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Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..
And yes, it does belong in the dev section
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
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It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.
that's a good news!!!
fllash said:
It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.
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Same here.
fllash said:
It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.
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Same here. I was sold on the HTC Sensation but then heard that they locked it down like Fort Knox.
Going to the HTC event in Toronto on May 30th, see what the reps there have to say about this (probably nothing, but worth a try).
Great news indeed. Really hope they listen to their fans. As everyone else has said this will influence what phone I get next.
hope they will make the next nexus android phone ice-cream sandwiches
Sounds like something Motorola would say. Motorola actually said they would unlock the whole range ( carrier dependant) in late 2011 we'll have to see.
Did htc say they'd do anything like that? Hmm big load-a-stalling.
Desire is the source of all suffering.
wow probs to htc they listen to customers
Who would've thought...
Nice to hear these good news, last scepsis is gone looking forward to the Sensation! Great!
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fllash said:
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It will certainly give me more options if the policy changes.
Being rootable is paramount.
I have to see it first to believe it. In my opinion HTC does not listen to customers. Based on the past when they would release very buggy firmware (eg touch pro 2 and hd2) and did not solve it. Custom roms were the only thing that made the devices great.
So after 4 HTC devices, my next one will be the Galaxy S 2.
Also, we what are their motives for doing it in the first place?
-Operators who don't like tethering, so won't sell their devices when it's possible to root?
-Don't like it when new sense versions are being ported to old devices?
-Thinking that locking everything down will sell them more devices?
I really hope this is not a marketing trick.... I'd really like future HTC phones to have unlock bootloaders we all know (maybe HTC too) that the roms our chefs make are by far better than the stock ones
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I won't believe this till i see it.
Nice gesture, this facebook message. Lets hope they mean what the say in it.
The problem is that htc don't sell only hardware..They want sell Htc Sense
They do not want allow to flash an other rom on their devices
Htc Sense is great in my opinion, but I dont understand why they want force to use that..If really they will allow this, will be a great step for htc
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The problem is that htc don't sell only hardware..They want sell Htc Sense
They do not want allow to flash an other rom on their devices
Htc Sense is great in my opinion, but I dont understand why they want force to use that..If really they will allow this, will be a great step for htc
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So you are saying that HTC is following the apple route? Don't forget that apple has allowed other OSes on their machines
We might be lucky
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The problem is that htc don't sell only hardware..They want sell Htc Sense
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Even though HTC's hardware is not always cutting edge, its generally well built and I like this.
I don't use HTC sense, but I would still buy a HTC handset if I could root it, just because I know what I am getting.
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Even though HTC's hardware is not always cutting edge, its generally well built and I like this.
I don't use HTC sense, but I would still buy a HTC handset if I could root it, just because I know what I am getting.
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If was not clear, I agree with you
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
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Now I can go back to HTC.... Yay!!
Yeah but that doesn't help the HTC Thunderbolt, EVO 3D, or the Inspire right now
So, will there be updates for locked bootloader phone such as wildfire,..??
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So, will there be updates for locked bootloader phone such as wildfire,..??
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I hope so.
But if they don´t release Updates for the older Devices, the chances are better that owners of older devices like the Wildfire buy the new unlocked Phones.
Ahh finally back
I really like the quality of the Motorola phones ive had, but this would make me switch to hts for my next upgrade.
Here's to hoping the Merge makes the cut it is a really slick phone....
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The Evo 3D is the one I care about. I will have patience. This was a great decision.
Edit: its been reported that at&t is indeed blocking the unlock for their version of this device.
The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
EDIT: Willyami found this, I'm happy to hear temp-root is already achieved. Yet the article still states we need bootloader unlock or S OFF for perm root...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
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The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
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Absolutely agree with you dude. As a result of so few devs over there, I still haven't unlocked and rooted my Vivid.
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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Yeah, maybe for you. But this is a development site. we're here to develop and make the device as badass as possible. The phone will be enjoyed for sure. but enjoyed more with it rooted Running a CoreDroid Rom
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
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Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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lol easier to talk the talk than walk the walk. I had the same mindset you did, but two/three months of the same old thing and same old sense really sucked. Try it if you don't believe me.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
Unfortunately, that is only temp root. It is not a permanent root solution. This link is the exact method described in the article and its from this forums dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562470
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Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
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A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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That's temp root, not perm root. The article states we still need S OFF or htcdev unlock for perm root.
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A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
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Yeah that's what I look for. I was lucky for getting a captivate a while back, it was my first android device and I loved doing the customization. I'll be happy with this phone but I'm really looking forward to the development.
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Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
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HTC have already released the source code to the Sensation ICS kernel, and it's not even properly rolled out yet. Doesn't seem laggy to me
Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
Another pro argument might be that this will be a real flagship device. As we all know, htc released much too many phones in 2011 (close to 50 I heard in an xda-tv episode ) and they realized the problems that come with such an approach.
The vivid or the rezound might just have been skipped by most devs, some of the better are even still on the 2 year old HD2.
I really hope that this will be the next HD2, it's got all the potential to be the next best phone ever.
I believe that HTC are changing and learning. If you see the communications between them and XDA over the last year, if you see the HTCDev site, if you see the list of ICS updates, if you see the API's they are releasing, etc.
If you look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXgL7MDsIc Jeff clearly says it will be unlocked.
Also I agree with their reasoning for locking the boot loader, and as long as they release the unlock tool I think its a good process to ensure only those who know and accept the consequences will use it.
PS. Also the HTC One X is not tied to a partner so it should give HTC full control of what they do with it. Were as the HTC One XL is tied to AT&T so it may mean for that device its more complicated a process to get AT&T to agree to unlock the boot loader.
The "One" series must have been made for something, didn't they say they are trying to make their phones more recognisable too? In that case, it makes perfect sense to not release 50 phones a year (or one every week), as that really tarnishes the brand
i've never unlocked a phone on htcdev, but it has a generic unlock option.
you have to submit an identifier token you can query with fastboot, and you are getting a unlock binary sent by email which you can flash with fastboot to unlock the phone. if the hboot of the phone supports this.
seems very generic to me, and i guess you can already unlock a htc-one device using this method
Edit: Ops! I am wrong... please see later posts! Sorry blubbers!
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Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
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A custom rom means nothing. Did you even read the article or my post?? It says you still need s off or bootloader unlock for permanent root. Modaco only found temp root.
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Hey guys,
I just bought an HTC One X on ebay and when I got it in the mail today it had all sorts of interesting markings on it. It has the AT&T branding on the top and when I boot up the phone it says "This build is for development purposes only...."
Would this be of any use to community to dump this particular phone?
http://imgur.com/a/HkJ8O
Updated! Added some bootloader images.
http://imgur.com/a/bomFa
Yeah, make sure you dump other stuff like the hboot, radio, etc.. as well. If you can. Might be of use to other teams trying to get S-OFF.
I hate to ask a stupid question, but how do I do that? If someone is willing to walk me through it, I'll dump anything off the one that anyone needs.
S4 or Tegra?
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S4 or Tegra?
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It's got the S4 in it. In the hardware information menu, it lists it as 1.5Ghz dual core.
It would be great if you could get a system dump at least.
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It would be great if you could get a system dump at least.
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If someone shows me or walks me through doing it, I'd be happy to. I also uploaded some bootloader images.
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Updated! Added some bootloader images.
http://imgur.com/a/bomFa
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You lucky bugger! S-OFF!
voteccow said:
Hey guys,
I just bought an HTC One X on ebay and when I got it in the mail today it had all sorts of interesting markings on it. It has the AT&T branding on the top and when I boot up the phone it says "This build is for development purposes only...."
Would this be of any use to community to dump this particular phone?
http://imgur.com/a/HkJ8O
Updated! Added some bootloader images.
http://imgur.com/a/bomFa
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I would try to reach out to devs that could use this to gain s-off. You could be the ticket to s-off for the One X!
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I would try to reach out to devs that could use this to gain s-off. You could be the ticket to s-off for the One X!
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I'd like to give back to the community, so hopefully, someone reaches out to me and gets what they need from my device!
I've put a link to this thread in developer section. Hopefully one of them reaches out.
Thanks votecow for the opportunity
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Hey, might be wise to put this the the general and dev sections of the One XL. Most of the people on that forum are going to be buying the at&t version. This would not only help them but possibly this forum as well. We need to have people from both forums help you out getting the necessary stuff off the phone you scored. So, go ahead and link this thread over there as well.
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better watch out, HTC will be calling you to get their phone back. I had a prototype Motorola Photon over the summer before it was released and the head of Motorola Mobility called me and told me that if i didnt return it they were going to press charges on me. just be careful with the pics and info you post. i didnt think they could find out info about me, but they did.
Looks like the OP is famous as this thread is now on Android Central
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better watch out, HTC will be calling you to get their phone back. I had a prototype Motorola Photon over the summer before it was released and the head of Motorola Mobility called me and told me that if i didnt return it they were going to press charges on me. just be careful with the pics and info you post. i didnt think they could find out info about me, but they did.
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X2^^^^
Be extremely careful not to disclose anything identifying the phone.. actually I would put it in airplane mode until you've dumped everything.. or No sim, no gps, no wifi.. They have ways of finding devices if they want to..
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Looks like the OP is famous as this thread is now on Android Central
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yeah i made the front of android central and android forums. guess that made it a little easier for Motorola to get a hold of me. BE CAREFUL! i never got my money back from paypal or the guy. and motorola basically fuc$ed me all around.
votecow -- if you are worried about HTC pushing legal issues on you -- you have no reason to be. STAND STRONG. Dont listen to them.
If they try... do not answer the phone or anything -- do not respond to any emails. Do not respond. DO NOT RESPOND. They will try to scare the bejeesus out of you but they have absolutely no legal standing to do so because unless you stole that device off a HTC employed developer, then they have absolutely nothing against you legally.
OK? stand strong.
If you do not want to deal with such crap, feel free to forward whatever crap you get to joshcues at gmail dot com and I will be more than happy to take care of it for you. Of course I will establish a connection with you first before replying to whomever is making such claims.
This is awesome and I love this cat and mouse game we play with the OEM's but sometimes people actually surrender to these OEM's, but from what I have seen of your obtaining the phone and if you have receipt of purchase from whatever seller on EBay - then you have absolutely no reason to be worried. OK?
You are safe as safe can be. HTC's only claim would be against the seller. Not you. Capisce?
Can you post benchmark results like antutu, quadrant, linpack that will be great to see how it does against the quad core one x
I really didn't want to start a new thread but the the current threads regarding the hopeful update were either from users outside of the US or they turned into a rant about about why the update hasn't come yet. The most prominent thread on the subject that I saw ended up as a discussion on the financials of Google and HTC which was less the useful.
I am not wondering why I haven't gotten my JB update yet. Actually I am but I know a little more about the scenario then a question like that would make you believe. I have been following the news about the update to the One X and I know that the the international ones with the Tegra 3 started to receive the update a few weeks ago. That got me hopeful that my ATT One X with the measly (in comparison) 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 would be updated quickly. Unfortunately that has not happened and despite my efforts to find any sort of information regarding my phone, the Tegra 3 version still seems to dominate the news.
I am wondering if anyone has heard any news or received any information on the update schedule with the less capable ATT One X? The only thing I have heard are unsubstantiated claims of mid November but those font even don't even explain which model they are referring to so I am still in the dark. A news article, blog post or even an idiot with a website that provides me with a clue to a timeline is better then nothing.
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I really didn't want to start a new thread but the the current threads regarding the hopeful update were either from users outside of the US or they turned into a rant about about why the update hasn't come yet. The most prominent thread on the subject that I saw ended up as a discussion on the financials of Google and HTC which was less the useful.
I am not wondering why I haven't gotten my JB update yet. Actually I am but I know a little more about the scenario then a question like that would make you believe. I have been following the news about the update to the One X and I know that the the international ones with the Tegra 3 started to receive the update a few weeks ago. That got me hopeful that my ATT One X with the measly (in comparison) 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 would be updated quickly. Unfortunately that has not happened and despite my efforts to find any sort of information regarding my phone, the Tegra 3 version still seems to dominate the news.
I am wondering if anyone has heard any news or received any information on the update schedule with the less capable ATT One X? The only thing I have heard are unsubstantiated claims of mid November but those font even don't even explain which model they are referring to so I am still in the dark. A news article, blog post or even an idiot with a website that provides me with a clue to a timeline is better then nothing.
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The problem you're going to face is that the carrier has to approve Jelly Bean. AT&T is notorious for taking FOREVER to approve updates for phones on their network. It could be an additional 6 months...there's truly no way at all to know. The only way to ensure you'll get updates relatively quickly is to get a carrier independent phone (i.e. an unlocked international version of the HOX in this case) or a Google-branded Nexus device. If you're not on something like that, which you of course are not, then you're pretty much stuck waiting for your carrier to give you permission to be updated.
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The problem you're going to face is that the carrier has to approve Jelly Bean. AT&T is notorious for taking FOREVER to approve updates for phones on their network. It could be an additional 6 months...there's truly no way at all to know. The only way to ensure you'll get updates relatively quickly is to get a carrier independent phone (i.e. an unlocked international version of the HOX in this case) or a Google-branded Nexus device. If you're not on something like that, which you of course are not, then you're pretty much stuck waiting for your carrier to give you permission to be updated.
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This makes more sense after I did a bit of research. I had researched this phone for months but just now realized that the One X that I am using is basically only on the At&T network and some smaller networks. I was on Sprint before I moved to Alaska and was in love with the EVO 4G which had similar specs and is quite popular. Seems like the US version of the One X wasn't all that popular then. I am starting to be disappointed that I picked this over the S3.
The AT&T One X is actually a One XL, but at least you can change your CID to an unbranded one and get the update easily.
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The AT&T One X is actually a One XL, but at least you can change your CID to an unbranded one and get the update easily.
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Well that is just too tempting. I have have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on all my past android phone (Google Nexus and HTC EVO) but this is the first one that I haven't really had a desire to load a custom rom on. Everything has worked perfectly so far. I can wait till the new year but I really don't want to.
Is there any news about the the update to my phone?
So I just discovered that there is an entire forum dedicated to my version of the One X. My bad....