP.
I had a Philips tapster SHB7110 and my HD7 couldn't see it. I had to sell it because it became useless. It paired well with my HD2.
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Ok great, so no one is experiencing any bluetooth problems? Specifically AVRCP.
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Me too. If you play videos in Zune, the phone only uses external speaker not the bluetooth. It's annoy MS needs to fix it.
Known issue: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/thread/789cef96-09d8-4903-b2db-72f003fdeee9
Has anyone figured out why high frequencies get garbled since the EG30 kernel? That's the last one I remember that did not garble. From what I've been told, the bluetooth stack is built into the kernel, not the ROM.
Could someone please clarify and perhaps offer a solution?
How about very low volume on the BT ? I paired my phone with the BT in my 2012 Ford (with SYNC) and the music plays perfectly, but I can't hear S#!T during a phone conversation...
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How about very low volume on the BT ? I paired my phone with the BT in my 2012 Ford (with SYNC) and the music plays perfectly, but I can't hear S#!T during a phone conversation...
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I have a 2011 Explorer with SYNC and if memory serves, it considers the BT music volume and in-call volume 2 separate things. Once a call is made, you have to turn up the volume again to get that where you want it. Once it's turned up, it stays that way.
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How about very low volume on the BT ? I paired my phone with the BT in my 2012 Ford (with SYNC) and the music plays perfectly, but I can't hear S#!T during a phone conversation...
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I'll try that but then I'll have to remember to turn it down when switching back to SiriusXM so that I dont blow my ears out.
I turned the media player volume down to 10 (as opposed to the normal 15) and it's still static on the high end.
Everything except cyanogen sucks as far as the bitpool goes and low bitpool makes bt sound like ****. I love android so much but I'm soooo disappointed in the amount of attention paid to Bluetooth sound. It's fine for audiobooks or podcasts but sucks for music.
Actually my son has a nexus s unrooted, maybe I should check that and see if music sounds OK. Maybe pure Android doesn't suck its just the touchwizs and senses of the world that make it terrible.
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Wow... I was debating getting a Bluetooth speaker today. Didn't realize there was an issue like this with our phone.
Thanks for the insight. I wonder if any dev could do anything about this.
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I have had a very different experience with in-car bluetooth audio. I just installed an iSimple expansion kit (uses the factory harness/plug and play) into my vehicle, and it sounds excellent! I have the phone volume turned all the way up, changing the level on the stereo instead. It seems to me that it isn't any quieter than XM, FM/AM, or CDs, and I like having all my music in Google Music and Pandora instead of the giant case of CDs I used to carry around. The call quality is average, better than OnStar if you've used it, worse than a call with good signal. The person on the other end sounds great, but I've heard that the driver always seems quieter than through the phone mic. My friends bluetooth audio in his Kia Soul does not sound as good as mine does, but the call quality is sometimes better.
Anyway, just my 2c. Cheers!
I have been using bluetooth audio and phone calls on stock rooted EL29 ROM with the Rogue Gunslinger kernel in both my car as well as a pair of headphones, and the audio comes through crystal clear. The car has a Kenwood KDC-BT945U head unit that supports A2DP and AVRCP, as well as hands-free calling, and I have no problems with either calls or music streaming. In the home, I have a Logitech bluetooth wireless speaker adapter plugged into my AVR, and it also sounds perfectly clear. There is never a hint of hissing, popping, dropouts, etc. I suggest that anyone who has bluetooth issues try my rom/kernel setup. If it does not work, you can blame the Ford or whatever bluetooth setup you have because the phone itself is perfectly good at bluetooth audio streaming. Maybe not out of the box, but with my setup I have no problems. For the record, I have high-end (near audiophile grade) audio equipment in both my car and home, so I know what good music sounds like. One caveat though, don't expect bluetooth streaming to sound as good as a wired connection. There is quite a bit of compression going on, but the difference is barely discernable in the car, probably due to the road noise. In the home though I have much higher quality speakers, and I can perceive a larger difference, but unless I'm listening to classical music in FLAC format, it's negligible.
Bluetooth audio on MyFord Touch is flawless..
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I have noticed the crappy quality as well.... but here is some good news... they fixed it with ICS. I'm currently running the FB17 leaked build, and the quality is PERFECT. I'm an audiophile, so I pay close attention to the sound quality. and am very very happy the addressed this issue in ICS.
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I have noticed the crappy quality as well.... but here is some good news... they fixed it with ICS. I'm currently running the FB17 leaked build, and the quality is PERFECT. I'm an audiophile, so I pay close attention to the sound quality. and am very very happy the addressed this issue in ICS.
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I have to agree, I have uConnect in my new Durango and was pissed when BT streaming did not work (it sounded like a constant pause/unpause and fastforward all at once). I just by happenstance tried it on FB17 and FB21 and it was perfect! Although the builds are not great yet so I went back to Calk 2.9 and itchin for a great ICS build to get that back!
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Bluetooth audio on MyFord Touch is flawless..
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The BT sounds very well for music but during a phone conversation, the volume of the other party is way too low. If you were to increase the car's volume to hear the other person, it will decrease your microphone's sensitivity to a point where the other person cannot understand what you're saying (to prevent feedback)... It may be my FORD SYNC, but it worked beautifully on my old Blackberry. I will wait for ICS update and hope they addressed this problem.
Thanks!
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I have noticed the crappy quality as well.... but here is some good news... they fixed it with ICS. I'm currently running the FB17 leaked build, and the quality is PERFECT. I'm an audiophile, so I pay close attention to the sound quality. and am very very happy the addressed this issue in ICS.
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I sure hope you're right! It's so much nicer to use my steering wheel controls then to reach over to my windshield-mounted phone and push the tiny on-screen buttons with Google Music. I'm also an audiophile and couldn't take the low quality sound of BT-Audio. Thanks for the hope!
I was on Paranoid Android 2.16, I used the Bluetooth music and calls in my 2012 Civic Si and sound quality was perfect. I switched to FI27 to give it a try and the Bluetooth sound quality went to crap. Has anyone looked further into the kernel theory? Anybody know a good kernel to use with latest update? That can be pushed with Odin? Thanks for any updates or suggestions.
Just wanted to post this set-up because it works pretty smoothly:
picture link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4K7YJ77a6K4N1hyRUo4VXM4Q3c/edit?usp=sharing
This box basically creates a wifi network and then sends (lossless) audio out via an 1/8 in. audio output:
http://www.amazon.com/iReceiver-Wi-Fi-Music-Receiver-Extender/dp/B00I0Z427E
I'm using Airstream (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kineticgamestudios.airtunes.android), which I've found works better than AirAudio.
I'm also running a Tasker sequence, so when the Wifi box boots up, the Nexus 5 automatically opens my music app and sets the system volume to an appropriate level.
All in all, it's pretty smooth.
I think it's worthwhile for at least two reasons: 1) you can charge your phone without getting that ugly interference with an audio cable plugged in. 2) it's much louder than the output of the nexus 5 itself, so it's basically like having an amp.
How is the audio quality compared to BT?
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How is the audio quality compared to BT?
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Bluetooth sound is highly compressed and the audio quality is slightly degraded. the advantage to wifi is that it is basically lossless.
for more:
http://wrensound.com/should-my-wireless-audio-system-use-bluetooth-or-wifi/
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Bluetooth sound is highly compressed and the audio quality is slightly degraded. the advantage to wifi is that it is basically lossless.
for more:
http://wrensound.com/should-my-wireless-audio-system-use-bluetooth-or-wifi/
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I was looking for more of a subjective comparison. I've tried both BT and wired audio side-by-side in my car, and while I can hear a difference, it's not enough of one to convince me to give up the convenience of BT. If you've compared BT and wifi directly and find them to be dramatically different, then this solution might be perfect for me.
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I was looking for more of a subjective comparison. I've tried both BT and wired audio side-by-side in my car, and while I can hear a difference, it's not enough of one to convince me to give up the convenience of BT. If you've compared BT and wifi directly and find them to be dramatically different, then this solution might be perfect for me.
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Well I haven't really used Bluetooth in my car for music, only for phone calls. But I would imagine that the Wifi sound quality difference would be audible. There was a noticeable difference between using the Nexus 5 headphone output into my car stereo aux input and streaming from the Nexus 5 to the AirMobi box into the same aux input. The Wifi sound was louder and had much more low-end.
I should warn you, though, that the AirMobi is configured in such a way that you can't access mobile data when you are connected to the wifi network. I don't really mind this, because incoming calls still come through; but you can't, for example, check your email while connected to the AirMobi. If having access to mobile data while streaming wifi audio is important to you, there is this option, which is more expensive and a bit clunkier, but will fix this problem:
http://airenabler.qnology.com/
Looks interesting.
Could you please try using the AllCast app and check if that works with this device?
I've never streamed music over wifi before, is it possible to set this as the default playback device? I'm also getting a wireless charger for my car, I'd like to be able to have the phone automatically play music over that wifi thing when it's wirelessly charging if possible.
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I've never streamed music over wifi before, is it possible to set this as the default playback device? I'm also getting a wireless charger for my car, I'd like to be able to have the phone automatically play music over that wifi thing when it's wirelessly charging if possible.
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If you have a rooted phone, you can send all phone audio via wifi using an app like AirStream or AirAudio. That's how I have it set up.
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Looks interesting.
Could you please try using the AllCast app and check if that works with this device?
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Just tested this. Yes, it works with AllCast.
Hello. I change phones alot and have noticed that some phones(all android) have better bluetooth playback than others.
I had a oneplus 7 pro before this phone and the bluetooth quality to my truck was great and had no issues but with this phone the highs sounds scratchy or like if the speaker is bad. But if i connect it with a wire connection it sounds great. Everything with the 2 phones is the same. On both i was using the galaxy watch and pretty much the same apps. On a previous phone the note 8 i had the same issue but it was a different car. Seems like its the way samsung handles bluetooth.
Has anyone had this issue? If so was there a fix?
Thanks
make sure not on mic
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make sure not on mic
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What do you mean?
The only two things I think about is the codec used that may be different across devices, and the Bluetooth settings that sync the phones volume with the headset (the differences are noticeable).
Since no DAC is used in Bluetooth, I don't think it can comes from them, for a same headset.
On Samsung phones you should run the adapt sound process. Try this.
I tried with the sync volume off too and no improvement.
I looked for the adapt sound and my phone doesn't have that setting. Or is it something different?
It's in Sounds and Vibration 》 Advanced Sound settings 》Sound Quality and effects 》 Adapt sound
You have to do this in a quiet place and ensure to answer honestly. If you can't hear the beeping press no.
After doing this the sound quality is night and day difference.
Ok found it. Ill play with it a bit. Thanks
I've had issues sometimes with audio being piped through the "Calls" Bluetooth channel versus the "Audio" channel so worth checking as the quality is obviously night and day.
I also like enabling Dolby Atmos on my Note 10+ for music so worth playing with too. Additionally, I recently found Samsung's Sound Assistant app which let's you customize a bunch of sound settings so worth checking out as well:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.soundassistant
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I've had issues sometimes with audio being piped through the "Calls" Bluetooth channel versus the "Audio" channel so worth checking as the quality is obviously night and day.
I also like enabling Dolby Atmos on my Note 10+ for music so worth playing with too. Additionally, I recently found Samsung's Sound Assistant app which let's you customize a bunch of sound settings so worth checking out as well:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.soundassistant
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Is there an easy way to tell if the audio is going through the call channel?
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Is there an easy way to tell if the audio is going through the call channel?
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Easiest is probably just uncheck calls in your phones BT settings for your truck (and make sure audio is enabled). If the sound is still not great then this isn't the issue.
Sorry to respond to an old thread, but I was wondering if any of this fixed the OP's problem. I followed all the recommendations here and on other threads but have not been able to solve my recent Bluetooth audio problem. The sound has been terrible lately.
Same issue here on my s10+. When playing any audio in my car via BT i hear the distortion/hissing noise especially when the song has a higher treble frequency.
I have just about tried all fixes i could find on Google, and no luck.
When connecting to my ear buds (Jabra Elite 65t) it disappears and checked in developer mode that it supports to AAC for BT Codecs.
But when connecting to the car it reverts to SBC.
The issue clearly lies on Samsungs side, as my brother has a Huawei p30 Pro, also has bluetooth 5 and plays amazingly well in all aspects (Bass-Mids-Treble).
I know I'm posting this almost a year later, but i am desperately looking for a fix.
SN. I have recently updated my phone to Android 10, despite all the complaints to Samsung from many users... Sadly this issue has not being fixed on my side.
From what i see online, people have given up on Samsung and opted for Rooting their Samsungs and installing Viper4Andriod.
Has any one done this and can confirm that it fixed the issue?