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I hope this is a resonable ?.... what is rooting, what's the benifits, should I or shouldn't I root my phone, and can u unroot? Simply can u explain to a intrested and user who likes to take it to maximum capeabilities.! Thnx 4 your input pros!
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qbking77 made some awesome videos that explains most everything, but the simplest answer is to run applications that require root access such as wireless tether, titanium backup, and get full access to your system. Of course the next step is to put on custom rom's to get rid of sprint bloatware. Watch the videos and make your own call. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997
If you don't know why you should root, you probably shouldn't be. There's no shame in not rooting, but rooting just to root is pretty stupid.
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If you don't know why you should root, you probably shouldn't be. There's no shame in not rooting, but rooting just to root is pretty stupid.
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I think his reason for asking is to avoid "rooting just to root"...
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There's a rooting WIKI stickied at the top of the Q&A section that explains a lot about rooting. See link below..this is a section of the wiki that I think can answer a lot of your questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067
Good luck and remember...don't go down this path if you're not willing to do a lot of reading and you're willing to deal with the possibility of turning your phone into a paperweight. The more you research you do the less likely that this will happen.
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I hope this is a resonable ?.... what is rooting, what's the benifits, should I or shouldn't I root my phone, and can u unroot? Simply can u explain to a intrested and user who likes to take it to maximum capeabilities.! Thnx 4 your input pros!
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Rooting just to root can give you some nice backup options, but on stock I never personally found a need to restore anything. So that's not a huge reason to do it, and besides, MyBackup Pro can handle all your backup needs non-rooted.
Moving on, as mentioned higher up, one of the biggest reasons for rooting is for Wifi Tethering without using Sprint's Hotspot. You're paying for the data, it only seems right that you should be able to use that great power on other devices as well. That said, don't abuse it unnecessarily .
Many people will root simply to take advantage of theming options, changing the lockscreen appearance, pull-down menu, icons, launcher, startup/shutdown animations, and the appearance of system apps. That mentioned... you can remove annoying system apps that otherwise can't be removed.
Finally, but certainly the most exciting, rooting allows you to take advantage of the many custom roms floating around XDA! That is, it allows you to essentially replace the phones operating system with one of the many custom rebuilt versions, enabling new features, removing bloatware, increasing battery life and more than doubling performance speeds!
Personally, I do it for all of these reasons! Check out the links in my signature for my favorite modifications.
Good Reasons To Root:
Applications Like-
1.ADFREE-ZERO ADS In 90% Of apps
2.Wireless Tether/Wired Tether- Free Internet Sharing
3.Titanium Backup- Backup everything on a schedule at a time that u arent using your phone so u never lose apps or text messages, contacts and other important stuff
4. SDX Stock App Removal- Remove Outdated or Bloatware that you dont want.
5. Custom Roms/Kernals- Make it so u can have a more reliable faster phone and undervolt and overclock the kernal meaning- make you phone faster then its suppose to go and make it go slower to save battery, as well as NO Carrior IQ Adgent Service on some roms- meaning sprint cant track your personal info..
6. Custom Themes- Meaning custom pulldowns,custom menus , fonts and all that fun stuff
7. Mods: Including themes, Battery mods,Hulu mod, and way too many to keep track of.
BAD Reasons To Root:
1. If you dont read and know how to get back to a fresh state you could very possibly brick your phone or soft brick it.
2.Void Warranty-However if you know read up on ODIN, u can flash back to stock and they will never know
3. Thats all i got in my opinion for bad
If you want to root just make sure you read all instructions on how to and read about odin/titatanium backup/and nandroid backups as Those are life savers.
Hope this helps, dont forget to hit thanks or checkout dropbox if u find this info helpful
Have a nice day
dkechitkid said:
Good luck and remember...don't go down this path if you're not willing to do a lot of reading and you're willing to deal with the possibility of turning your phone into a paperweight. The more you research you do the less likely that this will happen.
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This is why i dont root. Even though i've been here since October lol
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Always root at least to remove.bloatware
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I have to greatly compliment you on your informative and very professional reply. Thanx abunch. You answerd all i wanted to know without asking. I hope you respond again to my endless need to master this piece of technology. ROCK ON BRO!!
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The only reason why i would want to root my Xperia Arc is to clear the unwanted apps and hopefully it will run faster ( u guys call it bloatware if im not wrong) , should i take the risk?
Or are there any useful apps that can help to speed up my phone without rooting?
Edit : Oh And what are the Dos and Donts of rooting ? Like do download an app to backup certain stuff and dont do something or your phone might get bricked etc..
Thanks in advance!
Keep backups and read what you need to do before you do it.
There are some risks, but generally it is straight forward.
Just removing bloat makes a huge difference to the phone.
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using gingerbreak seemed to work pretty well for me and i have had no problems since - removed all the bloatware and much happier - just be careful you know what you are removing and also be aware that once you remove system apps you might not be able to update via OTA updates (I am not 100% sure of this, just from what I have read on here)
generally the benefits far outweigh the cons
Hello all, i recently bought Note2. I switched over from my 2 years old HTC desire which i had rooted in the very first month for various reasons.
Just to give you a background i am not against rooting. But i believe, since we are taking this risk, it should really be worth it. For my HTC, it had 128 mb of internal memory, no official upgrades and i loved cm. So it was all worth it.
Looking at Note2 it a better looking version of cyanogenmod. (off-course will a few features missing). Although i was used to reflashing my Desire every month, i havent found any substantial reason for rooting NOTE2. It has regular updates biggass memory and HDD. very fast CPU
Only thing i miss is a more powerful flashlight (Torch) and a stock 5x5 TW launcher (i am using go launcher now to leverage the screen real estate). So apart from this and that i've heard Gmail 4.2 has pinch and zoom. I havent heard of any substantial gains by rooting NOTE2.
Please list what are the advantages of rooting NOTE2. i know the advantages of rooting in genral. i am specifically talking of note 2. Also i dont want to you all to list advantages like nandroid backup CWM recovery etc. since my contacts sms / call logs and apps are already being backed up at google / dropbox / Evernote.. I am loking for something substantial.
I have a post questioning the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943960
Baisically the only reason I woukd root is for the following (might not apply to you):
OpenVPN with TAP support.
SSH tunnel
TitaniumBackup
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The Note 2 will be the first phone I don't root. There's really no need, IMO.
The Samsung software with it's S-Pen features is a bit too complex to trust "ROM chefs" and such. I'll just enjoy it as-is.
Also other fonts and "adfree" are reasons for me
Greetings.
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rumy said:
I have a post questioning the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943960
Baisically the only reason I woukd root is for the following (might not apply to you):
OpenVPN with TAP support.
SSH tunnel
TitaniumBackup
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Thanks for the quick response. Specially the link. Most folks on the thread state that custom roms or even root has not been a great benefit to them in case of Note2. i do not need the above functionality you mentioned since the only reason i need vpn / ssh is to connect to work. Which i do from my laptop. But i will be on the look out for anything that pops up. Thanks again
My reason for rooting ANY android phone is...
Adaway
I'm sick and tired of flashing custom roms because I have found that after playing around with stock roms, I revert back to "stock firmware" anyway. So i just stick to stock samsung firmware. There really is no need to root for other than getting rid of the adds (i use adaway).
1. Titanium backup
2. Nandroid Backup
3. Debloat the rom with stuff i don`t need with ROMCleaner
4. Adblocking
5. Flashing mods like increae incall volume, brightess.
6. Flashing stock firmware and keep root with Mobile Odin
7. Raise the readahead values to load up apps, webpages, and other stuff faster
8. Overclock for performance or undervolt the kernel to save power.
Other users might also have other reasons so enough reason to do it i guess
Also to increase the internal storage by switch the external sd card with phones internal memory so making bigger internal memory.
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The Note 2 is not out in the US yet (I'm so tempted to buy the International version) but when I do get it I plan on rooting it for Titanium Backup and Ad Free and a lot of root apps that I use but I don't see a point in flashing a custom ROM on it.. Its so perfect without it.. Wish it came with Tablet mode.. I love having my status bar at the bottom of my screen...
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Also to increase the internal storage by switch the external sd card with phones internal memory so making bigger internal memory.
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+1. In my opinion, this is ultimately the only reason for rooting - all the rest can be done in other ways.
However, some applications like orange cinema series (in France) check if the telephone is rooted - if so they won't work. Ultimately, rooting is becoming a very debatable benefit today - up to the next release of Android 5.0 on the New S5 processor. At that moment, i am sure that Samsung will delay updates as much as they can, since the hardware improvements become more marginal (with the exception, of course, of LTE) and therefore a differentiating factor between latest models and 1 year old devices. And then, all back to AOKP and CM27...
I say this by experience: my galaxy S I9000 works like a charm with Jelly Bean, and it would still be a froyo telephone if i would follow ORANGE F....
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Also to increase the internal storage by switch the external sd card with phones internal memory so making bigger internal memory.
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Do you really need more than 11 gig of internal memory? Assuming you transfer move your songs videos and other pictures etc in ur external.. why do you need more than 11 gb of internal?
Needs a root for things like sixaxis controller. Pretty cool to be able to use a wireless PS3 DualShock controller to play your favorite games.
For me the most important thing about rooting is themes, i hate stock theme(grey windows etc) and i love transparent status bar, other things wich pusch me to go for a root is basicly posibility to remove stock apps, custom kernels wich give u better performance and battery life and offcorse for my mod sd2extsd wich give u oportunity to save more things on ur phone(games and apps)
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I'd have to say solely for themes and removing bloatware with a custom rom to get the most of the ram availability.
11GB is tiny - particularly if you want a coupe of good games (you know you do lol) - apart from the 1-2GB of physical space the app takes (even when storing saves etc on SD) INSTALLING them takes more space and many require several more gigs ONLY during the install process (presume for unpacking etc) so you have to leave a couple of giggs free - leaving you with 8-9GB of usable space - not a lot.
If you use no games at all I agree 11GB might just do but other apps will fill it quick - eg: snote stores all its notes in internal SD (only small but multiply a few notes a day x a couple of years - it all adds up)
My friend has a 16GB SGNI - NO GAMES, but any medical apps (each 20-200M) and he's struggling for space
I just don't want to be limited (that's the whole reason I'm leaving ios for my mobile)
Ad blocking, and Nandroid alone are the main reasons why I rooted my phone..... there's also lucky patcher.....
I think you are confusing rooting with loading up a rom. Rooting is a must for a lot of users who want to customize. For example, let's say you want to use an NFC tag in your car to turn off wifi, turn on bluetooth and turn on GPS. This will work fine all the way up to the GPS part, which requires rooting to make it automated.
As others mentioned, titanium backup and other software needs it as well.
Rooting unlocks possibilities, it isn't loading CM.
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Don't worry about rooting until you find a need for it (get tired of ads, overclocking or just a general love for tweaking the build.prop file or any of the various apps requiring root access). Until then, just enjoy your phone
Advantage of rooting galaxy note 2
One of the advantages of rooting Galaxy note 2 is that it will start ready NTFS hdd and usb on-to-go....
It's not really necessary to root this phone in my opinion. Amazing phone and the first one I've owned which has left me wanting for nothing.
Sent from the mighty Note II
I know there have been threads with the similar titles. But either they were old or were not for my device. Now there are some who might not agree with the "not for my device" part. The thing is that I rooted my phone a few days back and managed to mess it up. Paid a good amount for repair and have not been able to use my camera since then .
But I am willing to risk it all again.
Kindly tell me, in light of your experiences, what all could I remove safely from the system apps and what all I could install to improve the performance. I removed the Email apk and have paid the price already
PS- If the moderators think my post is redundant, my apologies.
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I know there have been threads with the similar titles. But either they were old or were not for my device. Now there are some who might not agree with the "not for my device" part. The thing is that I rooted my phone a few days back and managed to mess it up. Paid a good amount for repair and have not been able to use my camera since then .
But I am willing to risk it all again.
Kindly tell me, in light of your experiences, what all could I remove safely from the system apps and what all I could install to improve the performance. I removed the Email apk and have paid the price already
PS- If the moderators think my post is redundant, my apologies.
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Well installing a custom recovery would be nice. While it wouldn't boost performance it will allow you to make nand backups which you can restore if something goes wrong. Also a custom ROM will increase speed over stock and you will get new features which is also a plus.
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Strange that Email.apk messes up with camera.. I remove it always from the ROMs I install without further issue... But yes, as nerot says, after rooting you must install a custom recovery...
I just found a guide on Android.gadgethacks to disable default Samsung and t-mobile& other carries bloatware, but I saw few guys had problem on xda with it, so I ask u guys is that guide is safe to use and what problems can I get via using? I mean, I just don't need this whole Samsung package, but I afraid that that app might ruin launcher that I couldn't even launch my phone properly after that guide, so guys help me plz with it..
Before uninstalling these apps, make a list with the apps that you want to uninstall and try to understand what each app is doing is how it can impact your phone.