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One app that you should avoid

I recently tried the Graphic ly comic reader app in the Windows Phone Marketplace. Hoping to find a comic reader as good as droid comic viewer I found myself very very disappointed. The controls are shoddy, pinch to zoom is flakey and you have to zoom all the way out to turn the page. This is a far cry from the original video that was shown to consumers.
I understand that newly released products are no always perfect so I figured I would share my concerns with the developer. Their response was shocking and disappointing.
We would like to improve our WP7 app much more in the future, but I
will be straight with you: due to the low sales of the windows 7
phones we have put the improvement of the app lower on our priority
list than the continual improvement of our other apps.
In the meantime: please check out our adobe air application and our
new web application at:*http://graphicly.com/
Any comics that you buy in any of our applications can be read on any
of our other applications. *Your graphicly login should work on any of
them.
Thanks
-******
graphicly
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Now I know business is business but to release a bad product in the first place is unacceptable especially when the app merely needs some tuning. Due to the lack of planned future support I can only suggest that you guys stay away. Here is hoping that robot comics releases one on WinPho 7.

That is such a load of happy horse****. There are many apps where the developers are frequently updating and providing excellent communications between themselves and the users.
When WP7 takes off - and it will - I hope that many others are aware of the developer's attitude and shut them out. Let the money go to another comic app.

I was very dissapointed with the graphic.ly app, especially compared to what we've seen before. This attitude isn't going to get them any customers. If they're not going to put any effort in the phone app, I don't see any point in buying comics from them or getting their adobe air app.

Shame, i was hovering over it recently....
Thanks for the heads up. I like to stay away from those types of attitudes of devs and updates/support. "EA ruined a good brand after Westwood"
If it's not important enough for them, guess it's not important enough for me to use.

bernaserra said:
I recently tried the Graphic ly comic reader app in the Windows Phone Marketplace. Hoping to find a comic reader as good as droid comic viewer I found myself very very disappointed. The controls are shoddy, pinch to zoom is flakey and you have to zoom all the way out to turn the page. This is a far cry from the original video that was shown to consumers.
I understand that newly released products are no always perfect so I figured I would share my concerns with the developer. Their response was shocking and disappointing.
Now I know business is business but to release a bad product in the first place is unacceptable especially when the app merely needs some tuning. Due to the lack of planned future support I can only suggest that you guys stay away. Here is hoping that robot comics releases one on WinPho 7.
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That's depressing. Low WP7 sales volume not good. Hopefully this app dev is just a WP7 hater.

Considering that, at least in the US, folk generally wait until their account is due for a subsidized upgrade before getting a new phone (mine just happened to drop in late November ), it makes sense that sales for WP7 haven't exploded yet. I could see holding off on making an app until WP7 grows in market share, but to release a shoddy app, charge for it, and then not support it just because it's not a cash cow yet is simply horrid customer relations. Seeing as the potential dollar is apparently all that matters to these jokers, I'll be sure and speak with my wallet, and mark this one off of the potential to-buy list.

Hilarious. TBQH.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC

Due to the low sales of Windows Phone 7 ???
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How would they know this when no one else seems to have this info yet? Perhaps they are basing it on the low sales of their crappy app?

iirc i read some developers are complaining because they have no way to know how much they are selling, and microsoft will start paying in february... so how does this guy know that they are not doing ok?
i call bul****

installed it just to rate it poorly and uninstall it. If you are not going to support your work then don't release it in the marketplace.
OP, I would forward that email to MS support so they know the dev isn't willing to support their app.

nrfitchett4 said:
installed it just to rate it poorly and uninstall it. If you are not going to support your work then don't release it in the marketplace.
OP, I would forward that email to MS support so they know the dev isn't willing to support their app.
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I concur. That's a damn good idea.

WhyBe said:
How would they know this when no one else seems to have this info yet? Perhaps they are basing it on the low sales of their crappy app?
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Exactly what I was going to post.
Lol.
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On a more positive note, I have contacted Robot Comics, the developer of Droid comic viewer from android. I used thier app right before I went to WP7 and it was very intuitive and easy to use in portrait and landscape. It also supported locally added comics.
After emailing I recieved some very good news.
Thanks Jose! Good news: a WP7 version is in our roadmap.
Best,
--
ROBOT COMICS
Comics for Android, iPhone/iPod touch, iPad, Kindle & more
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I am not trying to come across as anyone of importance but I love WP7 and would personally like to see it succeed so I figured the best I can do is let the developers know that they have a potential customer. Also does anyone know how I can get in contact with MS support?

bernaserra said:
On a more positive note, I have contacted Robot Comics, the developer of Droid comic viewer from android. I used thier app right before I went to WP7 and it was very intuitive and easy to use in portrait and landscape. It also supported locally added comics.
After emailing I recieved some very good news.
I am not trying to come across as anyone of importance but I love WP7 and would personally like to see it succeed so I figured the best I can do is let the developers know that they have a potential customer. Also does anyone know how I can get in contact with MS support?
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http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/threads
Alex

Sorry about that message from Graphicly - it was wrong.
Hi,
Im Micah, CEO of Graphicly. I am unsure of who would provide you that message, that we are not supporting the Win7 Phone application, but it is wrong.
We continue to develop and maintain the applications that our community desire.
The WP7 app that we put out was our v1. We are working to improve the reading experience and other aspects of the application, as we know its it not perfect yet.
Of the applications we have, our Adobe AIR application has been around the longest and has the most development hours into it.
As the WP7 phone continues to grow, we will continue to develop against it.
If you have any questions, or want to discuss this further, I can be reached directly at 720-248-8499 or via email at [email protected] (GTALK too).
Again, I apologize for the confusion, I will make sure that everyone on the Graphicly team understands our product roadmap.
micah

micahb said:
Hi,
Im Micah, CEO of Graphicly. I am unsure of who would provide you that message, that we are not supporting the Win7 Phone application, but it is wrong.
We continue to develop and maintain the applications that our community desire.
The WP7 app that we put out was our v1. We are working to improve the reading experience and other aspects of the application, as we know its it not perfect yet.
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Hopefully someone from XDA can validate, but if this is indeed true I thank you for clearing things up Its nice to see brands out there connecting with their customer and stepping up to the bat like this.
Hopefully we'll see the app improved! You could always open it up on CodePlex and let XDA hackers have at it!

It is indeed me - How would you like to verify it? I can give you my mom's phone number... How about this - we have promo codes enabled in the AIR app. Use "techcrunch" (no quotes) and get a free comic. We used it for an old techcrunch article, and I think its still alive. Then when you use the WP7 phone, it will be in there, and you can give me solid feedback on the mistakes we made.
Tell me more about CodePlex. I would be happy to let the community at it. We are doing something similar with our Win7 app. Building out APIs that are secure and can be built on is a personal passion of mine.
micah

micahb said:
Hi,
Im Micah, CEO of Graphicly. I am unsure of who would provide you that message, that we are not supporting the Win7 Phone application, but it is wrong.
We continue to develop and maintain the applications that our community desire.
The WP7 app that we put out was our v1. We are working to improve the reading experience and other aspects of the application, as we know its it not perfect yet.
Of the applications we have, our Adobe AIR application has been around the longest and has the most development hours into it.
As the WP7 phone continues to grow, we will continue to develop against it.
If you have any questions, or want to discuss this further, I can be reached directly at 720-248-8499 or via email at [email protected] (GTALK too).
Again, I apologize for the confusion, I will make sure that everyone on the Graphicly team understands our product roadmap.
micah
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I did not want to post the name but originally I wrote the email in reply to the email I received about you guys releasing a Google web app to this emai "[email protected]"
I received a reply back from a Audrey Zarr stating what I posted. I sent her a polite email expressing my dismay with that type of business attitude and never got a reply back. I certainly wasn't trying to slander your company but knew it would be best to share this info on the web.
I understand that this is a v1 app and I would have been perfectly happy with a "we are working to improve this app" type of answer. Instead I was given the previously posted information. Currently your app is sitting at 1 star, I would hope you guys would want to improve that. Best of luck on your next release.

yeah... [email protected] is the reply email on our newsletter. Audrey is one of our engineers, and is tasked with answering questions about bugs, issues, feature requests, etc.
Your question is quite valid, and in some ways, her response (we are a small company, and we have to focus on the products our community want) is correct. Except the part about us abandoning development on the WP7 app.
A couple of other points (really just FYI). The video from the MIX conference was a proof of concept. We were asked to show off what Deep Zoom would look like in our reader, and so we did. As the months passed and the WP7 software progressed, it became clear that we wouldnt be able to have deep zoom on the finished app.
Other issues: The dev phone we had was a samsung, which is not even one of the release phones. It made things like having pinch/zoom work properly really tough.
So, do we want to make the app better? Of course we do. We want all of our apps to be solid and work at a high level. I believe that the WP7 platform has potential.

micahb said:
yeah... [email protected] is the reply email on our newsletter. Audrey is one of our engineers, and is tasked with answering questions about bugs, issues, feature requests, etc.
Your question is quite valid, and in some ways, her response (we are a small company, and we have to focus on the products our community want) is correct. Except the part about us abandoning development on the WP7 app.
A couple of other points (really just FYI). The video from the MIX conference was a proof of concept. We were asked to show off what Deep Zoom would look like in our reader, and so we did. As the months passed and the WP7 software progressed, it became clear that we wouldnt be able to have deep zoom on the finished app.
Other issues: The dev phone we had was a samsung, which is not even one of the release phones. It made things like having pinch/zoom work properly really tough.
So, do we want to make the app better? Of course we do. We want all of our apps to be solid and work at a high level. I believe that the WP7 platform has potential.
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I understand that there were time constraints but phone operating systems as of recent seems to lean on their marketplace for success. A bunch of half baked apps won't appeal to anyone.(see palm) That was my main reason for reaching out. I also understand focusing on what the market wants, Microsoft has deep pockets and this OS will eventually be pretty successful. I will spend my money and time on apps that were well made and supported from the get go. As a vendor of comics I am sure your business relies on repeat business.

Official OFF TOPIC THREAD

This is a thread to come and relax and hangout in.
This is no NSFA so not posting of anything nude/rude/obnoxious.
This is a place to have fun and get to know your fell optimus users.
If you choose to not follow the rules you can and will be infracted or banned and I am always watching
Enjoy and have fun

No being obnoxious? Aww

The Optimus G looks freaking LEGIT.
The fact that its almost got 2x the processing speed as the S3 or OneX is mind blowing.
Just wish the AT&T version had the 13MP camera too
&& Anyone else feeling that the battery (2100mAh) is a bit too small?

can't wait to get my hands on it, the sprint version :laugh:

More Revenues/Profit = More Support? Hope so....
Good article on reuters regarding LG latest quarterly earnings, could be a good sign for us who will be buying the Optimus G. I have to admit, I have owned a LG device before (Nitro HD), and I eventually got rid of it - too many reasons to list. However, with more revenue and trending growth I hope LG will realize the opportunity they have gain valuable market share and will put these increased revenues to good use - namely to make a better effort to support their flagships with appropriate and timely updates.....time will tell, but i'm willing to take my chances on this device - specs are just too good. Fingers crossed.....
FYI i would post the link but it wont let me b/c im a new user.....if you go to Reuters and search "LG electronics" - the news article is titled "LG Electronics boosts smartphone sales as rivals fade"
Love the site btw...
thx

hi, can someone test the 10bit MKV playback on optimus g? can it handle the video well?

10BIT? Piece of cake man

This forum vs the AT&T and Sprint forums
I know the mods have deemed this forum "NOT AT&T OR SPRINT GO AWAY" but I'm hoping they don't delete future posts about either of these phones here... even though we have a phone on a different carrier doesn't necessarily mean the knowledge and comments won't apply. I know for instance the sprint and international have the same body style.
What does anyone else think?

Att/sprint versions of the G have their own forum section, thats why it was prohibited in the general.

good day! F180L-will it work in Russia? can I receive calls?

Should work with the frequencies matching

sorry did not say: interested in networks gsm (mts, beeline, tele2)

good machine
nice

Just tried the update check, instead of usual "No updates" it says the update server is unavailable.
Hope that means the 4.1 is on its way

thx

Just see so much sorry in this thread,what are talking about?

5 days left, no JB update yet.
So LG lied, as always?

by mistake i did a factory reset of my phone. all contacts gone.

Just login with your google account, they will back

Tim4 said:
5 days left, no JB update yet.
So LG lied, as always?
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that's normal
I am not expecting any update til 2013Q2

Infrared Remote

Ok so i have send a mai to https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=remote.home.squid this guys.Maybe the are going to make an app for our lg too.So they answered me Hi Vlad,
Thanks for alerting us to this. We weren't aware that they had released this.
That being said, I've just looked it over, and I'm not sure we'll end up porting our app over. The LG QRemote works much the same way that Sony does their IR. Their IR code library is hardwired in and third party developers are limited to using what LG already has in their database.
We did port our app over to the Sony, only 6 people bought it (of the two dozen that were asking us to port it over for them). It cost us about $2000 in development work, introduced bugs to our app (leading to additional work), and 4 of the 6 who bought complained because the only reason they wanted to use our app was because our database included devices not in Sony's database.
The LG protocols are not similar enough to Sony's to re-use any of that code, so we would likely be putting a similar amount of development work. Only 8 or 9 people have asked us to port over to LG devices, so unless the demand increases substantially, it likely won't make it to the top of our priority list (all of our development work for our remote control apps is done by just one person).
In conclusion send mail to them [email protected] to make the app work for us too.

[Q] Project: DroidSourced

Hi guys,
I have received multiple requests to support and create rom's and firmware guides for the M8 (and other phones but the M8 was the top requested).
Background: As many of you may know, I make stock based rom's and guides to simplify things for new and advanced users alike. It's all about information consolidation while keeping things up to date. I currently support the N5 and the HTC One M7.
After doing this for a few years now... I have come to realize that people really appreciate this unfortunately, I cannot support some devices (or only support them in a very limited manner) since I do not have the hardware to work with. My philosophy is not to post anything unless it has been tried and tested thoroughly by me - this makes sure that everything works!
All this led to idea the idea I had for Project-DroidSourced
It's pretty simple:
- The community pitches in (kickstarter-like) to collect funds for the device they want supported
- We purchase the device using the crowd sourced funds - all receipts and pictures of bought items will be shared publicly
- The purchased device is used as the testing bed for rom, firmwares, bootloader unlocks or guides (depending on what is being developed/supported)
- Finally, the device is GIVEN AWAY back to the community as a raffle/contest after a period of time (likely near the end of the device's yearly cycle).
Note:
- I am not doing this for any monetary gain myself. I do not accept "donations" for what I do - knowledge should be free and should be shared.
- This is just an idea I had seeing a large community interest from my previous work - no need to take anything negatively.
This is the first place I am sharing this idea - and the M8 will be the first device in this program if there is interest/uptake.
Feel free to ask any questions or share ideas.
Thanks

Where I think it could work, but you'd have to have like 1 master paypal account [one you create] in this scenario.
Secondly, you'd have to keep a book, xcel sheet, to basically keep tabs on the money supported, and then tell people, when you spend their funds, to what device it went to. It'd be a self kept treasury log. Additionally, perhaps use a public google drive file so it can be viewed at any time. I say view only so it isn't tampered with, but the transparency is there. Then again, that part would have to voted on as people may not want their names | contributions, even if by xda name.
Lastly, you'd have to figure a way to give it away randomly, or give the device randomly to the people's funds that went towards that particular device.
It's not a bad idea, but with the above, I think it could be managed correctly.

teh roxxorz said:
Where I think it could work, but you'd have to have like 1 master paypal account [one you create] in this scenario.
Secondly, you'd have to keep a book, xcel sheet, to basically keep tabs on the money supported, and then tell people, when you spend their funds, to what device it went to. It'd be a self kept treasury log.
Lastly, you'd have to figure a way to give it away randomly, or give the device randomly to the people's funds that went towards that particular device.
It's not a bad idea, but with the above, I think it could be managed correctly.
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Agreed with all those comments. Each supported device would have an upper donation limit and would be it's own sub project.
A public excel sheet with donation amounts/users would also be setup. I want to keep things transparent.
I am also thinking of building a team for this so we can cover a larger range of devices also could lead to a ROM series

vomer said:
Agreed with all those comments. Each supported device would have an upper donation limit and would be it's own sub project.
A public excel sheet with donation amounts/users would also be setup. I want to keep things transparent.
I am also thinking of building a team for this so we can cover a larger range of devices
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Well, when you say upper limit, I think it should be explicitly stated that it'd be a tiered system [regarding 'eligibility' for raffle device]. Cause i could see some quick mutinies when a guy who gave 1$ gets a device and a guy who gave 50$ didn't get anything. Again, not saying it's shady, but just to clear up front.
Regarding teams, I think that would be required, but a dev team member shouldn't be entered to win the same device they work on, cause it may same they are getting special treatment.
:silly:

teh roxxorz said:
Well, when you say upper limit, I think it should be explicitly stated that it'd be a tiered system [regarding 'eligibility' for raffle device]. Cause i could see some quick mutinies when a guy who gave 1$ gets a device and a guy who gave 50$ didn't get anything. Again, not saying it's shady, but just to clear up front.
Regarding teams, I think that would be required, but a dev team member shouldn't be entered to win the same device they work on, cause it may same they are getting special treatment.
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Yes, all great points. Noted and agreed.
What I meant by upper limit was the total amount donated (to cover the device). Users are free to donate as they see fit.

vomer said:
Yes, all great points. Noted and agreed.
What I meant by upper limit was the total amount donated (to cover the device). Users are free to donate as they see fit.
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Ah well of course.
Though i think you could treat the pot as a 2 for 1:
- [some] people will donate to a specific device, which their funds will go towards it
- others will donate just blindly, not caring; they get notified prior to, to take care of the remaining funds
That way you'd be almost guaranteed every device could be funded, and all relevant parties viable to get it.
Also, i'm heading out; I'll be back later when it's not now. Take care
[ z z z z]

I think its a great idea. There's nothing more comforting than seeing your new phone now has a ROM developed by somebody you've come to trust. If I bought a phone and saw the right developers (including you) asking for money to buy a dev device to speed up the development process, I'd definitely be willing to send $10/$20 dollars to ensure my new phone has quality support. Thirty guys per phone agree in principle at $20 a piece, that's $600 that can buy the phone to start development.
I'd suggest getting flar2 to mirror his ElementalX kernel to any ROM you develop by also raising enough money for him to support the phone as well. This is just my opinion for kernel support. Many android users like kernel options, especially stable options.
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Or.... I'll trade my m8 for your n5. Come on. You don't want that thing anymore Then everyone is happy!
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Great idea Vomer, I would support :good:
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A good idea but currently I have a device which you supports but I can help this team in funding ...

Jason78729 said:
I think its a great idea. There's nothing more comforting than seeing your new phone now has a ROM developed by somebody you've come to trust. If I bought a phone and saw the right developers (including you) asking for money to buy a dev device to speed up the development process, I'd definitely be willing to send $10/$20 dollars to ensure my new phone has quality support. Thirty guys per phone agree in principle at $20 a piece, that's $600 that can buy the phone to start development.
I'd suggest getting flar2 to mirror his ElementalX kernel to any ROM you develop by also raising enough money for him to support the phone as well. This is just my opinion for kernel support. Many android users like kernel options, especially stable options.
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Thanks for the input Yes, I agree that having a few developers and knowledge consolidators on board will help - but it's also up to them if they want to join.
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Or.... I'll trade my m8 for your n5. Come on. You don't want that thing anymore Then everyone is happy!
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But then how will I support my N5 buddies?
techinv said:
Great idea Vomer, I would support :good:
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Thank you
sam razzy said:
A good idea but currently I have a device which you supports but I can help this team in funding ...
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Thanks I wanted to gauge feedback first to see what people think. I do not want people to think that this is a pay for service type thing - it's more for a development device and reaching a standard of information delivery

Let's get the minuum keyboard on the Moto 360

EVERYBODY get on and email them!! Make sure they know there's a demand! Maybe if enough people request this it will happen. Here's their email.
[email protected]
I emailed minuum and this was their response.
Thanks for letting us know! Unfortunately, based on current development priorities it seems unlikely we will have a finished version for the Moto 360 anytime soon.
If you haven't already, I recommend following us on your preferred social media network(Google+,Twitter,Facebook) and/or signing up for ourmailing listin order to receive the latest Minuum news, including any plans for a Moto 360 release.
All the best,

I joined the mailing list a couple days ago and put 360 as my watch. If demand is high enough, it will come.

I sent them an email as well saying a huge part of XDA is requesting it, etc.

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I also emailed them last week..
"Right now we are very focused on our iOS release but we hope to resume development on our circular version soon. I recommend and signing up for our Smart Watch Mailing List(http://minuum.us4.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ca045cd04e580f1a87d5b9c63&id=3f537d0efb) to keep up to date with all Minuum for smart watches related news."
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So be patient. It'll come. iOS just has a bigger user base than Moto 360, so that gets priority

Wim!! said:
A post in a different topic:
So be patient. It'll come. iOS just has a bigger user base than Moto 360, so that gets priority
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I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.

furiousgtz said:
I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
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Hell ya!

furiousgtz said:
I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
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Are you sure? This is an email I just got from Prem:
"Hi Omar,
Thanks for the input and we will definitely take it into consideration.
You would be surprised at the development resources necessary to completely rebuild Minuum for a circular watch face. Though we would love to just fully develop every cool permutation of Minuum, we are constrained by the resources available to us.
To be honest, the only realistic way we might be able to justify doing this is if the Android Wear A. officially opened up their platform to third-party keyboards and B. if a circular watch manufacturer engaged us in some sort of partnership.
Though this could happen, I don't see this being likely in the very near future.
Best,"
I replied back to him asking for a beta if possible or something that can at least be temporarily functional for the time being until greater resources are available.

opasha said:
Are you sure? This is an email I just got from Prem:
"Hi Omar,
Thanks for the input and we will definitely take it into consideration.
You would be surprised at the development resources necessary to completely rebuild Minuum for a circular watch face. Though we would love to just fully develop every cool permutation of Minuum, we are constrained by the resources available to us.
To be honest, the only realistic way we might be able to justify doing this is if the Android Wear A. officially opened up their platform to third-party keyboards and B. if a circular watch manufacturer engaged us in some sort of partnership.
Though this could happen, I don't see this being likely in the very near future.
Best,"
I replied back to him asking for a beta if possible or something that can at least be temporarily functional for the time being until greater resources are available.
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Yes. From our conversion, it looks like they have been working on the Moto 360 and the keyboard is currently in development. I would like close to finish product to try because I have a feeling this might drain our battery.

furiousgtz said:
Yes. From our conversion, it looks like they have been working on the Moto 360 and the keyboard is currently in development. I would like close to finish product to try because I have a feeling this might drain our battery.
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It has almost no effect to battery life on my g watch. If that means anything. Couldn't be that much different

Guitarboarder28 said:
It has almost no effect to battery life on my g watch. If that means anything. Couldn't be that much different
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Agreed. Keyboards are not supposed to drain battery. Their coding is not that vast where it requires so much memory to be used. Someone got the STOCK android keyboard to come up by accident if you saw in the minuum thread. Maybe we can utilize that in the mean time? Anyone know how to enable it? I know adb has to be used. I'm assuming Minuum used the stock apk and built upon that.