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"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2??

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......

froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.

So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....

I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!

This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472

i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?

I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.

I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.

ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys

XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.

Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here

froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol

demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

[Q] Backlight starting to die?

Don't know if anyone else is experiencing this with their Play but as of a week or two ago the backlight started acting strange. The backlight will randomly stay off when I push the power button with the slider gamepad closed. Only way to make it come on is to pop out the slider. It seems to be random, and if I push on the slider edge slightly with my thumb with the slider closed the backlight randomly flickers, ranging from slight to severe.
The display is still working despite the backlight issues, I can open apps, and use the phone normally but the backlight flickers on and off. Makes it especially hard to use the phone in the dark.
Phone has never been dropped once.
I've replicated this problem with a variety of roms, both custom and stock. It's definitely not app related or even custom kernel related. It happens on a fresh wipe with stock rom with stock kernel. It happens on CM7 with custom kernel.
I'm curious if anybody else is experiencing this. It would tell me if it's just an isolated incident or if others are having this problem.

Sounds like a faulty connection to the backlight to me.

I had the same problem 2 days ago. Then I couldn't get my phone screen on at all!
I sent my phone back to Sony, even thought I bought it second hand. Phoned them up and talked to them. They asked what time of year I bought it so I said around August and then they gave me the address to send it to. Now I'm just waiting to see what happens next.
If your going to send your phone to Sony for repair then make sure you put the fresh firmware back on and un-root your phone as that breaks the warranty (unless they don't know about it)
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Sounds like a faulty ribbon cable to me. (cable that connects the screen to the rest of the phone)
You wouldn't need to drop it for that to go bad, It could just be a case of opening and closing the gamepad or lot.

Yeah good thoughts, most likely the ribbon. That really sucks because I've only had the phone for 7 months, and I've taken excellent care of it. Sounds like a major design oversight.
Mine is probably near complete failure at this point. It's taking a lot more effort to keep the screen on now. Fearing soon it won't work at all.

In hopes that this might help someone else down the line, I was able to fix my problem. Yesterday the screen pretty much quit and I had no choice but to try and solve it myself or buy a new phone.
Using this disassembly video as a visual aid I carefully pulled my phone apart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3n5ZfkqhzE
You'll need a torx T5 tool to pull out all the screws but they are cheap.
Underneath the phone and jammed into the screen ribbon was a rather thick hair just hanging out. Somehow it buried itself in there. I removed it, unplugged and replugged the screen ribbon and cleaned the dusty inside with a q-tip and reassembled it all together.
It works fine now, so hopefully this helps someone else avoid having to pony up for a new phone. For those under warranty probably best to send back but for those like me with no warranty it's worth the shot.

Ghost touches

Anyone else getting the ghost touch problem?
I couldn't work out what was causing this on my phone so I enabled show touches in the development menu and it shows.
It goes from 2 to 3 spots on the left hand side of the screen.
It's not a major problem but happens at least 3 times a day and won't snap out of it unless I put the phone back into sleep a couple of times.
Do you think maybe scratches on the screen cause this?
TIA

Is your phone connected to a charger when this occurs? It might be it, since im experiencing the same thing since htc desire hd.

miHah said:
Is your phone connected to a charger when this occurs? It might be it, since im experiencing the same thing since htc desire hd.
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No. Can happen at anytime. Quite random.
It takes a few on and offs with the sleep button to stop it.
Can't get off the lock screen until it goes away because I can't move the unlock slider.
Very annoying.

I had the same problem - the first day i got my hox. With and without the charger (with charger a litte bit more often i think).
I pushed the complete left side of the screen (top) carefully and now it works well. No more ghost touches ^^.

\/\/iLLow said:
I had the same problem - the first day i got my hox. With and without the charger (with charger a litte bit more often i think).
I pushed the complete left side of the screen (top) carefully and now it works well. No more ghost touches ^^.
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Ok. Once I pushed around the screen edges, the left side has some play and moves maybe a mm with a slight creak.
I push it in but still that little bit of play on the left side.
It's quite impossible to show the service centre the problem because its so random but now I can show them this.
Cheers.

I hope you'll get a new "perfect" hox and i'll not have the same problem later :fingers-crossed:

galaxy s4 randomly shut off???

I've been using my s4 for about 10 days. everything's fine but it has happened like 3 times the phone just shut off itself without me touching it. it's in my pocket, and i was using it like 5mins ago, then when i take it out i found it's totally off already.
the battery had enough juice at the time and the phone didn't feel too warm either. i totally have no clue why this happened. anyone here is experiencing the same thing with your s4? :crying:
for the first two time i can just press and hold the power button to turn it back on. but today when it happened the third time, the press and hold didn't work until i took out the battery and put it back. when it's on, the battery still had like 70% power.
this is frustrating... should i contact t-mobile for an exchange?
p.s. i rooted the phone and from what i can recall, besides titanium backup i didn't install any new app that i didn't have on my old htc sensation. the sensation didn't have this random shutting down problem. (i don't think the titanium caused either).

It used to happen on my s2. But I change roms and it went away.
Change rom and see what happens.
If possiible go full stock for few days.
Otherwise return it.
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I've had my phone since the 2nd. Not 1 error or reboot. I've also been running cm nightlies for the past week as well.
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I actually have a problem when I'm on the Internet or doing other things. My phone just got stock on a blue screen and I can't do anything to get out of it. I hav3 to turn off my phone in order to ho back . It happens to me like 8 times since I got the phone im frustrating
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One question did you install the flash player app from the web
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i didn't install the adobe flash player, nor did i install a different rom. everything is stock. i fully factory reset the phone once and after that i even didn't disable or delete any bloat ware. but the random shutting down still happens... annoying

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Mine has done the same thing twice, first time assumed it was me (before the latest firmware upgrade which "improves stability") the second time it was in my pocket, took it out and it was off - thought battery was dead but tried to switch it on anyway and guess what, battery was 90%+
Have no idea why it shut off - stock rom, only "odd" app is Good for enterprise .
Could it be related to overheating in the pocket?
Anyone got any ideas?
W.

Happen to me and to some other Italian guys, too! In my case, the I9500 turn off itself, sometimes reboot itself, just now! Depends from the rom, I don't know why. One rom reboot it, try another rom and after a bit of second shutdown it. And always after tha the display go off
I9505 not, it had only the problem of the audio crackle, for now.

I am also having this issue , please if someone can help...
I am having an i9500 (octa core version) and running United Arab Emirates 2013 June 4.2.2 I9500XXUBMEA I9500OJVBMEA firmware (stock , no root) , frequently when the phone is locked it will shut down on it's own and I have to keep the power button held a bit longer than usual for it to start (like 20 seconds) , I do not want to root it because the company I bought it from is not that...good....so I am very afraid of sending it to their service department , please , any info/suggestions would be greatly appreciated

There is some update about this problem?
I have stock, randomly turns off, sometimes I have to take out the battery to turn the phone on.
It's the only problem I have with the S 4, for the rest is the perfect phone

nazzza said:
There is some update about this problem?
I have stock, randomly turns off, sometimes I have to take out the battery to turn the phone on.
It's the only problem I have with the S 4, for the rest is the perfect phone
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It's a firmware issue as far as I could tell Good luck finding a good one , I gave up and traded my i9500 for a i9505.

I found out that if i put my phone in the loader it shuts off... Maybe battery problem..

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Sutting itself down
Hi
My S4 is randomly shutting itself down when in my pocket, can you advise how to rectify this situation please?
Thanks

Ok so i may have isolated the cause. at least a physical one. I am an electrician, and i do a LOT of repetitive tasks so i love listening to music while i work. thats when i noticed a pattern to the problem. and this will blow your mind.
( I do not recommend you try this yourself unless you particularily like the sound of 700$ going SNAP)
i took my phone out of my pocket, and by pressing both thumbs on the center of the screen and physicaly bending the phone forward, ( Dont give me crap for this, im smarter than most and i understand limitations. I was impressed that this phone can bend nearly a full 1/8th of an inch!) i was able to replicate the problem.
My theory is, since samsung used a softer plastic for there entire frame, and since the phone is so thin, when ever id bend down, (Pulling pants tighter across my thigh with the phone facing my leg) it would bend and physicaly seperate the metal pins that contact the battery.
PS: just got home, DGAF about spelling right now. is it this hot for anyone else right now!? lol

Hellion_zk said:
Ok so i may have isolated the cause. at least a physical one. I am an electrician, and i do a LOT of repetitive tasks so i love listening to music while i work. thats when i noticed a pattern to the problem. and this will blow your mind.
( I do not recommend you try this yourself unless you particularily like the sound of 700$ going SNAP)
i took my phone out of my pocket, and by pressing both thumbs on the center of the screen and physicaly bending the phone forward, ( Dont give me crap for this, im smarter than most and i understand limitations. I was impressed that this phone can bend nearly a full 1/8th of an inch!) i was able to replicate the problem.
My theory is, since samsung used a softer plastic for there entire frame, and since the phone is so thin, when ever id bend down, (Pulling pants tighter across my thigh with the phone facing my leg) it would bend and physicaly seperate the metal pins that contact the battery.
PS: just got home, DGAF about spelling right now. is it this hot for anyone else right now!? lol
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I've been running the GT-I9505G play edition phone for the last month and only in the last week has the phone began to reboot on its own. What's strange about it is it usually happens when I'm not using the phone. I've seen it reboot maybe a dozen times over the last week. The phone always reboots and doesn't just turn off.
I'm going to see if factory reset takes care of the problem, if not I guess back to Google for a retread...
Thanks B

Yes I do a lot of bending down and I always have my body in awkward angles while working on the flight line and I used to have the same exact problem at work. I always thought that my S4's shutting off was due to the tiny half a mm gap between the bottom of my 7500mAh ZeroLemon Extended Battery and the bottom of the phone's battery slot, in-turn causing the battery to move inside my S4 and make the battery disconnect from the pins. I noticed a tiny gap in the fitting of the battery to the phone and that the battery was never really snug as much as it was with the 3500mAh Anker Extended Battery for my S3; it's really easy to remove the ZeroLemon battery and thought the battery shouldn't be easy to remove.
So I figured it was either the gap causing it to shut off or my movements somehow causing the power button to be pushed while it was in my pocket. I had a feeling it couldn't be the latter though because the thigh-located cargo/map pockets of my ABU's are a bit too large to not have enough room in the pocket for the power button to be pushed. I ended up solving my shutting off problem by cutting a very small piece of thick, durable paper the length of the S4's battery slot and I used the paper as a shim between the bottom edge of the ZeroLemon battery and my S4's battery slot to close the miniscule gap. Since I did used a thick piece of paper as a shim, I've yet to get any sudden shut-off's... even with the amount of times I bend down and move in ways that would cause it to shut off.
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I just recently have same issues, it is turning off while the battery is not dead! i have tries to reset the factory setting but it dose not help at all.
what frustrated that Samsung mobile costumer services in UK is not helping much!!!
any help please

if your phone shuts off and than you try to restart it and the battery is a lot lower than before than your battery is broken

I get exactly what you describe, only takes a slight bend to shutdown. doesn't do it with the back cover off, without the cover the battery moves out slightly and the phone stays on.
Hellion_zk said:
Ok so i may have isolated the cause. at least a physical one. I am an electrician, and i do a LOT of repetitive tasks so i love listening to music while i work. thats when i noticed a pattern to the problem. and this will blow your mind.
( I do not recommend you try this yourself unless you particularily like the sound of 700$ going SNAP)
i took my phone out of my pocket, and by pressing both thumbs on the center of the screen and physicaly bending the phone forward, ( Dont give me crap for this, im smarter than most and i understand limitations. I was impressed that this phone can bend nearly a full 1/8th of an inch!) i was able to replicate the problem.
My theory is, since samsung used a softer plastic for there entire frame, and since the phone is so thin, when ever id bend down, (Pulling pants tighter across my thigh with the phone facing my leg) it would bend and physicaly seperate the metal pins that contact the battery.
PS: just got home, DGAF about spelling right now. is it this hot for anyone else right now!? lol
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[Q] Part of the screen is not responding to touch... help?

So during my holiday my HOX got splashed with a bit of water from a wave. The battery was running on fumes and, when I looked at it, the phone was dead. It did turned on later while in my pocket and I happened to press the power button.
I let it dry on rice and nothing. I made the potential mistake of trying to charge it so it would heat up and it wouldn't charge. I then bought another mobile and, just to try it, I took opened the HOX and hoovered. Nothing.
Miracle happened yesterday when, just for kicks, I tried the charger again. It power up!! Everything seems fine, no visible screen damage, wifi works, everything works just fine but... screen won't respond to touch on the very bottom, say, the capacitive and menu buttons (the ones just above the capacitive ones).
What do you guys think? Is the screen dead there, maybe I didn't put the screen back properly or should I wait as some moister might yet be there?
Cheers!

Kutusov said:
So during my holiday my HOX got splashed with a bit of water from a wave. The battery was running on fumes and, when I looked at it, the phone was dead. It did turned on later while in my pocket and I happened to press the power button.
I let it dry on rice and nothing. I made the potential mistake of trying to charge it so it would heat up and it wouldn't charge. I then bought another mobile and, just to try it, I took opened the HOX and hoovered. Nothing.
Miracle happened yesterday when, just for kicks, I tried the charger again. It power up!! Everything seems fine, no visible screen damage, wifi works, everything works just fine but... screen won't respond to touch on the very bottom, say, the capacitive and menu buttons (the ones just above the capacitive ones).
What do you guys think? Is the screen dead there, maybe I didn't put the screen back properly or should I wait as some moister might yet be there?
Cheers!
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This is a flashback to me. Same thing happened to me few weeks ago - first 3 bottom buttons stoped working, and now 7 days ago part of touch screen is not working anymore. I am going to replace lcd+digitizer+frame, lucky me nothing else need to be fixed. And IMHO trying to heat closed HTC when water was in it doesn't make a sense as a water will condense (as it is closed) so it would make more damage. Oxidation sucks :/

I do have the SIM slot opened but yeah, that's a tinny opening, not much space for water vapour to escape... it's been a few weeks since I thought it had died though, it's pretty amazing to me that it came back at all. Some tough phones, these...
Anyway, I think I'll try to take the screen out again, I wasn't too careful putting it back in because I saw it wasn't charging or powering up or anything at all.