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It is not quite self-explaining how to install Android on our Windows Mobile devices. Therefore I took some time and wrote down all the steps for people who are new to "Android".
More testers -> more experience -> more knowledge -> faster/better development.
I hope this way the forum is kept clean(er) from all kinds of questioned that have already been answered many times.
ReadMe Includes:
- Partitioning
- Device preparations
- Boot loader
- Install steps
- Fixes
- Links
- more...
If you are a developer (you create your own package) feel free to use my ReadMe for your packages (update regularly though).
to download the ReadMe click the [Android Repository] button in my signature.
It goes to a rapidshare page with 3 files, and when I click on the filename Android_README.TXT
or start download, I get the error
The file could not be found. Please check the download link.
ok thanks. i fixed it (rs bug when renaming files ^^)
How would i partition a 1GB SD Card? ie what sizes etc are the last 3 same but the unallocated is just whats left over?
I want to use a spare card rather then the one that came with my HD.
ATHiEST said:
How would i partition a 1GB SD Card? ie what sizes etc are the last 3 same but the unallocated is just whats left over?
I want to use a spare card rather then the one that came with my HD.
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normally just calculate how i wrote in the readme:
whole space -768 (3* 256) and then the other 3 x 256
but in ur case i would make the swap smaller (i think its not even used at all) and the fat32 bigger; for instance:
fat32 - 384 MB
ext2 - 256 MB
ext2 - 256 MB
swap - 128 MB (rest)
To be honest the bit I find most confusing is all the different versions!
i didnt create any partitions on my card, and android works as good as it does on any, mind you i have not updated the files fo0r a month so alot might have changed
ReadMe updated!
updated a bit...
Geeba said:
To be honest the bit I find most confusing is all the different versions!
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i agree...
i've been looking these posts here for a couple of days now and i still don't know how to do it....
especially the DualBoot thing...
is it possible to make a little bigger how-to manual?
or at least explain the versioning and the needed thing a little more?
the readme is about 50 times longer than anything else u will find about installing android anywhere else
the different versions are just like in windows mobile, theres not much to explain, its rather up to ur personal preference. doesnt take as long as flashing a wm rom, so its easy to try out more versions, especially with more sd cards.
dual boot is easy:
1. install the cab
2. open the dual boot program and make all your settings, for example: auto boot android (click on the checkbox/ratio under android logo), check auto boot checkbox and check fast boot (means 3 instead of 10 secs).
3. restart your device, DONT LAUNCH HARET because that will destroy all the dualboot settings. if you restart/shutdown the device normally, the settings will be stored and android will automatically booted at next startup (or whatever you set before)
if you have android autoboot and u want to boot wm, just QUICKLY press the wm LOGO when the dual boot screen appears.
i might include this in the readme soon, just dont have the time right now unfortunally
N!ghty said:
the readme is about 50 times longer than anything else u will find about installing android anywhere else
the different versions are just like in windows mobile, theres not much to explain, its rather up to ur personal preference. doesnt take as long as flashing a wm rom, so its easy to try out more versions, especially with more sd cards.
dual boot is easy:
1. install the cab
2. open the dual boot program and make all your settings, for example: auto boot android (click on the checkbox/ratio under android logo), check auto boot checkbox and check fast boot (means 3 instead of 10 secs).
3. restart your device, DONT LAUNCH HARET because that will destroy all the dualboot settings. if you restart/shutdown the device normally, the settings will be stored and android will automatically booted at next startup (or whatever you set before)
if you have android autoboot and u want to boot wm, just QUICKLY press the wm LOGO when the dual boot screen appears.
i might include this in the readme soon, just dont have the time right now unfortunally
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Thanks for the dualboot help... i'll try that...
the first problem I have encountered yesterday when trying to put Android was SD card formating...
i downloaded the program you said and followed the instructions oh how-to and was not able to do it under Windows 7 with my 16GB SD card... does it even work for Windows 7??? is there another program I can try to do it with???
I have also dualboot on my PC with the Kubuntu being the second OS, but I'm not using it as much as Windows 7... I can try with it if you think it will work.. but first I have to download the 15GB of data from my SD card to my PC, again
I would like to put the Espresso build cause I saw that it has everything working beside the GPRS and camera...
can you tell me what should I download for my Blackstone so it works properly???
thanks alot...
qtype said:
Thanks for the dualboot help... i'll try that...
the first problem I have encountered yesterday when trying to put Android was SD card formating...
i downloaded the program you said and followed the instructions oh how-to and was not able to do it under Windows 7 with my 16GB SD card... does it even work for Windows 7??? is there another program I can try to do it with???
I have also dualboot on my PC with the Kubuntu being the second OS, but I'm not using it as much as Windows 7... I can try with it if you think it will work.. but first I have to download the 15GB of data from my SD card to my PC, again
I would like to put the Espresso build cause I saw that it has everything working beside the GPRS and camera...
can you tell me what should I download for my Blackstone so it works properly???
thanks alot...
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like the readme says: partitioning is only needed for partitined builds, which means that android uses several partitions to store different kinds of data, for - hopefully - more speed. only glossy uses partitions, espresso doesnt.
for glossy, u can also use ubuntu (download parted magic or something similar) to create partitions.
for espresso, u just need to copy the stuff onto ur sdcard.
but thats all in the readme... i dont have time to explain in detail coz i need to study a whole ****in lot at the moment +.+
N!ghty said:
like the readme says: partitioning is only needed for partitined builds, which means that android uses several partitions to store different kinds of data, for - hopefully - more speed. only glossy uses partitions, espresso doesnt.
for glossy, u can also use ubuntu (download parted magic or something similar) to create partitions.
for espresso, u just need to copy the stuff onto ur sdcard.
but thats all in the readme... i dont have time to explain in detail coz i need to study a whole ****in lot at the moment +.+
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ok... thanks for the help... you helped me a lot just with the claryfication of the versions that need partitioning and the ones that don't...
i didn't know that...
good luck with studying!!!!
one more question...
I get the following message '' Failed to load file\Storage Card\zImage''
Can you help me with that????
qtype said:
one more question...
I get the following message '' Failed to load file\Storage Card\zImage''
Can you help me with that????
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meaning u dont have a zImage at all (ur probably using espresso?). so download one from here, copy files onto sd card and rename "zImage.xxxxxx" to "zImage" and ur ready to go.
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meaning u dont have a zImage at all (ur probably using espresso?). so download one from here, copy files onto sd card and rename "zImage.xxxxxx" to "zImage" and ur ready to go.
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yep, I downloaded it but I didn't know that i have to rename it...
It did the trick... booting up Android
thanks for all of your help...
updated the readme, not includes DualBoot howto and some other changes...
I managed to get the WiFi working but no matter which zImage I'm using I can't get the 3G to work...
I'm I doing something wrong or did I maybe forgot to do something????
qtype said:
I managed to get the WiFi working but no matter which zImage I'm using I can't get the 3G to work...
I'm I doing something wrong or did I maybe forgot to do something????
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well, some details about what version you are using would be helpful. however, this is not the right channel to ask this question. i think this question has already been asked several times in other threads. try search function or read the thread for ur version, its probably a version-issue or only for your country/provider
N!ghty said:
well, some details about what version you are using would be helpful. however, this is not the right channel to ask this question. i think this question has already been asked several times in other threads. try search function or read the thread for ur version, its probably a version-issue or only for your country/provider
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sorry about that...I realized it later that I should ask in another thread that question...
I managed to figure it out... I just needed to manually configure my APN settings...
hi there
i really need your help. i'm trying to install android on my HTC TyTnII. But i'm having problems to install.
can you please help me to get Android run on my Kaiser?
Right now i'm running the windows mobile 6.1. I want to install Android as a secondary OS.
i followed this installation guide.
androidonhtc.com/wiki/Installing_Android
1. I went to this link to download files.
androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_%28Kaiser%29
2. I downloaded the basefiles-20091116.zip
vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/basefiles-20091116.zip
3. Unzipped this zip file. Renamed the default-kaiser.txt to default.txt and moved the whole folder "android" to my storagecard.
4. then i downloaded the haretinstall.zip and unzipped that file as well. I moved the folder "andboot" to my storagecard.
sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-02-20/haretinstall.zip/download
5. then i downloaded the polymod_2.1g.zip and unzipped that file. I moved the file "androidinstall.tar" to my storagecard as well.
ponack.net/poly/2.1g/polymod_2.1g.zip
6. i clicked than on "haret.exe" and clicked on Run. the android started to load but then it stops. It gives me this error.
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....
Checking for partition...
s2fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-209)
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determing whether /dev/block/loop0 is mounted.
/dev/block/loop0 was not cleanly unmounted. check for ced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/block/loop0: 11/65536 files (0.0% non-contigous), 10335/262144 blocks
losetup: /dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory
Failed
Failed to find system.im on SD Card
/bib/sh: can't access tty1 job control turned off
/ #
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Can anyone help me out to solve the problem?
Do i need to do some partition? if yes...how can i do it? i'm using a windows xp OS.
This is how my SD-storagecard looks like:
/[android]
/[android]/[andboot]
/[android]/androidinstall.tar
Thank you for your support.
The androidinstall.tar should be in andboot folder, with all the haret files. andboot must be in root of SD card.
/
/andboot
If you were installing to nand it'd be :
/KAISimg.nbh
/andboot
You do not need to partition the SD card, just make sure it is formatted FAT32, not FAT
hi zenity
thanks for the response. I did what you said. Still having the same problem with the same error message.
how do i check format of my sd card? i've never formated it before. it's the original sd card.
Depends if you have an sd card reader and adaptor for micro-sd, if you do you can just format it in windows.
It's likely that it's formatted FAT, most new pre-formatted micro-sd are formatted FAT as standard, how are you transferring files to the sd at the moment?
i connected my htc with microsoft activesync then transfered the files via windows explorer.
i'm still struggeling to get android run on my device.
are those steps correct? or am i doing something totally wrong?
those installation guide are too complicated for me. the instructions are mostly for total replacement of the OS. But i would like to keep my windows mobile because of tomtom navigator. I want to make both OS run with Dual booting function.
if you are so kind...can you please guide me to make this run? I'll be thankful for that.
Best way to format an SD card is to use a card reader and micro-sd adaptor, I've never tried to format an SD with winmo or through activesync, so I'm not sure how easy that is.
I have transferred the files via activesync before, and that works fine, but your SD card must be FAT32, winmo probably does not know the difference, I'm sure there must be a way to format the card FAT32 in winmo, but I cannot think of one, I'll look into it though. I think total commander is able to show what type of format the sd card is, but don't know if it's able to format it.
All the Haret files plus the androidinstall.tar must be in the andboot folder on the SD card, you do not need any other files or folders on the card, but it should not matter if there are any.
You will need an SD card of at least 1GB, 2Gb is better.
I know the guide is meant for Nand install, but does show the installer screen part clearly, and the install procedure is the same for nand and haret, and shows the installer screen you should see when installing on FAT32, (haret).
Download Card Export or WM5Storage to mount the card. Then format it like you would do with a usb stick.
me too
I get the same error.
I have haretinstall and androidinstall.tgz in the /andboot folder.
I renamed default.txt to default.txt.no
I renamed default-kaiser.txt to default.txt
I edited default.txt to point to zImage-eclair
I tried with the regular zImage
I wait till it ask for dpad or vol up button then I press and hold dpad. It never recognizes? Or thats my guess from what has been said here.
right clicking on the drive from within windows using a card reader it says fat32.
When I press dpad it prints a ^@ to the screen, ironically it does the same key for ok. I don't see how I can hold down the vol up/down key cause its a jog wheel? Should I try dpad down?
Volume Up Is the RIght SOftKey. FOr some build only that work.
@zenity: i manage to format my miniSD to fat32. it was fat before. but the problem is still there..does anyone else know how to deal with this?
as tyler51773 already mentioned..i fi start the "haret" which is stored in "andboot" folder it request to hold down the vol button. although i pressed the vol. button,,,it still doesn't work. getting the same error message like tyler51773
seems like i'm totally lost. someone please help!!!
can anyone write down a clean instruction how to install the kaiser on SD incl. the right link (instead of telling users to find out the right one) without wiping out the windows mobile. this would be more helpful to us.
i'm sure there are other users who might be interested in this too.
thankx
When you run Haret and see scrolling text, immediately hold down the d-pad or vol button. Don't wait for it to ask.
hi all,
i have the same problem. the instructions seems to be bad. i cant run it and tried many things. in install-instructions says "androidinstall.tar" but download is androidinstall.tgz.
i don't know if its a big mistake, but someone should make a new "correct" instruction with correct files. maybe it then will be worked.
i also stuck on "can't found system.img"
greetz an sorry for my english
@dukennukemx: i did what you said. no improvement.
@lenzen24: i'm 100% with you!
i tried again,
but also failed on find system.img on sd-card
hope someone has a solution, becaused i woudn't flash a image over my wm6.5.
greetz lenzen
progress
The right soft key button worked, (i.e. the one right above the mail, to the left of the red phone to the right of the dpad just to be perfectly clear for anyone else).
I got the menu, and then it said unbalanced irq 102, unbalanced irq 86?, unbalanced irq 87? it froze then rebooted.
Second try, I hold down the right softkey after i see the penguin. I get the menu with the ok warning. I try all the buttons the warning stays up. I open up the keyboard. I press enter I now am in the menu.
The install option is missing? I have 1. fix permisions. (vs it saying install?) The dpad doesn't seem to work. I have 7 options. The last option is quit. The 6th one is recovery. 5 is wipe. As I'm staring at errors and not the menu I forget which the rest are. I remember seeing a backup/restore. Then their is wipe. Their was also the wipe cache options.
When I try to navigate the menu its a no go. The only real options I have is fix permissions. That leads to errors due to a missing system.img that hasn't been made yet? And then their is quit. I get to quit using the left opt key, and I can get to fix perms using the right opt key. If i open up the keyboard and try every key the only key the menu responds to is enter. I also tried w/ fn lock, but not shift, no responce to the arrow keys was a bummer. When I accessed a shell I can atleast confirm that qwerty mapping was right, but didn't hang out long enough to see the rest of the keymap.
Should I try zimage-eclair? I will of course do that at some compulsive moment, but hey, maybe I wont, or maybe I will and say I haven't yet - maybe I already have {knowingly or not}.. do I need some options in my default.txt? Should I try a different androidinstall? this is polymod-2.1g
This is actually a Tilt vs a Kaiser.
Thanks for the speedy replies and help!
Tyler
Problems with the install option not appearing are usually caused by not formatting the sd as FAT32, or a wrongly set up sd card, for haret installs, everything goes in andboot folder, for nand, androidinstal.tar, (or tgz), in andboot folder, kaisimg.nbh in root, the install instructions are clear enough, they are just not as easy to follow for inexperienced users, and tilt and kaiser are the same thing, if you look under the battery it will say 'kaisxxx'.
zenity
Your last post you can tell someone got under your skin...
I'm a fairly experienced user. I have had troubles installing android since the nand came along.
I feel that if I were willing to nuke my winmo it would be installed. my primary objective with this phone is voip. I'm hoping sipdroid gets fixed or the reports of sipagent working better than sipdroid are true. I'd like to investigate that. I'm poor and with winmo I pretty much make free calls. Albeit I have reliability issues, and I have lots of things i should script to make things work which is all the more motivation to move over. Especially with winmo7 stripping voip out completely [rumor mill]. Anyhow, I am not willing to nuke my winmo. It's quite cryptic to call the volume key, the volume key, when on the kaiser its the right opt key. Perhaps the problem is that I am running a tilt vs a kaiser, another cryptic difference? good thing we don't have a lot of sidekicks running around either. Anyhow. My card is formatted right. I even tried another almost virgin 2gb card, never been formatted but did have a raw filesystem that was only used on sundays while driving to church, it was freshly formatted with fat32 and still it was a no go.
I also just tried myns build. I get an install option, when I press enter it warns me that it is about to delete my all my stuff. So I would say no, but after feeling wrath I tried to say yes, but of course I can't navigate nothing I push will let me choose yes. So I safely run with no.
If I did have a dpad where it says backup data could I backup my winmo? That makes me feel good I've always wanted that. That feature alone would make my day as it would let me finally upgrade my sacred voip setup w/o fear of having to find all those little f!&@&# registry entries again.
Enter does a carriage return in shell? New line in any event..
Dpad/Ok on the front both print a ^@, so does the side ok button, and so does the keyb ok button. {so does; Winkey, MailKey, GreenPhone{send}}
Dpad/Keyb/Jog Up does a ^[[A
Dpad/Keyb/Jog Down does a ^[[B
Dpad/Keyb Left does a ^[[D
Dpad/Keyb Right does a ^[[C
Left Opt: ^[[26~
Right Opt: [BLANK]
e does ^[[1~
red phone{end} ^[[4~
PwrOff ^[[4~
Admittingly this is using myn's androidinstall.tar as i just got done trying that, not sure if the keymap would vary at all (I highly doubt that). Anyhow I also did see the sdcard mounted. I cd'ed into it and did an ls. Everything showed up. It was mounted rw.
Let me know if I can do anything else to speed along the development.
Hate to ask a dumb question? But why not continue to distribute the sqsh builds if they're so much easier to test out for winmo users? Isn't that what the installer is trying to do is process the androidinstall.tar file into either one of three options one of which is cacheable - the sqsh files?
But still, I'd love to hear I now have a back up option..
Zenity thank you for your hard work and even diligent support! I totally get the stress that comes with messing with software for long periods of time. If it helps we can sacrifice a user to the /dev/null ? Hope you're feeling better.
tyler51773 said:
Your last post you can tell someone got under your skin...
Zenity thank you for your hard work and even diligent support! I totally get the stress that comes with messing with software for long periods of time. If it helps we can sacrifice a user to the /dev/null ? Hope you're feeling better.
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Lol, sorry if it came over like that, I was typing it at a cafe on my kaiser, so I didn't spend as much time as I usually try to on a post, I usually try to structure them as carefully as possible to avoid misunderstandings
To be more accurate, I feel that the present sets of install instructions do assume a lot more knowledge than a lot of those new to Android actually have, this is not a disrespectful statement, simply that most builds have grown and changed so much, and the users who have been using them have also grown in specific knowledge of the install process, this, naturally, has led to some instructions assuming that those users all know the basics, which of course would be true if there were no new users.
It is difficult to produce a generic set of install instructions, since there are still a number of ways to get android onto our devices, and some builds are designed for other hardware originally, myn's for Vogue for example, so the install instructions tend to be more focused on those devices.
As far as the actual installer is concerned, the only time you will wipe winmo is if you have already flashed to nand, running via haret will not wipe winmo, the warning about wiping the system, or data, applies only to the Android build you are installing.
The present installer will process the androidinstall.tar or .tgz and install either to nand, if that is available, EXT2 partition, again, if available, or FAT32 partition, most commonly known as SD card or Haret install, the actual installation will then unpack the tar file to the proper destination, and on haret will produce a system and data img file, I'm unsure if it produces a sqsh file, since it's been a long while since I ran from anything but nand, but I do understand the confusion the install produces for those wishing to stay with winmo, and would prefer that it was clearer, but as with most of android development, once it works, development ceases until it breaks
Rest assured, unless you flash to nand, your winmo should be completely safe, I have not yet seen anyone wipe winmo using the SD/Haret method, not in all the time that we have been running Android on our kaisers.
I'm confused now however, I was always under the impression that the Tilt was merely another kaiser model, and unless you have forgotten to edit the default.txt file to reflect your hardware, the keypad/dpad should function properly, which as far as the escape sequences you have posted, would seem to be the case, ( dpad centre should give ^@ in console etc), so navigating the installer should be as easy as pressing the left, right up or down keys, followed by centre to choose options.
What I am now tempted to do is reflash my secondary Kaiser to winmo stock, and try a few haret installs just to check out things, since most of the above is mainly from memory, although a lot of the Nand install procedure is similar, may not be identical.
Sacrifices will not be necessary, however offerings may be made of caffeine, and/or chocolate, this may help me continue to function in my role as helpful user, and reduce my occasional visits to the mild irony I call my sense of humour
cool
I feel you about short emails making one sound bad! I made that mistake a few times. I actually hate email. I wrote this very funny email to my advisor, he liked it, and forwarded to his boss - just communicating, not to share a laugh or to complain, but to answer a question he did not know; atleast I was told that as I was then later forced to ask him 'did I make you mad?'. Anyhow I got chewed out for professionalism by the department chair which is not the way to a elect a major. Funny enough, I had decided writing funny was the way to go after i had peeved someone off for writing short almost angry sounding emails. In short I hate email/communicating via text.
I was thinking about the whole solution thing. If i need to do a key remap maybe we could just write up a shell script and I could execute it from /sdcard and then re-execute the installer ? unknown.sh??
Also, if you produce some img files what's to stop you from sharing those? I'd totally be willing to try it, maybe it'll work, maybe it'll break wifi calibration? who knows?
Bug found:
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/issues/detail?id=124#makechanges
set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"
just tried to change board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 with no results
Just my .02c
So first of all i must say that im a completly noob at the android instalation on kaiser
I search for a noob tutorial but i coudnt fiind can someone post here a tutorial including files thanks
Here is the Guide in Sticky
How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide) by Dukenukemx
scroll down to Installing Applications Onto SD Card using Ext2
This should help. The guide help me greatly, very easy to follow.
Hope this helps.
Its not tricky, I mean even I can do it, come on
I did edit a wiki page on this, but appears to be down, so here goes, from memory.
Backup any data first, just in case, not taking any responsibility for loss of data.
Firstly ensure your SD card if formatting correctly (FAT32), use on Gparted (linux live CD) to do this, (for me, I created two ext 2 partitions as well as I thought this would work best, works for me).
You then need the HaRET application to allow you to run Android. Google "haret.exe"
Extract the files this should create the right directory.
You then need to choose a build, this is personal choice, but I'll post the one I am testing right now. milanche's CyanogenMod 6 Kaiser
Put the installandroid.tar into the folder you created above.
Move to your SD card.
Find and run HeRET.
When screen shows text, tap and hold the center of the screen until you get a menu.
Choose install (ensure the options are set to SD).
Select Install
Once done, select Quit.
This then installs Android and can take a while, just leave it to get on with it.
You should then been booted into Android.
I might have forgotten something, as I am doing this from memory, but it should be fresh since I installed this last night.
Looks good to me, nice guide, don't think you missed anything
Thatnk you Zenity, but I know I couldn't have done this without your help in the begining when I first tried it. I know how it can seem all a bit over whelming.
I know a lot of people say 'search for it' but I did that just to see what I would find, and to be honest, I didn't get anything but that was of any use, so I can sympathis the search doesn't always get you the right results.
I could not remember the direcotry names when I wrote that at work and had to do it in a hurry as the entire office can see my magnified screen so it was a quick brain dump, not as nice as I would have liked to have written it given the time (which I did on the wiki but its down).
Anyway Keeps it fresh in my mind too.
I can only do this when I'm given the right files, I got confused myself when people started talking about different zImages. I tend to go for the builds where everything is bundled into one packing, as some can seem fragmented, ie Fresh Foryo, I don't doubt that it may be a good rom, but its deleivery is complicated (for me ).
Wish I had more time an experience to make my own build, I have done a bit of linix hacking in my time with shell scripts (getting wifi cardds working ona laptop etc), Its all interesting stuff.
thanks guys u helped me alot in the end i will instal android on an ext2 partition
Dear Leona,
The link seems no longer valid, can you tell where to find the latest HaRET application? Besides, how should I format my SD card? by special software? Thanks.
Dave
If you'd have problems with using Gparted Live CD like me... just because it does not mount SD card in adapter... here is what I did to partition the SDHC 4GB card...
I booted with HARET but did not select to install.. it gracefully fails to terminal
command: su
command: fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0
deleted all current patrition (d)
created new partitions whith calculated size (8192 for 256MB)
changed type of the first and biggest patririon to FAT32 (t => c)
written all the changes to the partition table (w)
Than you should take out the card before rebooting and format FAT32 partition in win to upload all te android boot files, rebot the phone and follow with instalation...
But I must say, now I am using Scooters Cyanogen in NAND and it it far far easier
After I choose run, then a list of Linus commands ran, then it said
:loseup:/dev/block/loops: No such file or directory
Failed
Failed to reach system.img on SD card
By the way, anywhere I can download a complete set of files for running? Thanks.
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813382&page=31
look for the 4th post...
or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855733
read a lot before attempting to do anything! use the search tool too, could be of some help.
For SD Partitioning, I remembered this Thread, which might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619290
Sounds like you are not holding the centre Dpad button (or pressing the centre of the screen) while haret is loading, yes this can be Hit and Miss it winds me up no end.
If you have access to a Linux machine (or boot a Live CD), as well as being useful for SD partitioning it also maybe used to try out Atools (you'll need to install python and python-tk (via the package manager)) as this will get you the right Kernels, images and configure your default.txt file for you, though I haven't managed to get the build script bit working yet, but that is down to my lack of understanding the instructions
I started a thread elsewhere and have been advised to put it here for a speedy resolution...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9785290#post9785290
In essence, I have an HTC TP2 running WM 6.5 Pro supplied by Vodafone here in the UK. I have an 8Gb SD card (unknown manufacturer) formatted to FAT32. On the card I store all my WM apps, plus all my folders with files, docs, pictures, video, etc.
On the card I installed Ubuntu and XDAndroid via the 2.2 Froyo.112210 cab
The Ubuntu worked fine, The XDANDROID looked great and on the face of it worked fine too, until I tried to set the ringtone. I realised I was missing calls and notifications because it was on Silent, and I could not change it. I tried to open my music and videos, but the apps said i had no SD card. I checked memory in Settings and it stated that the SD card was mounted, but gave no size info and would not let me Unmount it. I then tried to search media on the card and had no joy. In essence it did not seem to recognise the card.
I then bought another SD card, this time a Kingston 16Gb already formatted to FAT32, added all the files and docs, it too would not work. I have since been round and round the loop of deleting both SD cards, reformatting to FAT32 using both my default Ubuntu app on my Laptop, gParted via my Laptop and the phone. None work.
I now am still on WM 6.5 because I can not use the phone.
I have searched Google and the Forum, and other than formatting to FAT32 I have seen nothing that can help, but that may just be my searching skills.
It has been suggested that some makes of card do not work also.
Other things that I have found a problem:
The keyboard does not light up when I use it, which is impossible poorly lit rooms, etc
Can't find a way of viewing folders, I'm sure there will be more once I get it going...
Any help, please!!!!!
Format with the HP tool. Full format.
Keyboard backlight doesn't work in Linux/Android yet. We're working on it...
Can't find a way of viewing folders...? Astro, OI File Manager...? There's a ton.
My experience is SD Card cannot be used if you installed xdaandroid with CAB version. I tried for the whole night, formatted my card with many different tools - without luck.
At last, I downloaded the zip one, and finally, it works!
Hope it also works with your
hadobac said:
My experience is SD Card cannot be used if you installed xdaandroid with CAB version. I tried for the whole night, formatted my card with many different tools - without luck.
At last, I downloaded the zip one, and finally, it works!
Hope it also works with your
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Thanks for the tip. I'll try that. It makes more sense. I can't believe taht formatting using different tools can work as a FAT 32 is a FAT 32.... if not then what is it.
Can you tell me. Did you download to laptop, extract and then just copy the files on to your TP2 SD card....?
jonners59 said:
Can you tell me. Did you download to laptop, extract and then just copy the files on to your TP2 SD card....?
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Either way, download extract & copy or just download & extract straight to your SD.
I don't think anyone should ever use the CAB install. The only benefit you get is a shortcut, which can easily be created manually.
The FIX
hadobac said:
My experience is SD Card cannot be used if you installed xdaandroid with CAB version. I tried for the whole night, formatted my card with many different tools - without luck.
At last, I downloaded the RAR one, and finally, it works!
Hope it also works with your
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BRILLIANT - WELL DONE... Yes, this is the answer. Not reformatting. God knows how many times I tried and the number of different tools and processes of formatting. None worked.
This worked first go.
I am now just going through the device to fine tune and no doubt will find any glitches or queries.
So, short cut for all readers.
DO NOT USE THE CAB, Use the compresses RAR file.
http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.112210.rar
Save on the desktop of your Laptop/PC.
Connect device to the Laptop/PC
Extract to the root of the SD Card
Take out the Programs folder from the extracted folder on the SD Card and put in the Root of the SD Card - this may clash with the WM Programs folder, but I use Ubuntu so it allowed me to merge the two nicely.
Then off you go, boot up....
jonners59
I'm happy to hear that you had your problem solved.
AFAIK this bug just happenned with the latest version - the Froyo FRX03. I'm using Ubuntu as well, and the after I bought my new Memory stick, I formatted it with the Ubuntu Disk Utility, and the Cab - the Eclair - worked very well...
But like arrrghhh have said, yea people shouldn't use the CAB install. You gotta spend time installing it (and it usually takes quite long), and just to have its shortcut...
hadobac said:
jonners59
I'm happy to hear that you had your problem solved.
AFAIK this bug just happenned with the latest version - the Froyo FRX03. I'm using Ubuntu as well, and the after I bought my new Memory stick, I formatted it with the Ubuntu Disk Utility, and the Cab - the Eclair - worked very well...
But like arrrghhh have said, yea people shouldn't use the CAB install. You gotta spend time installing it (and it usually takes quite long), and just to have its shortcut...
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Maybe, all I know is that I had trouble getting any releases to work, and spent ages searching for fixes, which is where I first encountered other's issues with the same problem. All suggested a reformat. And the only fix that worked was the zip Maybe if I had used the zip before I would not have had all this trouble.
Now that it works, I need to look at all the other little issues.
Light on all the time
fast use of the battery
Seems to lock up sometimes requiring soft restart
No Blue tooth
No camera
and I can't see my music or pictures, though i can see all those for the various apps!
jonners59 said:
Maybe, all I know is that I had trouble getting any releases to work, and spent ages searching for fixes, which is where I first encountered other's issues with the same problem. All suggested a reformat. And the only fix that worked was the zip Maybe if I had used the zip before I would not have had all this trouble.
Now that it works, I need to look at all the other little issues.
Light on all the time
fast use of the battery
Seems to lock up sometimes requiring soft restart
No Blue tooth
No camera
and I can't see my music or pictures, though i can see all those for the various apps!
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You really need to at least read the FAQ dude, c'mon these are BASIC questions/problems.
I did tell you to reformat, I didn't think the cab was the issue honestly - I don't ever use the cab, as I think it's quite unnecessary... But others use it just fine AFAIK.
this worked for me...thanks
i installed the cab first and i also had this same problem with the sd card. i tried the zip file and that didn't work either. Then i used the hp tool that is mentioned in post #2 to format the sd and then tried the zip file again and BINGO. So i think a combination of formatting the sd and using the zip file works best. thanks alot guys for all the help. it sucked not having any sound
madhopps said:
i installed the cab first and i also had this same problem with the sd card. i tried the zip file and that didn't work either. Then i used the hp tool that is mentioned in post #2 to format the sd and then tried the zip file again and BINGO. So i think a combination of formatting the sd and using the zip file works best. thanks alot guys for all the help. it sucked not having any sound
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Could be, but also suggested are gParted, which is a good format tool. The HP is for Windows machines. I use Ubuntu which is Linux, just like Android, so when I installed, it did so within WINE, which is Windows tool for running their apps on Linux. It's not perfect and in this case it could not find the USB ports. No worries though as I think the zip method was the ultimate solution for my senario
arrrghhh said:
You really need to at least read the FAQ dude, c'mon these are BASIC questions/problems.
I did tell you to reformat, I didn't think the cab was the issue honestly - I don't ever use the cab, as I think it's quite unnecessary... But others use it just fine AFAIK.
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A little unkind arrrrghhh... The issues I raised in this reply were immediately after having managed to get the device working. And yes, I know some are in FAQ, though no solutions to most and many are not.
The power issue and the no ringtones options are not. The power has meant that I can not use Android and have gone back to WM for now. I used 2 batteries yesterday and ran out of charged batteries by 6PM! It should last over 24hrs per battery.
jonners59 said:
A little unkind arrrrghhh... The issues I raised in this reply were immediately after having managed to get the device working. And yes, I know some are in FAQ, though no solutions to most and many are not.
The power issue and the no ringtones options are not. The power has meant that I can not use Android and have gone back to WM for now. I used 2 batteries yesterday and ran out of charged batteries by 6PM! It should last over 24hrs per battery.
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Well I'm glad you have such strong opinions about how this project should be. Keep making demands, it's very helpful...
Anyhoo, this project is for TESTING PURPOSES, it's not ready for prime-time yet. Have fun with it, but don't think it's meant to replace WinMo.
Also, all of your questions have been answered before - maybe they're not all in the FAQ, but most are. However, every single question you've asked has been asked before - use search!
arrrghhh said:
Well I'm glad you have such strong opinions about how this project should be. Keep making demands, it's very helpful...
Anyhoo, this project is for TESTING PURPOSES, it's not ready for prime-time yet. Have fun with it, but don't think it's meant to replace WinMo.
Also, all of your questions have been answered before - maybe they're not all in the FAQ, but most are. However, every single question you've asked has been asked before - use search!
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Oh, yes, sorry, I am a bit forceful.
Actually, the device in Android has completely died. I have a blank black screen. Sad moment. I like the look, the feel and the way this project works, but it has a long way to go before it is a serious contender, sadly.
UPDATE: I plugged it in to my Laptop to effectively start over, and suddenly the PIN window appeared... We are back on. The ways and wonders of SW.
sd card
my girlfriend and i both have the same phone. I have a PNY 16GB sd card in my phone and she has a SanDisk 8Gb. I dont have the problem with android not reading my sd card and i used the cab file, but android wont read her sd card. did everything the same on both phones, so i am kinda thinking it is the maker of the sd cards.
edlokien said:
my girlfriend and i both have the same phone. I have a PNY 16GB sd card in my phone and she has a SanDisk 8Gb. I dont have the problem with android not reading my sd card and i used the cab file, but android wont read her sd card. did everything the same on both phones, so i am kinda thinking it is the maker of the sd cards.
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I have heard this before, which is why I mention my card type in the thread
phone works fine, winmob works fine, if i use 4gb sdcard, android works, BUT
it android does not recognise sdcard(inside android),
if i use a 2gb sd card, inside android, the sd card is recognized.
When i use the 4gb is says sdcard not available,
format of both sd cards is the same, software is the same, android is the same.
for last: ANdroid is with both sd cards working, only inside android there is difference with both cards.
My experience and from what I have seen in my threads and searching is:
1. The SD card itself may make a difference. I have had and seen comments that some makes of card do not work or work as well as others.
2. The card should be formatted externally, i.e. gparted, HP's device or whatever to FAT32
3. The installation of Android should be done by downloading the zip to your PC/Laptop and then copying to the root of your SD card, then it tends to stand more chance of working.
I can second guess someone will contradict me, but I spent 4 months trying to get it working, including working with a developer... And following some advise this is what I found was the only way to make it work.
Give it a bash, but it is what ever works for you.
PS this is only a project so whilst the OS is absolutely fantastic it does have some things that do not work or work well. Good luck
In my another post I reported the SD card space will lost by unknown reason, some of guy in this forum has confirmed it.
And now some users have found one reason that may cause it.
You can do test yourselves to see is it happen to you.
1. Make sure your oneX SD free space is more than 5G, otherwise after test you may have problem.
2. Check your sd card free space and write it down.
3. Connect one X to your pc by usb disk mode. copy one file (any size of file) from pc to X. no need copy big file.
4. disconnect one x from pc. And check on phone to see current SD free space.
If you are lucky, the free space is go down just the same size of the file you copied to it.
If you are not you will see additional 1G space disappeared. Yes if it has problem you will looe 1G, it always 1G not other number.
Try yourself and give the feedback. It maybe just one reason cause space lost, but it is east to find now.
Sent from my HTC One X
I lost 4gb in "bad sectors", you can check it with windows chkdsk.
Formatting the sd card is the only way to get the bad sectors back. It's been described in other threads.
chkdsk /f /r to recover bad sectors wont work.
yes I have format SD yesterday and get all space back. But not sure will it happen again or not.
Sent from my HTC One X
For me there are 2GB missing.
Trying to format
mmx6688 said:
If you are lucky, the free space is go down just the same size of the file you copied to it.
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Interesting choice of words. I move a lot of music, pics, and docs between my PC and my phone and never noticed what you described. To test it, I just moved a PDF file from my PC to the phone via USB and storage decremented by the size of the file.
It's to the point now that everyone's loaded up their phones with a ton of different apps. I have 82 downloaded apps installed. As with every other Android phone, a specific app or combination of apps can cause strange behavior. So "luck" may not have anything to do with your storage issue. Your phone could have a defect in its NAND memory, but it could also be an app or utility you're using; especially if it's not optimized for ICS or the way HTC's segmented memory.
This is from Paul at MoDaCo...
"One of the downsides of Ice Cream Sandwich is that, with its one contiguous on-board memory, there is no option to connect this to your computer as good old ‘mass storage’. The One X gets around this by partition it’s memory in two blocks - the old style ‘/data’ partition which comes in at 2.11GB (where your apps and data go if you don’t ‘move to SD’) and the virtual / sdcard partition totaling 25.24GB, which can be accessed via mass storage! Personally, I can’t decide whether it’s better to have that one big space and be limited to MTP or to have this solution... but for people wanting to easily drop content on their device, mass storage is definitely a big plus."
Does it happen if you completely restore your device and try it without adding your own apps? If it doesn't, it's something you've done to the phone not vice versa.
Hm that's strange...
I have 3,14 GB in bad sectors. Is it not due to detaching the device before it's unmounted (ejected)?
No such problem.
Tried 2 times. Once with a 280k file and another time with 6M+ file.
Did you change the connection back to charge only before you pulled the USB cable?
Actually I have been moving files in and out of my HOX (with PC) all the time. My total still shows 25.24G for the phone storage.
In fact I did the other test you mentioned in another thread. Property showed a number that was larger that all the files selected (ctrl-A). That was contrary to what you found out.
pehkblui said:
No such problem.
Tried 2 times. Once with a 280k file and another time with 6M+ file.
Did you change the connection back to charge only before you pulled the USB cable?
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Have you copied a file to your phone before? What does checkdisk say when you attach your device?
It is indeed necessary to unmount the device before unplugging it from USB. Because if there's any writing to the device, it could result in data corruption.
I just pull out the phone from usb cable. How can I change to charging then pull out?
The issue I described not happen to me after I format the SD. It happen to other users I know.
Sent from my HTC One X
Although I'm in a similar situation to others in this thread I'm not sure it's caused in the same way, so a bit of clarification would be great.
First of all, my situation is as follows.
My mass storage currently has a hidden directory called 'System data' which is taking up a whopping 15gb of space, leaving me with very little space to use. You can see what is taking up the space on your phone with DiskUsage (sorry can't post links yet).
After doing a bit of searching around the issue there doesn't seem to be a specific cause but perhaps uploading files from your PC could have been the reason it happened to me, I probably uploaded about 6 or 7gb worth of videos and albums since I got my phone.
I found a few threads around this issue, I can't post links but if you search for 'system data size android' you should find some similar topics.
The two solutions which seem to be viable are to either factory reset your phone or to root your phone then grant an explorer application superuser rights to delete the 'System data'.
However I'm not sure these solutions will actually fix the original issue as oppose to just stopping it from happening for the time being.
Can someone else check DiskUsage and see if they have an overly large 'Systems data' folder then report back please.
mmx6688 said:
I just pull out the phone from usb cable. How can I change to charging then pull out?
The issue I described not happen to me after I format the SD. It happen to other users I know.
Sent from my HTC One X
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You shouldn't just pull out the phone from USB cable, because there is a chance data is being written to the device (umount in linux, eject mass storage device in windows), as is the case with flash memory. You also shouldn't change to charging, because that can also corrupt the data, as it is the same thing as pulling the USB cable out.
Nevertheless, this probably doesn't explain the bad blocks problem. I don't remember pulling out my phone before ejecting it, but still I have 3GB of bad blocks...
Can anyone else run the checkdisk program and check the amount of bad blocks? Just connect the phone as USB storage device; start -> cmd and type 'chkdsk X:' (where X is the drive letter where the phone is mounted to)
seedoubleu said:
Can someone else check DiskUsage and see if they have an overly large 'Systems data' folder then report back please.
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Mine's a little less than a GB. I've used 11.62GB of storage and have 14.23GB free. The question is what app or process is writing files to your Systems data folder?
Birdskenburg said:
You also shouldn't change to charging, because that can also corrupt the data, as it is the same thing as pulling the USB cable out.
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This I am not too sure. The phone should be smart enough to know it can't just change to charge only if there is data transfer.
In fact, when you change to charge only you will see a message on the phone screen saying preparing phone storage.
I used chkdsk, there is 1G (1048576) in bad sector. I have since tried copying files into the phone a few times, and the bad sector number never changes (after I have disconnected and reconnected the usb).
Here we go,
The type of the file system is FAT32.
Volume HTC STORAGE created 01/01/2011 21:00
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
26,470,048 KB total disk space.
288 KB in 8 hidden files.
28,064 KB in 867 folders.
11,210,816 KB in 6,979 files.
14,680,064 KB in bad sectors.
550,784 KB are available.
32,768 bytes in each allocation unit.
827,189 total allocation units on disk.
17,212 allocation units available on disk.
So this could be due to disconnecting without doing it safely as I charge my phone via my PC at work each day...
I don't really feel comfortable rooting my phone now due to that customer service chat thread about warranties so I guess a factory reset and then making sure I safely remove the phone each time from the PC is my only option.
One interesting thing about the chkdsk is that it says:
Volume HTC STORAGE created 16/11/2061 6.05 PM
I have a sdcard prepared some 50 years in the future.
seedoubleu said:
Although I'm in a similar situation to others in this thread I'm not sure it's caused in the same way, so a bit of clarification would be great.
First of all, my situation is as follows.
My mass storage currently has a hidden directory called 'System data' which is taking up a whopping 15gb of space, leaving me with very little space to use. You can see what is taking up the space on your phone with DiskUsage (sorry can't post links yet).
After doing a bit of searching around the issue there doesn't seem to be a specific cause but perhaps uploading files from your PC could have been the reason it happened to me, I probably uploaded about 6 or 7gb worth of videos and albums since I got my phone.
I found a few threads around this issue, I can't post links but if you search for 'system data size android' you should find some similar topics.
The two solutions which seem to be viable are to either factory reset your phone or to root your phone then grant an explorer application superuser rights to delete the 'System data'.
However I'm not sure these solutions will actually fix the original issue as oppose to just stopping it from happening for the time being.
Can someone else check DiskUsage and see if they have an overly large 'Systems data' folder then report back please.
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Wait.. did you find the files called "system data"?
I ahve this issue too. around 12GB
Birdskenburg said:
I have 3GB of bad blocks...
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I have 3,145,728KB being reported as bad sectors. I'm guessing since your results are so similar to mine they aren't really bad sectors. More than likely they're either protected files, protected disk space, or something in HTC's unique configuration of storage (see above) that's not being read correctly by CHKDSK. If we all get the same result it's probably not an issue with the device itself.
P.S. - If someone does a hard reset (w/o loading any apps) and CHKDSK still reports 3ishGB in bad sectors that would confirm it's an issue with CHKDSK reading the phone's storage.
seedoubleu said:
Here we go,
The type of the file system is FAT32.
Volume HTC STORAGE created 01/01/2011 21:00
Volume Serial Number is 7CE0-1CDB
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
26,470,048 KB total disk space.
288 KB in 8 hidden files.
28,064 KB in 867 folders.
11,210,816 KB in 6,979 files.
14,680,064 KB in bad sectors.
550,784 KB are available.
32,768 bytes in each allocation unit.
827,189 total allocation units on disk.
17,212 allocation units available on disk.
So this could be due to disconnecting without doing it safely as I charge my phone via my PC at work each day...
I don't really feel comfortable rooting my phone now due to that customer service chat thread about warranties so I guess a factory reset and then making sure I safely remove the phone each time from the PC is my only option.
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That's a lot!
Well, I don't think this problem has anything to do with unsafely disconnecting the device, this shouldn't give bad blocks; at the utmost corrupt files.
Then again, I don't know that much about the subject. I believe the memory controller keeps track of bad sectors on a lower level, and bad sectors are mostly caused by damage/faulty hardware. If we'd really have bad sectors, a high level format wouldn't solve the problem (which it did, appearantly). So I think this problem is software related, or related to the memory controller. But again, I know very little about this.
Birdskenburg said:
That's a lot!
Well, I don't think this problem has anything to do with unsafely disconnecting the device, this shouldn't give bad blocks; at the utmost corrupt files.
Then again, I don't know that much about the subject. I believe the memory controller keeps track of bad sectors on a lower level, and bad sectors are mostly caused by damage/faulty hardware. If we'd really have bad sectors, a high level format wouldn't solve the problem (which it did, appearantly). So I think this problem is software related, or related to the memory controller. But again, I know very little about this.
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I'm not really very clued up either, just learning as I'm going along.
It seems like too much of a coincidence that the size of the system data file on the storage card is pretty much exactly the same size as the amount of bad sectors shown from the chkdsk.
It seems there's a more overarching issue at hand here which is slowly affecting more of us.
BarryH_GEG - I think that's what we need to find out, what files are actually in that System data directory, if anyone has root access they may be able to dig deeper with an explorer app.
Supaiku - Yup, System data is directly below Storage Card but doesn't show up on any explorer apps, only when using DiskUsage.
BarryH_GEG said:
I have 3,145,728KB being reported as bad sectors. I'm guessing since your results are so similar to mine they aren't really bad sectors. More than likely they're either protected files, protected disk space, or something in HTC's unique configuration of storage (see above) that's not being read correctly by CHKDSK. If we all get the same result it's probably not an issue with the device itself.
P.S. - If someone does a hard reset (w/o loading any apps) and CHKDSK still reports 3ishGB in bad sectors that would confirm it's an issue with CHKDSK reading the phone's storage.
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Yeah I think you're right. Still, it's strange that seedoubleu is reporting to have more than 14GB of 'bad sectors', what would be hidden there?
I still think this has something to do with the device's memory controller, because the 3+ GB really isn't accessible.