Hi all,
couple time ago I bought DHD, after few days I have rooted and unlocked bootloader. After that I have tested few custom roms and now I have simple question. Do I have to make my device s-off, because it is still s-on. When I read few instalation instructions I can see that: s-off is required. Or 4ext is required. How can I replace CWM 5.x to 4ext?
Regards, MaPa.
You don't need S-Off. You probably don't need 4ext. It's only that if you're SOn, you need to flash the boot.img from fastboot each time you flash a ROM.
So, s-off and 4ext are needed only for flashing boot.img with out cable ?
mlotek01 said:
So, s-off and 4ext are needed only for flashing boot.img with out cable ?
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No that's not quite right, with s-off you can flash rom direct, no need to flash boot.img at all its done while flashing rom...
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Ok, but which method is the most secure to get s-off?
mlotek01 said:
Ok, but which method is the most secure to get s-off?
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You can try aahk2 thread in the general section.
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Sorry for the long ? I did read some where if you have Soff you don't need to flash boot.IMG every time when flashing a ROM can i just flash the zip with cwm
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elsworth1983 said:
Sorry for the long ? I did read some where if you have Soff you don't need to flash boot.IMG every time when flashing a ROM can i just flash the zip with cwm
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Yes, if S-Off you can flash directly from the device itself, using CWM etc.
Are you sure you have an S-Off HOX? If so Lucky you !!
People have been searching for S-Off on HOX for a long time now, with no result !
Unlocking with htcdev doesn't give you s-off so you will still need to flash the boot.img with fastboot
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bogfather said:
Unlocking with htcdev doesn't give you s-off so you will still need to flash the boot.img with fastboot
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Cheers that clears that up for me
So, i just bought this one X from a tech reviewer, it's s-off and cid is like 111111111111, now how do i flash a custom recovery? Can i simply use the one x toolkit and jump straight to recovery flashing?
R: [Q] S-OFF, then how to flash recovery without unlocking the bootloader?
I think you still have to unlock the bootloader and flash with fastboot the recovery
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elmerendeiro said:
So, i just bought this one X from a tech reviewer, it's s-off and cid is like 111111111111, now how do i flash a custom recovery? Can i simply use the one x toolkit and jump straight to recovery flashing?
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As i know, u still have to unlockbootloader, install the custom recovery like CWM through fastboot
R: [Q] S-OFF, then how to flash recovery without unlocking the bootloader?
As recovery, I recommend TWRP, is better than CWM
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i don't think it's possible
I have the same. Unlock bootloader as normal. Use the hassoon toolkit if you like. Enjoy s-off and flash any hboot. I use cwm for recovery. Flash your Rom as usual, you don't need to worry about flashing the boot.img separately when you have s-off.
Enjoy
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R: [Q] S-OFF, then how to flash recovery without unlocking the bootloader?
Ok guys, thanks
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elmerendeiro said:
Ok guys, thanks
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DONT UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. It's not needed at all, all it will do is destroy your waranty!
M4Kval said:
DONT UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. It's not needed at all, all it will do is destroy your waranty!
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oh come on i just finshed unlocking, are you kidding me?
M4Kval said:
DONT UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. It's not needed at all, all it will do is destroy your waranty!
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If you have only the s-off and if the bootloader is locked, you can't do anything...
Sorry afaik you need a unlocked bootloader at least to flash the custom recovery....its not possible without unlocking it even if you have s-off. You will get errors while flashing it with fastboot.....
Yep, I needed mine unlocked to flash custom recovery.
Assume you read the HTC disclaimer when doing it. If you want to flash then we take the risks.
Technically your warranty is not completely void however if HTC think they can blame a fault on the use of a custom Rom then they probably will. For example if the hw buttons break this obviously is not a Rom problem.
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herbie13 said:
Yep, I needed mine unlocked to flash custom recovery.
Assume you read the HTC disclaimer when doing it. If you want to flash then we take the risks.
Technically your warranty is not completely void however if HTC think they can blame a fault on the use of a custom Rom then they probably will. For example if the hw buttons break this obviously is not a Rom problem.
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OK, it's alright then, thanks for the info
I Am Using Viper Rom On My Desire HD...
I Have Bootloader unlocked by htc dev method.
Now i want to flash a custom kernel.
I want to know how to flash kernel.zip in an unlocked bootloader...s-on
And Can I use Any Kernel With My rom?
And Will Flashing Kernel Format Data?
Plz Help...
Thanks In Advance.
Nope sorry, you can't flash kernel seperatly with s-on and unlocked bootloader. If you make s-off you can.
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Lavi26jan said:
I Am Using Viper Rom On My Desire HD...
I Have Bootloader unlocked by htc dev method.
Now i want to flash a custom kernel.
I want to know how to flash kernel.zip in an unlocked bootloader...s-on
And Can I use Any Kernel With My rom?
And Will Flashing Kernel Format Data?
Plz Help...
Thanks In Advance.
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The kernel must be compatible with the ROM. Usually, Sense version and Android version need to match.
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Nope sorry, you can't flash kernel seperatly with s-on and unlocked bootloader. If you make s-off you can.
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Er, why not?
bananagranola said:
The kernel must be compatible with the ROM. Usually, Sense version and Android version need to match.
Er, why not?
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I'm sorry, is it actually possible to flash a kernel with unlocked bootloader and s-on? Before I s-offed, I could not flash New kernel via recovery, is there a way to do it other than via recovery?
Edit: I suppose if the new kernel was in boot.IMG format, then you could flash it in fastboot.
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I'm sorry, is it actually possible to flash a kernel with unlocked bootloader and s-on? Before I s-offed, I could not flash New kernel via recovery, is there a way to do it other than via recovery?
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boot.img using fastboot?
bananagranola said:
boot.img using fastboot?
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Lol yes just edited my op..
But can you flash the raw kernel that is not in image format?
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ranger4740 said:
Lol yes just edited my op..
But can you flash the raw kernel that is not in image format?
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Not that I'm aware of.
ranger4740 said:
Lol yes just edited my op..
But can you flash the raw kernel that is not in image format?
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yes The Kernel In the .zip format can be flashed in two steps.
First Flash The Zip File In Recovery
Then Flash Boot.img via Fastboot,fastboot flash boot boot.img
Lavi26jan said:
yes The Kernel In the .zip format can be flashed in two steps.
First Flash The Zip File In Recovery
Then Flash Boot.img via Fastboot,fastboot flash boot boot.img
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What's the first step for?
I think the whole point of this thread was the op wants to try different kernel with existing Rom on the phone using a kernel.zip .
My original answer was if your s-on you can't flash a new kernel.
What I didn't however include is you can't do it via recovery, using a downloaded kernel.zip which was my mistake. But I would have thought that was obvious, because that was the original question.
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But...what does flashing the zip do that flashing the image doesn't? Am I missing something?
bananagranola said:
But...what does flashing the zip do that flashing the image doesn't? Am I missing something?
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According to me,The Flash Zip is required to place the files in the system directories...
It would be the same reason you have to flash the boot.IMG manually after flashing a Rom from recovery (cwm, 4ext etc) because it doesn't get flashed to the boot, same reason kernel doesn't flash via recovery. HTC unlock but still s-on doesn't allow you to mess with kernel directly or via recovery except using fastboot.
Atleast that's my understanding.
May I also add my own personal experience, I went straight to htcdev to unlock my phone, my experience with my HTC legend gave me the knowledge to do it without issue except the boot.img which through me a little. Long story short after flashing Rom and boot.img I wanted to try new kernel but it wouldn't work then I used google and found out via a different forum site the reason, which is HTC'S official unlock does not allow access to kernel with s-on....
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Hey guys, I just have a quick question I wanted to get clarified. I'm S-on and HTCDev unlocked. When flashing roms from our development section, do we need to flash the boot.img separately via fastboot? The reason I ask is this is not address specifically in the Rom threads in our section, but looking at the Droid DNA, this appears to be necessary for folks who are s-on.
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jedifire said:
Hey guys, I just have a quick question I wanted to get clarified. I'm S-on and HTCDev unlocked. When flashing roms from our development section, do we need to flash the boot.img separately via fastboot? The reason I ask is this is not address specifically in the Rom threads in our section, but looking at the Droid DNA, this appears to be necessary for folks who are s-on.
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I have been away from HTC for a bit but to the best that I can recall you can't flash kernels in recovery via S-ON, only with S-OFF.
thus, you flash ROM, then reboot to fastboot flash kernel reboot and touchdown!
andybones said:
I have been away from HTC for a bit but to the best that I can recall you can't flash kernels in recovery via S-ON, only with S-OFF.
thus, you flash ROM, then reboot to fastboot flash kernel reboot and touchdown!
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Thanks Andy, wasn't quite sure based on the info I was seeing, now back to flashing!
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You can flash boot from recovery if HTCDev unlocked, no S-off needed. An unlocked S-on is basically like a Nexus device, you can flash everything you SHOULD be flashing . See Koush's post about this https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
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xenakis said:
You can flash boot from recovery if HTCDev unlocked, no S-off needed. An unlocked S-on is basically like a Nexus device, you can flash everything you SHOULD be flashing . See Koush's post about this https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
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This is a great explanation and really shows that S-OFF is not a "necessity" as it was before. HTC seems to have listened to concerns regarding DEV Unlock on the One by allowing boot.img to be flashed from recovery.
Thank you for the feedback guys, its been very helpful!
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So I am about to sunshine the phone and get S-OFF, I've never owned an HTC before this and am used to samsung methods, IE odin. What do I need to do once I get s-off? I read here and there about downgrading firmware so I can actually install roms and such, but what do I do if I am on sense 6 with 4.4.2?
Use sunshine to s-off unlock then you can flash a custom recovery from the hboot (bootloader). Then flash a custom Rom or flash super su zip if you want stock Rom through custom recovery.
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Uzephi said:
Use sunshine to s-off unlock then you can flash a custom recovery from the hboot (bootloader). Then flash a custom Rom or flash super su zip if you want stock Rom through custom recovery.
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Will I need to downgrade anything since I am on the latest OTA?
asacado said:
Will I need to downgrade anything since I am on the latest OTA?
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nope sunshine was updated to work with the latest OTA.
An incredibly easy way to do it is to just use the WinDroid tool somebody posted in the development section. It does everything with one click.
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An incredibly easy way to do it is to just use the WinDroid tool somebody posted in the development section. It does everything with one click.
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It will not unlock the Verizon HTC one bootloader. Verizon ordered HTC to not allow our cid be unlocked via htcdev. We have to use the s-off exploits to unlock also.
This means WinDroid will not do everything.
Although it will aid in installing custom recovery and flashing Rom.
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