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hi there
i really need your help. i'm trying to install android on my HTC TyTnII. But i'm having problems to install.
can you please help me to get Android run on my Kaiser?
Right now i'm running the windows mobile 6.1. I want to install Android as a secondary OS.
i followed this installation guide.
androidonhtc.com/wiki/Installing_Android
1. I went to this link to download files.
androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_%28Kaiser%29
2. I downloaded the basefiles-20091116.zip
vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/basefiles-20091116.zip
3. Unzipped this zip file. Renamed the default-kaiser.txt to default.txt and moved the whole folder "android" to my storagecard.
4. then i downloaded the haretinstall.zip and unzipped that file as well. I moved the folder "andboot" to my storagecard.
sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-02-20/haretinstall.zip/download
5. then i downloaded the polymod_2.1g.zip and unzipped that file. I moved the file "androidinstall.tar" to my storagecard as well.
ponack.net/poly/2.1g/polymod_2.1g.zip
6. i clicked than on "haret.exe" and clicked on Run. the android started to load but then it stops. It gives me this error.
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Checking for partition...
s2fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-209)
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determing whether /dev/block/loop0 is mounted.
/dev/block/loop0 was not cleanly unmounted. check for ced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/block/loop0: 11/65536 files (0.0% non-contigous), 10335/262144 blocks
losetup: /dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory
Failed
Failed to find system.im on SD Card
/bib/sh: can't access tty1 job control turned off
/ #
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Can anyone help me out to solve the problem?
Do i need to do some partition? if yes...how can i do it? i'm using a windows xp OS.
This is how my SD-storagecard looks like:
/[android]
/[android]/[andboot]
/[android]/androidinstall.tar
Thank you for your support.
The androidinstall.tar should be in andboot folder, with all the haret files. andboot must be in root of SD card.
/
/andboot
If you were installing to nand it'd be :
/KAISimg.nbh
/andboot
You do not need to partition the SD card, just make sure it is formatted FAT32, not FAT
hi zenity
thanks for the response. I did what you said. Still having the same problem with the same error message.
how do i check format of my sd card? i've never formated it before. it's the original sd card.
Depends if you have an sd card reader and adaptor for micro-sd, if you do you can just format it in windows.
It's likely that it's formatted FAT, most new pre-formatted micro-sd are formatted FAT as standard, how are you transferring files to the sd at the moment?
i connected my htc with microsoft activesync then transfered the files via windows explorer.
i'm still struggeling to get android run on my device.
are those steps correct? or am i doing something totally wrong?
those installation guide are too complicated for me. the instructions are mostly for total replacement of the OS. But i would like to keep my windows mobile because of tomtom navigator. I want to make both OS run with Dual booting function.
if you are so kind...can you please guide me to make this run? I'll be thankful for that.
Best way to format an SD card is to use a card reader and micro-sd adaptor, I've never tried to format an SD with winmo or through activesync, so I'm not sure how easy that is.
I have transferred the files via activesync before, and that works fine, but your SD card must be FAT32, winmo probably does not know the difference, I'm sure there must be a way to format the card FAT32 in winmo, but I cannot think of one, I'll look into it though. I think total commander is able to show what type of format the sd card is, but don't know if it's able to format it.
All the Haret files plus the androidinstall.tar must be in the andboot folder on the SD card, you do not need any other files or folders on the card, but it should not matter if there are any.
You will need an SD card of at least 1GB, 2Gb is better.
I know the guide is meant for Nand install, but does show the installer screen part clearly, and the install procedure is the same for nand and haret, and shows the installer screen you should see when installing on FAT32, (haret).
Download Card Export or WM5Storage to mount the card. Then format it like you would do with a usb stick.
me too
I get the same error.
I have haretinstall and androidinstall.tgz in the /andboot folder.
I renamed default.txt to default.txt.no
I renamed default-kaiser.txt to default.txt
I edited default.txt to point to zImage-eclair
I tried with the regular zImage
I wait till it ask for dpad or vol up button then I press and hold dpad. It never recognizes? Or thats my guess from what has been said here.
right clicking on the drive from within windows using a card reader it says fat32.
When I press dpad it prints a ^@ to the screen, ironically it does the same key for ok. I don't see how I can hold down the vol up/down key cause its a jog wheel? Should I try dpad down?
Volume Up Is the RIght SOftKey. FOr some build only that work.
@zenity: i manage to format my miniSD to fat32. it was fat before. but the problem is still there..does anyone else know how to deal with this?
as tyler51773 already mentioned..i fi start the "haret" which is stored in "andboot" folder it request to hold down the vol button. although i pressed the vol. button,,,it still doesn't work. getting the same error message like tyler51773
seems like i'm totally lost. someone please help!!!
can anyone write down a clean instruction how to install the kaiser on SD incl. the right link (instead of telling users to find out the right one) without wiping out the windows mobile. this would be more helpful to us.
i'm sure there are other users who might be interested in this too.
thankx
When you run Haret and see scrolling text, immediately hold down the d-pad or vol button. Don't wait for it to ask.
hi all,
i have the same problem. the instructions seems to be bad. i cant run it and tried many things. in install-instructions says "androidinstall.tar" but download is androidinstall.tgz.
i don't know if its a big mistake, but someone should make a new "correct" instruction with correct files. maybe it then will be worked.
i also stuck on "can't found system.img"
greetz an sorry for my english
@dukennukemx: i did what you said. no improvement.
@lenzen24: i'm 100% with you!
i tried again,
but also failed on find system.img on sd-card
hope someone has a solution, becaused i woudn't flash a image over my wm6.5.
greetz lenzen
progress
The right soft key button worked, (i.e. the one right above the mail, to the left of the red phone to the right of the dpad just to be perfectly clear for anyone else).
I got the menu, and then it said unbalanced irq 102, unbalanced irq 86?, unbalanced irq 87? it froze then rebooted.
Second try, I hold down the right softkey after i see the penguin. I get the menu with the ok warning. I try all the buttons the warning stays up. I open up the keyboard. I press enter I now am in the menu.
The install option is missing? I have 1. fix permisions. (vs it saying install?) The dpad doesn't seem to work. I have 7 options. The last option is quit. The 6th one is recovery. 5 is wipe. As I'm staring at errors and not the menu I forget which the rest are. I remember seeing a backup/restore. Then their is wipe. Their was also the wipe cache options.
When I try to navigate the menu its a no go. The only real options I have is fix permissions. That leads to errors due to a missing system.img that hasn't been made yet? And then their is quit. I get to quit using the left opt key, and I can get to fix perms using the right opt key. If i open up the keyboard and try every key the only key the menu responds to is enter. I also tried w/ fn lock, but not shift, no responce to the arrow keys was a bummer. When I accessed a shell I can atleast confirm that qwerty mapping was right, but didn't hang out long enough to see the rest of the keymap.
Should I try zimage-eclair? I will of course do that at some compulsive moment, but hey, maybe I wont, or maybe I will and say I haven't yet - maybe I already have {knowingly or not}.. do I need some options in my default.txt? Should I try a different androidinstall? this is polymod-2.1g
This is actually a Tilt vs a Kaiser.
Thanks for the speedy replies and help!
Tyler
Problems with the install option not appearing are usually caused by not formatting the sd as FAT32, or a wrongly set up sd card, for haret installs, everything goes in andboot folder, for nand, androidinstal.tar, (or tgz), in andboot folder, kaisimg.nbh in root, the install instructions are clear enough, they are just not as easy to follow for inexperienced users, and tilt and kaiser are the same thing, if you look under the battery it will say 'kaisxxx'.
zenity
Your last post you can tell someone got under your skin...
I'm a fairly experienced user. I have had troubles installing android since the nand came along.
I feel that if I were willing to nuke my winmo it would be installed. my primary objective with this phone is voip. I'm hoping sipdroid gets fixed or the reports of sipagent working better than sipdroid are true. I'd like to investigate that. I'm poor and with winmo I pretty much make free calls. Albeit I have reliability issues, and I have lots of things i should script to make things work which is all the more motivation to move over. Especially with winmo7 stripping voip out completely [rumor mill]. Anyhow, I am not willing to nuke my winmo. It's quite cryptic to call the volume key, the volume key, when on the kaiser its the right opt key. Perhaps the problem is that I am running a tilt vs a kaiser, another cryptic difference? good thing we don't have a lot of sidekicks running around either. Anyhow. My card is formatted right. I even tried another almost virgin 2gb card, never been formatted but did have a raw filesystem that was only used on sundays while driving to church, it was freshly formatted with fat32 and still it was a no go.
I also just tried myns build. I get an install option, when I press enter it warns me that it is about to delete my all my stuff. So I would say no, but after feeling wrath I tried to say yes, but of course I can't navigate nothing I push will let me choose yes. So I safely run with no.
If I did have a dpad where it says backup data could I backup my winmo? That makes me feel good I've always wanted that. That feature alone would make my day as it would let me finally upgrade my sacred voip setup w/o fear of having to find all those little f!&@&# registry entries again.
Enter does a carriage return in shell? New line in any event..
Dpad/Ok on the front both print a ^@, so does the side ok button, and so does the keyb ok button. {so does; Winkey, MailKey, GreenPhone{send}}
Dpad/Keyb/Jog Up does a ^[[A
Dpad/Keyb/Jog Down does a ^[[B
Dpad/Keyb Left does a ^[[D
Dpad/Keyb Right does a ^[[C
Left Opt: ^[[26~
Right Opt: [BLANK]
e does ^[[1~
red phone{end} ^[[4~
PwrOff ^[[4~
Admittingly this is using myn's androidinstall.tar as i just got done trying that, not sure if the keymap would vary at all (I highly doubt that). Anyhow I also did see the sdcard mounted. I cd'ed into it and did an ls. Everything showed up. It was mounted rw.
Let me know if I can do anything else to speed along the development.
Hate to ask a dumb question? But why not continue to distribute the sqsh builds if they're so much easier to test out for winmo users? Isn't that what the installer is trying to do is process the androidinstall.tar file into either one of three options one of which is cacheable - the sqsh files?
But still, I'd love to hear I now have a back up option..
Zenity thank you for your hard work and even diligent support! I totally get the stress that comes with messing with software for long periods of time. If it helps we can sacrifice a user to the /dev/null ? Hope you're feeling better.
tyler51773 said:
Your last post you can tell someone got under your skin...
Zenity thank you for your hard work and even diligent support! I totally get the stress that comes with messing with software for long periods of time. If it helps we can sacrifice a user to the /dev/null ? Hope you're feeling better.
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Lol, sorry if it came over like that, I was typing it at a cafe on my kaiser, so I didn't spend as much time as I usually try to on a post, I usually try to structure them as carefully as possible to avoid misunderstandings
To be more accurate, I feel that the present sets of install instructions do assume a lot more knowledge than a lot of those new to Android actually have, this is not a disrespectful statement, simply that most builds have grown and changed so much, and the users who have been using them have also grown in specific knowledge of the install process, this, naturally, has led to some instructions assuming that those users all know the basics, which of course would be true if there were no new users.
It is difficult to produce a generic set of install instructions, since there are still a number of ways to get android onto our devices, and some builds are designed for other hardware originally, myn's for Vogue for example, so the install instructions tend to be more focused on those devices.
As far as the actual installer is concerned, the only time you will wipe winmo is if you have already flashed to nand, running via haret will not wipe winmo, the warning about wiping the system, or data, applies only to the Android build you are installing.
The present installer will process the androidinstall.tar or .tgz and install either to nand, if that is available, EXT2 partition, again, if available, or FAT32 partition, most commonly known as SD card or Haret install, the actual installation will then unpack the tar file to the proper destination, and on haret will produce a system and data img file, I'm unsure if it produces a sqsh file, since it's been a long while since I ran from anything but nand, but I do understand the confusion the install produces for those wishing to stay with winmo, and would prefer that it was clearer, but as with most of android development, once it works, development ceases until it breaks
Rest assured, unless you flash to nand, your winmo should be completely safe, I have not yet seen anyone wipe winmo using the SD/Haret method, not in all the time that we have been running Android on our kaisers.
I'm confused now however, I was always under the impression that the Tilt was merely another kaiser model, and unless you have forgotten to edit the default.txt file to reflect your hardware, the keypad/dpad should function properly, which as far as the escape sequences you have posted, would seem to be the case, ( dpad centre should give ^@ in console etc), so navigating the installer should be as easy as pressing the left, right up or down keys, followed by centre to choose options.
What I am now tempted to do is reflash my secondary Kaiser to winmo stock, and try a few haret installs just to check out things, since most of the above is mainly from memory, although a lot of the Nand install procedure is similar, may not be identical.
Sacrifices will not be necessary, however offerings may be made of caffeine, and/or chocolate, this may help me continue to function in my role as helpful user, and reduce my occasional visits to the mild irony I call my sense of humour
cool
I feel you about short emails making one sound bad! I made that mistake a few times. I actually hate email. I wrote this very funny email to my advisor, he liked it, and forwarded to his boss - just communicating, not to share a laugh or to complain, but to answer a question he did not know; atleast I was told that as I was then later forced to ask him 'did I make you mad?'. Anyhow I got chewed out for professionalism by the department chair which is not the way to a elect a major. Funny enough, I had decided writing funny was the way to go after i had peeved someone off for writing short almost angry sounding emails. In short I hate email/communicating via text.
I was thinking about the whole solution thing. If i need to do a key remap maybe we could just write up a shell script and I could execute it from /sdcard and then re-execute the installer ? unknown.sh??
Also, if you produce some img files what's to stop you from sharing those? I'd totally be willing to try it, maybe it'll work, maybe it'll break wifi calibration? who knows?
Bug found:
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/issues/detail?id=124#makechanges
set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"
just tried to change board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 with no results
Just my .02c
This method will work in windows for:
SD Cards in memory card readers/laptops
Phone set in memory card mode
HISTORY
Ok i ran into a wall with this one because of three reasons:
1. Laptops SD reader requires drivers to work, ok in windows useless in linux without the driver, so gpart and hirens boot cd out the window there.
2. My kaiser has a 6.1 rom on it and as far as i can remember it doesnt have a work as a memory stick option that appears on later roms like my touch pro had.
3. the touch pro has a broken digitiser and wont register my finger, so i can get the dam thing into usb memory stick mode.
So skip ahead if you dont want the long story of how i got it to work and made it a little easier for other.
Ok first job created a virtual pc with blank 8gb virtual disk and created the file system 1 x fat32 and 2 x ext2 partitions using hirens bootcd. Next i cloned the disk to a ghost32 compressed image file, as its only the file table and no files its really small (36K). So i rar'ed it up and uploaded so other people can use it as well. (5K)
HOW TO DO IT
Download my blank ghost image from :
Then you need ghost32.exe this can be extracted or ran from hirens bootcd and found as part of a Trialware download at Symantecs site: https://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/offer?a_id=32763 (you will need to create a login to download)
From there just run ghost32.exe and have your sd card ready and connected to the machine, be it in reader or a phone set in memory card mode. Select Disk from Image and select the image file on your hard disk. Then select the SD card and adjust the volume sizes as your require, it will complain about locking the drive and took an age on mine (2 mins), but eventually it was done from there just follow your droid guides for installing.
I know this doesnt help the vast amount of people, but if your stuck like i was and could get access to the card under windows and nothing else it works a treat. If however you can access it under dos etc, you may also want to use this way as its much faster than having to burn an ISO and reboot your entire PC just for partition an SD Card.
Hope this helps someone out.
PASSWORD: Android
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D64ZX4ZH - 5K
Nice solution, I can see this coming in handy for many who may be in a similar situation.
plazma247 said:
HOW TO DO IT
Download my blank ghost image from :
http://rapidshare.com/files/404732241/Android-SD-Image.rar - 5K
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Since it's only 5k, do you mind posting it here? The link has reached limit, 10 downloads.
Re-mirrored and added to the main post, lol ur lucky it was deleted from the main machine, tho the laptop still had the ghost image
Nice, but can you make one for 4gb sd card
Thanks.
plazma247 said:
Re-mirrored and added to the main post, lol ur lucky it was deleted from the main machine, tho the laptop still had the ghost image
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Thank you! I'll try it out ..
Dude it will suit any size memory stick you can adjust the partition sizes as it writes them
plazma247 said:
Dude it will suit any size memory stick you can adjust the partition sizes as it writes them
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gotcha *thumbs up*
Brilliant solution! One of those "Why did nobody think of this before" things.
So first of all i must say that im a completly noob at the android instalation on kaiser
I search for a noob tutorial but i coudnt fiind can someone post here a tutorial including files thanks
Here is the Guide in Sticky
How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide) by Dukenukemx
scroll down to Installing Applications Onto SD Card using Ext2
This should help. The guide help me greatly, very easy to follow.
Hope this helps.
Its not tricky, I mean even I can do it, come on
I did edit a wiki page on this, but appears to be down, so here goes, from memory.
Backup any data first, just in case, not taking any responsibility for loss of data.
Firstly ensure your SD card if formatting correctly (FAT32), use on Gparted (linux live CD) to do this, (for me, I created two ext 2 partitions as well as I thought this would work best, works for me).
You then need the HaRET application to allow you to run Android. Google "haret.exe"
Extract the files this should create the right directory.
You then need to choose a build, this is personal choice, but I'll post the one I am testing right now. milanche's CyanogenMod 6 Kaiser
Put the installandroid.tar into the folder you created above.
Move to your SD card.
Find and run HeRET.
When screen shows text, tap and hold the center of the screen until you get a menu.
Choose install (ensure the options are set to SD).
Select Install
Once done, select Quit.
This then installs Android and can take a while, just leave it to get on with it.
You should then been booted into Android.
I might have forgotten something, as I am doing this from memory, but it should be fresh since I installed this last night.
Looks good to me, nice guide, don't think you missed anything
Thatnk you Zenity, but I know I couldn't have done this without your help in the begining when I first tried it. I know how it can seem all a bit over whelming.
I know a lot of people say 'search for it' but I did that just to see what I would find, and to be honest, I didn't get anything but that was of any use, so I can sympathis the search doesn't always get you the right results.
I could not remember the direcotry names when I wrote that at work and had to do it in a hurry as the entire office can see my magnified screen so it was a quick brain dump, not as nice as I would have liked to have written it given the time (which I did on the wiki but its down).
Anyway Keeps it fresh in my mind too.
I can only do this when I'm given the right files, I got confused myself when people started talking about different zImages. I tend to go for the builds where everything is bundled into one packing, as some can seem fragmented, ie Fresh Foryo, I don't doubt that it may be a good rom, but its deleivery is complicated (for me ).
Wish I had more time an experience to make my own build, I have done a bit of linix hacking in my time with shell scripts (getting wifi cardds working ona laptop etc), Its all interesting stuff.
thanks guys u helped me alot in the end i will instal android on an ext2 partition
Dear Leona,
The link seems no longer valid, can you tell where to find the latest HaRET application? Besides, how should I format my SD card? by special software? Thanks.
Dave
If you'd have problems with using Gparted Live CD like me... just because it does not mount SD card in adapter... here is what I did to partition the SDHC 4GB card...
I booted with HARET but did not select to install.. it gracefully fails to terminal
command: su
command: fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0
deleted all current patrition (d)
created new partitions whith calculated size (8192 for 256MB)
changed type of the first and biggest patririon to FAT32 (t => c)
written all the changes to the partition table (w)
Than you should take out the card before rebooting and format FAT32 partition in win to upload all te android boot files, rebot the phone and follow with instalation...
But I must say, now I am using Scooters Cyanogen in NAND and it it far far easier
After I choose run, then a list of Linus commands ran, then it said
:loseup:/dev/block/loops: No such file or directory
Failed
Failed to reach system.img on SD card
By the way, anywhere I can download a complete set of files for running? Thanks.
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813382&page=31
look for the 4th post...
or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855733
read a lot before attempting to do anything! use the search tool too, could be of some help.
For SD Partitioning, I remembered this Thread, which might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619290
Sounds like you are not holding the centre Dpad button (or pressing the centre of the screen) while haret is loading, yes this can be Hit and Miss it winds me up no end.
If you have access to a Linux machine (or boot a Live CD), as well as being useful for SD partitioning it also maybe used to try out Atools (you'll need to install python and python-tk (via the package manager)) as this will get you the right Kernels, images and configure your default.txt file for you, though I haven't managed to get the build script bit working yet, but that is down to my lack of understanding the instructions
Guide to run Windows 8 Pro from a External Disk using a VHD (Virtual Hard Disk)
I created this guide to have the option to install windows 8 pro in an external disk with the purpose to test it without touching my current disk and also to have the hability to boot from it directly when i connect the disk to my notebook, and when it was disconnected still using my notebook as if it were not installed. It is also useful when you haven't space on your disk and you can not replace it
I use a VHD because i think is the best way to test the new windows 8 using all the capacity the your PC, to difference where you are using a Virtual Machine where only use a part of the capacity of your pc.
Anyway exist many way to do this, this is only one that worked for my and i wanted to share with you.
Thing that need before begin:
you need a External Disk at least 40 GB
booteable pendrive with windows 8 Pro or Dvd
you need to create a VHD disk
Remember backup your information, this guide worked for me and others, that's not mean that works for everybody
Step to Make a USB stickI used "Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool" from Here, I don't explain this because is easy and only you need to follow the step that the app provide
Step to create a vhd disk
What is a VHD:
VHD (Virtual Hard Disk) is a file format which represents a virtual hard disk drive (HDD). It may contain what is found on a physical HDD, such as disk partitions and a file system, which in turn can contain files and folders. It is typically used as the hard disk of a virtual machine.
Open Computer Management, select Storage and select Disk Management.
Now you can see all the disk in your Computer.
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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The picture is only a reference, is not shown the real disk
Select the External Disk
In the right side, there is a option that say; "more action", click there and select "create a VHD".
You'll see a screen like this:
Choose where you want save the vhd disk and the name for the vhd disk. (i personally save it in my external disk)
Now you'll see this screen:
Close Computer Management and open it again to Initialize the Virtual Disk.
Right-click and you new unallocated space and select "new simple volume"
The wizard start, click next
Dont modified the size of the disk and next
Assing the letter and next
Format as ntfs and next
Click finish, now you create a vhd disk to install windows 8
Remember what name you used for the vhd disk and where you saved it.
Step to install windows 8 Pro using a VHD disk
Restart your computer with your new USB key plugged in and startup your BOOT MENU
Select your USB Unit to run Windows 8 Pro Installer.
Start the SETUP process and click in install now
Stop In the screen that show the hard drive and NOT SELECT THE DISK
Instead hit SHIFT-F10 to get to a console. We want to attach our VHD and install to THAT instead.
In the cmd screen type DISKPART, now attached the VHD with these commands:
Code:
DISKPART> select vdisk file=d:\VMs\Win8.vhd
DISKPART> attach vdisk
In my case D but you assign the letter where you have saved the vhd disk.
[B]Tip: Before you enter Diskpart, I recommend "CD x:" to find your actual Storage Device. (X - Multiple possible Drive letters, not the same as when you're in Windows).[/B]
Next, ALT-TAB back over to the list of disks and hit REFRESH, You'll see your VHD show up.
Select it and click on next, Note that installation will warn you that this VHD can't be booted to, go ahead and install to that empty VHD.
Here i let windows install for itself, and that it reboot a couple of time.
Now we come to this screen:
Proceed with installation, personally i used a windows account to get all the functions of windows 8 pro, later you can change to local account.
When you finish you will get into you new Windows 8 Pro booting from your vhd disk
Now when you reboot you will have the new windows 8 bootloader menu:
but here the Problem, remember that i using a external drive, and when i disconnected it windows does not boot anymore or having to do lots of commands to achieve a successful start, forcing you to connect the external disk to boot the computer, to avoid this:
Boot into Windows 7
Run msconfig
In the Boot tab you will see the following:
Code:
windows 8 Default OS
windows 7 Current OS
Select Windows 7 and press make default. Now you get this:
Code:
windows 8
windows 7 Current OS; Default OS
With this simply step we can use the windows 7 bootloader to Dualboot our pc and no longer requires us to have connected external disk when we only use windows 7.
Any questions you want to ask me I'm here to help you as much as I can. I would be appreciated any comment or suggestion about this guide or simply it like you, let me know about it and press the Thanks Button
I have some modifications for you...
1.) You do not need a 40GB Hard Drive (not sure why so many tutorials make this claim) as you could make a 5GB VHD and still run Windows 8 but will be limited on data to install/store (which any important data should be saved to SkyDrive (or your Cloud solution) or an external Partition (or use "Local Disk" aka your actual Windows X Edition).
2). Do not use a Dynamic Expanding VHD, always Fixed (just a personal success story for me)
** OPTIONAL: Save the VHD on the Hard Drive you're making the VHD from **
3). I would simply just rename (NO SPACES for 1st TIMERS) the new VHD once initialized as Windows will Format/Do its magic in the Install.
4). Depending on how many "Storage" devices you have will depend on the Drive letter, usually goes from C - I.
Tip: Before you enter Diskpart, I recommend "CD x:" to find your actual Storage Device. (X - Multiple possible Drive letters, not the same as when you're in Windows).
5). During the hard drive select option, you won't get a warning about the hard drive if you follow step #3.
6). No need for MSCONFIG as your new Windows 8 created a new MBR (Master Boot Record) on the actual hard drive, which you should warn people upfront. Therefore even if your other Hard Drive (assuming you're doing external) is disconnected and holds your VHD, since it already detected another Windows OS, it automatically adds it to the Boot Record as the MBR Shows that purdy Windows 8 Startup Drive/OS Selector.
Otherwise, good tutorial . As for the above, that is strictly from my own personal experience as a developer/IT Prof & blah blah, I have done this probably 30 times now just for Windows 8 as we have multiple Tablet/Slates & Laptop + Desktops that needed this done for our Tech Support, Dev's, and our EU/Product Testers.
Should also mention, if you mess up or don't like your new Windows 8? Simply delete the VHD (in other Windows) and go to MSCONFIG and remove the Windows 8 entry from the MBR/Startup.
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Thanks for your feedback mate , about it:
for the point 1: i suggest this space because it is the space the microsoft suggest always when install windows and how this guide is for everybody i don´t wanted change it, i know that can be used a lower space.
for the point 4: i forgot to mention it, i have already changed it into the post
for the point 6: i add the part about msconfig and this is my personal experience i don´t know if is good or bad when i leave the windows 8 boot and i disconnected the external disk, the current operating system does not boot (windows 7), i get always a windows error: "windows can not initialize the component winload.exe" and i tried many config when i have installed it but again it is just a way to do it. Anyway mate, i really appreciate your answer :good:
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can it be installed in simple partition of the external drive not virtual one.
I have two partitions on the external drive can i simply install it one of them.?
addy89 said:
can it be installed in simple partition of the external drive not virtual one.
I have two partitions on the external drive can i simply install it one of them.?
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Personally i have some trouble when i tried in that way.... You can try but always make backup of your files
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I have done according to the guide but the problem is it cannot locate boot device(ext hdd).
and another thing i have a hp netbook mini 1001tu.its hard disk crashed.and not getting new spare.
i so i wanted to know that if i create a windows 8 external and put it in use with the mini.so that it can be used.:cyclops:
addy89 said:
I have done according to the guide but the problem is it cannot locate boot device(ext hdd).
and another thing i have a hp netbook mini 1001tu.its hard disk crashed.and not getting new spare.
i so i wanted to know that if i create a windows 8 external and put it in use with the mini.so that it can be used.:cyclops:
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My question is...does this method erase space from the external HDD permanently? Or once I don't want to boot can I delete the vhd file and get back all the space?
tpma4life said:
My question is...does this method erase space from the external HDD permanently? Or once I don't want to boot can I delete the vhd file and get back all the space?
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If u deleted the vhd u get the space again, but do it through disk management
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Very nice
Would this allow me to boot into windows 8 pro on a windows 8 rt surface device?
mikexmayhem said:
Would this allow me to boot into windows 8 pro on a windows 8 rt surface device?
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I dont test it. I only test it in notebook and desktop pc with windows 7.
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Would this allow me to boot into windows 8 pro on a windows 8 rt surface device?
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No. RT uses ARM, Pro uses x86.
Too difficult this method... Check my old how-to :highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597261
PYCON said:
Too difficult this method... Check my old how-to :highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597261
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I would not say too difficult, is only other method, to help people
Easy! not diffcult at all
PYCON said:
Too difficult this method... Check my old how-to :highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597261
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I just installed Windows 8 on a VHD it was not a difficult procedure and everithing is working fine.
The advantage of this method is that a backup of Windows is very simple now: just drag the .vhd file to another disk
One remark: When my BIOS is setting to startup from USB it will not start the bootloader...
Thanks DeltaSync!
For those who are able to Windows To Go does this. Requires Enterprise though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_To_Go
Tréo500 said:
I just installed Windows 8 on a VHD it was not a difficult procedure and everithing is working fine.
The advantage of this method is that a backup of Windows is very simple now: just drag the .vhd file to another disk
One remark: When my BIOS is setting to startup from USB it will not start the bootloader...
Thanks DeltaSync!
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Thanks for your words mate, glad all working fine for u
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Thanks this is exactly what i'm looking for!
I'll try it soon.
I’ll try to keep this as short as possible. This instruction will be for Window OS, via command prompt.
This is for those of you who are just having whatever kind of issues with your Micro SD cards. Phone won’t detect it, it’s not showing the correct storage size by some huuuge amount (like a 64 GB card is only showing 27 or something….), etc etc… it won’t mount, anything. Also, it is important to understand a few basic things…
If you have a 64 GB card, it’s default file system should be exFAT. If you tried to format it with FAT32, that is likely the issue you are having with it not reading, or showing incorrect database size. If that is the case, you need to do a full format, and repair it per these instruction.
ANYWAYS... here. we. go.
1.Pop the micro SD card into some type of card adapter for either your USB, or you SD slot on your PC. A message window will pop up asking you what you want to do, etc etc… if you don’t want to pull anything off the card for backup purposes, then just close it.
2.Open a folder somewhere (like on your desktop for example). After you do this, you will see on the left side, a list under “computer” there will be “C:\” some others, etc etc… your SD card you popped in should be there as well. For this example, let’s say windows has called it “F:\”
3. Right click on F:\ … select “Format…”
4. Now it will give you some options here. It will tell you the file system type that the card is currently formatted to. Make sure “quick format” option is checked, and go ahead and format it.
5.After it is done, safely unmout the device by clicking the little USB icon (with the green check mark) on the bottom right of your screen (on your tool bar) and select the option to eject that particular storage device. Pop it back in your phone. If this solved your issue, stop here. If you are still having problems, continue reading.
6.Take the card out, and follow steps 1, 2, and 3 again.
7.This time will be a little different, and will take MUCH longer (depending on the size of your card). After you select format to bring up the format tool window. This time you are going to UNCHECK “quick format”. All cards that are 64 GB should be formatted to exFAT. 32 GB and below should be FAT32 or whatever the default was for your card. I am pretty sure the note II is supporting exFAT file systems native, now. So you should be good there.
8. Now after you have unchecked “quick format”, go ahead and proceed with the formatting. Leave everything else default.
Now the waiting game… this can take up to two hours… So find something to do, lol.
9.After it is done, follow step 5 of this procedure. Pop SD back into your phone. If this didn’t fix your issue, proceed to next step, if it did, stop reading.
10.For this next part, it will require command prompt work, and please pay close attention.
11.Go to your desktop, and on your desktop, create a file called “disk_repair.txt” this needs to be a text file. So when you right click on the desktop to create the file, select “new” and then select “text file”
12.Click your windows icon on the bottom left of your screen, and the “search programs and files” box, start to type “command prompt”… you will see it pop up at the top. When it does, RIGHT click on it, and select “run as administrator”… it might ask you for your windows password, it might not, I can’t remember, but self-explanatory what you should do if it does ask.
13. After you open command prompt, pop the micro SD card back into the computer. It might ask you to format it again, who knows, freaking windows ikr. If it does, just do the “quick format” option and it will go pretty quick and then you can continue with the next part.
14. So again, let’s assume the computer reads the storage device as F: and then let’s assume your windows user name is BATMAN (type whatever is relevant to you… if the storage device shows up as Z: or M: or WindowsSucks: then enter it accordingly into the command I am about to give you… but again… for argument’s sake… it is F: and you are “BATMAN”
15.So, how… do we killlllll…. Then batman???? Rofl jk…
16. type this command into your command prompt… exactly as it is, then hit enter.
Code:
chkdsk /F F: > "C:\Users\BATMAN\Desktop\disk_repair.txt"
17. After you do this, you will see an ouput. If everything is good, you will see something like this in the output:
Code:
The type of the file system is exFAT.
Volume Serial Number is 9CD4-E720
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
62364672 KB total disk space.
0 KB in 0 files.
128 KB in 1 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
256 KB in use by the system.
62364288 KB available on disk.
131072 bytes in each allocation unit.
487224 total allocation units on disk.
487221 allocation units available on disk.
18. If it is showing errors, or you are still having problems, go to your desktop, open up that little file you created, and your ouput will be written to it. Upload it here so we can look at it.
That should be thorough enough.
Can anybody verify that the stock kernel supports exFAT file systems? Or if any kernels do, which ones? That would be useful information to have in this thread. I just didn’t have time to go digging around for it. This took like 10 minutes to write up I was waiting for my food here at Togo’s. lol
Stock does and I believe persues kernel does as well. I haven't run a custom kernel in q while so I can't confirm that though
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i thought stock did as well, i just was not sure.