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I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
This is how I see it:
Advantages to International Model:
No Bloatware
Tethering works out of the box (though it's easy to download Foxfi)
Timely updates
Has split screen already
Advantages to AT&T version
LTE
While LTE is nice, my HSPA+ speeds are plenty fast. I'm just not sure it's worth it to move to a branded device for faster internet. What do you guys think? I know the AT&T model will get the split screen eventually, but it will likely be months and every update after that will be on the International model long before the branded model sees it.
Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
greyhulk said:
I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
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Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
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I don't really do custom ROMs, but I have been rooting lately just to block ads (hate them). So custom roms isn't really a factor.
Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.
Id root and run international firmware with lte
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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Agreed. Get an AT&T, root it, flash with the international, and get the best of both worlds.
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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greyhulk said:
Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.
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No it was not removed.
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I know you said you don't do customs ROM, but doesn't make sense to so. AT&T Note II with a custom and you get ALL the benefits (and more).
I wasn't gonna root, but went ahead because I wanted the multi-window. Now I can use multi-window with any app I want, have no bloat, LTE and get better battery life. Extremely happy ROMed Note II.
I just switched from the International model to the ATT one. The LTE alone is worth it plus you can port ROM's.
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Thanks for the advice, guys. Made the swap today and rooted. Now I'm just on the hunt for the right ROM.
Hello everybody, I am currently planning on coming to Tmobile from Att and I have a unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT. I know it will work in terms of service, but my question is when I come to flash roms, would I flash them from the Tmobile section of XDA? Or the ATT section of XDA?
The phone originally being ATT with Tmobile Sim card was really throwing me off and I didn't want to do any thing stupid.
Thank you so much for your time.
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Hello everybody, I am currently planning on coming to Tmobile from Att and I have a unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT. I know it will work in terms of service, but my question is when I come to flash roms, would I flash them from the Tmobile section of XDA? Or the ATT section of XDA?
The phone originally being ATT with Tmobile Sim card was really throwing me off and I didn't want to do any thing stupid.
Thank you so much for your time.
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T-Mobile phone - > T-Mobile threads
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T-Mobile phone - > T-Mobile threads
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Ok got it, thank you.
So it doesn't matter that my carrier will be Tmobile, I should still use Att threads and not have a problem?:good:
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Ok got it, thank you.
So it doesn't matter that my carrier will be Tmobile, I should still use Att threads and not have a problem?:good:
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Correct.
|When Emotion Goes up, Logic Goes Down|
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Ok got it, thank you.
So it doesn't matter that my carrier will be Tmobile, I should still use Att threads and not have a problem?:good:
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You got it bro. You are absolutely correct.
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re: differences
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Hello everybody, I am currently planning on coming to Tmobile from Att and I have a unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT. I know it will work in terms of service, but my question is when I come to flash roms, would I flash them from the Tmobile section of XDA? Or the ATT section of XDA?
The phone originally being ATT with Tmobile Sim card was really throwing me off and I didn't want to do any thing stupid.
Thank you so much for your time.
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After inserting a Tmobile sim card into your UNLOCKED phone you will be able to flash
any of the roms here in the Tmobile thread as well as in the AT&T thread.
If you flash a AT&T rom the only thing you need to do to make it work properly is to
change the APN (Access Point settings) in the phone to be "T-Mobile US".
The phone can do that automatically by going into:
Settings>more settings>mobile networks>Network operators>Select automatically and select "select automatically"
and it will find that you have a Tmobile sim and it will change the apn to reflect that.
The phone will work just fine either way, however there is one main difference between
the roms found in the AT&T thread and this Tmobile thread.
The difference is when using Tmobile roms which are not ported from other carriers you
will have built-in wifi calling as an option when using the Tmobile roms.
Other than that you will not notice much of any difference at all.
Good Luck!
I bought a new SS S3 and ordered it for Tmobil network, but instead recieved a ATT phone...
SGH-I747
Everything works fine, and its not unlocked that I know of, but the whole reason I bought the phone was to use the wifi calling option of T-mobil, this att phone doesnt have that option.
Am I screwed? Should I send it back for a t-mobil phone or is there a simple way to update this phone to T-mobil and get the option of wifi calling from T-mobil.?
robomas1 said:
I bought a new SS S3 and ordered it for Tmobil network, but instead recieved a ATT phone...
SGH-I747
Everything works fine, and its not unlocked that I know of, but the whole reason I bought the phone was to use the wifi calling option of T-mobil, this att phone doesnt have that option.
Am I screwed? Should I send it back for a t-mobil phone or is there a simple way to update this phone to T-mobil and get the option of wifi calling from T-mobil.?
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Hey robomas1. Would you be interested in trading your AT&T s3 for a brand new T-Mobile s3? I have a similar situation as yourself and got a T-Mobile version galaxy s3 but I wanted an AT&T phone as that's what carrier I use.
Let me know. Thanks.
re: flashing
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Hello everybody, I am currently planning on coming to Tmobile from Att and I have a unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT. I know it will work in terms of service, but my question is when I come to flash roms, would I flash them from the Tmobile section of XDA? Or the ATT section of XDA?
The phone originally being ATT with Tmobile Sim card was really throwing me off and I didn't want to do any thing stupid.
Thank you so much for your time.
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When you are flashing any custom roms after you get your Tmobile sim chip you should flash the
Tmobile Touchwiz Jellybean 4.1.2 custom roms for the very best results.
If you do flash an AT&T cwm/twrp flashable custom rom you will find that even though the phone will
work fine you will loose the free Wifi calling feature in the phone if it's not flashed with a tmobile rom.
Flashing the official Odin flash Tmobile firmware on an AT&T phone even if it's unlocked and rooted will
cause the phone not to be able to make or receive any phone calls.
The reason for this is that all the official Tmobile Samsung Odin flash firmware contain a modem/radio image which
is not compatible with an AT&T phone even if it's unlocked and rooted but none of the Tmobile or AT&T CWM/TWRP
flashable stock or custom roms contain the modem/radio image file which means you can flash them without any issues.
Good luck!
Trade ATT
hbkalel said:
Hey robomas1. Would you be interested in trading your AT&T s3 for a brand new T-Mobile s3? I have a similar situation as yourself and got a T-Mobile version galaxy s3 but I wanted an AT&T phone as that's what carrier I use.
Let me know. Thanks.
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I have a brand new in the box Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT and I am willing to trade for a T-Mobile.
li2le said:
I have a brand new in the box Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT and I am willing to trade for a T-Mobile.
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Pm sent
I will trade
li2le said:
I have a brand new in the box Samsung Galaxy S3 from ATT and I am willing to trade for a T-Mobile.
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I still trade phones
It should go without saying but be very wary of someone who registered an account just to try to trade phones... There's a reason there's a big Swappa logo up above the site navigation bar...
hbkalel said:
Hey robomas1. Would you be interested in trading your AT&T s3 for a brand new T-Mobile s3? I have a similar situation as yourself and got a T-Mobile version galaxy s3 but I wanted an AT&T phone as that's what carrier I use.
Let me know. Thanks.
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Hi, I have a brand new AT&T S3 and need a T-Mobile S3.
So you still have the T-Mobile Phone?
If Interested, let me know.
thanks
mustang123 said:
Hi, I have a brand new AT&T S3 and need a T-Mobile S3.
So you still have the T-Mobile Phone?
If Interested, let me know.
thanks
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I sent you a pm.
As far as just joining to trade phones, I am genuine. I read the forums regularly and finally joined. This forum helped me to unlock my T-Mobile galaxy s3. However, using the tmobile phone, I can't run the update, as the unlock does not hold after and my AT&T sim no longer works.
That's my reasoning for wanting to trade for an AT&T galaxy s3.
hbkalel said:
I sent you a pm.
As far as just joining to trade phones, I am genuine. I read the forums regularly and finally joined. This forum helped me to unlock my T-Mobile galaxy s3. However, using the tmobile phone, I can't run the update, as the unlock does not hold after and my AT&T sim no longer works.
That's my reasoning for wanting to trade for an AT&T galaxy s3.
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Just curious, what do you mean the unlock doesn't hold? Once unlocked it should remain so whether you flash a rom, firmware, mod, etc.
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Just curious, what do you mean the unlock doesn't hold? Once unlocked it should remain so whether you flash a rom, firmware, mod, etc.
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Well I had to flash back to stock rom to unlock the phone. I have avoided running the network update, guess was afraid that it wouldn't work. I really didn't want to have to flash it again and have to unlock it and be back where I started. So it should be fine to update, should cause no issues amd run fine with AT&T sim still?
Thats what you're saying right?
Thanks for info.
As I understand it, that is correct. Once its unlocked, you can Odin flash firmware, recovery flash roms, flash modems, etc.
If it helps, Ive never seen a single thread or question where someone was relocked.
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As I understand it, that is correct. Once its unlocked, you can Odin flash firmware, recovery flash roms, flash modems, etc.
If it helps, Ive never seen a single thread or question where someone was relocked.
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Alright. I will go ahead and run the network update then. The notification doesn't go away. It is annoying!
Haha. I'll post back. I'd rather not have to trade if it works fine. Other than the annoying notification, the phone operates wonderfully.
If i flash the tmobile s3 rom on my att s3 will i get the 1700mhz band? I thought an att s3 on tmobile will only get 2g/edge service. Please let me know if someone knows.
Thanks A Lot,
Yasir Faheem
I have the MetroPCS (SGH-M919N) version of the S4. I don't see a specific forum for my model. I was wondering, since T-Mobile and MetroPCS have merged, can I use the same instructions on this forum to root my device. Thanks in advance.
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Caloba said:
I have the MetroPCS (SGH-M919N) version of the S4. I don't see a specific forum for my model. I was wondering, since T-Mobile and MetroPCS have merged, can I use the same instructions on this forum to root my device. Thanks in advance.
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Truthfully, I was wondering why the MetroPCS version didn't have its own forum.
The S4 is particularly important, since it's the first MetroPCS smartphone to use T-Mobile's GSM network instead of their standard CDMA. You can use your S4 in places where you never had MPCS coverage before -- in Portland, Oregon, for example.
The next place I'm going to look for comments on the SGH-M919N is in the T-Mobile forum, since we're already using their network anyway.
The standard T-Mobile version of the phone seems to be called the SGH-M919 (sans N).
Let me know if you find anything. I'm dying to root this phone and get rid of all this Samsung and MetroPCS bloatware, thanks.
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Well as far as the S4 all the S4 and even the international quad core version are the same phone. So you wont have any issues there. And as far as not having it's own forum. XDA dont use lower class carriers like MetroPCS and Cricket. You could go to AndroidForums.com they have metro pcs phones in there
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Well as far as the S4 all the S4 and even the international quad core version are the same phone. So you wont have any issues there. And as far as not having it's own forum. XDA dont use lower class carriers like MetroPCS and Cricket. You could go to AndroidForums.com they have metro pcs phones in there
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Thats not true at all. If they were all exactly the same they'd have one root method for all the devices.
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I was able to root my metropcs S4 using the instructions for the T-Mobile version. But now I can't see the contents of my SD card. The funny thing is when I install CyanogenMod, I can see it just fine. The Sd card seems to not be mounting in CWM or in the stock rom. Is this a permissions issue or what? Any help would be appreciated.
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Thats not true at all. If they were all exactly the same they'd have one root method for all the devices.
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If it wasn't all the same devices then people couldn't flash roms in between carriers and international. These are the same phone hardware. Only thing that change is the modem. Unlike the S3 where you can't flash roms from international but you can between US carriers.
And for root. On my S3 they had to get a stock rom Odin with root in there because it would striped the flash counter.
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If it wasn't all the same devices then people couldn't flash roms in between carriers and international. These are the same phone hardware. Only thing that change is the modem. Unlike the S3 where you can't flash roms from international but you can between US carriers.
And for root. On my S3 they had to get a stock rom Odin with root in there because it would striped the flash counter.
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That's not entirely true. Most of the s4's are the same excluding the i9500.
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XDA dont use lower class carriers like MetroPCS and Cricket. You could go to AndroidForums.com they have metro pcs phones in there
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You seem unaware of this: T-Mobile not only bought MetroPCS a few months back but are using their own network mainly -- not simply MetroPCS's -- for the Galaxy S4 currently sold by MetroPCS.
The whole reason I bought a MetroPCS S4 is because I can use it anywhere in the US that you can access the T-Mobile network and because I can unlock it and switch to T-Mobile if I like in three months' time.
Both T-Mobile and MetroPCS have confirmed this, and it isn't true for any other current MetroPCs phone.
Also: Most analysts have concluded that the introduction of a cutting-edge phone like the S4 is unprecedented for that carrier and is likely T-Mobile's idea.
The phone was was $100 cheaper than from T-Mobile and the monthly service is a lot less expensive (unless you can use Google Voice with a legacy plan on T-Mobile).
So why was it again that you felt the standards of XDA members were too high for them to use MetroPCS?
Oh, and the single difference in iterations of the phone itself appears to be one added letter. T-Mobile's S4 is the M919; the MetroPCS/T-Mobile version is M919N.
Those are the reasons I'm hoping that someone at XDA might confirm that this is essentially the T-Mobile iteration.
For people who've been wondering whether these iterations of the S4 are the same:
They really are.
Have a look at this conversation between a person rooting their MetroPCS S4 and a ROM dev for the MetroPCS S3:
http://androidforums.com/metropcs-galaxy-s4-all-things-root/740568-metro-pcs-gs4-root-sgh-m919n.html
the metropcs sgs4 is literally the same device as the tmo one with a new model number, after talking with the cm folk it seems they arent going to make a seperate build, just adding support to the tmobile one
when you install rom manager and tell it to flash cwm you can pick the tmobile/metropcs variant
thanks, and no there wont be any updates as far as you can tell, you are best off . . . installing it and choosing tmobile sgs4 as the recovery.
this phone is so tmobile they dont even mention metropcs in the apn's to connect to data :/
after consulting with the cm guys they arent even going to do a separate cyanogenmod build for the metropcs versions, you guys will be expected to flash the tmobile roms.
everything ive been told is use teh tmo cm10.1 builds (id hold off on 10.2 for now). make a nandroid, if it doesnt work out well revert
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Son in the end, is it gonna get its own forum section or would any tmo ROM work with it? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the s4 use MetroPCS' LTE and TMobile's HSPA+ 3G, thereby bringing the best of both, real LTE and high speed 3g?
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I've used the T-Mobile variant root process for my my metro S4, but it breaks wifi. Remove the root, wifi works. Is there no root for the MetroPCS variant that has EVERYTHING working on it?
Let me know
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I've used the T-Mobile variant root process for my my metro S4, but it breaks wifi. Remove the root, wifi works. Is there no root for the MetroPCS variant that has EVERYTHING working on it?
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I would love that. My Rooted G2x fell into the Ocean and I run my old ........(ok don't get scared young people) Nokia 6310i (Battery last 4 1/2 days btw). I was considering the S4 w Metro. Good exp. with the lte speed? Any exp. w/ Tethering etc?
sooo
so no one here knows how to root the metro s4? cause i bricked mine using the cf root for tmobile
Why dont you stop by here:
http://androidforums.com/metropcs-galaxy-s4-all-things-root/
Its a place for the MetroPCS S4
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so no one here knows how to root the metro s4? cause i bricked mine using the cf root for tmobile
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I've had no problem using CF-Auto-Root method on my two metro S4s. Have rooted, unrooted, and rerooted a couple times without issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005 post #2 is how you root metro s4.
Do you have latest version of Odin, Samsung USB drivers installed, and Kies turned off? If you have all these covered, it should be just downloading and flashing the CF-Auto-Root TAR file and done. Not sure why your phone would be bricked from this.
I know it is late but if you are still using metoPCS S4 then root is now very simple.you can do that with Odin.You have to download CF-Root file.Then just Flash it via Odin Flashing tool.Done!!
Root Metro PCS S4 running Kitkat-->>http://rootmygalaxy.net/root-metro-pcs-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-m919n/
Root MetroPCS S4 running Jelly bean 4.3 -->>http://www.andromods.com/root-unlock/sgh-m919n-metropcs-galaxy-s4-mk5-rooted.html
I don't have Metro PCS S4 so i haven't tested any of these.So do a research before following these guides.
Ok so I've searched here..and google but i don't know if I've read right or not...
Here's the question. .I had a AT&T Note i717...unlocked and was getting full blown 4Glte and I know unlocked AT&T versions of the S3 will also get the full lte treatment because of the refarming of towers and T-Mobiles own lte growth.
I'll go ahead and put my flame suite on
Can I flash an AT&T variant S3 modem to the T999 and be safe and get T-Mobile lte or is it a hardware difference?
Any pointers-tips-insults-welcome.
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Hardware is different. will it work? who knows... Until someone tries it we wont know the result.
It should be ok to try since they are on the same partitions and as far as i know those are the same size. But im not making any promise that it wont brick your phone either. Its up to you if you want to try, but as with almost everything around here, there is always a risk.
I'm interested to know how this works out.
Does not work.
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Hey guys, since T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader, are you guys able to flash other carriers roms like at&t?
I'm only asking because im on an AT&T model, but eventually want to flash T-Mobile roms once our bootloader is unlocked for wifi calling.
cuongfucius said:
Hey guys, since T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader, are you guys able to flash other carriers roms like at&t?
I'm only asking because im on an AT&T model, but eventually want to flash T-Mobile roms once our bootloader is unlocked for wifi calling.
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It would require some tweaking, but in the base idea, yes, they're all the same (with different radios and likely different kernels). You'll want to just wait a little bit and have devs port to the other models. However, your goal of getting wifi calling likely won't work. Maybe I've been out of the loop, but last I checked the app registers your phone number with the T-Mobile network so it knows where to forward calls/texts to. So it more than likely won't work for AT&T/Verizon. I believe Sprint has it now, but same method.
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It would require some tweaking, but in the base idea, yes, they're all the same (with different radios and likely different kernels). You'll want to just wait a little bit and have devs port to the other models. However, your goal of getting wifi calling likely won't work. Maybe I've been out of the loop, but last I checked the app registers your phone number with the T-Mobile network so it knows where to forward calls/texts to. So it more than likely won't work for AT&T/Verizon. I believe Sprint has it now, but same method.
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hi sorry, i left out a big important detail. I'm on t-mobile lol. so it would work for me. This is my first lg phone, and i've been on many other phones where we can easily cross flash carriers without the need of porting the roms. I was under the impression that the at&t model was slightly different? i should revisit that again just to be sure.
I was hoping if there was any hard evidence or experience that someone did flash an at&t rom without any hiccups. That'll mean we can do it vice versa.
Thanks for the info.
On other phones this has been possible, I would wait for a definite answer, or make sure you have a backup ready just in case you do try it...
I am on Verizon and I was also wondering if I can flash a T-mobile rom without the risk of an hard brick. I can take the risk of a SW brick.
Why would you want to do this
I'd be careful, there are probably significant differences, you can't use a vz phone on tmo network.
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I'd be careful, there are probably significant differences, you can't use a vz phone on tmo network.
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I'm pretty certain that all Vzw phones come unlocked and can be used on t-mobile. Might not get all the bands to work correctly, but will still work.
Vz runs a cdma network for voice and data, t-mobile runs gsm. Some phones can do both, eg Verizon's world phones, but by no means all of them. YMMV
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Vz runs a cdma network for voice and data, t-mobile runs gsm. Some phones can do both, eg Verizon's world phones, but by no means all of them. YMMV
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If it is 4g it should be a "world" phone.
Here's the details: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
While the G3 isn't listed, the G2 is so I would assume it will work.
I have flashed a Verizon rom on my T-Mobile phone and almost everything worked fine. You'll need to adjust the apn and delete Bluetooth apn as it fc. The OP stated that he will most likely make a patch to fix the problems
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Did u flash over kernel etc?
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Did u flash over kernel etc?
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Yes I flashed the stock d851 kernel after flashing the ROM and before booting
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