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Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie to smart phones. I succcessful managed to create a goldcard and root my Desire to the generic HTC room using the 1 step r6 guide at modaco forums. I have managed to re-install my apps.
I'm just wondering whether it is possible to create a backup image so that if I was to go to a different rom which I didn't like I could restore the image to go back to the generic rom but with all my apps installed. Is a custom rom with all my apps on there the same as an image???
I read some stuff about nandroid here but it seems confusing and says that you need to create seperate backup for app settings.
sorry not sure if what I am saying is making sense.
Thanks for any help

I did a bit more reading and I guess it's not possible to backup an image and restore like you can with a hdd. So I can only restore to the provider or stock Roms, I would have to backup my settings and apps using an app like titanium but it won't allow me to update these apps unless I use the paid version?

thunderb0ltuk said:
I did a bit more reading and I guess it's not possible to backup an image and restore like you can with a hdd. So I can only restore to the provider or stock Roms, I would have to backup my settings and apps using an app like titanium but it won't allow me to update these apps unless I use the paid version?
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Yes there is. User ROM Manager. I'm using it to switch back between Froyo and 2.1 Sense. Just create a backup before you flash ROM #2, then backup ROM #2 after configuring it. Then just restore from one of the two backups. Easy as pie!

thunderb0ltuk said:
I did a bit more reading and I guess it's not possible to backup an image and restore like you can with a hdd. So I can only restore to the provider or stock Roms, I would have to backup my settings and apps using an app like titanium but it won't allow me to update these apps unless I use the paid version?
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Yes, use either ROM Manager or a recovery to make a nandroid backup. It will backup everything on your phone (apps, settings, etc - not the SD card though of course). The nandroid backup created (which you can also copy to your Computer, to be on the safe side) will be a 'snapshot' of your phone.

[Q] Proper backup help

I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks

Yeah just nandroid (which means backing up the rom and all your settings) and you can go back at any time. In Rom manager just go to Backup current Rom and you will always have a copy of your setup EXACTLY as it is.
You can update HBOOT whenever you want, it really doesn't matter when you do it. Once you do it will stay that way.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't doing a nandroid backup essentially make a complete clone of your entire phone that you can restore later?

eman5oh said:
I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks
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Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!

I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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AlpineM3 said:
I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.

Zoon0n said:
Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!
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Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.

I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
g00s3y said:
How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.
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AlpineM3 said:
I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
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I use 2.5.1.2 and have never personally had any problem, sorry.

eman5oh said:
Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.
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I've gone from Stock to Virtuous to MIUI to CyanogenMod and I can say definitively that I have never had any problems with Titanium backing up/restoring apps. You are asking for trouble if you try to back up system data and restore it for ROM's that they were never intended for - just back up the apps you downloaded from the market/installed yourself and you'll be fine

So here is what I did,
1 Did a Rom back up from Rom manager
2 Backed up user apps with Titanium Pro
3 Updated Clock Work Mod to 2.5.1.2
4 Flashed Hboot from .79 to .92
This is were ran into a problem, after hboot flashed it just went into a boot loop were all I could do is go into hboot or clock work recovery but that is it phone would not boot. I searched a little and read that hboot wipes the kernal and that is why it will not reboot. I then went into clockwork and restored the rom I backed up in step 1, and it worked like a charm. Thought I would share so any one else who runs into this. Now off to flash cm7!

Rocking CM7 now, Thanks for all the help and advice from everyone. The Android community rocks.

Installing CM10 on Galaxy S3...first timer

This is my first custom flash off stock. I have actually had some experience flashing due to accidently flashing from LH9 to LG1, which doesn't work. So I had to install TWRP, do a factory reset, root it, and install LH9 from there.
But I plan on trying out CM10 and I have a few question.
A) Can I just flash CM10 in ROM Manager since it is built in?
B) How can I keep my apps, app data, account data, folders,settings...etc? I have both CWM Pro and Titanium Backup Pro installed.
C) Is there anything that is worse in CM10 than Touchwiz?
D) If I don't like CM10, I can go into CWM ROM Manager and just restore my Backup, correct?

To be honest you need to flash it and give a shot and see what you think, everybody loves something different.
Download from the cm10 build from the link in the xda thread and also get the 10/12 gapps.
Boot to recovery and make a NANDROID BACKUP!
When you install, you will need to do a full wipe.(Wipe Data/Wipe Cache/Wipe Dalvik/Format System in that order to be safe
Flash the cm10 rom and the flash the 10/12 gapps.
Then Reboot!
And enjoy the goodness!
I love CM10 or AOKP much better than TW, just my opinion.
Hope this helps!:cyclops:
GilaMonster1 said:
This is my first custom flash off stock. I have actually had some experience flashing due to accidently flashing from LH9 to LG1, which doesn't work. So I had to install TWRP, do a factory reset, root it, and install LH9 from there.
But I plan on trying out CM10 and I have a few question.
A) Can I just flash CM10 in ROM Manager since it is built in?
B) How can I keep my apps, app data, account data, folders,settings...etc? I have both CWM Pro and Titanium Backup Pro installed.
C) Is there anything that is worse in CM10 than Touchwiz?
D) If I don't like CM10, I can go into CWM ROM Manager and just restore my Backup, correct?
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QnA bud. Good to see you're starting to flash tho.

I've tried many, many ROMs on my S3 but I keep going back to CM10. Even though it's not a stable release for my model it's still awesome

Couldn't I just use ROM Manager since CM10 in on there and wipe data and cache?
Isn't the CWM ROM Manager backup a Nandroid?
How could I keep my apps and most my data...etc?
I appreciate your help, but I was knew how to do it in that way

Use Titanium to backup all your apps & data, boot to CWM recovery take a backup and install CM10 then restore your apps from Titanium, should be that easy!

Yeah, perhaps you guys don't use it, but my question remains. I've backed up using ROM Manager and transferred that image to my PC for an external copy. Couldn't I just install CM10 using ROM Manger as it is supported? Isn't that backup a NANdroid?
Or is it just not preferable?

Thanks for any help guys/

Can someone please answer my questions?

rom manager simply boots into recovery for you and makes the backup itself, etc. however, if you want to do more (wipe /system, etc) you need to go into recovery manually and do it.
sent from my I747

cehf said:
rom manager simply boots into recovery for you and makes the backup itself, etc. however, if you want to do more (wipe /system, etc) you need to go into recovery manually and do it.
sent from my I747
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So basically I should can ROM Manager to upgrade CM10 or restore, but not flash new ROMS?

GilaMonster1 said:
So basically I should can ROM Manager to upgrade CM10 or restore, but not flash new ROMS?
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i'm confused by your wording, sorry. rom manager would be suitable to your needs. it can install a rom for you, but it will only wipe data/factory reset. it will not wipe /system or dalvik cache like so many installation instructions say to do. rom manager can backup your rom and restore your backup.
so yes, you can use it if you choose to, but learning to use cwm would probably be easier in the long run than needing to rely on an app.
sent from my I747

How would I keep photo or music that are on my phone's memory? Aren't they in a SD parition?

GilaMonster1 said:
How would I keep photo or music that are on my phone's memory? Aren't they in a SD parition?
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they are either on the internal sd card or one that you inserted into your phone. you won't lose any data on those.

GilaMonster1 said:
Can someone please answer my questions?
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You should really do some reading over in the development section. They're full of information that can answer all these questions you have.
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[Q] After Rooting Questions

Hi Everyone,
I've just successfully rooted and flashed a customer ROM (ARHD 16.0)
Just want to check the difference between have a custom ROM a stock ROM. Currently I'm still using the phone like it was before. So a few questions from a noob
1. Would the apps and data be wiped out again if I would try another ROM?
2. Is there a way to backup App Data and Settings if ever I would try another ROM or back to stock?
3. What are the things that I can do with a custom ROM/rooted HOX than with a stock one?
Hoping you guys can help me out with maximizing/understanding the things that I can do with my HOX
Thank you!

1.it depends if the next Rom you are going to install needs a full wipe 2. you can backup the apps ...also you can backup the settings using apps ....also I'd you wanna backup the apps make a nandroid backup for the Rom you are using then restore only data ...it it won't work from sense to jelly bean
3.every Rom has its own features and amazing stuff ...and when you root your are able to do awesome things with your phone ..like installing a Rom ....oc uc..change kernels ...install apps that cab do amazing things ...and LOTS if other things
The bottom if line, a phone not rooted is useless

donhashem.dh said:
1.it depends if the next Rom you are going to install needs a full wipe 2. you can backup the apps ...also you can backup the settings using apps ....also I'd you wanna backup the apps make a nandroid backup for the Rom you are using then restore only data ...it it won't work from sense to jelly bean
3.every Rom has its own features and amazing stuff ...and when you root your are able to do awesome things with your phone ..like installing a Rom ....oc uc..change kernels ...install apps that cab do amazing things ...and LOTS if other things
The bottom if line, a phone not rooted is useless
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Thanks for the info.
Is there any specific software/apps that I need to use for the backup of the apps and app data? Does Titanium backup do the trick?
Any other helpful apps that might help? Thanks!

Titanium Backup FTW
jabr0ni said:
Thanks for the info.
Is there any specific software/apps that I need to use for the backup of the apps and app data? Does Titanium backup do the trick?
Any other helpful apps that might help? Thanks!
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U Just answered ur question

[Q] Restoring backups after Lollipop upgrade and TWRP 2.8.6.0

After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!
From reading the dev forums it seems no one else has been able to do so either. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? Is there any toggle (like compression?) that we cant use?
This is a bit of a pain but not the end of the world. Certainly makes me hesitate to mess around with new roms though if I cant go back to my solid daily without having to start from scratch.

khanam said:
After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!
From reading the dev forums it seems no one else has been able to do so either. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? Is there any toggle (like compression?) that we cant use?
This is a bit of a pain but not the end of the world. Certainly makes me hesitate to mess around with new roms though if I cant go back to my solid daily without having to start from scratch.
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I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.

najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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Thats true - I did read about that. And that would definitely explain being unable to restore a kitkat rom.
However, I cant even restore a lollipop backup after flashing a different lollipop rom! Even if they are both derived from the same FOB6 base! That is what is even more confusing. Try it - backup, wipe all the partitions except int and ext sd of course and then try to restore... it just doesnt work!

Way I dit it just use factory reset only don't wipe anything specialy internal storage and don't use format. While restoring TWRP formats partition that been restored. I'm using TWRP 2.7.2.0

I've had no problem restoring from a TWRP Backup on Lollipop numerous times.

najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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I noticed that in every folder in /data/app/ there is an apk called base and a folder lib, can i backup just the apk? Or when i need to share an apk or take an apk i need to take also rhe lib?

dugryce said:
I've had no problem restoring from a TWRP Backup on Lollipop numerous times.
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What is your TWRP version? Also, did you do any wipes before you fully restored a backup?
khanam said:
After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!.
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Does yours ever end up losing touch screen sensitivity when you restore a backup? Mine always looks like it has fully restored everything, but then no response to screen taps.

senozlu1 said:
Way I dit it just use factory reset only don't wipe anything specialy internal storage and don't use format. While restoring TWRP formats partition that been restored. I'm using TWRP 2.7.2.0
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Oh I'll try this and report back. Thanks
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yummymango said:
What is your TWRP version? Also, did you do any wipes before you fully restored a backup?
Does yours ever end up losing touch screen sensitivity when you restore a backup? Mine always looks like it has fully restored everything, but then no response to screen taps.
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Mine just fails. But then again I've been wiping the partitions before restoring. Maybe that impacts it?
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khanam said:
Mine just fails. But then again I've been wiping the partitions before restoring. Maybe that impacts it?
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One of the devs, who runs the Lollipop ROM I've been using, warned against restoring data. He suggested backing up apps + data through Titanium Backup instead. Maybe it depends on the ROM?

najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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Hi
I have a rooted S4 running Carbon. Im using TWRP 2.8.5.0 and can backup and restore any
KK rom with no issues. I can flash Lollipop and backup but it will not restore this backup.
Its says restore successful but then just boots back into recovery. If someone could resolve
this it would be great

Hello all,
TB doesn't seem to pick up the apk file when backing up which is quite frustrating. Does anyone have a solution?

i had backup using TWRP 2.8.7.0 my stock TW lollipop rom...Now i had flashed Dirty Unicorns v9.5...If i wanted to goto stock rom that nandroid backup wont work??? thats what people are complaining over here??