[Q] SuperCID, S-Off, lagfix questions - HTC One X

Hey guys, I recently purchased a HTC One X and have a few questions that I need clarified. I've done my research already but couldn't find much, so I hope it's OK for me to ask it here.
First of all, apparently there's no method to achieve S-OFF and SuperCID on the international HTC One X running Tegra 3, is that correct?
Secondly, some people reported their HTC One X having lags on the home screen, and were able to fix it (I think temporarily) using the "LagFix (fstrim)" tool. My question is, is that a hardware problem in the HTC One X, where I'll eventually have to get it replaced? Because this seemed like the eMMC bug on the Nexus devices, because of a bad chip or something. They eventually had to get it replaced, and the fixes available were only temporarily, they only slowed down the lag deterioration but they didn't fix the problem completely. I'm wondering if this is the same for our HTC One X?
And finally, say if I have an older HBOOT, will it be fine if I simply update to a newer HBOOT? Would I require SuperCID to do that or can I simply update it without any prerequisites?
Thanks.

chaoscreater said:
Hey guys, I recently purchased a HTC One X and have a few questions that I need clarified. I've done my research already but couldn't find much, so I hope it's OK for me to ask it here.
First of all, apparently there's no method to achieve S-OFF and SuperCID on the international HTC One X running Tegra 3, is that correct?
Secondly, some people reported their HTC One X having lags on the home screen, and were able to fix it (I think temporarily) using the "LagFix (fstrim)" tool. My question is, is that a hardware problem in the HTC One X, where I'll eventually have to get it replaced? Because this seemed like the eMMC bug on the Nexus devices, because of a bad chip or something. They eventually had to get it replaced, and the fixes available were only temporarily, they only slowed down the lag deterioration but they didn't fix the problem completely. I'm wondering if this is the same for our HTC One X?
And finally, say if I have an older HBOOT, will it be fine if I simply update to a newer HBOOT? Would I require SuperCID to do that or can I simply update it without any prerequisites?
Thanks.
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1. No method to achieve S-OFF and SuperCID!
2. No it's not hardware problem on the HOX!
3. No you don't need S-OFF to upgrade your HBOOT!
All this question is answеred in other treads! Use search function

Just to clarify, does that mean I cannot use SuperCID and S-off to change my endeavoru HOX to S-off? If I remember correctly, originally my phone is on S-off. But I flashed a wrong kernel which belong to ICS version and somehow it change itself to S-on.

chaoscreater said:
Hey guys, I recently purchased a HTC One X and have a few questions that I need clarified. I've done my research already but couldn't find much, so I hope it's OK for me to ask it here.
First of all, apparently there's no method to achieve S-OFF and SuperCID on the international HTC One X running Tegra 3, is that correct?
Secondly, some people reported their HTC One X having lags on the home screen, and were able to fix it (I think temporarily) using the "LagFix (fstrim)" tool. My question is, is that a hardware problem in the HTC One X, where I'll eventually have to get it replaced? Because this seemed like the eMMC bug on the Nexus devices, because of a bad chip or something. They eventually had to get it replaced, and the fixes available were only temporarily, they only slowed down the lag deterioration but they didn't fix the problem completely. I'm wondering if this is the same for our HTC One X?
And finally, say if I have an older HBOOT, will it be fine if I simply update to a newer HBOOT? Would I require SuperCID to do that or can I simply update it without any prerequisites?
Thanks.
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The lagfix is to correct a similar problem to the Nexus where the controller is not TRIM-ing properly (or at all). If you transfer and delete tons of stuff on a regular basis it will drop the performance. It doesn't damage the NAND however. There are more than enough read/write cycles in it's lifetime to lagfix it every now and again and still use it for years. Personally i've never had to use lagfix but I always leave slack space.
As for your hboot...you can upgrade hboot without S-Off no problem PROVIDED there is an hboot compatible with your CID.
ronaldtzh said:
Just to clarify, does that mean I cannot use SuperCID and S-off to change my endeavoru HOX to S-off? If I remember correctly, originally my phone is on S-off. But I flashed a wrong kernel which belong to ICS version and somehow it change itself to S-on.
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There is NO SupedCID or S-Off method for the HOX. None.
You can buy it that way and that is IT.
I have also NEVER heard of any time an S-Off device has been switched to S-On by flashing a kernel or anything else. It has nothing at all whatsoever to do with kernel or ROM so flashing one would NOT change security.

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Question about hboot, downgrade fron 6.93 to lower

Hi, I'm a complete noob to modifying smartphones and my knowledge is very limited.
I wish to install a custom rom to my HTC Desire.
One of the reasons is that the device is overheating and falling into a reboot loop and I beleive that to be a software glitch and hope this would help (not sure, but could be).
Anyway, I've found a really nice tutorial made by linkslovesandroid, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 and have come to a stop at the very beginning since it says:
"**This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***"
I've looked up my hboot and it's 6.93.
I presume that it will not work then.
So...can I modify my hboot, if yes how, is there another workaround or another tutorial (understandable for my level of knowledge which is close to 0) I may follow?
Please help!
if you will check hboot(power and vol -)/fastboot(power+back) screen it will say S-OFF
so you don't need to do anything just access recovery and flash any rom you like just keep in mind you have to adhere any developer requirements
RagnarokCosmos said:
One of the reasons is that the device is overheating and falling into a reboot loop and I beleive that to be a software glitch and hope this would help (not sure, but could be).
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The reason the device is overheating and rebooting is due to a very well known hardware fault with the Bravo. Changing ROMs won't help.
Thanks to the both of you.
Indeed it is S-off..
I've researched the matter further and I fear it is as you say, a hardware error, there are numerous reports about faulty motherboards if that is what you mean.
I got the device 2nd hand so no warranty or anything, hope it's not too expensive to fix it, although if it is a motherboard issue, I'm afraid of the price.
Does anyone know aprox. how much does it cost to fix this?
No idea. Ebay is your best bet.
RagnarokCosmos said:
"**This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***"
I've looked up my hboot and it's 6.93.
I presume that it will not work then.
So...can I modify my hboot, if yes how, is there another workaround or another tutorial (understandable for my level of knowledge which is close to 0) I may follow?
Please help!
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My desire has same hboot. I made S-OFF with revolutionary method (check alpharev webpage).
Once you are S-OFF you can change your hboot just by downloading the hboot image from alpharev. Rename zip to PB99IMG.zip and place it at your sd-card. Reboot on bootloader, zip will be detected and you will be asked if you want to apple update, answer yes. And that's all, enjoy your new hboot.

Urgent questions about Root + S-off

Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:
benno4403 said:
Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:
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root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah
Zinta said:
root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah
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hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
benno4403 said:
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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The bit where you can make it look like you never had a custom ROM and recovery installed.
On htcdev.com, there is an unlock method, but HTC have been known to invalidate their warranty for unlocked phones.
Your statutory rights are not affected, but it you'd have to go back to the retailer with problems (at least in the UK)
benno4403 said:
hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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When son you have to flash the boot.IMG for the ROMs using the computer. That means every time you want to flash a new ROM you have to use a computer also.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:
benno4403 said:
First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:
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Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
Tingelholm said:
Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay. thanks
I hope we might see a S-OFF for the one x in the near future then!
so to be clear, when I receive my phone tomorrow and want to install a custom ROM (for example android revolution)
I need to:
1. Root the phone
2. Install a custom recovery (like clockworkmod)
3. and then what?
because the description in the Android Revolution ROM topics states:
" You need:
HTC One X unlocked with htcdev.com (S-ON) or S-OFF <-- but I do not have to unlock it via htcdev to be able to install it?
ClockworkMod Recovery or 4EXT Touch Recovery (coming soon)
Firmware package from downloads section" <-- and does he mean by firmware package just ROM or?
sorry for all these questions but I am new to the One X and this other procedures
Thanks for the help and patience
You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).
BenPope said:
You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).
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Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.
benno4403 said:
Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.
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Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
Tingelholm said:
Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay thanks, I will check it out.
...or u take a look at THIS
Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.
PhoenixFx said:
Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.
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I think that only warranty connected with software not hardware
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX
Okay guys just received my one x.. so some of you suggest to wait before unlocking, rooting and flashing? (Just to test hardware or wait for soff?)
So are there many 'problem' phones?
Thanks guys
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app
I modded mine to my liking almost immediately, never looked back.
EDIT: Nevermind: got the token to work was something on the HTCDEV website
whynot66 said:
Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX
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It's like this: There are statutory rights. In addition to that there is a warranty. HTC are perfectly within their right to cancel a warranty, but your statutory rights continue.
In the UK, in practice, your rights are with the retailer, unless you purchased it on credit, in which case they stand with the finance company (in theory, but as a matter of practicality, hit up the retailer first).
Oh, IANAL.

Please help.

Hello everybody, I'm new here. I have a really big problem with my HTC Wildfire. It's been taken off Vodafone network and I had some problems with it. I have it for two years now and I had problems with software generally. It bugs a lot, a lot of apps can't be used or are very slow and I decided to take it to put new software, because I didn't want to risk to screw something up by myself. The worker then told me that he can't install any other version of software except the stock version. Can you tell me what to do?
aiimshock said:
Hello everybody, I'm new here. I have a really big problem with my HTC Wildfire. It's been taken off Vodafone network and I had some problems with it. I have it for two years now and I had problems with software generally. It bugs a lot, a lot of apps can't be used or are very slow and I decided to take it to put new software, because I didn't want to risk to screw something up by myself. The worker then told me that he can't install any other version of software except the stock version. Can you tell me what to do?
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OK firstly do you mean network unlocked so that other Sim cards can work with it?
Secondly most repair places will only ever flash stock firmware. But here at xda developers we share the tools and knowledge to do it yourself first things first though. Can you pull the battery out of your wildfire. Place it back in, and then while holding down volume down, also hold power. You should be met with a white screen stating hboot: blablablabla ect. Can you post what hboot version you have, of it says s-on or s-off and also if the screen says buzz or Bee at the top. With that info I can help you place custom firmware on your htc wildfire
heavy_metal_man said:
OK firstly do you mean network unlocked so that other Sim cards can work with it?
Secondly most repair places will only ever flash stock firmware. But here at xda developers we share the tools and knowledge to do it yourself first things first though. Can you pull the battery out of your wildfire. Place it back in, and then while holding down volume down, also hold power. You should be met with a white screen stating hboot: blablablabla ect. Can you post what hboot version you have, of it says s-on or s-off and also if the screen says buzz or Bee at the top. With that info I can help you place custom firmware on your htc wildfire
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Yes, so that any other SIM card can work, but every time I power it up, first goes the HTC logo and then Vodafone logo turns up, with its apps like 360 shop and 360 updates.
It says:
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_20aa
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Also, it says S-ON, and BUZZ on the top.
Thank you in advance for your help.
aiimshock said:
Yes, so that any other SIM card can work, but every time I power it up, first goes the HTC logo and then Vodafone logo turns up, with its apps like 360 shop and 360 updates.
It says:
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_20aa
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Also, it says S-ON, and BUZZ on the top.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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OK you have 2 options either you can look for a device called an xtc clip, in phone repair shops ect. This device will use hardware to s-off your phone and then you can run any ruu that you want. The ruu will give you a de-branded rom the free, software solution will require you to look for a tutorial this section to downgrade your hboot to 1.01.0001, once you have downgraded to that hboot you can follow the s-off thread by using revolutionary to remove the security. Once that is done you can add a custom recovery, and then flash a custom rom to your phone which will be de-branded, faster and have tweaks I suggest flashing rempuzzle.
heavy_metal_man said:
OK you have 2 options either you can look for a device called an xtc clip, in phone repair shops ect. This device will use hardware to s-off your phone and then you can run any ruu that you want. The ruu will give you a de-branded rom the free, software solution will require you to look for a tutorial this section to downgrade your hboot to 1.01.0001, once you have downgraded to that hboot you can follow the s-off thread by using revolutionary to remove the security. Once that is done you can add a custom recovery, and then flash a custom rom to your phone which will be de-branded, faster and have tweaks I suggest flashing rempuzzle.
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Thanks for everything, and one more question.
Will the downgrading and installing custom rom harm my phone in any way like overheating, some things not working like camera or something like that? I would like to put cyanogen mod 7 on my wildfire and I need to know will everything work properly? Or do you have any advice on which rom is the best for the wildfire?
aiimshock said:
Thanks for everything, and one more question.
Will the downgrading and installing custom rom harm my phone in any way like overheating, some things not working like camera or something like that? I would like to put cyanogen mod 7 on my wildfire and I need to know will everything work properly? Or do you have any advice on which rom is the best for the wildfire?
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No no problems will occur.
You can flash cm7 without errors.
Thats what a recovery is for.
Welcome to development.
'BAZINGA!'
aiimshock said:
Thanks for everything, and one more question.
Will the downgrading and installing custom rom harm my phone in any way like overheating, some things not working like camera or something like that? I would like to put cyanogen mod 7 on my wildfire and I need to know will everything work properly? Or do you have any advice on which rom is the best for the wildfire?
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you should not run into any issues as long as you dont drastically overclock your custom kernel. then you could maybe damage the phone but its not likely. it wouold probably just boot loop. ie only get to the boot animation and just repeat constantly. some users have issues with gps when they jump to cyanogenmod 7 but its easily fixed and the vast majority of people dont get that issue. cyanogenmod 7 is very very stable for this device and i think is the best custom rom level as it is different, stable, fast and has had a lot of support over the years
You can look for a program called HTCsupertool.exe. It will root and S-OFF the phone for free (you might have an internet explorer window pop up just close it).
Thanks a lot everyone, I made it, it works on 2.3.7 now
Do you have any advice about what frequency should I put it on and what kind of governor should I use?
And are there any useful apps I could download now?
i would recommend the governor smartassv2 and the minimum freq. to the lowest and the maximum 748. Also tick the settings for reboot, or you will lose them.
With cm7 you don't really need apps to improve it, as cm7 has most of it in the settings.
Thanks guys, you saved my phone.
One more question, is there any way I can create the menu style like on Samsung devices? Instead of scrolling up and down, to scroll left and right, if you understand what am I trying to tell you.

[Q] Help needed for my new HTC One X

Hi all,
I'm from India. Just yesterday, I had my new HTC One X. I bought it on eBay and was told that it was an imported mobile. I wanted to root, so I did some research and rooted my HOX with flashing recovery and SuperSu. But then I didn't relock my bootloader, as I didn't know whether to do it or not.
After rooting, when I go to bootloader, it says "Unlocked", but it's S-ON. I didn't really understand how it's S-ON even after rooting. It's currently on the stock ROM that it came with, 4.0.3 ICS.
I want to flash a JB ROM on it, but I'm so confused by the new things I'm seeing in the forums, like CID, HBOOT versions, that I'm a little hesitant to do it unless I understand these whole concepts.
If I get an official JB update from HTC, can I go ahead with it, or will it have some adverse impact on the HOX?
I did some researching on CID, and I checked the CID of my device, it's showing as HTC__Y13.
I have had a great experience at XDA with the previous smartphone I had (HTC Desire HD). But when I look into HTC ONE X, I find it very confusing.
I would really appreciate all the help I can get. If there are any specific information you guys want for the HOX I have, please ask and I'll post it into the forum. Thank you all, guys, in advance.
blinkash said:
Hi all,
I'm from India. Just yesterday, I had my new HTC One X. I bought it on eBay and was told that it was an imported mobile. I wanted to root, so I did some research and rooted my HOX with flashing recovery and SuperSu. But then I didn't relock my bootloader, as I didn't know whether to do it or not.
After rooting, when I go to bootloader, it says "Unlocked", but it's S-ON. I didn't really understand how it's S-ON even after rooting. It's currently on the stock ROM that it came with, 4.0.3 ICS.
I want to flash a JB ROM on it, but I'm so confused by the new things I'm seeing in the forums, like CID, HBOOT versions, that I'm a little hesitant to do it unless I understand these whole concepts.
If I get an official JB update from HTC, can I go ahead with it, or will it have some adverse impact on the HOX?
I did some researching on CID, and I checked the CID of my device, it's showing as HTC__Y13.
I have had a great experience at XDA with the previous smartphone I had (HTC Desire HD). But when I look into HTC ONE X, I find it very confusing.
I would really appreciate all the help I can get. If there are any specific information you guys want for the HOX I have, please ask and I'll post it into the forum. Thank you all, guys, in advance.
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First things first, rooting doesn't automatically s-off your device. Currently there is no way to s-off the HTC One X, unless it comes already s-off (lucky few).
Cid is your carriers branding. If you're currently on the stock rom your easiest safest way would be to check for an ota in:
Settings > about.
If not you could try looking for your firmware.zip on xda, a quick search should bring the thread up.
Sent from my HTC One X

[Q] Dumb question about firmware & S-OFF

I've been rooting and flashing ROMs on Android devices for years, but I'm new to HTC (coming from the Galaxy Nexus/toro). On all my other devices, I've merely unlocked the bootloader, rooted, installed custom recovery, and flashed ROMs (e.g. CM11) to stay "current." I'm getting the sense that the M8 doesn't quite work like that (but I'm not sure).
I'm currently rooted, have TWRP, and S-ON (more on that in a minute). I've been using Venom's Viper One ROM since I got the phone in early July. Venom just released a new version of the ROM, but that has led to my realization that HTC and/or the M8 is a different animal that my other Android devices.
I've combed through countless threads trying to figure this out but to no avail--so I figured I'd ask it here. Do I have to be S-OFF to keep my firmware up to date? If so, is there any other way besides Sunshine to obtain S-OFF on the T-mobile M8? I tried Firewater and for whatever reason it reports it can't and never will work on my device.
It's not that I mind paying the $25 for Sunshine, but I'm not 100% clear why I need S-OFF since none of my other (non-HTC) devices required such a thing. I'd be willing to purchase it if I for sure needed it, but I'm confused if it is required to keep my rooted M8 "current" so I can keep on flashing ROMs without incident (the new version of Viper One supposedly doesn't work as well on the non-current firmware which I have).
If anyone here can ELI5 (Explain Like I'm 5) about S-OFF and whether or not I need it I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
zerozed99 said:
I've been rooting and flashing ROMs on Android devices for years, but I'm new to HTC (coming from the Galaxy Nexus/toro). On all my other devices, I've merely unlocked the bootloader, rooted, installed custom recovery, and flashed ROMs (e.g. CM11) to stay "current." I'm getting the sense that the M8 doesn't quite work like that (but I'm not sure).
I'm currently rooted, have TWRP, and S-ON (more on that in a minute). I've been using Venom's Viper One ROM since I got the phone in early July. Venom just released a new version of the ROM, but that has led to my realization that HTC and/or the M8 is a different animal that my other Android devices.
I've combed through countless threads trying to figure this out but to no avail--so I figured I'd ask it here. Do I have to be S-OFF to keep my firmware up to date? If so, is there any other way besides Sunshine to obtain S-OFF on the T-mobile M8? I tried Firewater and for whatever reason it reports it can't and never will work on my device.
It's not that I mind paying the $25 for Sunshine, but I'm not 100% clear why I need S-OFF since none of my other (non-HTC) devices required such a thing. I'd be willing to purchase it if I for sure needed it, but I'm confused if it is required to keep my rooted M8 "current" so I can keep on flashing ROMs without incident (the new version of Viper One supposedly doesn't work as well on the non-current firmware which I have).
If anyone here can ELI5 (Explain Like I'm 5) about S-OFF and whether or not I need it I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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With HTC devices like our m8, s-off is needed in order to change firmwares and radios manually. It is very different than with nexus devices, that are definitely the easiest to tinker with. I paid the $25 for sunshine (firewater wouldn't work for me either) and it was so easy I can't even put it in words. Takes like 2 minutes. I recommend it. S-off makes a huge difference. But only if you know what youre doing. Read up on the dangers of obtaining s-off before you do it. Entering the wrong command in a terminal session with s-off could lead to a very expensive paperweight.
Sent from my M8

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