All Devs I beg and plead with you to either have a Non-BEATS audio version of your ROMS or to have it as an optional add-on. I ask this because BEATS audio makes changes to all music you play and I for one along with many others do not like the changes it makes. It seems that every single new version of ROM that comes out has this built in. I have looked high and low and cannot find a way to remove it form the .zip file or even how to remove it after it is installed.
I deeply respect all the work that you do and am very thankful for everything you guys are doing to make our phones better. I understand many people are asking to have BEATS audio added and you are in turn abiding the request.
If anyone wants to know my reasons for not wanting BEATS audio I will be happy to fill you in or you can look at my post history.
One last Thank you to all the Devs for all your hard work and also thank you for even considering my plea, whether or not you are able to fulfill it.
Beats Audio is cool for people who swear by Skull Candy, I guess. Other than that... I'd rather have it optional please!
While everyone has their opinions, and yours is definitely valid, remember that these developers are developing roms based on what they want to make. If they want to put Beats in, its their choice.
Though I think it would be nice if someone would make the files/modifications needed to disable beats ourselves, its out of my knowledge to do so but that would be the proper thing to do rather than expecting developers to change their roms.
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All Devs I beg and plead with you to either have a Non-BEATS audio version of your ROMS or to have it as an optional add-on. I ask this because BEATS audio makes changes to all music you play and I for one along with many others do not like the changes it makes. It seems that every single new version of ROM that comes out has this built in. I have looked high and low and cannot find a way to remove it form the .zip file or even how to remove it after it is installed.
I deeply respect all the work that you do and am very thankful for everything you guys are doing to make our phones better. I understand many people are asking to have BEATS audio added and you are in turn abiding the request.
If anyone wants to know my reasons for not wanting BEATS audio I will be happy to fill you in or you can look at my post history.
One last Thank you to all the Devs for all your hard work and also thank you for even considering my plea, whether or not you are able to fulfill it.
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Master & Slave has that capability with his new rom paradox paradise. In order for you to activate beats audio, you need to use dsp manager. So there you go. Gotta love options
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Team Kang probably won't incorporate Beats into their ROMs since they keep it close to stock but with common sense extras that appeal to everyone. As long as Juggernaut and its future releases are Beats-free, I don't see the need to flash anything else for myself.
And yes, Beats are for people with Skullcandy and lower tier phones/IEMs. I'm happy with my Panasonic HJE900K with Poweramp producing sound the way it should be.
What I don't get is why would you flash beats when volume + has beats emulation in it. It's not even all that great. Just really too much bass.
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Beats Audio sounds terrible.
I agree. I flashed the zip without making a nandroid and now I'm wishing there was a zip to remove it. The only noticeable thing it does is increases the bass too much. I like bass but not to this level. Whenever I plug my phone into my car the bass is just overwhelming to the point where the treble is just muffled. Besides our sound card, if you can call it that, is already good as it is. In some sense its better than my 2022 MBP's output with the stock player.
I take it, Beats audio doesn't have the ability (in a system setting somewhere) to disable it? So you can go back to normal?
Download and run Darkside Digital Warfare. It does not have any of that extraneous crap baked into it. It will also be one of the best ROM's you will ever run as far as snappiness and battery life.
I have it running via dsp manager so u can enable and disable
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DannyB513 said:
Download and run Darkside Digital Warfare. It does not have any of that extraneous crap baked into it. It will also be one of the best ROM's you will ever run as far as snappiness and battery life.
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So far it is my favorite ROM. I put this plea out because I still love trying out new ROMS from time to time and playing music from my device at work and in my car is a MUST HAVE, CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT feature. And Beats Auido ruins that for me. If only one ROM ends out not having Beats then that limits me to just one viable choice. As other have replied, I am not the only one that thinks this way.
But yes, thank you for the recommendation of Darkside, I have a Nandroid backup for that ROM that I will go back to if I don't find another Daily.
Not sure if SlickMod 3.4 has Beats but DSP Manager wasn't in the base install. Simply installing DSP Manager from the market doesn't work. I to like clean sound and found a workaround with Root Toolbox Pro which has the option to install Cyanogen's DSP Manager, apparently at the system level. The quality coming thru a Bluetooth FM transmitter to my car stereo is as clean as a CD played directly from the player.
A golden app worth mega bucks would be one that would raise and lower the volume depending on surrounding noise. A pink noise generator to set the eq for varied conditions. Hi-end Alpine car stereos started having that option in the mid 80's. The SGS2 has the hardware needed.
I found that if the CPU Freq was set low when first starting an audio file, DSP Manager would crash when trying to change a setting and I would have to reboot.
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I found that if the CPU Freq was set low when first starting an audio file, DSP Manager would crash when trying to change a setting and I would have to reboot.
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Flash Paradox and noone will post in this thread again
M&S
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So far it is my favorite ROM. I put this plea out because I still love trying out new ROMS from time to time and playing music from my device at work and in my car is a MUST HAVE, CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT feature. And Beats Auido ruins that for me. If only one ROM ends out not having Beats then that limits me to just one viable choice. As other have replied, I am not the only one that thinks this way.
But yes, thank you for the recommendation of Darkside, I have a Nandroid backup for that ROM that I will go back to if I don't find another Daily.
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Why not just delete/disable the files that are required to make it work. Not the cleanest way to do things, but probably would kill the software from running, thus giving you what you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440986
Scroll this page. There is one post with links. But instead of relying on a zip flash file, open up these files. Look inside specifically at what lib files or apk file in system are running and just delete them yourself.
Again, not the cleanest method of doing things. Or look for the references in build.prop. Most developers will annotate the build.prop file to specifically show some instances for the enhanced audio. Just simply try a quick edit and reboot to see that the audio is back to stock sound. Just a thought
Again, and I repeat this...Nandroid backup first. I don't need any blame on what I made you do
Hello, guys. I guess you could call me somewhat a noob, since I got my Galaxy Nexus just three days ago. I had a SGS2, Motorola ATRIX and a few HTC devices before, so I'm not THAT much of a noob, but with this device, I'm a starter.
When I had the HTC's, all kernels (which were not so many) were substantially different from each other. On the ATRIX, there was only one famous and good, so... it doesn't count. On the S2, there were so many, I decided I'd better go with MIUI and seal the deal.
On the Galaxy Nexus, I have AOKP, right now, and am using franco's latest kernel (milestone-4).
The only troubles I am having is with the earpiece. During calls, I can hardly hear the person at the other end if I'm in a crowded area - problem I never encountered before on any of my previous devices. I see most kernels (if not all of them) have ColorControl and SoundControl, but I must pay for the kernel developer's app in order to be able to control those... and I might do that.
But, until I do so, please help me out. Which kernel is the best? I mean, I wouldn't really wanna spend money on franco's app, for example, to find out later that GLaDOS is better; besides, I'm not really much of an app-buyer, so-to-say. So I really want this decision to be a good one, lol.
Besides, there's one factor that's kind of making me wonder... The earpiece volume shouldn't be this low, and the necessity of buying the dev app in order to be able to increase it shouldn't really exist. I mean, this is such a basic thing... Or perhaps I'm wrong.
I want to ask : did YOU have to increase the stock volume (not by pressing the volume buttons, of course)? And if you did, how did you do it? I'd like to try a free app for the time being...
And, secondly : what kernel would you suggest?
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I'm really sorry for being such a noob right now, but given the short time I had since I have the GN, I didn't really get to scout all of the threads and such... and I kind of want a very quick answer, so that's why I'm daring to ask. Plus, my exams just finished, so I'll have more time to chime in the dev topics, but still...
Try Volume+ to amplify your headset speaker. There is a free version. If this doesn't work you can download ANY kernel app and use it on basically ANY kernel since they all use the same implementation of the mods. It isn't necessary for me but it is nice to have it a little louder.
If you don't want to use the apps you can learn how to do it manually as they all have the option of editing settings through terminal I believe.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
joshnichols189 said:
Try Volume+ to amplify your headset speaker. There is a free version. If this doesn't work you can download ANY kernel app and use it on basically ANY kernel since they all use the same implementation of the mods. It isn't necessary for me but it is nice to have it a little louder.
If you don't want to use the apps you can learn how to do it manually as they all have the option of editing settings through terminal I believe.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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I tried Volume+ (free). I even increased the Maximum Volume by +4, but I notice NO DIFFERENCE at all . Tried it on Speaker, Headset and Bluetooth... none of them do ANYTHING :/
I tried this on my EVO 3D in the past - just out of curiosity. It didn't work then, neither. I kind of expected it to not work now, as well...
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Well as I mentioned, they all use the same implementation of sound control.
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Well as I mentioned, they all use the same implementation of sound control.
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So, if Volume+ doesn't do anything, franco's app or GLaDOS's app won't do anything, as well, right? :/
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I was using franco's kernel on AOKP until now and the color multipliers from Settings - ROM Control - Performance didn't do ANYTHING. The colors were not changing as I adjusted the gauges.
I just flashed CMPlus and the color settings from Performance DO work - although they don't help my purple-gray tint when the screen brightness is low... but that makes me think that franco may have blocked the kernel in such way that only with his app you can change those - not through the embedded settings.
Anyway, Volume+ didn't do a thing with this kernel, neither. Why the hell? Is the earpiece speaker already set to the maximum volume? Cause if it is, it really sucks. The app either isn't doing anything, or the earpiece speaker is already at maximum - which seems kind of retarded, to be honest, since I must drop calls if I'm crossing the street, for example (`cause I wouldn't hear the person at the other end)...
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So, if Volume+ doesn't do anything, franco's app or GLaDOS's app won't do anything, as well, right? :/
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Volume+ and the kernels do two different things. Volume+ might not work, but a kernel WILL help.
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Volume+ and the kernels do two different things. Volume+ might not work, but a kernel WILL help.
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Oh... I thought by "both all same the implementation of sound control" you meant that Volume+ uses the same method as franco's app... And since Volume+ didn't do anything, it was fair to assume that neither would franco's app...
Wrong, they will.
But to clarify:
Volume control mods from the kernels only adjust headset volume. FYI.
Secondly:
Try Lean Kernel.
Not only do I personally love it...
But Jake makes Lean Tweaks.
Which you edit through terminal.
(Flash Kernel. Flash Lean Tweaks. Open Terminal Emulator: Su (enter) lt (enter) and the options will appear).
These tweaks include the sound mods.
For free.
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Wrong, they will.
But to clarify:
Volume control mods from the kernels only adjust headset volume. FYI.
Secondly:
Try Lean Kernel.
Not only do I personally love it...
But Jake makes Lean Tweaks.
Which you edit through terminal.
(Flash Kernel. Flash Lean Tweaks. Open Terminal Emulator: Su (enter) lt (enter) and the options will appear).
These tweaks include the sound mods.
For free.
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Guess I'll have to give that a try, once my phone charges up...! Thank you!
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For the record, last night, my phone's battery dropped from ~22% to 8% over 9 hours. 2G/3G auto (full 3G coverage, though), Wi-Fi off, screen off. The phone WAS in deep sleep, because CPU Spy told me that. That was with franco's kernel.
I'm using CMPlus for the time being, but I'll try Lean in a couple of hours. I hope it works :-S
Erm... mind dropping me a link to the kernel thread? I can't find it here, on XDA - and it is not listed on the ROM/kernel/everything thread, neither...
Oh, nevermind, I should have Google searched, not XDA searched
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Oh... I thought by "both all same the implementation of sound control" you meant that Volume+ uses the same method as franco's app... And since Volume+ didn't do anything, it was fair to assume that neither would franco's app...
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I meant all of the kernels use the same implementation, sorry.
Low-speaker volume is an issue, but headset speaker volume shouldn't be too awful.
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I meant all of the kernels use the same implementation, sorry.
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That was my second thought
joshnichols189 said:
Low-speaker volume is an issue, but headset speaker volume shouldn't be too awful.
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The speaker is low, alright. In comparision with the S2 I previously had, yeah, it is somewhat lower. But the headset volume on the S2 was just great. On the GN, it is substantially lower :/ . I never had to drop calls when I was in traffic with my previous phones...
Formhault said:
That was my second thought
The speaker is low, alright. In comparision with the S2 I previously had, yeah, it is somewhat lower. But the headset volume on the S2 was just great. On the GN, it is substantially lower :/ . I never had to drop calls when I was in traffic with my previous phones...
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Do try the kernel implementations of sound controls then- they are a much bigger improvement than volume+
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13092-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-390-6912/page__st__9600#entry649976
Check this out as well, if you don't feel like flashing another kernel.
Your current might have the same files to edit.
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Do try the kernel implementations of sound controls then- they are a much bigger improvement than volume+
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I will... once my cash comes to the credit card
Jubakuba said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13092-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-390-6912/page__st__9600#entry649976
Check this out as well, if you don't feel like flashing another kernel.
Your current might have the same files to edit.
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Changed the value from 0 to 3 (in volume_boost) and I notice no difference with the speaker OR the earpiece... Guess I'll just have to try LeanKernel, maybe this kernel I'm using isn't really that great when it comes to sound control
I don't get why the developers claim it has Sound Control and all if it DOES NOT WORK...
Formhault said:
I will... once my cash comes to the credit card
Changed the value from 0 to 3 (in volume_boost) and I notice no difference with the speaker OR the earpiece... Guess I'll just have to try LeanKernel, maybe this kernel I'm using isn't really that great when it comes to sound control
I don't get why the developers claim it has Sound Control and all if it DOES NOT WORK...
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They may have implemented the same implementation in different ways If you want one that FOR SURE LIKE 100% TOTALLY works, use GLaDOS and the respective app. The author of GLaDOS is the one who originally implemented sound control and is the one that others use.
joshnichols189 said:
They may have implemented the same implementation in different ways If you want one that FOR SURE LIKE 100% TOTALLY works, use GLaDOS and the respective app. The author of GLaDOS is the one who originally implemented sound control and is the one that others use.
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Hmm, I see.
I'm using LeanKernel (v3.9, stable) for the moment, with LeanTweaks. I enabled Highest Sound Boost, but am not noticing any improvement in earpiece volume :/
I'm beginning to be very sceptical about this... whether it would work with GLaDOS's app :/
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By the way... Would GLaDOS's app work with other kernels, as well? Or it is SPECIFICALLY ONLY for that kernel?
I remember you said something that it would work with others, too... I can't load the previous page to check, though :/
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Formhault said:
Hmm, I see.
I'm using LeanKernel (v3.9, stable) for the moment, with LeanTweaks. I enabled Highest Sound Boost, but am not noticing any improvement in earpiece volume :/
I'm beginning to be very sceptical about this... whether it would work with GLaDOS's app :/
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By the way... Would GLaDOS's app work with other kernels, as well? Or it is SPECIFICALLY ONLY for that kernel?
I remember you said something that it would work with others, too... I can't load the previous page to check, though :/
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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If any of them are going to work it is GLaDOS since the author is the one who actually coded the sound control in. I don't know how Franco/Lean Kernel work, but I know for a fact that GLaDOS and similar (CMPlus) will work. If they don't, you might need an exchange.
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If any of them are going to work it is GLaDOS since the author is the one who actually coded the sound control in. I don't know how Franco/Lean Kernel work, but I know for a fact that GLaDOS and similar (CMPlus) will work. If they don't, you might need an exchange.
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Guess I'll just have to create a secondary XDA account and ask in the GLaDOS thread about that . Just so I don't get rocks thrown at me on THIS account, lol.
Nah, I'll just ask in there, haha.
Hello everyone. I am currently running mROM by mwalt2. The rom itself is fantastic, no bugs, great battery life. However, the trouble I am having is that I don't always hear notifications when they occur. RIngtones are usually fine, but notifications are a bit frustrating. I know this is a stock problem on the gnex but I am trying to find some proven methods that increase notification volume. I am a bit new, but I do know various kernels, have their own sound control support. Does this sound control actually increase notification volume? Right now I am using the kernel that came with mROM, but I was looking at Tiny, Lean, and others. Does anyone have proven experience with any specifics kernels and how they increases notification volume? Any step by step would be greatly appreciated.
Also, has anyone tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1748803 Any thoughts or success stories? Thanks!
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Hello everyone. I am currently running mROM by mwalt2. The rom itself is fantastic, no bugs, great battery life. However, the trouble I am having is that I don't always hear notifications when they occur. RIngtones are usually fine, but notifications are a bit frustrating. I know this is a stock problem on the gnex but I am trying to find some proven methods that increase notification volume. I am a bit new, but I do know various kernels, have their own sound control support. Does this sound control actually increase notification volume? Right now I am using the kernel that came with mROM, but I was looking at Tiny, Lean, and others. Does anyone have proven experience with any specifics kernels and how they increases notification volume? Any step by step would be greatly appreciated.
Also, has anyone tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1748803 Any thoughts or success stories? Thanks!
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Kernel sound tweaks only modify headphone volume.
The simplest solution I can come up with would be to rip the .ogg files out and increase their gain...
Then swap 'em back in.
Thanks for the reply. You're the first to clarify this for me.
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Thanks for the reply. You're the first to clarify this for me.
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1. Put speaker part inside cup/glass
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3. Victory!
Some equalisers can increase speaker gain, but the downside is sound quality.
Swype'ed on my CM10 Galaxy Nexus
After all this time now the only ROMs out there that are TouchWiz Based are
Tweaked
Jedi Master
Right? Is this really the only set of options we have? I need to have WiFi Calling and both of these ROMs seem to have issues... one with WiFi not even wanting to work half the time (Jedi) and the other making it sound like the conversation is taking place inside of a can (Tweaked)... Any other suggestions aside from Odin to Stock??
Look in Android development. There's more then those 2 or you could make us one. DROID premium has a fairly popular AOSP themed and I have a little project*it is in hold until 4.3 though) By the way I ran tweaked for a long time and never had a problem with sound quality. Dwitherell doesn't add in any sound mods except the optional volume boost so there should be no change from stock. Having said that you could try a different kernel or done sound mods, I recommend Viper audio.
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Did you report your issue with Tweaked in the tweaked thread and I missed it? If so my apologies - as kintwofan said there was nothing directly done to the rom to alter call quality. Did you use any of the sound mods? What kernel were you using? Was this on wifi calling? Did this happen right away after installing the rom (before any themes/mods)? Did the "can" effect always happen regardless of location (so no matter what tower your phone may be connected to)?
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Did you report your issue with Tweaked in the tweaked thread and I missed it? If so my apologies - as kintwofan said there was nothing directly done to the rom to alter call quality. Did you use any of the sound mods? What kernel were you using? Was this on wifi calling? Did this happen right away after installing the rom (before any themes/mods)? Did the "can" effect always happen regardless of location (so no matter what tower your phone may be connected to)?
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I did not maybe I should though... not certain its a ROM issue. That's why I wanted to try another one. I really like Tweaked so far but the sound is off.
Hi. I have some questions regarding this device, for which I've bought for my son as an Xmas gift.
Firstly I've noticed a few things and confirmed things I've researched about this device:
- It is based on Android, which was obvious as soon as I side loaded es file explorer and checked out the SD contents.
- It is running at around 30-50% of its full potential, due to the super persistent Amazon apps that run in the background, and low amount of customisation options.
- The advertisements on the lock screen... WTF.
- Unable to use mx player pro as a default video player for lovefilm, which sucks.
- The carousel is nice looking but it auto adds things which is highly annoying.
- The parental controls are good.
So that's just a small list and I'm sure I haven't quite listed everything yet but I want to move onto some questions about rooting the device:
1. Does rooting and installing cyanogenmod improve the memory use and performance? May be an obvious answer but it's always good to know people's opinions.
2. Can any of the Amazon apps be used on cyanogenmod, so that the device still feels like a Kindle. E.g. the launcher and carousel, and the parental controls? I like the big HD icons. This will be used regularly by my son so I need strong security controls.
3. Being an unofficial port, does cm come with any usual and/or unusual bugs? Such as rotation bugs, fcs and reboots.
4. Does cm use the full quality of the sound and display? The resolution and sound quality is great as it is, I'd hate to sacrifice those for better memory.
5. Anything else that I might expect or information that would be helpful please.
FYI I've unlocked, rooted and flashed many devices, so I know roughly the benefits and disadvantages.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
Want to know how to boost your devices performance and battery life? See my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495269
Your questions about cm are moot at the moment as there's no unlocked bootloader so can't install custom ROMs at this time.
In regards to the Amazon apps, try using greenify to hibernate them if you're rooted. I seem to recall it can hibernate system apps but it's not recommended, so I don't know what functionality will be lost or even if it'll be stable.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
Note the thread title... I'm in the wrong forum! Haha sorry! Thanks for the reply though. :what:
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
Want to know how to boost your devices performance and battery life? See my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495269
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Hi. I have some questions regarding this device, for which I've bought for my son as an Xmas gift.
Firstly I've noticed a few things and confirmed things I've researched about this device:
- It is based on Android, which was obvious as soon as I side loaded es file explorer and checked out the SD contents.
- It is running at around 30-50% of its full potential, due to the super persistent Amazon apps that run in the background, and low amount of customisation options.
- The advertisements on the lock screen... WTF.
- Unable to use mx player pro as a default video player for lovefilm, which sucks.
- The carousel is nice looking but it auto adds things which is highly annoying.
- The parental controls are good.
So that's just a small list and I'm sure I haven't quite listed everything yet but I want to move onto some questions about rooting the device:
1. Does rooting and installing cyanogenmod improve the memory use and performance? May be an obvious answer but it's always good to know people's opinions.
2. Can any of the Amazon apps be used on cyanogenmod, so that the device still feels like a Kindle. E.g. the launcher and carousel, and the parental controls? I like the big HD icons. This will be used regularly by my son so I need strong security controls.
3. Being an unofficial port, does cm come with any usual and/or unusual bugs? Such as rotation bugs, fcs and reboots.
4. Does cm use the full quality of the sound and display? The resolution and sound quality is great as it is, I'd hate to sacrifice those for better memory.
5. Anything else that I might expect or information that would be helpful please.
FYI I've unlocked, rooted and flashed many devices, so I know roughly the benefits and disadvantages.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
Want to know how to boost your devices performance and battery life? See my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495269
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answered here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553490