Hello, when am on Voip or anything for that matter, but really Voip. Am usually on Lte, and then when I get to non-lte coverage it switches to regular 4g hspa. (Common sense)
But it never switches back to Lte while on the call. It wont switch back to Lte until call is over. Even tho am back in Lte coverage.
Is there a work around for this. Would like to be on Lte as much as possible. Thk u
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Hello, when am on Voip or anything for that matter, but really Voip. Am usually on Lte, and then when I get to non-lte coverage it switches to regular 4g hspa. (Common sense)
But it never switches back to Lte while on the call. It wont switch back to Lte until call is over. Even tho am back in Lte coverage.
Is there a work around for this. Would like to be on Lte as much as possible. Thk u
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LTE is just for Data, 4g,3g,h ect ect is for voice. Its bcuz voice doesnt need that much usage or amount of speed to call. Theirs time im calling and my phone goes to 2g.. look at it this way the lower the band the more battery you save while in a call.. Google have more info than i can ever give you..that just my 2ยข
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Hi Guys,
I have LTE coverage where I am, but phone keeps going to 4G.
Is there any way to force it so it stays on LTE?
I have tried the following app but no luck. Once I select the LTE Only mode it switches to WCDMA Preferred mode some how.
LTE OnOFF - HTC Thunderbolt, https://play.google.com/store/search?q=lte+on+off
Any way, any idea any one??
Thanks
If it keeps dropping back to 4G then the LTE service probably isn't strong enough where you are. You can't just force it on either. That's like forcing any service at all in the middle of the ocean.
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Previous poster is right.
But u can play around. Reboot to recovery, wipe cache, reboot. Flash different ROMs, usually one Stock based, another AOKP - I believe modems are vastly different there.
The only way to fix this is make a new APN there's a post on skyrocket fourms that shows you how
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I have done forcing on other devices such as Galaxy Nexus, currently using Sierra 754S that has feature where you can force it to stay on LTE, and it stays put.. Only problem it gets WICKED HOT if I pump a lot of data
Assuming you subscribed with your provider for LTE-service, then definitely it's because your LTE coverage is not great.
If you've never seen your phone connect to LTE before, I suggest you contact your provider and make sure you are on their LTE-network.
LTE-device doesn't automatically mean you're getting LTE service. I've seen people make that incorrect assumption.
Well, all you really need is LTE Sim card for AT&T, it works awesome ... as I said it works great with Sierra 754S air card.
So any device that has LTE capability it works perfect with that.
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If it keeps dropping back to 4G then the LTE service probably isn't strong enough where you are. You can't just force it on either. That's like forcing any service at all in the middle of the ocean.
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Assuming you subscribed with your provider for LTE-service, then definitely it's because your LTE coverage is not great.
If you've never seen your phone connect to LTE before, I suggest you contact your provider and make sure you are on their LTE-network.
LTE-device doesn't automatically mean you're getting LTE service. I've seen people make that incorrect assumption.
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No voice coverage on Lte so the phone still needs hspa to make and Recieve calls and text messages. Until all the voice over Lte and hand off standards are in place Lte is a data only feature.
On a data stick it makes sense to allow an Lte only mode but on a phone it would not be a good idea.
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So I was trying this for the first time. Was pretty excited since I have always been on Sprint.
Anyway I just tried it and the data connection is HORRIBLY slow (equal to 1X or worse on Sprint). Is this normal???? I wasn't at all expecting this slow at all. I have a decent signal and everything.
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So I was trying this for the first time. Was pretty excited since I have always been on Sprint.
Anyway I just tried it and the data connection is HORRIBLY slow (equal to 1X or worse on Sprint). Is this normal???? I wasn't at all expecting this slow at all. I have a decent signal and everything.
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It did not used to be that way. They just started throttling simultaneous voice and data inbthe last year or so.
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Yeah. Its no secret. I even asked them in the store and proved it and still couldn't get a justifiable answer. Check this out.
thesmartphonechamp.com/att-secretly-throttling-their-smartphone-customers-video/
The data connection is almost unusable most of the time while on voice. This was one of the more exciting features for me (coming from Sprint). I also noticed even if you are in an LTE area, the data connection seems to go to HSPA+ and you have the same problem.
I really can't find a lot of information about this around the Internet. I don't assume there is a workaround?
That's the way it's gonna be until someone figures out how to keep the LTE session enabled while on a voice call.
There were multiple threads in the past that explained that once you do data and voice at the sametime it's not that it throttles you down it drops down to 3G or H+ because once on the voice call it can't use LTE for data it has to use the 3G or H+ network. LTE is mainly only for data so once you place a voice call it switches and that's what it'll use for data. Not sure if I'm not explaining right but that's the gist of it. So, if your 3G or H+ network is pretty poor in your area it will be painfully slow. Plus the 3G and H+ networks are still over saturated with all the iPhone users that haven't upgraded to the iPhone 5.
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There were multiple threads in the past that explained that once you do data and voice at the sametime it's not that it throttles you down it drops down to 3G or H+ because once on the voice call it can't use LTE for data it has to use the 3G or H+ network. LTE is mainly only for data so once you place a voice call it switches and that's what it'll use for data. Not sure if I'm not explaining right but that's the gist of it. So, if your 3G or H+ network is pretty poor in your area it will be painfully slow. Plus the 3G and H+ networks are still over saturated with all the iPhone users that haven't upgraded to the iPhone 5.
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Strike - in short, I would LOVE it if I got H+ speeds. Unfortunately my speeds aren't even close to that.
If I stand in my driveway, I can get ~4Meg down with H+. If I get on a call and do it, my data goes down to 300k. Without even moving. Goes back up once on a call. There is something more to it than that.
I think my problem is upload while on the phone. I would appreciate if you guys wouldn't mind running a speed test to see if you have the same horrible upload speeds while on a call. I assume my requests are timing out which is why the connection seems so slow.
The first picture is off the phone and the second is while on a call.
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Yeah, it must be where you live dependent. I've used simultaneous voice/data a few times in the last week or two, and the speeds have been generally very good in my area. A slight bit slow initially connecting, but once I did, it was very fast for me.
The screenshots above were about 50 miles from my house.
Anyone else able to do a speed test while on the phone?
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I work for at&t, and unfortunately, data speeds are throttled during a call. On average, download are around 300-500k, and upload is 50k. It's so bad, that I have actually petitioned that we quit advertising this "advantage".
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This is a real problem. I cannot even send a mms message while on call. AT&T should be ashamed of themselves. I don't care if the throttle the data while call but make it so it's still usable.
Lol people. No company in the US allows voice or is capable of voice over LTE yet. Only HSPA+ and 3G at this time. That's why your phone drops to it while on a call.
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Lol people. No company in the US allows voice or is capable of voice over LTE yet. Only HSPA+ and 3G at this time. That's why your phone drops to it while on a call.
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You are missing the point. The speed is throttled wayyyyyy below H+ and 3G. If the issue was that the speed was "only" H+ I would be thrilled.
Look at my original screenshots of which are not LTE.
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I work for at&t, and unfortunately, data speeds are throttled during a call. On average, download are around 300-500k, and upload is 50k. It's so bad, that I have actually petitioned that we quit advertising this "advantage".
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Unfortunate but better than nothing. Funny thing is I remember being on sprint and getting speeds like that and less when not even on a call. In se Florida Verizon wasn't any better either.
Here you go during call. Definitely throttled but it has been like that ever since I went to lte phone. It is probably just more noticeable because the drop from lte to throttled speed is so much more drastic than the drop from AT&T's HSPA+ to throttled speed.
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Oh. The call hung up just before I snapped the screnshot. That is why there isn't a phone icon in the notification bar.
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OkNewMedia said:
I work for at&t, and unfortunately, data speeds are throttled during a call. On average, download are around 300-500k, and upload is 50k. It's so bad, that I have actually petitioned that we quit advertising this "advantage".
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Thank you. I went into an AT&T corporate store and argued and argued and argued with them on this. I proved it over and over with my iPhone 4S. They still denied it and said it was the tower, despite speeds being awesome when I hung up.
AT&T doesn't have to throttle in call speeds. T-Mobile doesn't. T-Mobile gets great download speeds during calls. I've tried it. The ping is exactly the same.
One AT&T supervisor I asked to speak to said it was because AT&T has way more customers. I laughed at him when he said that. I love how the nation's second largest wireless provider is always hurting for spectrum and money. Haha.
Wasn't this a huge selling point for the iPhone 4 on AT&T? SVAD (Simultaneous Voice And Data). It's shame how they throttle it down to the point were it is completely useless.
Hi every body
i seem when my note display 3g the internet dosnt work i need to wait for couple of seconds to display h or h+ and then works. Is that normal? Why i cant use the 3g regular network?
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Yes thats normal. Its to preserve bettery the signal will regilary drop down into 3g when idle
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Hi every body
i seem when my note display 3g the internet dosnt work i need to wait for couple of seconds to display h or h+ and then works. Is that normal? Why i cant use the 3g regular network?
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I'm on the same boat homie. Can't figure it out. I guess it's just another amazing T-Mobile limitation.
Tmobiles 3g and 4g network are the same the 4g is actually just 3g with better antenna technology and I think a power boost. The 3g network is called hspa and 4g is hspa+. That is why att had 3g 3.5g and 4g att considered the hspa+ 3.5g because they launched their lte network as 4g. So technically when tmo launches lte it will be tmos 5g. They changed the definition of the whole thing a while ago. G stands for generation. So that is why tmobile is allowed to call it 4g because it is their 4 generation of high speed internet. There is no actually standard. like edge being 2g hspa being 3g lte 4g the way it should be.
For the roms that use the h, h+, 3g format usually 3g actually EDGE or 2g. H is 3g and h+ is 4g So the net is probally not broken it is just ridiculously slow. I hope I explained that right. That is what it seems like to me from GOOGLEING it.
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Tmobiles 3g and 4g network are the same the 4g is actually just 3g with better antenna technology and I think a power boost. The 3g network is called hspa and 4g is hspa+. That is why att had 3g 3.5g and 4g att considered the hspa+ 3.5g because they launched their lte network as 4g. So technically when tmo launches lte it will be tmos 5g. They changed the definition of the whole thing a while ago. G stands for generation. So that is why tmobile is allowed to call it 4g because it is their 4 generation of high speed internet. There is no actually standard. like edge being 2g hspa being 3g lte 4g the way it should be.
For the roms that use the h, h+, 3g format usually 3g actually EDGE or 2g. H is 3g and h+ is 4g So the net is probally not broken it is just ridiculously slow. I hope I explained that right. That is what it seems like to me from GOOGLEING it.
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Hey thanks for that info. I tested out all networks again...
4G = Fast Data.
3G = No Data AT ALL.
Edge = Slow Data.
If T-Mobile's 4G and 3G networks are the same thing, why don't I get data when the phone says it's connected to a 3G tower? I had 3G service with my previous phone and it had decent data speed. I could stream music and browse the web easily. Now... 3G just doesn't work at all.
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Hey thanks for that info. I tested out all networks again...
4G = Fast Data.
3G = No Data AT ALL.
Edge = Slow Data.
If T-Mobile's 4G and 3G networks are the same thing, why don't I get data when the phone says it's connected to a 3G tower? I had 3G service with my previous phone and it had decent data speed. I could stream music and browse the web easily. Now... 3G just doesn't work at all.
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Thanks fo that. Thats what im talking about. I have my other phone (nexus s) and works with 3g tower. Note 2 dosent works. Im going to call tmobile customer service to complain lol
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I called tmobile today and the technical support told me they are going refering this issue to the engeniere to look forward what can be happening with this problem, bcse is not normal. We supposed to use tge 3g network too. Sorry my english is bad.
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Bestplayer55 said:
I called tmobile today and the technical support told me they are going refering this issue to the engeniere to look forward what can be happening with this problem, bcse is not normal. We supposed to use tge 3g network too. Sorry my english is bad.
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Cool man keep us updated!!
Silly question, but I'm curious. In my area, according to what I have seen on T-Mobile's website, there is some LTE coverage in the greater downtown area. Although I have "4G" just about everywhere, I have also been through the downtown areas and never seen an LTE icon or anything like that on my phone. Speed test results have also not shown anything significant either. Can someone with known LTE chime in?
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Silly question, but I'm curious. In my area, according to what I have seen on T-Mobile's website, there is some LTE coverage in the greater downtown area. Although I have "4G" just about everywhere, I have also been through the downtown areas and never seen an LTE icon or anything like that on my phone. Speed test results have also not shown anything significant either. Can someone with known LTE chime in?
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Yep, here's a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/OubhiYj.jpg
It will say LTE along with the 4G icon
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Yep, here's a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/OubhiYj.jpg
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Perfect! I hit the thanks button for you.
Wow 33mb download
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Wow 33mb download
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Yeah crazy right?
A similar question (I have neither an S4 nor T-Mobile service at this time, but will in the near future).
When you switch from HSPA+ "4G" to LTE 4G... is there an interruption in service for a few seconds as you change networks? I have a Nexus S 4G on Sprint right now, and where I live if I drive 10 miles I will go back and forth between 3G and 4G several times. And every time 4G becomes either available or unavailable, I will have a several second interruption in service while it switches networks. It's so annoying that I sometimes completely disable 4G because I'd rather have slow steady 3G than all these switches back and forth with gaps. Does that make sense?
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A similar question (I have neither an S4 nor T-Mobile service at this time, but will in the near future).
When you switch from HSPA+ "4G" to LTE 4G... is there an interruption in service for a few seconds as you change networks? I have a Nexus S 4G on Sprint right now, and where I live if I drive 10 miles I will go back and forth between 3G and 4G several times. And every time 4G becomes either available or unavailable, I will have a several second interruption in service while it switches networks. It's so annoying that I sometimes completely disable 4G because I'd rather have slow steady 3G than all these switches back and forth with gaps. Does that make sense?
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Its quite normal it just means your radio is switching signals and theres a small down time for a second while it searches for the change in frequency.
Your probably seeing the O with a line thru it for a split second then signal bars arise
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Its quite normal it just means your radio is switching signals and theres a small down time for a second while it searches for the change in frequency.
Your probably seeing the O with a line thru it for a split second then signal bars arise
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Yes, I do understand the reason behind it and that it's normal for my phone.
But I have never used an HSPA+ or LTE network or phone and I'm asking if the same thing happens with the S4 when switching between HSPA+ and LTE. I assume it does, but would appreciate confirmation from someone with the phone, on Tmobile, with both networks available in their area. Thanks.
I have an interesting issue. My wife and I both have Note II's. I have a grey one, she has a white one. Both are on the latest Stock Rom and rooted, same kernel and modem revisions. Both phones on the dreaded 2000 PRL (Havent got around to flashing another one because we have an Airave 2.5)
My phone will not connect to 3g at all when I have LTE enabled. The other phone connects to 3G just fine with LTE enabled.
I have another friend that only sporadically connects to 3g with LTE enabled. If I set the phones that wont stay connected to 3G to CDMA mode everything is fine.
Any ideas?
Try automatic?
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Does this happen around the airave? Airaves are known to cause a host of isues with rooted phones even with no custom roms
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The only way to get 3g when lte is enabled is when you lose lte sinal is you just want to use 3g set it to cdam mode only if you set it to lte
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Cdma only or global
I was reading some other sites and threads after I encountered a problem almost just like this because I had switched my signal type while on AOSP.
I discovered that because our phone are global they have different connection setting and in short when you switch to either global mode or CDMA only, and try to go back to lte evdo the phone will roam constantly and will not be able to reconnect to lte. So while I was trying to fix my LTE I managed to force my LTE on but I wasnt getting any cdma or evdo. finally I got everything back to normal by flashing a back to stock rom and doing a hands free activation.
I'm also have an overwhelming time with 3g. I have no lte in my area but have tried both CDMA only and CDMA/let settings. My 3g is on and off within 1 minute intervals or hours at a time. I pretty much have no data connection 95% of the day, until I get home from work and can hit WiFi.
I'm just stock rooted on MC2 and also on prl 2000.
I've been on the phone with sprint for days trying to figure this out or get them to waive my ETF. I refuse to keep paying for service when I am not getting any. It's bad enough they don't have 4G much less LTE here, but I can't continue to do these sub par dialup speeds to no speeds.
Any other tips to try would be greatly appreciated. As sprint says everything is fine in my area...
Go figure.
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Yeah, same problem here. Somehow after rooting the phone i completely lost 4G LTE connectivity. Now everywhere i go it's only on 3G or EvDo Rev-8 which sucks. I think the only way of fixing toys issue is to Unroot and go back to stock ROM.
After doing a lot of research on the matter that is the only solution right now to our 4G LTE catastrophe. :thumbdown:
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