[Q] Titanium Backup/Restore and full device encrption - Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Only just got my first Android and have just rooted it.
Seems as though backup is a pain compared to my old iPhone.
I'm going to be using the device encryption that comes with the S4.
Is titanium backup going to be able to restore apps, app data and the device settings if I have Encryption enabled or is it going to brick my device etc?

js9ke said:
Only just got my first Android and have just rooted it.
Seems as though backup is a pain compared to my old iPhone.
I'm going to be using the device encryption that comes with the S4.
Is titanium backup going to be able to restore apps, app data and the device settings if I have Encryption enabled or is it going to brick my device etc?
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Titanium Backup is pretty good. I've been using it for many years now. It should be able to backup/restore your apps regardless of Encryption - you just need to export the backups to your SD card.
Don't restore system apps - as it probably won't work.

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Complete backup tool?

Is there any full Android backup app? I used to use a program for WinMo called SPB Backup (or something like that) that would basically image the phone (except for the rom). It was really nice to have a full backup (like Acronis for PC) since I knew I would never lose any customization, no matter what happened (other than losing my MicroSD card).
I am hoping something similar exists that I can have on my Evo.
Thanks!
Kido1986 said:
Is there any full Android backup app? I used to use a program for WinMo called SPB Backup (or something like that) that would basically image the phone (except for the rom). It was really nice to have a full backup (like Acronis for PC) since I knew I would never lose any customization, no matter what happened (other than losing my MicroSD card).
I am hoping something similar exists that I can have on my Evo.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830 standard, this is what people call a nandroid backup.
Paid version of titanium is $6 well spent.. does full backups meaning after flashing u can be right where u left off before the flash
What's the difference between nandroid and something like Titanium? From what I've been able to gather nandroid just creates a full system backup (sort of like a partition image on a PC?) whereas Titanium can actually backup all your apps, their data, and even your settings (which is pretty much impossible to do on a Win PC w/o backing up the entire OS/partition). Am I right or am I working off outdated info?
I've yet to decide whether I'm gonna root or not, been trying to figure it out today... The most prominent reasons I can see to do it are the free WiFi tether and having the ability to create/restore these kinds of backups w/ease (possibly worth more than WiFi tether to me, since I could just use PDANet otherwise).
Impulses said:
What's the difference between nandroid and something like Titanium? From what I've been able to gather nandroid just creates a full system backup (sort of like a partition image on a PC?) whereas Titanium can actually backup all your apps, their data, and even your settings (which is pretty much impossible to do on a Win PC w/o backing up the entire OS/partition). Am I right or am I working off outdated info?
I've yet to decide whether I'm gonna root or not, been trying to figure it out today... The most prominent reasons I can see to do it are the free WiFi tether and having the ability to create/restore these kinds of backups w/ease (possibly worth more than WiFi tether to me, since I could just use PDANet otherwise).
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nandroid backups are complete images of your entire setup. ROM and everything(apps, settings, etc.). Titanium backup will backup everything EXCEPT the rom, that is all settings, all apps and their settings.
I use a combination of both. I make nandroid backups of whole setups that I have just to my liking so that I can restore them if need be. I make titanium backups of everything so I can switch ROMs and still restore everything to my liking.
In the end, Titanium Backup is probably what you're looking for.

Restore MyBackup Pro backups

Hi.
I come from an HTC Desire and I have some backups that I made with MyBackup Pro of some app's data. Relevant data like some games progresses, Libra's database, etc. MyBackupPro has an online backup and I backed the data online on the HTC Desire and tried to restore it in the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy Nexus recognizes the backup, shows the apps that are backed up, but when I press Restore it says that I should reboot the device and that the restore was OK almost instantaneously. Nothing is restored, no data is transferred to the phone..
Is there any other way to migrate this kind of data? Shouldn't MyBackup Pro be working on the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks in advance
Anyone?
Maybe the app needs an update for ICS? Try to check their site to see if there's a reported problem, that's most likely the case.
Should have gone with Titanium Backup. I never had much luck with MyBackup anyway. Titanium is rock star on ICS.
The only problem Ive had so far has been restoring SMS with Pro.
Even with busy box installed its suuuper slow at the moment.
I sent them an email, I'll wait for an answer.. But I guess it is due to incompatibilities with ICS too..
AmesCell, I have always used MyBackup while using the Desire, never had a problem. Anyway, I still have the Desire and can use Titanium, but my Galaxy Nexus isn't rooted, and Titanium needs root.
eddie_gordo said:
I sent them an email, I'll wait for an answer.. But I guess it is due to incompatibilities with ICS too..
AmesCell, I have always used MyBackup while using the Desire, never had a problem. Anyway, I still have the Desire and can use Titanium, but my Galaxy Nexus isn't rooted, and Titanium needs root.
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Your signature says your Desire is rooted. Rooting the GN is easy. I go through 4 phones a year. I couldn't imagine doing that without Titanium.
Yes, the Desire is rooted, but I wasn't planning on rooting the GN so soon. I just got it 2 days ago and I want to see how this goes without any "hacks"..
I wouldn't have rooted the Desire in the first place if it wasn't for the lack of updates, etc... That's the main reason I bought the GN, having a more official support. Let's see, I'm almost sure that I'll root it in the future, but I don't want to do it right now.. I'll just wait for the Rerware answer to my email and see how it goes.
Thanks
Any update?
Rerware already answered, but no updates. Although I think I know what the problem is. I am only backup up app's Data, because they are already installed in the GN. But this is a "root only" feature and, for what I understood, non-rooted devices cannot restore this kind of backup, only APK backups. I asked this to the guys at Rerware to see if there is a workaround.
When I have news I'll post them here.
eddie_gordo said:
Yes, the Desire is rooted, but I wasn't planning on rooting the GN so soon. I just got it 2 days ago and I want to see how this goes without any "hacks"..
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restoring your data/sms/backups is a "hack"
Hi,
Did you manage to find a solution to this problem? My phone is rooted and it still doesnt restore anything. Just like you said it finds the backup but then when you select the arrow next to apps to tick which ones you want to restore nothing is shown..
I need this to restore my game saves, spotify offline music etc
This happened to me with my sensation before. Somehow the backup got corrupted to I deleted it and started from scratch. Sorry to hear this happened to you it seriously sucks losing akk that stuff. What I've been doing is using from manager to restore my data partition and I've never had any issues SO FAR.
Enable advanced options, click restore and restore backup and only select the data.
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I managed to solve the problem......
First my story:
I decided to install new ROM on my phone....i backed up apps and data with My Backup Pro (i bought the app)
My phone is rooted of course.
So i installed the new ROM and then i installed the My Backup Pro and started to restoring apps but i didn't get the app/data/app+data popup
and of course i couldn't restore my data from apps. i got really frustrated and browsed the web and couldn't find anything.
I started everything from the begining uninstalled all apps and figured it out that i did something wrong....and that is this that My Backup Pro doesn't work as it should without busy box...u have to install Busy Box before installing the My Backup Pro!
Follow this tutorial in order to restore your apps + data
Backing up apps on android (rooted) after installing new ROM
With My backup pro application
1. Backup apps + data
2. Backup dictionary
3. Backup all other data you want to
Install new ROM and then start restoring by this order
1. first install busy boxes i found there are two (BusyBox and BusyBox installer on the google store. install both)
2. install My backup pro and when asked to install additional options for rooted phone choose yes (now you should be able to choose between app/data/app+data to restore)
3. restore apps + data
4. thats it...enjoy!
It worked for me!! :good:

Backup apps and settings

Hey guys,
I would like to know whats the best way to backup all my current installed apps and settings so i can port them to a different rom without having to set all my stuff again.
The reason is simply because i want to try a different rom and not having the same configuration on both device is not a fair comparaison.
Thanks!
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You could use App manager or Titanium backup?
You can use Titanium backup to backup the apps, but restoring the system data across ROMs is risky, you can keep all your apps and app data with Titanium backup and restore once you get onto your new ROM.
What Hydera said.
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I wish google would just bundle a tool with their OS to do this.
ASUS has a backup tool for the Transformer which does both apps and data and does NOT require root.
We shouldn't have to modify our phones to backup our data. Apple's iCloud is the perfect example of what backups should be like!
EP2008 said:
I wish google would just bundle a tool with their OS to do this.
ASUS has a backup tool for the Transformer which does both apps and data and does NOT require root.
We shouldn't have to modify our phones to backup our data. Apple's iCloud is the perfect example of what backups should be like!
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You can do it with "adb backup" and "adb restore" - doesn't require modifying your phone.
Apple's iCloud is designed for a slightly different usage scenario - that is, migrating data between devices, not backing/restoring data so you can reflash the phone's firmware.
codesplice said:
You can do it with "adb backup" and "adb restore" - doesn't require modifying your phone.
Apple's iCloud is designed for a slightly different usage scenario - that is, migrating data between devices, not backing/restoring data so you can reflash the phone's firmware.
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Yeah, and for someone like my wife, iCloud is perfect and doesn't require thought... Get her to do an ADB backup several times a day and you'll be asking for trouble There must be a better way that can be implemented within the OS, like the aforementioned ASUS backup tool I wrote about earlier... Something "everyday folks" can use.
Titanium Backup.
Just got titanium backup pro and it works amazing for what I need ! The free version was meh since I wanted to do a batch backup and restore them all on the new ROM. I will now be able to test ROMs using the same configuration for all of them !
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After you flah, all your apps are automatically redownloaded from the market, once you enter your email.. But you will have to reconfigure them. Or, you can restore with Titanium backup. This will restore your app conf as welll.
Malarie said:
After you flah, all your apps are automatically redownloaded from the market, once you enter your email.. But you will have to reconfigure them. Or, you can restore with Titanium backup. This will restore your app conf as welll.
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Very inconvenient move. Lots of data usage is being used, especially for people on "capped" monthly bandwidth and the fact that app data isn't being saved.
Titanium Backup is the way to go. Pro is definitely needed as it's a one-step batch.
Whenever I flash of Roman's roms there is no automatic restore from the market. I tried another rom, can't remember, think it was the new ICS 4.04 all apps started downloading. Why the difference?

restore personalizations after a wipe

This has to have been asked already, however I am unable to think of sufficient search terms to turn it ip.
What I am looking to do is back up all my personalizations(sp?), ring tones, email configurations, text messages, all apps, etc and restore them back after a rom change or reinstall of the same rom.
Thanks
If Adroid had taken a backup of your apps and Settings then it would restore them. All you need to do is to log on with the same Google account as before. If you had not enabled Backup and Restore (Settings > Backup & Restore) then it will not restore anything.
I've used Titanium Backup for this - for a more in-depth way to backup and restore. It's just important to read and understand what you can and can't do with it or you can cripple your ROM and have to wipe and start over.
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Perseus71 said:
If Adroid had taken a backup of your apps and Settings then it would restore them. All you need to do is to log on with the same Google account as before. If you had not enabled Backup and Restore (Settings > Backup & Restore) then it will not restore anything.
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I have never had much luck with the google restore. The only thing I have ever been able to get it to restore with any reliability was my contacts. Having my apps restored is below 50/50 and I always have that setting on. Even when it restored my apps it never restored my Text Messages although I do have an app for that. It is more the configurations that get annoying.
Pennycake said:
I've used Titanium Backup for this - for a more in-depth way to backup and restore. It's just important to read and understand what you can and can't do with it or you can cripple your ROM and have to wipe and start over.
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I'll have to take another look at Titanium Backup. I played with it a couple years back but never delved into it too much. Mainly used it to freeze apps on my Sensation when only the temp root was available.
Thanks guys.
I've used Ti Backup for years but it can be a little cumbersome. Helium by Koush is a little easier to use.
My last wipe was owned by Nandroid Manager
I've never restored wifi, bluetooth and SMS so reliably before. As long as you do a full Nandroid backup before you wipe, NM can hunt through your backup for whatever data you need.

Complete Backup without Root?

Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
The only way besides using the cloud backup would to have a second phone running pie. Wipe it and set it up as new then use the transfer tool to transfer everything over. Then do the same to your pixel when you need the backup.
It's alot of work and most people don't have a spare phone, but it is an option
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You could just unlock the phone and run a TWRP backup. Does not require root.
Of course, because you didn't unlock the phone when you received it, doing so now will wipe the device.
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The only way besides using the cloud backup
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
kmandel said:
By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium. My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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No there is not. You may try one of the many non-root backup programs like Swift Backup that are better at restoring app settings. That is why it is always better to unlock as soon as you get the phone. Any time at all spent setting the phone up is wasted until after it is properly unlocked. Google backup has come a very long way and it will quickly restore all your (Play) user apps but has many caveats as you have found. If the app data is small, it usually is restored, but if you have game data, MMS, music, etc. It obviously will not. The combination Google cloud backup + Titanium Backup (to restore missing apps and data) is the best way I have found when starting with a completely blank slate. In advance of a complete wipe, I transfer a copy of my latest TiBu folder to the PC, along with Nova Launcher backup. After initially setting the phone up (not using data transfer), I allow Google backup to restore until fully complete 100%. When it is done, I transfer the TiBu folder back on to the PC and run it to restore only missing apps and data. Lastly I use the Nova backup file to restore all launcher settings, shortcuts and widgets. This doesn't take very long and gets me to about 95%.
kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You can try running the backup command in adb. https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Eudeferrer said:
I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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And the problem is you won't get notifications for many of the apps if they are restored using Titanium Backup

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