As the the title suggests, I think that it would help make things less cluttered. Just a Nexus 7 LTE (2013) Android Development subforum, not a complete new device forum. Btw, I still don't understand the difference between Development and Original Development, so please comment if you do understand and do think that we need them both for LTE version.
I already suggested this to forum mod MikeChannon, he said they would consider it.
Thinking that the earlier we get it the less effort, problems and trouble it creates I am now putting up this poll.
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As the the title suggests, I think that it would help make things less cluttered. Just a Nexus 7 LTE (2013) Android Development subforum, not a complete new device forum. Btw, I still don't understand the difference between Development and Original Development, so please comment if you do understand and do think that we need them both for LTE version.
I already suggested this to forum mod MikeChannon, he said they would consider it.
Thinking that the earlier we get it the less effort, problems and trouble it creates I am now putting up this poll.
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That would be a good idea. And you can read about it here http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
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Nexus 7 LTE different
The Nexus 7 LTE is different from Nexus Wi-Fi similarly how the predecessor Nexus 7 Mobile is different from the Wi-Fi model.
However, in the US, the LTE will run on the top-3: AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile, and in multiple modes, so expect lots of questions about APNs, plans and such.
Another area of confusion will be the various VoIP clients people will use, like Talkatone, Sipdroid, CSipSimple.
I am not sure how it affects the forum disposition, but if you thought you didn't have enough impossible problems before, get yourself a shiny Nexus 7 LTE... There's a reason for it being late.
PhoneGeek said:
I am not sure how it affects the forum disposition, but if you thought you didn't have enough impossible problems before, get yourself a shiny Nexus 7 LTE... There's a reason for it being late.
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not sure what you are implying here, but i have one for almost a week now, it is awesome, and it is flawless. even stock 4.3 rooted is not that bad, i would like to have some options though.
It's been announced that all operator versions will be identical (ATT, Sprint, Verizon, etc.). That is something different from the previous N7. So maybe, just maybe someone should try ROM compatibility with Flo (Wifi). If that works out (minus LTE hardware drivers) we won't need a separate forum. And the development would be much better in total as a result of having way more devices....it'd be cool to pick a WiFi rom and flash it on an LTE, and then just flash the LTE module...oh the possibilities....
i tried different flo images on my deb n7 and it doesn't work. it's not booting, it gets stuck at the x. only way to make it work again was flashing an deb image again. so i think a sub forum for deb would be nice
Yeah, good idea. The old Nexus 7 has a dedicated sub-forum for the 3G version too. It makes finding stuff much easier.
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not sure what you are implying here, but i have one for almost a week now, it is awesome, and it is flawless. even stock 4.3 rooted is not that bad, i would like to have some options though.
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I am referring to the Nexus 7 LTE having a seven-band LTE radio. It's the first device anytime, anywhere I know of to have such a complex radio.
I am also referring to the enormous possibilities this offers Nexus 7 LTE owners, which will compel them to try things never tried before. Take the tinkering with a Galaxy Nexus. Now triple it.
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Apparently the Nexus 7 LTE went on sale over-the-counter in Germany and Australia on 8/29:
Asutralia: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/114844
Germany: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ0iXzQNckI
Note that there are two versions with different LTE bands.
The EU model is for everywhere outside the US, which would be 95% of the world's telecom. "EverUwhere"
So Google/ASUS launches the US model after the EU model.
Apparenly ASUS has a 16 GiB LTE model that Google isn't selling yet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_7_(2013_version)#Model_variants
well, i guess this means searching for us LTE owners then...
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well, i guess this means searching for us LTE owners then...
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I got an LTE model in Europe on 2 Sept, and I really would like to have a sub-forum, since browsing the normal one and trying to find stuff for the LTE one is just driving me crazy.
Actually, you can find this device in Europe (Germany and Italy, maybe Poland or Romania but I'm not sure).
And we wait soon this version in UK and France nearly.
And it's my next device
And as you know you can request to open this subforum as N7 3G here: *** New Device Forum Requests ***
This would be a great idea. Keep the wifi only and LTE ROMs in different sections.
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Good idea. Otherwise, I'll need to constantly remind myself to be mindful if the ROM or update is for the wifi only, or LTE.
Otherwise, another possible option would be to append the beginning of each post with a [WIFI] , [LTE] or [GENERIC] depending on which flavour it belongs to.
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Actually, you can find this device in Europe (Germany and Italy, maybe Poland or Romania but I'm not sure).
And we wait soon this version in UK and France nearly.
And it's my next device
And as you know you can request to open this subforum as N7 3G here: *** New Device Forum Requests ***
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Forum for the device is already created, we just need a subforum for LTE version, pretty basic considering the old model got one as well! Why they didn't create it at the start is a mystery to me.
jak3z said:
Forum for the device is already created, we just need a subforum for LTE version, pretty basic considering the old model got one as well! Why they didn't create it at the start is a mystery to me.
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Sorry, but you have not understood what I meant or I misspoke.
I meant that it would be better to use the normal way to request the opening of a sub-forum in the thread provided for it => *** New Device Forum Requests ***
I know that the forum, for this device, has been created and we have use the normal way to open a sub-forum for the N7 3G.
I know that the admins will open a sub-forum 2013 N7 for LTE very soon. Don't be afraid
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Sorry, but you have not understood what I meant or I misspoke.
I meant that it would be better to use the normal way to request the opening of a sub-forum in the thread provided for it => *** New Device Forum Requests ***
I know that the forum, for this device, has been created and we have use the normal way to open a sub-forum for the N7 3G.
I know that the admins will open a sub-forum 2013 N7 for LTE very soon. Don't be afraid
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I don't lose anything posting, true, just did it.
Muikkuman said:
That would be a good idea. And you can read about it here http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
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thanks for the hint. so basically the (not-original) development forums are the useless ones, that could as well be deleted all together. or stuff that is OK and useful, but on an arbitrary scale not "original" enough.
so basically i have to look in both subforums all the time to find something interesting. way to go, xda. and i thought they were back on a better path...
bumping this...
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bumping this...
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Forum mods or whoever have to do it, seem to be too busy for it.
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Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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Mods...? Anyone?
I see a lot of views and no responses.
Am I the only one that has this concern?
If I am, lol, its all good
You are not alone but this has been already suggested, and I'm not sure that it will be done :/
See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801301
And as AndroHero pointed out, it's not here that you should make this suggestion.
I agree also, we need separate sections for GSM and CDMA devices, it would be less confusing for people.
When the CDMA Desire came out, there were a lot of suggestions on the requests to admin forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=113
Nothing ever came of it obviously but they seem to be a little more willing to add forums/subforums lately. It could be worth another push on that forum.
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Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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i think you may have more luck lf you just ask for a dedicated cdma android development section rather that a whole sub formum, desire general and q&a could remain both gsm and cdma
Desire GSM CDMA subforum
I don't know if this helps but as far as I know the US is the only country that runs CDMA. Therefore when I see a rom posted by someone from another country I then assume that it is a GSM rom and do not dl it.
you are incorrect sir,the asia pacific region has more cdma subscribers than the united states.
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
for the purposes of this forum however; your method works.
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I don't know if this helps but as far as I know the US is the only country that runs CDMA. Therefore when I see a rom posted by someone from another country I then assume that it is a GSM rom and do not dl it.
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From techeye:
http://news.techeye.net/mobile/google-abandons-cdma?
CDMA is marked "archived, for reference only"
http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
I guess that finally nails the Verizon Galaxy Nexus as a carrier-phone. Next time buy a truly free & open device (i.e. GSM)
Seriously though. This Galaxy Nexus launch and follow-up has to be the messiest thing I've ever since Google set its foot into. From launch, to providing international release-dates, to US promotion, to handling updates, to releasing buggy updates, to pulling them, to general PR.
It's all been a big ****ing mess.
Is this the sign of the start of the end of the Nexus program or what? Or is leaving closed CDMA networks and carriers behind actually a sign of a new, better start?
Discuss.
Welcome to last week.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Edit: Rootzwiki seems to have something more to offer than the techeye article.
http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/ann...dma-galaxy-nexus-will-continue-to-update-r374
Still not crystal clear, and definitely falls under my definition of messy PR.
The rootzwiki even has an update, because Google has messed up its correcting response and needs to correct itself, again.
Yeah this is old news. Plus the 4.0.4 update is out for the VZW. What's it like beating a dead horse lol?
Sent from my Gummy Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479199
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Funny thing is how the 'abandoned' device is getting more frequent updates than e officially supported device. We still don't have 4.0.3 officially yet (the last relapse is officially the Nexus S one), and 4.0.4 is CDMA only.
Welcome to last week, BTW.
Omg. Not only does it keep being reposted but by people who don't even understand what's going on and say things like " next time buy a truly free and open device".
Sent from my 'closed' 4.0.4 CDMA Galaxy Nexus.
matt30 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479199
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Hm. Should have searched the forum better it seems. I didn't find it before posting. Anyway. The conclusion from that thread still seems to be incredibly messy.
Can anyone tell WTH it now does mean to be a "Nexus" device? Ever since the release of the Galaxy Nexus and its "evil" CDMA counter-pair, that definition seems to have been in a flux.
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Welcome to last week, BTW.
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Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
http://androinica.com/2012/02/cdma-...l-dev-support-updates-still-come-from-google/
Sent from my Gummy Nexus
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Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
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Don't talk about what you do not comprehend. That is the most ignorant thing I have heard in a long time.
I too can build 4.0.3 for CDMA. So go get educated.
adrynalyne said:
I too can build 4.0.3 for CDMA. So go get educated.
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Good. Reading Google's various statements on the matters it seems like you cannot though, so excuse me for thinking otherwise.
So again. Yay for Google's handling of this
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Good. Reading Google's various statements on the matters it seems like you cannot though, so excuse me for thinking otherwise.
So again. Yay for Google's handling of this
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If my understanding is correct, you need to build 4.0.3 with the proprietary files (binaries) contained in a working cdma build of the device (what Google has called "apks"). Since those files are closed source, they cannot be included in AOSP.
Why those cdma files are closed source is a mystery. It could be for legal reasons or it could be because of the way cdma networks communicate with devices (requiring them to have a signature from the carrier embedded in them).
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The proprietaries are all closed source. GSM included. Looks like Google couldn't obtain a license to distribute is the whole problem. Hence they also axed the factory images, because it was a form of redistribution of them as well.
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The proprietaries are all closed source. GSM included. Looks like Google couldn't obtain a license to distribute is the whole problem. Hence they also axed the factory images, because it was a form of redistribution of them as well.
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And cmda (and I guess the proprietary software) is owned by a working group of several different telecom companies.
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josteink said:
Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
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how does what feel? unless you are just into foreign flags you will never use a cdma phone from verizon. looking at this logically you are either seeking attention or trolling. either way its sort of pathetic but i guess its winter over there and you havent much to do.
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how does what feel? unless you are just into foreign flags you will never use a cdma phone from verizon. looking at this logically you are either seeking attention or trolling. either way its sort of pathetic but i guess its winter over there and you havent much to do.
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At first I was trying to get some news out. And discussion about Google's general handling of the Nexus-line this time around and how it hasn't exactly been "optimal".
But I guess that got lost in everyone picking up on the snide remark rather than the rest of the comment.
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At first I was trying to get some news out. And discussion about Google's general handling of the Nexus-line this time around and how it hasn't exactly been "optimal".
But I guess that got lost in everyone picking up on the snide remark rather than the rest of the comment.
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Thanks for posting josteink. I hadn't seen it before either. Not sure why everyone is getting their feathers ruffled when you clearly put a smiley face beside the comment. And besides, those that are posting saying it is old news keep bumping the thread...
josteink said:
Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
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There is no source release of 4.0.4 yet but I have been on 4.0.3 since the day I got my phone.
How does it feel? It feels great to have 32GB of space on my phone and get an average 20Mbps downstream. (At times reaching 40Mbps+)
This isn't old news at all and it is a big deal. A lot of people got screwed here by both Google and Verizon. Not having official AOSP support for developer nexus phone is unacceptable. If there were code distribution issues, then Google should have worked that out way before the official launch. I'm still holding out hope that this will be resolved, but at this point i'd settle for just getting out of my contract and moving over to the GSM variant.
On a related note, I wish CDMA would just fade away into a bad memory.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket.
If you're not using the GSM version on AT&T there's probably no reason for you to be a troll.
Have you seriously not read a thread or news article in the last 24 hours?
That's not an AT&T Galaxy Nexus. Its an unlocked i9250 GSM model. Works on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any GSM carrier in the US/World. Its the same (save for pre-installed Google Wallet) as the European model that's been sold for the last 5+ months.
Seriously?
Google Officially Selling Galaxy Nexus GSM in USA via Play Store ($399)
On the first page of this forum.
I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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worth it? yes.
development?
is this not the GSM Nexus dev page..????????????????????????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1339
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I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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Please just leave this thread and go join the other ones. You clearly have not read about the device, because it is the EXACT SAME as the other ones. It won't be a special phone that requires different ROMs or development. The phone has been on sale for over 5 months.
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https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
Is it worth it? Think any developers will support it? Currently have a SkyRocket.
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Lol lames
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I updated my question to be a bit more clear.
"I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket."
The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
X10D3 said:
I updated my question to be a bit more clear.
"I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket."
The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
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No, we're not trolls, we're just tired of people that are uninformed creating irrelevant, duplicate threads before searching or even reading the titles of the threads on the first page of the forum.
Obviously this phone has developer support, it's a Nexus. It doesn't matter what freaking SIM card you put in the back of it, its still the same device. GSM device support is GSM device support. Read. Please!
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So are pointless, redundant threads apparently.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
FFS ppl the OP was just asking a question. Yes the GN sold by Google is supported by AOSP and will have [email protected]!# ton of ROM and development going for a long time
Per your suggestion I've looked through the last 5 pages and there's a couple that's semi similar to mine. The official announcement: which I could try to start a conversation there and it get lost in the general chatter about it, and another question like mine but about the battery. I could hijack his thread. That would be cool? Instead of trolling, which most of the replies have been, you could have said something like "I seen a post earlier that might help out". The replies have been absolute crap. If you're tired of seeing it ignore it.
I'm Never used an AOSP device, or an international device. Before I bought it I thought I would come over kick up a conversation with some people that have a GN and ask some questions. General stuff about development on it. Is there a difference between this one and the international version.
The way you people responded to someone that has never been in this specific device's forum, or messed with any variant of the device before is not right.
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FFS ppl the OP was just asking a question. Yes the GN sold by Google is supported by AOSP and will have [email protected]!# ton of ROM and development going for a long time
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Thank you!! I'll talk to you.
Thinking about buying it. Never used or paid much attention to AOSP devices because AT&T doesn't sell them. Are there any catches coming from Non-AOSP devices? I wasn't sure if there's any catches to using the international GSM roms with AT&T. Completely clueless here. I don't necessarily have time to read every post for 10 pages. Looking for a general overview of my questions.
You asked a really obvious question which is why people are responding to you the way they are. The question also doesn't make much sense since it is hard to believe that you this little about this phone. I think you are asking if the Galaxy Nexus works well with AT&T. The answer is yes. It also works well with any GSM network provider. There is good development for this phone, and nothing has to be or will be unique to AT&T.
There's no catches to using this phone with AT&T. Everything works great. Well actually, there are a few catches, I wouldn't get this phone if you were hoping to have:
1. Delayed software updates, or no updates at all
2. Terrible superimposed user interface that is more buggy
3. Lots of bloatware like AT&T Navigator just in case you wanted to pay AT&T for something Google gives for free and does a better job at.
If you are looking for any of those, then yeah, that's the only catch.
Why would I every look into a phone that I can't use? It has nice specs. I can't use it. Close. What's obvious to you isn't so obvious to someone else. Maybe it's all exactly the same as what I'm used to, or maybe there's some stuff you you "just know from experience" that I wouldn't know.
I read your post twice and I have no idea what you were trying to say.
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I read your post twice and I have no idea what you were trying to say.
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Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
X10D3 said:
Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
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Yes all GSM rooms currently in the GSM development section will work and all future ones too.
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X10D3 said:
Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
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This is what I'm saying. You have a very very weak understanding of how this works. Do you really think that there are specific ROMs and tweaks for all of the dozens of carriers people are using this device on? Its an unlocked GSM device. There's no special software needed. You put in your SIM card.
Developers suppor the device. Not the network.
Get in general on gsm/wcdma bands? Curious because I can't find a lot of info. And anybody previously owned some Motorola or Nokia phones how does LG compare to those? And a bonus question. How well does a Qualcomm WDC9310 sound processor compare to Wolfson 8994 or 1811? I can't find much info on the in-house sound chip Qualcomm, and it was challenging finding that is what is used on their s4 plus soc's.
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This is a Samsung Forum.
From before LG had worse signal then Sony Ericson devices.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
It is a nexus forum with many people anticipating the next nexus. I am hoping some previous lg phone owners chime in.
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It is a nexus forum with many people anticipating the next nexus. I am hoping some previous lg phone owners chime in.
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Its a Galaxy Nexus forum. not a general every nexus forum. I can't find ROMs for the Nexus One, S, or 7 here. Still though, I don't think LG has the best radios.
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It is a nexus forum with many people anticipating the next nexus. I am hoping some previous lg phone owners chime in.
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confused....
anyways, i see what you might be looking for, but woudln't a 'better' source of info on LG phones be a LG forum? Be like if I posted on an iphone forum asking what people think of samsung phones
Darunion said:
confused....
anyways, i see what you might be looking for, but woudln't a 'better' source of info on LG phones be a LG forum? Be like if I posted on an iphone forum asking what people think of samsung phones
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i see your point and thought about it, but as i said before, this is a nexus forum with many people anticipating the next nexus. i am sure many people here are interested in this question. but i digress as everybody else has. a nexus is still a phone at the end of the day.
He may be asking about LG, but at least it's in the Q&A section. On the HTC One XL section they keep putting it all in the General section. HA
Anywho... LG on the Sprint network here is AWFUL! But that might just be Sprint here. My mom never had problems with her LG Shine.
Sprint is awful. Couldn't blame an oem for reception.
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He may be asking about LG, but at least it's in the Q&A section. On the HTC One XL section they keep putting it all in the General section. HA
Anywho... LG on the Sprint network here is AWFUL! But that might just be Sprint here. My mom never had problems with her LG Shine.
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That's just sprint. Lol a better candidate would be a LG phone on Verizon or AT&T.
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My previous phone was an LG. I used it on this same T-Mobile account. It definitely had a stronger radio than the gnex. But the gnex radio is good enough, and it's a much better phone in every other way.
I was going through the threads and what really bugs me is the virgin mobile desire development is mixed up with the Europe version. I know the phones are identical but we have a different Hboot and Software. We should separate the two versions in two different threads making it easier for users to follow the development phase.
Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
I agree with this as well. Merging the types has caused irreversible bricks for people who aren't savvy in these things especially if they haven't backed up their original software via Nandroid. Now you may think just download an RUU but those are not available for the Virgin Mobile model and finding and using someone else's nandroid isn't a simple drag and drop process including the fact that they can't boot the system. They would indeed have to use for example Cyanogenmod but then people aren't even sure if its possible to restore an original backup from Cyanogen.
On top of that there is a custom kernel but no one has uploaded an original for those who want to go back to stock for squaretrade insurance purposes maybe? I would possibly hear, this sounds like a "you" problem but regardless of the device they were produced and people do use them and some people do like to mod them to the fullest extent to call it "theirs". You might say just learn but it isn't that simple for everyone. What takes an expert a few minutes/hours to arrange may take a new person months or years and with risk that they cannot restore the device in the case of a bad flash. Just saying to consider everyone not just the general population. Minorities in society deserve a chance no?
Me? Saying; I am one of these people but I can understand the difficulty when navigating through something and when their using purely codenames such as a5_dug it makes it no simpler.
One reason for this phone.
Its available in payments on the shopping websites. 199 and 6 months to pay it off with no credit check? Yes please.
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FoxyDrew said:
Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
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My thoughts exactly :good:
kr338r said:
My thoughts exactly :good:
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From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
jaysoblitzed said:
From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
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Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
Truth be told, things would be easier for us if there was a separate sub forum but it wouldn't favor us as far as development goes.
To the best of my knowledge there are a handful of devs who work with VM phones. I'm not exactly sure if any of them have jumped on the 816.
Until that happens I think it's in our best interest to hang out and wait. Right now we're dependent on those that have had the phone for about 6 months longer than we have..
v_superuser and Garak have posted their CM11 in a cl;ear enough way that DLing and running that rom should be pretty straightforward. If any future roms are posted in the same way there should be no confusion.
That being said, I can see a VM specific subforum being helpful for people who may be starting out and aren't sure about general stuff relating to VM bloatware etc.
kr338r said:
Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
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Lol . I bricked this phone 4 times going back and forth; from the Stock ROM, to the Chinese sort of stock ROM, to Cyanogen. Done erased my /sdcard to where it wasn't mountable and brought it back with Cyanogen and sideload. (Luckily, the bootloader wasn't affected by the amount of **** I threw at it.) Tested 3 different recoveries only to find out the old version from the CM11 post was the only one that really worked the properly.
I was able to start it back up and continue to put the backup onto the internal storage since I didn't have an external SD on hand; BUT then I found out that the backup was 1.96 GBs and needed to be in the /data/media/clockworkmod/backup section of the device which was inaccessible via normal USB methods since your stuck in /data/media/0 and is considered basically a completely different partition. This phone has 8GB internal and uses 4.xxGB with its normal software when installed (yes even with Cyan) then I just put a 1.96 GB file so it was basically stopping me from copying the whole folder which was just ever so slightly annoying since I had to use ES file explorer, make a new folder with the same name, then; one by one Cut and Paste each file into the new folder in the /backup folder. This might seem like a simple process but with absolutely no guides out there for a guideline this really sucked. It's basically like; if you have this device then you know how to flash/root/etc as the norm. Trial and error. -_-
Then after looking around and seeing that VM had 55$ for their plan. I saw that Straight Talk was able to accept the MEID of this VM device without a hitch, but then I looked into different carriers for even better alternatives and saw that Ringplus had $17.99 for Unlimited Talk/Text/400MB 3G/4GLTE. I thought **** why not? Turns out Ringplus doesn't accept VM devices. (Sucks)
SO then I decided to "spoof" the IMEI/MEID/ESN with DFS/QPST (Experience) and I was able to get the MEID/ESN to change and get EvDo Rev.A service but to no avail with LTE since the IMEI is "unspoofable" without S-Off. I thought well why not $17.99 for unlimited T&T w/data? Signed up with my new "S3". lmfao
Purpose of this post?
There was at least 3-10 topics I could cover for VM Desire devices now.
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Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
carnivalrejectq said:
Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
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I just checked out the VMUSA site and couldn't find anything about dual sim. I did however see "Dual Mode" used for the phone. Dual mode is just a term to say that the phone uses both CDMA and GSM. CDMA for 3G and GSM for LTE.
An answer could be to have a thread under "Desire 816 General" called "Virgin Mobile Issues" or something similar. I'm guessing there could be enough traffic to keep it on the first page for a while. For example I'm still curious exactly how the -chl is best classified. Is this hybrid best thought of as a single or dual sim? Will getting s-off allow the phone (with some rom work) to be used by another carrier? Having all these VM specific questions and answers in one place would be a plus and it shouldn't interfere with the Q&A being done on the true dev work here in other threads.