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[Q] Themeing Market Apps on DK28

Has anyone had success themeing Market apps (just changing png files) with DK28? I have done it numerous times on DI18 with no problem. On DK28 the md5sum in changing and all apps are deleted off the handset. Anyone figure a technique around this?
This is directly a theming question, hence posted in the theme thread, if that's not cool report it to your mod no need in 50 post unless 50 post deal with theming market apps.

dreamsforgotten said:
Has anyone had success themeing Market apps (just changing png files) with DK28? I have done it numerous times on DI18 with no problem. On DK28 the md5sum in changing and all apps are deleted off the handset. Anyone figure a technique around this?
This is directly a theming question, hence posted in the theme thread, if that's not cool report it to your mod no need in 50 post unless 50 post deal with theming market apps.
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I've been able to theme market apps, XDA for one, and a few others I messed with all seemed ok to me, though I didn't keep them

Hit me on gtalk you might be able to shed some insight if you dont mind
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i have absolutely no experience actually doing so but from what i have read, you can theme a market app but you have to put it in /system/app due to what you mentioned, i guess market apps all check their own md5 and if its different it bombs.

Thanks. I actually got it straight. I chose not to use the system folder because we dont need to hog the space if its not needed. The trick was to re sign the app, put it on the sd card, delete the app from the phone, and install via astro. Works as intended and pushed most of them to sd card after!
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thats actually really fricken great! hadnt heard that solution but yes, you obvioulsy dont want to hog /system like that. good to know

[Q] Why do developers add apps?

The one thing that bugs me on most of the ROMs out there is the fact that developers insist on pushing their favorites apps. Which makes the ROM larger and in some cases the apps are unable to be uninstalled. I just never got this and I was just wondering why they do this.
Most of these apps are completely useless to the ROM (by that i mean they don't serve any function to the ROM):
XDA
Dolphin Browser
Amazon App Store
WiFi or USB Tether (in the cases they aren't modified)
Any of the Launchers
Handcent
File Explorers
Google+
MyBackUp

The spots are easy to uninstall
Use the sdx app remover
And if you don't like their style don't use their roms
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You could also use titanium backup to uninstall them.

Easy answer. They build roms the way they want for their phone, then share with the rest of us.

shane6374 said:
Easy answer. They build roms the way they want for their phone, then share with the rest of us.
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We got a winner.
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CompCrash said:
The one thing that bugs me on most of the ROMs out there is the fact that developers insist on pushing their favorites apps. Which makes the ROM larger and in some cases the apps are unable to be uninstalled. I just never got this and I was just wondering why they do this.
Most of these apps are completely useless to the ROM (by that i mean they don't serve any function to the ROM):
XDA
Dolphin Browser
Amazon App Store
WiFi or USB Tether (in the cases they aren't modified)
Any of the Launchers
Handcent
File Explorers
Google+
MyBackUp
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Useless probably wouldn't be an entirely fair statement for all the items in your list.
Examples:
1. File Explorers...If the ROM developer wisely takes out the relatively elementary stock file browser, they need to replace it with something otherwise you wouldn't be able to get at your files without installing one on your own.
2. Any of the Launchers...Often times, TouchWiz launcher is removed in these custom ROMs...There would certainly be an issue if it wasn't replaced with something...Right?
As for the rest of the items, these folks are trying to build a streamlined, yet useful, ROM which generally would appeal to anyone for daily use based on their own preference/experience.
FWIW...You should/could simply use 7zip or Archive Manager to open, not extract the ROM zip, which will allow you to delete/add/update whatever apps you'd like in the /system/app or /data/app folder prior to flashing the ROM...Seriously, it's that easy.

shane6374 said:
Easy answer. They build roms the way they want for their phone, then share with the rest of us.
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Ding ding ding!
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

Wow, the nerver of some people, Ill make a zip that only contains the words ROM and zip just for you o_0

CompCrash said:
The one thing that bugs me on most of the ROMs out there is the fact that developers insist on pushing their favorites apps. Which makes the ROM larger and in some cases the apps are unable to be uninstalled. I just never got this and I was just wondering why they do this.
Most of these apps are completely useless to the ROM (by that i mean they don't serve any function to the ROM):
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Most roms of a matching firmware revision are 90% similar fundamentally. After that, dev's aim to share an experience in functionality.
XDA: A quick and easy app to keep track of your favorite rom so you don't have to!
Dolphin Browser: The stock browser is clunky, slow, and a ram hog. Many devs remove it and substitute a more efficient and battery friendly alternative.
Amazon App Store: Provides access to daily free apps, but can't be installed from the Android Market. Who doesn't like free apps?
WiFi or USB Tether (in the cases they aren't modified): I'm not even sure what could be said against this.
Any of the Launchers: The built-in Touchwiz is generally dislike-able. A preference of the dev.
Handcent: Many find this to be nicer and more functional than the stock mms.
File Explorers: You pretty much have to have one of these, and they're almost all more useful than MyFiles.
Google+: Well I can't argue this one, I generally remove most Google Apps to avoid incessant synchronizing.
MyBackUp: People like to restore their apps after an install. Having something like this included in the install expedites the process.
I generally assemble a rom so that these "unnecessary" apps are readily removed. Or as mentioned, you could simply use 7zip to delete anything you like prior to flashing. Or yet again, feel free to not use said roms.

Here is a suggestion for the OP. Make your own ROM with what you feel is "important and useful" and share it with us but make sure there is nothing that we might deem useless in it. And before anyone mentions NO I am not a developer nor do I really want to be but I support our devs 110%!

[Q] Remove System Apps??

hey guys i rooted my phone a few weeks back and now an running synergy sense 3.0.
how do i go about deleting the system apps or stock apps that phone will not simply let u uninstall is there an app to do that or do i have to go through the phone hardware itself??

View attachment SdxAppRemoval-1.5.apk
i use this
be careful you can delete important stuff, use caution. back up first!!

I use Titanium Backup to remove system apps.
It has the capability to "freeze" them without actually removing them. This is helpful when you don't really want to get rid of it permanently but just want to stop it from running on its own.
It also allows you to be sure that no problems will be caused by removing the app. If something else depends on it and you start getting force closes you can thaw the app to recover it.
Once you are sure that you want to be rid of it forever you can remove it completely.

off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?

+1 for using Titanium Backup to remove system apps.

kam0603 said:
off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?
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At one time I saw someone here trying to build a comprehensive list. Definitely can remove the 'bloat' like Amazon MP3, NASCAR, NFL, Kindle, Nova, Sprint Navigation, and the other Sprint apps.
Things that get you into trouble are things that are integrated into Android (like Google Talk) or HTC Sense.
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This is the list I was thinking of:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...EZSd1pFTy1OTlEzWTZkZ3BpS2JXdlE&hl=en_US#gid=0
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misfits MisfitROmV1.2 with ChopSuey kernel works really REALLY well for me and it dosent have almost all the stuff and you can download the stuff you want, (i just did youtube and maps) only downside is he aint around no more. still rom works great

Stock Apps (Safe to remove)

Hi, i were thinking of deleting some stock apps on my Oppo Find 7a..
Is there a list somewhere where i can see which apps that are safe to delete..?
I want to do it to cut down a little on ram and battery use..
Looking forward to your answers

supernielsen said:
Hi, i were thinking of deleting some stock apps on my Oppo Find 7a..
Is there a list somewhere where i can see which apps that are safe to delete..?
I want to do it to cut down a little on ram and battery use..
Looking forward to your answers
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Great question, would also like to know this information if anyone knows.

try downloading "cleanmaster security" free from playstore in the menu go into apps and it will give you a list of apps that are safe to uninstall,just do one at a time,give it a few hours or maybe half a day and then try another one,make a list as you go so you know what to restore if you have issues

Let me start out by stating this is just what I froze. Obviously I wasn't using the stock launcher so don't freeze/uninstall that if you are. I saw no major problems with all that stuff frozen. I would suggest you freeze vs uninstall that way you can unfreeze if you have problems. If I remember correctly this was on COS 2.0 beta.
Find what? Who the heck is OPPO?

Apps that can be safely Frozen or Removed

Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
Frozen/Removed
Cell Broadcast
E-Mail
Documents
File Manager
Internet/Stock Browser
LG Health
LG Search Widget Provider
LG Setup Wizard
McAfee Security
Messaging (stock)
Music
Video
Video Trim
Weather
Weather Theme
Weather Platform
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users

557953 said:
Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users
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I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.

Lennyuk said:
I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.
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Understood, you are most likely correct. Google Apps removed from list

If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks

Get my G3 later today. Thanks for the list! I'm completely new to Android, so how do I remove bloat ware?

you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software

walkerx said:
you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software
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I didn't find the apk by myself, but root uninstaller found somehow

Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?

alphamini said:
Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?
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They do different things. Freezing them is like uninstalling them - they are gone and won't work at all but can be retrieved by unfreezing. Greenifying them just hibernates them but they work as normal.

bartito said:
If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks
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Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370

I wonder if anyone has the time, patience, and good will to compile all of these threads into one master index?
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370
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I've noticed that the system doesn't allow you to disable everything if you're not rooted so maybe anything you are allowed to disable is safe to disable.
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drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.

Horcza said:
And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.
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Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.

drock212 said:
Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?

Horcza said:
Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?
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Correct. I have mine frozen to avoid receiving update notifications. Also this is good until you find out if the new update is rootable. If its not then its good to stick with the current software.

drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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My list is almost this one of yours. Had to unfreeze some of those because it made the home screen very lagged.

Everything Google uninstalled or frozen for over 2 weeks. No problems or complaints.

thanks the development has really taken off for this great device

So I froze most of these. Will it free up memory or do I have to delete them? Kinda scared to delete them. I have nandroid backup, just hate to possibly have to restore when the phone is running good.