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Why not separate forum for each ROM

Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.

papadi said:
Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.
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Mate... i think that cant be applied because there may be 10's of roms then we will need 10's of forums. Its ok with topics i think... they just need good cleaning from useless posts.

And what is the problem with having 10s of forums? If the forum framework is flexible this shouldn't be much burden for the administrators.

yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p

Garmin said:
yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p
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I would also recommend Tags. Aren't they supported?

Take this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751
How can somebody find in it if there is the answer that he is looking form. This thread has more than 2500 replies! This is not a thread! It's a history book.

i hear what you're sayin but...
that's not even a ROM thread! And he (Ikarus) has taken the trouble to write up FAQs, manuals, etc, so except for troubleshooting IMO you hardly need to look through the whole thread,
This is not a thread! It's a history book.
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but that's a nice line...made me smile at least...
regarding a forum for each ROM, it would be a nice idea, but is there really space, or a real need for this? I mean, I hate looking back at a latest ROM thread and seeing 20 pages to trawl through, but what can you do... I guess I agree with WizeMan. If there is anything that can be done, perhaps harsher moderation (e.g. of newbie's questions) in the ROM threads would help.
...or...if people really did want new forums for ROMs, one for each major cooker? rather than each individual ROM...still don't think that it's worth it/do-able though

I believe seperating ROMS and forum will add more chaos. For example, there is like 100's of ROMS released for each device like hermes, wizard etc. Some of the ROM released might not be good, and hence it might be discontinued. Also with the way people are porting ROM a new OS version is released almost daily, and the chefs, start their job again with the new OS version....so having to seperate ROM forum will add more confusion...(this is my opinion)
Also, use google to search for what you need, I agree you cannot go through the 2500 replies, but some of them do have valuable information.

That's a good idea...

Sorry, but that is probably the craziest thing I have heard. Do you even know how many ROMS are out there? This forum is huge as it is. If they started making new forums for every ROM, then you would have nothing less than 200 forums minimum.
The key is to include a "Thank You" feature for every thread. The biggest problem we have here is noobs and even a lot os senior members posting THANK YOU and I'LL TEST IT OUT messages in the threads. If you actually look at the amount of useful messages in the threads, they are quite minimal as opposed to all this unnecessary chatter.
There are a lot of forums that include this "THANK YOU" feature that I mentioned. If you want to thank the author of the thread, all you do is click on a THANK YOU button and your name gets added to a THANK YOU section in the same thread. That way everything is kept clean and messages are posted only when you have something to contribute, discuss or have a problem.
Check out the thread below... you'll have a much better idea of what i'm talking about. Also, maybe we should make this more visible. If all of us start putting this in our Signatures, then members will take notice and if there is enough of noise, then the admins will take notice and we can move towards a cleaner and more functional XDA-dev.
Thank You Threads

In my oppinion this is a difficult idea to be applied. The most simple way we can wish the moderator give a list of rom and then stick them, so anybody know where is the newer rom, stable rom, or in progress. But actually there is a rule from the rom maker, they use some order of versions which they build, so anybody know when the rom is composed Thank them for the great works.

[Q] Why did "The Ultimate Droid" ROM thread get shut down!

Why was this thread closed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834623
Usually when a mod closes it they always have the last post and have some sort of explanation as to why it is closed.

gqstatus0685 said:
Why was this thread closed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834623
Usually when a mod closes it they always have the last post and have some sort of explanation as to why it is closed.
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MOD EDIT: Removed link requiring registration to download, per rule 11
read much ?

It looks like they were looking for a reason to shut him down out of some spite.
Secondly you don't have to post a smart ass comment. I understand you're shielded behind your monitor and keyboard but that doesn't mean you have to act like a jerk.
There are plenty of ROM threads with members posting stuff they shouldn't have posted. They could have simply edited the offenders post or did a temporary ban. Anyone else care to chime in?

gqstatus0685 said:
Anyone else care to chime in?
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I didn't know the thread got closed but I think its appropriate to do so.
Leaving past drama in the past I still think its wrong for someone to post a link/thread on XDA that intends to direct traffic away from XDA, requiring registration on another website in order to enjoy the author's work. If DD wanted to be part of the XDA community then he should post and, to some degree, support his work ON XDA.

I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.

That thread was hijacked with bickering back and fourth anyway.

nukedukem said:
I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.
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lmao......

So what... the Rom rocked.

Just register at his forum, that's what I did. I have been running the rom since day one and it is the best rom I think I have ever used. There are a few bugs here but I use it everyday and love it. Google search "the ultimate droid evo" and it's the first link.

I didn't see anyone actually answer your question.. the second time the thread was closed was because the rom contains swype.

nukedukem said:
I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.
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LMAO! Thats too funny! Makes sense...(no pun)

...and now the 2.1 thread has been locked in the EVO forum. Yet, identical threads in the Desire and Motorola forums are still open. Mod(s) please explain this?

jobryan26 said:
...and now the 2.1 thread has been locked in the EVO forum. Yet, identical threads in the Desire and Motorola forums are still open. Mod(s) please explain this?
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Are you freaking kidding me! I just went to the development section and the thread is gone. This is getting really stupid.
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It was shut down the first time because it linked another sign up site to download it. Second time because it included warez. Third time, may have been due to warez(ex fancy widgets) or maybe even because of the $2 monthly fee for nighties. Hell it may have just been to all the crying the tread seem to bring.

gqstatus0685 said:
Are you freaking kidding me! I just went to the development section and the thread is gone. This is getting really stupid.
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Here is where the thread was.. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849986 which now the link redirects you to the "Forum & Marketplace Rules". It was stated in the subject line that the thread was not in compliance with #8
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8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
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Here is the currently still open thread in the Desire forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849992 which is an exact copy of the page which was locked.
This is getting ridiculous....
The Ultimate Droid 2.1.0
THIS IS NOT MY WORK! This is an AOSP rom brought to you by Blackdroid. If you like his work, PLEASE donate.
The forums no longer require membership to download. Additionally, in order to comply, Swype has been removed from the rom.
The Ultimate Droid 2.1.0 can be downloaded from HERE
The Ultimate Droid 2.1.0 Changelog:
- New popup changelog on startup (anderweb/blackdroid)
- New updated themed with images from gingerbread (blackdroid)
- Added new launcher (new customized version of adw with new features, anderweb/blackdroid)
- Added option to turn toggle overscroll and change weight of effect (rmcc)
- Reverted to 1.0.0 Phone UI untill updates are made to new UI. (Will be send out as and update)
- Newer more customizable live wallpapers (kmobs - make sure to donate)
- Updated all apps on the Ultimate Droid Servers
- Fixes for camera contious focus (droid)
- Updated Overhauled music app
- Updated News and Weather
- Updated Google CarHome
- Updated Google Talk
- Updated Marketplace
- Updated Google Maps
- New Kernel for Inc (cyanogen)
- Fixes for bluetooth
If you like this ROM and would like to help further development:
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE DEVELOPER!
A donation link can be found HERE
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The cached link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...wthread.php?t=849986&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
So let me get this right... because the OP posted "If you like this ROM and would like to help further developmentLEASE DO NOT FEED THE DEVELOPER! A donation link can be found HERE" outside of his/her signature this caused the thread to get locked and it's not even the OP's rom??? Not sure I understand how #8 even applies to the thread since the rom wasn't the OP's and he was trying to stay in compliance with rule #12
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
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I mean com'on it's not like the OP hacked a phone (which is illegal), stole the the UI off the phone aka: "porting" (like HTC Sense, Acer Liquid, or etc which ARE NOT open source therefore "illegal" as they are covered by copyright as stated in you HTC Sense software menu>settings>about phone>legal information>HTC legal>
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Copyright
Certain software contained in this device is contributed or developed by HTC Corporation
Copyright @ [2006-2010] HTC Corportation
All Rights Reserved.
The works ("Works") herein refer to the software developed or owned by the HTC Corporation ("HTC") and not separately released under the terms of an open source software license. The information contained in the Works is the exclusive property of HTC. HTC grants the legal user of this device the right to use the Works solely within the scope of the legitimate operation of the device. No further right is granted under this license including but not limited to, distribution, reproduction, modification, and transmission. Any other usage shall be subject to the written consent of HTC
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Which means nearly EVERY developer here is direct violation of rule #6 ("Do not post warez") of the site unless someone has posted a copy of the authorization from HTC to redistribute their software. Yes, I use custom ported roms like most of xda, and I fully support advancing development of the mobile platform. My lack of understanding is not over this, but over nitpicking "some" developers and using rules when it fits ones specific agenda. Whatever agenda that might be. I am not here to start a war with admins or mods, but to get a more clear understanding of intent. It seems not only unclear to myself but to others as well. Thanks John

bwcorvus said:
It was shut down the first time because it linked another sign up site to download it. Second time because it included warez. Third time, may have been due to warez(ex fancy widgets) or maybe even because of the $2 monthly fee for nighties. Hell it may have just been to all the crying the tread seem to bring.
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2$ monthly fee HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what bullsh*t is that

phatmanxxl said:
That thread was hijacked with bickering back and fourth anyway.
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That's all this thread is as well.

gqstatus0685 said:
It looks like they were looking for a reason to shut him down out of some spite.
Secondly you don't have to post a smart ass comment. I understand you're shielded behind your monitor and keyboard but that doesn't mean you have to act like a jerk.
There are plenty of ROM threads with members posting stuff they shouldn't have posted. They could have simply edited the offenders post or did a temporary ban. Anyone else care to chime in?
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they did the same thing to kingklick.

It's favoritism, that's all.
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if my memory serves me right XDA has some kind of right to host Sense roms with all the Sense things , someone made that argument before.

Member recruiting

Need a dev who can compiling rom. (All apks are ready.) And a fast internet connection for uploading.. Regards: Team GreenDroid.

Blaze said:
Need a dev who can compiling rom. (All apks are ready.) And a fast internet connection for uploading.. Regards: Team GreenDroid.
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This is not a good way of recruiting....
Saying, just saying

Best way to recruit developers for prospect projects:
- show what you can contribute, they need raw evidences (eg. previous work, works on other sites, programming knowledge)
- know what you need (eg. app based java devs, OS devs, themers, scripters)
- be a little polite don't feel like taking advantage over people
- lastly XDA is a community resource and no one, i mean no one is seriously random enough to go into a thread that says "HI I NEED DEVELOPERS ON A PROJECT WITH FAST INTERNET K THX", then replies "Ok i'm an expert and i'm in"

Creating a custom rom ?? i'll glad to help u...

Interest of the community vs single poster

Hello
I have a suggestion : I think it will be better to choose the interest of the community vs single poster interest.
For example in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3...ent/rom-lineageos-15-1-sgp621-t3871199/page21 the community can't use Z3TC anymore because a single poster doesn't want to share links.
The main goal of XDA must be to help people to use unofficial firmware not censoring posts to make it impossible.

The only redaction that occurred on that page was because a user posted a link to another users project without permission. If a dev doesn't allow others to share their work without permission, it's not censoring, it's following the wishes of developers.

Adaway - forget about annoying ads on your OnePlus Nord

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requirements:
1. Latest magisk
2. root access
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- magisk manager settings
- turn on systemless hosts
- install adaway
- click red button install custom hosts.
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adaway apk.

Why not referring to the official threats?
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/org.adaway
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190753
Or use Magisk module Energized Protection
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....module-energized-protection-one-t3806865/amp/

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THREAD CLOSED and attachment removed, which by the way wasn't the latest release.
Do not share software without permission of the original developer and without credits to him!
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In order to preserve the delicate balance between sharing for the good of the community and blatant self-promotion, regular members and developers alike must understand (and agree) to the following:
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