Develop Bugs

Open Letter to XDA Regarding strongsteve

In regards to what happened with strongsteve earlier this evening, I hope that you will come to the realization that you made a mistake. I know that you are attempting to work it out with Steve directly, but that resolution could, and should, be an admission of your misstep and immediate correction of the error.
I don't think anyone on here would argue with your logic in breaking the forums up into general topics. But in this case, the area was gray at best. If all of Steve's users and supporters knew his work and his information to be in the Dev section, what is the harm in leaving it in the Dev section? Instead, you so insulted a great contributor to the point that he felt compelled to shut his project down. I would strongly argue that that is far more harmful than having Steve's work appear in the Dev section of the forum.
I'm not suggesting that the notion of sub-forums be removed. We can't have chaos here. But in the case of something so gray, something so questionable, you made a bad call. Hell, I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this thread gets moved. But I wanted Steve and his supporters to read this, and this is the sub-forum they are trolling.
So I ask you to simply right your wrong. Because if you don't, a great many of us are going to miss out on some fantastic DEV WORK that Steve is doing.

So what I miss?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

locoboi187 said:
So what I miss?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mod:
This is clearly a themed ROM - using a base that is a deodexed base of the stock ROM. This is not an Original Development ROM, but is a themed ROM - so it is moved to Themes & Apps. It is entirely appropriate to place themed ROMs in the Themes section.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Steve:
I will no longer be supporting these roms or developing any more odexed modded roms since they are not considered worthy for the Dev section
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Just read his threads. His work is original development. Go read a dictionary for "develop" ... Jerdog is in the wrong. Taking away CIQ is not a theme either lol. He was the first to have it odexed, it is original
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao

SupahDave said:
I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm more civilized compared to others when it comes to moving threads. It's the internet,nbd lol
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

in b4 lock

Also in regards to "original" development. This isn't the international thread for the galaxy s2. They have separate sections for original development and the other normal development. We have one, it's called development, and the developer was only developing
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint

These guys are rough.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

T.C.P said:
just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+100000000
Sent from my Galaxy S II

Not to troll but I'm sure this thread will be closed in a few so I'd like to comment about this situation.. I don't know the full jist but I would think that we as a community would do anything in our power to keep these devs happy cause without them we got NOTHING...Well maybe Rootzwiki but Like I just said....NADA!!! So I support Steve all the way!!!

Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have. Looking over the thread I can see how this decision by the mods is heavy handed.

What ROM did Steve make?

psych2l said:
Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree with this.
one less dev. not cool.

jerdog said:
I think you missed the point here - no one is saying what has been done here isn't worthy - quite the contrary. This is an effort to move things that are original development and separate them from things that are MOD's and Themes. There is a difference between creating a ROM from scratch and theming someone else's work by taking pieces from here and there, making changes and then zipping it up into an update.zip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!

This is not a school we are grown people that are subpose to make a community of something we enjoy since when did everyone get there panties In a twist and further more I like to see the moderator Dec anything cause last time I check every rom has sprints of base and everey. Rom thread has thank yous to other devs. Tweaks . Let us work together cause if stuff like this keeps happening people are gonna start jumping ship to rootswiki it ppc. And that's my 2 cents VERY DISAPPOINTED XDA!
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

ervman1 said:
This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you can flash separate mods if you are deodexed, but Steve odexed some of those mods that otherwise were only meant to be used on deodexed roms by their original developers. As I understand, he was working on odexing others as well. In addition, the other roms on here include all sorts of mods created by others. The all also give credit where credit is due, Steve included as stated previously.
Please leave Strongsteve's roms in the dev section as he has created the only odexed roms with the goodies we all want to have and was continually adding more as he revised the original mods to be compatible with an odexed rom.

PLEASE!! be nice to Strongsteve's he does deserve the respect..... at the same time I wanna give a shoutout to Strongsteve's for all the great job he has done. I thank you very much.

I totally agree with this and feel they are way off base. I support strongsteve fully.
It takes a lot to admit being wrong but that is what needs to happen here from mods.
It was nice to finally see odexed getting some respect not to mention the dev section for this phone finally getting a good amount of activity.
A good thing has been taken away. Please reconsider.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

【DEV】[CM7] from source - CyanoGenMod -- by motafoca

this is the continuation of a thread that was unfortunately closed by the admin.
original link
Our fellow developer motafoca ( <-- link) is working on ports of CyanoGenMod to several phones.
motafoca wrote:
"I am making a linux server for android compilation, it will be for public usage (for developers), I will have all the tools required for cyangenmod compilations"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
other Cyanogen discussions pertaining to SGY:
the current DEV thread is the most productive as of now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583959
general section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590977&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554810&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1561333&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543419&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493431&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497064&highlight=cm7

Nice bro
Thanks!!!
PS: thanks button duly pressed

PM
I PMed mota on this thread, maybe he has some news.

mai77 said:
this is the continuation of a thread that was unfortunately closed by the admin.
Our fellow developer motafoca is working on ports of CyanoGenMod to several phones.
motafoca wrote:
"I am making a linux server for android compilation, it will be for public usage (for developers), I will have all the tools required for cyangenmod compilations"
original link
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
other Cyanogen discussions pertaining to SGY:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590977&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554810&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1561333&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543419&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493431&highlight=cm7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497064&highlight=cm7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what the use of some thread that already closed?why you include cips thread?are you aware what he did to us??mostly of the thread you include are only discussion and dosnt included sources from github so that other developer my see it..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

deletions
neil05 said:
what the use of some thread that already closed?why you include cips thread?are you aware what he did to us??
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if threads get closed it may or may not be justified. I know of some significant cases of wrongful thread closing/moving etc.. Since so much stuff gets deleted here, one must be forgiven if s.o. cannot read up to certain cases, such as CIPS GOHKLE. so what was the problem there ?

mai77 said:
if threads get closed it may or may not be justified. I know of some significant cases of wrongful thread closing/moving etc.. Since so much stuff gets deleted here, one must be forgiven if s.o. cannot read up to certain cases, such as CIPS GOHKLE. so what was the problem there ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ya thats right..bcoz if any one is coming forward to help us...the result is the wrongful closing of thread or any other action....

Glad there're someone nice to port cm7 for our sgy

mai77 said:
if threads get closed it may or may not be justified. I know of some significant cases of wrongful thread closing/moving etc.. Since so much stuff gets deleted here, one must be forgiven if s.o. cannot read up to certain cases, such as CIPS GOHKLE. so what was the problem there ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i know your intension and you are just helping bro. but the mods have rules in closing threads and they gave their reasons why they are closing some threads. some cm7 thread where closed because its for development only and it became a off topic and Q &A thread and the OP have no further development in porting the rom. maybe mods only teach us how to be a responsible member here in xda.I know you know what i'm talking about you are a senior member in xda. thanks..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

Great one mai thanks for the thread, and about news yes you right

Well if you look at most of the Dev threads here 50 out of 60 pages are people asking for updates or or saying wow this is great.
They are probably being closed to teach a lesson. Not that anyone will learn.
Sent from my GT-S5360 using Tapatalk

any update to this development thread?

Although Maroc and Motafoca are teaming for cm7, I really miss Motafoca.Wish he comes back.

Is cm9 based on ext4.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the galaxy y file system on rfs?
this auto corrected post sent from my Galaxy Y running something.

Please lock and trash, thanks!

I screwed up and I feel bad about it, sorry klin.

Re: [ROM] PACMAN 4.2.1 Optimized [d2tmo]
First !!!!
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app

Re: [ROM] PACMAN 4.2.1 Optimized [d2tmo]
Second!
sent from my wicked pink sgs3

Re: [ROM] PACMAN 4.2.1 Optimized [d2tmo]
nvmehaterz said:
Second!
sent from my wicked pink sgs3[/QUOTE
Pm me
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

You never PM'ed me or mentioned anything to me about using my PACMan as a base ROM. I would have preferred if you were more courteous and asked for permission first.
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
As an addition, developers have the right to hold exclusivity over their work for as long as it is deemed necessary by the dev or freely share it. However, if the work is claimed as exclusive, it must remain as such. No selective sharing will be allowed (ie allowing certain people to use it and not others). Should the dev decide to start sharing the work with others, the work automatically becomes fair game for all to use.
In regards to permissions, same rules remain for this but if permission was already given, unless there is a very valid reason, it cannot be revoked (same applies to major updates on the work). Under that same premise, permissions cannot be denied unless the work is exclusive or under severe circumstances.
In plain English: If you want to keep your work exclusive, go for it. However, if you are going to share your work, do it fairly.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA (including but not limited to ROMs, RUUs, apps, games, kernels, themes, icons, etc) unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

klin1344 said:
You never PM'ed me or mentioned anything to me about using my PACMan as a base ROM. I would have preferred if you were more courteous and asked for permission first.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry bro, I mean no disrespect. I'll remove it out of respect for you. My dearest apologizes.

Locked to OP's request

[Q] Simplistic Framework thread

The Simplistic Framework thread has dissapeared. Any1 knows if the dev stopped or something?

+1

Da*** ? Just realised it. Maybe hes gonna make another one but that would be illogical.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38533796&postcount=815
Sent from my GT-N7100

This is where you can watch and comment on SF development.
Only GooglePlay?

VRilski said:
This is where you can watch and comment on SF development.
Only GooglePlay?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not here but legendk95 should be planning to do it somewhere or the other.
Sent from my GT-N7100

according to his post, xda moderators closed his thread because he is charging for his app.
but i really dont see anything wrong with this, he does offered a "lite" version and a paid version.

sunwee said:
according to his post, xda moderators closed his thread because he is charging for his app.
but i really dont see anything wrong with this, he does offered a "lite" version and a paid version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From the rules:
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems pretty clear, if you require payment for certain features, you can't use xda to advertise your product. If the free/paid versions offered the same functionality, there would be no problem.

That's BS!
Just searched for JKay's Deluxe Framework for SIII and that thread also disappeared -> so 2 GREAT things were not only closed but completly deleted from XDA.
LegendK made his simplistic framework with some goodies (FREE), the awesome "MultiWindow App/MOD" (FREE) for it and - if you wanted more - you were able to DONATE to him to get FULL CONTROL over his stuff.
He didn't break the rules, he just bended them.
So what was the problem?
Someone should start a petition.

floyd0815 said:
Just searched for JKay's Deluxe Framework for SIII and that thread also disappeared -> so 2 GREAT things were not only closed but completly deleted from XDA.
LegendK made his simplistic framework with some goodies (FREE), the awesome "MultiWindow App/MOD" (FREE) for it and - if you wanted more - you were able to DONATE to him to get FULL CONTROL over his stuff.
He didn't break the rules, he just bended them.
So what was the problem?
Someone should start a petition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You gonna start a petition against xda ?
How many supporters have you got already?
Sent from my GT-N7100

I said "someone".
Also it shouldn't be against XDA but against the rule or decision.

The rules clearly say that.
I don't know the reason but there is gotta be some reason why the staff has set it.
Sent from my GT-N7100

This sucks bigtime. Lucky I still had the latest version backupped.
I know there are rules in place, but I guess the closure of the thread is quite demotivating for Legend.
Afaik, the thread was about the framework. The control app is an extra you can buy... Nevertheless, there's no way back, and hopefully he'll start another thread.

Wow this sucks! Hopefully he opens his own site/forum.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029712
Booyah xD
Sent from my GT-N7100

Cm source code released?

Unless I am totally mistaken, I thought I saw a post on GOOGPLE + that CM SOurce Code for our phone was released by the Cynogenmod Team yesterday - I may have read it wrong, but that is what it looked like to me - if true, that opens the door to our talented devs to begin working on new CM ROMS for the NOTE 3 -
I sure hope that is what I read - anyone see anything on this?

Please use the search. Numerous threads about this already.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

People dont like to search clearly. If they did then they would have noticed there is already a build . Just not released yet.
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

diamantericos said:
People dont like to search clearly. If they did then they would have noticed there is already a build . Just not released yet.
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really do try to use search - and I apologize if I have offended your sensabilities, in my excitement about this announcement it seemed to me to be big news. Maybe I misunderstood - for that I am sorry to have cluttered the threads with a meaningless entry.
. I also know that someone is working on porting CM over to our phone but I believe this is a totally different thing - I may be wrong but porting means building a new rom using an existing one from another phone - working with source allows you to create a new rom using the source code - which in effect would create a rom exclusively for this phone. BUT, I am not a dev - just a flasher - and I do not know as much as many who call XDA "home".
so anyway - forgive me for jumping to a conclusion that appears to have been wrong - the fact that this guy announced he was releasing CM SOURCE CODE YESTERDAYT seemed to me to be unique - and different from what has been posted previously - I must have been wrong.

mocsab said:
I really do try to use search - and I apologize if I have offended your sensabilities, in my excitement about this announcement it seemed to me to be big news. Maybe I misunderstood - for that I am sorry to have cluttered the threads with a meaningless entry.
. I also know that someone is working on porting CM over to our phone but I believe this is a totally different thing - I may be wrong but porting means building a new rom using an existing one from another phone - working with source allows you to create a new rom using the source code - which in effect would create a rom exclusively for this phone. BUT, I am not a dev - just a flasher - and I do not know as much as many who call XDA "home".
so anyway - forgive me for jumping to a conclusion that appears to have been wrong - the fact that this guy announced he was releasing CM SOURCE CODE YESTERDAYT seemed to me to be unique - and different from what has been posted previously - I must have been wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude tmo has a cm build right now. If u would quit posting useless tuff and check the general section u would see.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

jdidtht said:
Dude tmo has a cm build right now. If u would quit posting useless tuff and check the general section u would see.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so much for your positive reinforcement - I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate your kind words and guidance.

thread closed at OP request