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Are there any drawbacks/limitations to using a Windows Phone out of contract outside the markets which it was sold? Will all the services be available? XB Live, Marketplace?
I was looking into getting an HTC Trophy (vodaphone startup) and wanted to know what problems I may encounter by not using it on Vodaphone.
well
1. if wp7 is not lauched in your country - you will have prob in WINLIVE acc creation . for example i disquise myself as american ( lol but still )
2. some nonextensive problems with credit card add..
all could be solved .. nothing rly serious
They are going to come with guns and breach your door. Hide your kids, hide your wife..
nicksti said:
Are there any drawbacks/limitations to using a Windows Phone out of contract outside the markets which it was sold? Will all the services be available? XB Live, Marketplace?
I was looking into getting an HTC Trophy (vodaphone startup) and wanted to know what problems I may encounter by not using it on Vodaphone.
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I am currently using Unlocked US T-Mobile HD7 in Russia. The phone itself works fine (calls, 3G internet, GPS), but I can't access X-Box Live and Marketplace yet, so I can't buy apps and I have to download them manually
If X-Box live and Marketplace is not available in your county, you can only "jailbreak" your phone and install them manually. So if you have unlocked phone you should not encounter and other problems.
What problem will I have with windows live account creation?
You can create Windows Live (not X-Box Live) account and use it to sync contacts, calendars etc without any problems.
Thanks for the info.
Does any one has tried the HTC location india. Does it work in India
ajithvv said:
Does any one has tried the HTC location india. Does it work in India
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I am using it, not the voice nav, as it is a paid service , but the maps are updated regularly and they are very detailed for city area, you may be out of luck in remote areas as villages, etc though.
you can download the maps via wifi through Locations App. If you want voice guided navigation, then you need to purchase it. I think it costs around 2k INR .
Doesn't the GNEX have built-in VOIP support?
My old HTC Desire with Oxygen ROM (AOSP 2.3) had this.
I assumed ICS would have it too, but I don't find anywhere to enter the sip key and password....
No it does not.
Aww, that sux.
Does any of the roms offer this?
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No it does not.
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SIP accounts have been natively supported since Gingerbread.
In ICS go into phone -> Menu -> Settings -> Internet call settings.
You can set up your SIP account there and call settings (when to use, receive incoming, etc).
Hm, yeah thats what I thought too, but I don't see any "Internet call settings" in the setup menu on my GNEX 4.0.2.
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Hm, yeah thats what I thought too, but I don't see any "Internet call settings" in the setup menu on my GNEX 4.0.2.
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You need to go into the phone app, the menu, settings. It was moved out of the main settings page.
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Ah that's where it's hiding. Actually it kinda makes sense. Thanks!
Anybody want to recommend a good SIP service and say a little about them? Currently I am using GrooVe IP + Google Voice but who knows what is going to happen now that Google has screwed them over..
I was recommended sipgate.com and terrasip.com by friends. Not much experience with them yet but I was told they are good.
From my own experience, avoid voipdiscount.com, awful call quality.
SipGate is not going to work for me, at least for the time being.
Thank you for your interest in sipgate!
Due to the increased volume of new registrations within the last few weeks, we have unfortunately ran out of free numbers in your area and we are currently not able to offer you any alternative free phone number at the moment.
We have ordered a new batch of numbers which will be made available very soon but we're afraid we can't give you an exact time frame for this yet. Follow us on twitter and we will let you know when it will be possible to sign-up for an account with us again.
We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this.
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Edit: Terrasip looks more like a European service. Anyone had success with them in the US?
Ive been so spoiled on the whole Google Voice being free thing, I'm not so sure I'm willing to pay a minute fee for VOIP/SIP..
WiredPirate said:
Anybody want to recommend a good SIP service and say a little about them? Currently I am using GrooVe IP + Google Voice but who knows what is going to happen now that Google has screwed them over..
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CallCentric
didlogic.com
Few people know about this provider because they mostly sell to other companies but their quality and rates is second to none. I pay $6/monthly and use the native sip feature. works like a charm.
Can anyone explain in a few words what is the difference between DID and SIP and VOIP.
I live in Thailand. I'd like to be able to let people call a number somewhere in Europe or US and have that redirect to my mobile here. Obviously with as low cost as possible.
I'd also like to be able to call people worldwide without spending an arm and a leg. That is what a SIP provider provides, correct?
I guess to get a number somewhere I need to find a DID provider able to provide the number in that country, right? And I'd still need some way to carry the call from the DID to me? Do I understand this right?
Unfortunately the international Internet connectivity from here isn't too good, so I thought perhaps it would be best to get a SIP provider here? Or does that not make any difference?
Sorry if this is going somewhat off topic, but since you guys seems to know this stuff and the OP (my) question has been answered I guess it's ok
Anyone know of a way to set it to only use internet calling when you are on wifi? It is pretty pointless for it to use 3g or LTE for internet calling...
Thanks
madsere said:
Can anyone explain in a few words what is the difference between DID and SIP and VOIP.
I live in Thailand. I'd like to be able to let people call a number somewhere in Europe or US and have that redirect to my mobile here. Obviously with as low cost as possible.
I'd also like to be able to call people worldwide without spending an arm and a leg. That is what a SIP provider provides, correct?
I guess to get a number somewhere I need to find a DID provider able to provide the number in that country, right? And I'd still need some way to carry the call from the DID to me? Do I understand this right?
Unfortunately the international Internet connectivity from here isn't too good, so I thought perhaps it would be best to get a SIP provider here? Or does that not make any difference?
Sorry if this is going somewhat off topic, but since you guys seems to know this stuff and the OP (my) question has been answered I guess it's ok
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SIP is a protocol for VOIP (Session Initiation Protocol).
A DID is a direct inward dialing number (a telephone number).
Normally with a sip provider you don't get a DID. You receive calls at [email protected] This does not allow a standard phone to call you, just other SIP clients.
There are various services (and some SIP providers) that will allow/grant a DID to send a call to a SIP service. You can get a DID with Sipgate or use a service such as IPKall to get a DID and forward the calls placed to that DID to your VOIP/SIP provider (which will then ring your phone).
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Anyone know of a way to set it to only use internet calling when you are on wifi? It is pretty pointless for it to use 3g or LTE for internet calling...
Thanks
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Hello.
I'm from Romania and i'm a subscriber of Vodafone Romania.
Viber works fine on my phone on every wifi I connected to, but when I activate the Mobile Internet it says that it is "currently unavailable and/or blocked". It seems that VIBER is blocked by Vodafone Romania and the only way I can use it with their Mobile Internet Service is to pay a tax of 3.13 Euros (3.8 dollars). In my opinion the fee for this service is abuzive and restrains the rights of its users.
From what I know Viber uses certain ports so it can make those VOIP calls and those are blocked by Vodafone.
My question is simple and I hope that some users from Romania and from other countries that are on Vodafone and have their Viber blocked can help with some tips and tricks on how to bypass the block.
Please refrain from answering to the question above with answers like "Change your carrier", "Use other VOIP apps instead", etc.
Let's hope we can find a way to deal with this problem,
Thank you.
SSH tunnel
My carrier also blocks VOIP like Skype & others, and the only real way I've found to get around this is to tunnel the traffic through a VPN or an SSH tunnel.
Personally I'm using the SSHTunnel app to do this. Basically you set it up to connect to a server where you have a shell account. The app then allows you to select the apps you want to tunnel their traffic.
Of course the SSH daemon on the server needs to allow forwarding of traffic and you need a good connection on both your phone & on the server end for this to work properly without call quality degradation.
Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.
Vladuu said:
Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.
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Yeah you're right there, although a good VPS doesn't have to cost a lot more than that. Also you can do more than just tunneling with something like that of course, so you get more value for your money.
If you have a good internet connection at home you could also use your own PC to set up the tunnel, you don't need to invest in renting a machine. Mind telling me what provider & plan you're on for your home connection? I'm quite familiar with Romanian providers so I could tell you if your current plan will allow that. Basically it mostly will depend on your upload speed. Naturally your PC needs to be up to the task as well...
Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Vladuu said:
Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Both your PC & your connection seem largely sufficient to do this. How exactly to set it up on Windows is something I'm not sure about (always done this with Linux ), but there is a an OpenSSH build for Windows, so you should be able to use that. Make sure you turn on port forwarding in the settings of the daemon, and forward the incoming SSH port on your router. SSH defaults to 22, but RDS might block that, so up it to something above port 1024 and it should work. Check out this guide, it seems pretty complete on first glance .
Thanks for the useful info. I think it's a good ideea to use your personal computer in order to bypass the block. I will try this tomorrow and report back here on how it goes.
In the meantime, if someone else has some other tips please post them here.
Viber
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team
Viber Team said:
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team
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Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.
@Vladuu -
It is our pleasure to be here and assist.
We'll be waiting for news from you, and we hope those will be good news
How about using Tor, if a shell account is not available, nor a private ssh server?
Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
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Vladuu said:
Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN
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well? does it work? Vodafone Spain here, same issue...
Hi,
As far as we know, Vodafone Spain still blocks VoIP services (including Viber) on its 'simple' data plan (for users who haven't purchased VoIP access).
We assume this can be confirmed with the company itself, by contacting their customer support or checking out their mobile data plans online.
Vladuu said:
Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.
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Vladuu, did you ever find an answer to this? It seems it's an intermittent block for me. Sometimes it works, sometimes no.
I droped my Vodafone contract because they were the first company to implement a voip net blockage in germany.
I can only recommend to do this. Bypassing a blockage might be against your contract, which means you're asking for ways to break your contract / the law....
I'm now using O2 / Germany. They've posted on twitter that they won't block voip, ever. You are able to vote with your money, do it!
I know it's months after the previous replies, but I also faced this problem (for Skype) and fixed it.
The solution is using a VPN, but you don't necessarily need one at home. I use OpenVPN Connect from Play Store and vpnbook.com.
Install OpenVPN, install the certificates from vpnbook.com (server1 & server2, I just just UDP, 25000), then anytime you need to use SKype, follow these steps:
1. Open you browser of choice, go to vpnbook.com, the OpenVPN tab, get the current password (they change once per day)
1a. Close the browser from the recent tasks window, or (in case you use FF) you will not be able to browse using it after you start the VPN Connection
2. OpenVPN Connect, enter the password you found in step 1. Click Connect, check "I trust this ... <>" and OK.
3. Start Skype/Viber/whatever.
Thank you and sorry for the bump.
Hello.
I am living in Norway and I have the opportunity to get the Pixel watch from the UK.
Will it be restricted here so just basic functionality like notifications and health tracking will work, or can I take use of e-sim, and google pay?
Maybe there is a way to spoof it if ever it is restricted?
Thanks in advance!
Update: I got it working with help from @lxrable , all kudos to him!
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Hello! I live in Sweden and i got LTE working on the Pixel Watch. I am using the carrier Telenor.
Ordered a esim from a supported carrier/country. (Vodafone De Pay as you go free esim)
Activated the eSim, and restarted my phone making sure I had connection with the supported carrier.
Launched the Pixel Watch App in my phone.
Went into the eSim/Carrier section and clicked on setting up the connection with the supported carrier.
Changed to the phone settings, and deactivated the temporary eSim and activated my primary eSim
Switched back to the Pixel Watch App, with the request to scan a QR code still active.
Scanned the QR-kod I got for smartwatch at Telenor SE
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I live in Italy and I was able to set it up with a modification.
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I live in Italy and I was able to set it up with a modification.
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Ok. Can you elaborate what you did? And did you get LTE to work?
Hello again. I recieved my LTE Watch today.
When it come to adding E-sim to the watch it only say "set up your mobile service", but there is nothing to click after that. Seems some options should show up under the text. I talked to my provider and they said it should work.
Secondly I added my card succesfully to Google pay, but when I open Google wallet on the watch it says it's not supported in my country. Google pay on wearos should be available in Norway so can this be because of the watch not being sold in Norway?
After tinkering with the watch and the phone, I made Google Pay work by clearing data on wallet app on watch. (I did try it before, but didn't do anything then)
Has anybody been able to setup the esim in an unsupported country?
I have an esim for my Pixel watch but like others, the page to set it up in the app is blank.
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I live in Italy and I was able to set it up with a modification.
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Hi @hippos78 , i live in Italy too!! How did you setup the esim? I have Tim...
I was able to order an eSIM from Vodafone Germany (pay as you go, 0€).
After adding the eSIM to my phone I was able to scan the QR code of my unsupported carrier successfully.
However, my carrier requires custom APN settings, and I don't know how I can change them, so I can call, but I have no data connection.
Does anyone have any idea how I can change the APN settings on the Pixel Watch?
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I was able to order an eSIM from Vodafone Germany (pay as you go, 0€).
After adding the eSIM to my phone I was able to scan the QR code of my unsupported carrier successfully.
However, my carrier requires custom APN settings, and I don't know how I can change them, so I can call, but I have no data connection.
Does anyone have any idea how I can change the APN settings on the Pixel Watch?
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Good idea with the Vodafone eSim! I will do some testing when I get home in a week!
Italy here.
GPay works wonders, no way to put an eSim or another plan on it.
I have Vodafone (IT) which has a secondary plan for watches, but even after activating it, the page in the app is blank.
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I live in Italy and I was able to set it up with a modification.
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Hi, could you please explain the process? I live in Italy too and got the Tim One but no progress with the mobile network page
dino_zwei said:
Hi, could you please explain the process? I live in Italy too and got the Tim One but no progress with the mobile network page
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It was literally explained in this very thread if you just bother to read it all..
Hi, can someone explain how to set it up the Pixel watch with TIM (i live in italy).
I think that the explanation was removed
Thanks a lot!!
@Shebee i can't find it
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It was literally explained in this very thread if you just bother to read it all..
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Did you manage to solve the APN settings problem? Can you tell me how can you get a QR or SM-DP+ code for the multipoint/ multidevice sim service, I could only get a QR for the esim which can be used in only 1 device.
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Did you manage to solve the APN settings problem? Can you tell me how can you get a QR or SM-DP+ code for the multipoint/ multidevice sim service, I could only get a QR for the esim which can be used in only 1 device.
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No I haven't been able to change the APN settings no no data connection for me, just calls.
The multisim is dependent your carrier, ask them.
Got it working! See first post.
trainfire said:
Got it working! See first post.
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Thank you so much for the news! I'll try it as soon as possible!
If someone in Italy try before me, let me know if it works with Tim, thanks!
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Thank you so much for the news! I'll try it as soon as possible!
If someone in Italy try before me, let me know if it works with Tim, thanks!
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Have been trying with TIM for a week. No progress yet. We can't get a QR for the multisim in Italy. Best solution so far is to use a very mobile esim on your watch (no problem with APN but different number so no calls unless watch is connected).
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Have been trying with TIM for a week. No progress yet. We can't get a QR for the multisim in Italy. Best solution so far is to use a very mobile esim on your watch (no problem with APN but different number so no calls unless watch is connected).
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Ok thanks Dino, let me know if there are progress here in Italy. Ma a questo punto la vedo dura
How you guys got those pre-paid esims from other countries? Did you actually went there? I can't see any option to send those abroad... :O (sending this from Poland, while nearest "supported" countries are DE & GB)