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So it's the end of the year and I have a week or so off work with time on my hands.
I have a stock Desire, unbranded and not rooted. Yes it is running 2.2 but beyond that it is as it shipped.
So over the last few weeks I have started to note the low disk warning every now and then. Some of this driven by bad mailbox management on my part as I sync with Exchange and the Desire stores all email and contacts in the system memory and not on the SD card. In addition, large applications such as Swype don't help and only certain apps will actually install to SD
I can't help thinking that as I install and then uninstall applications, all the memory is not recovered.
So I have a few options.
1. Wipe everything and start again. This is easy to do and gives me a nice clean install for the new year
2. Root and then try and force further apps to SD (but this does not get around the mail storage)
3. Flash a different ROM. Some of these appear to give me better memory management.
Now this is my work phone so any ROM would have to be 100% stable. I do not have time these days to "fiddle" with settings each time I try and do something with my phone.
So any thoughts?
Which of these options would you take and why?
If it's your work phone then I suggest you to root it and flash it with a custom ROM which supports ext partitions. If you think you can't survive without HTC Sense then flash LeeDroid. For native android interface I recommend DeFroST 6.1 (but not 6.1a)
I've never used LeeDroid but heard that it is stable. I've been using DeFroST for weeks and never ever had a problem.
With ext2 partition support, you can install all of your apps to an ext partition on your sd card, which the phone sees as it's native memory. You'll never ever run out of free space.
Rooting is harmless if you do it carefully. So be careful.
Personally, I'd just do a hard reset of the phone and start again only installing the apps you know you're going to use and try and keep it free from clutter. If it's been fine as it is then there may not be any need to change it.
Otherwise I'd look at Teppic's rooted stock ROM. You can add things like A2SD+ so you can install more apps but other than that it'll be as it currently is so nothing more to get used to.
Alternatively it might be worth looking at something different - either an AOSP ROM or MIUI. I know a lot of people don't like it but, for me, it's the best ROM I've used - and I never thought I'd like it!! It's quick, stable and has a wow factor I've not experienced since first using Sense
Interesting
So I tried option 1 first to see how things went.
I have now reinstalled ALL the applications I had before (thanks to Appbrain) plus the 10MB Flash 10.1 update that I had been avoiding due to space problems.
I have resynced all mail and am back to where I was earlier today.
But
I now have 47MB free storage on the phone compared to 13MB (and remember I could not install the Flash update).
So it does look like Android doesn't clear up after itself (just like Windows). Perhaps somebody should develop an app for that
I am also seeing the phone is a lot more responsive and snappy.
So a wipe and reinstall every few months looks to be the way forward for now.
Thanks
+1 for MIUI, great rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Try CacheMate for Root Users Free to clear the cache and free up some of our tiny internal memory. SRSLY HTC? You give us a top-shelf phone, with less than 200MB of internal storage, and a 2GB microSD card. At least mine came with a 2GB card, what did yours come with?
I have also tried MIUI and I thought I wouldn't like it also but after using it a while I love it. It's a fantastic rom.
Having the exact same problem as the OP don't know why space keeps disappearing. my exchange account seems to store every single email instead of deleting them after 5 days like i have set it to?!? Also when apps are deleted the space isn't recovered. might have to do a fresh install again. As i havent wiped anything since the last OTA that i got, maybe that is causing the problems.
PulpzillA said:
Having the exact same problem as the OP don't know why space keeps disappearing. my exchange account seems to store every single email instead of deleting them after 5 days like i have set it to?!? Also when apps are deleted the space isn't recovered. might have to do a fresh install again. As i havent wiped anything since the last OTA that i got, maybe that is causing the problems.
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To be honest I don't think Exchange is to blame here.
I have mine set to sync all emails (but not attachments). My inbox currently sits at around 500 mails (one of my jobs over Xmas to sort) which equates to about 15MB on the Desire.
I think it is various applications that don't uninstall themselves properly.
Bit annoying this happens. as i have about 15mb free and it won't let me install anymore apps! Might consider rooting...get a HD ROM only thing holding me back is voiding the warranty as i only got this phone in october.
What ROM are you running at present? If you're unbranded (or even on the Vodafone ROM) the RUU is available to go back to stock if you ever need to
Current unbranded is 2.29.405.5, current Vodafone is 2.33.161.2
Yeah running the latest Vodafone ROM. got an OTA update a few weeks back. Might root over xmas when i have some free time. I did it before with my Hero. But i think the procedure is different on the Desire (and too me looks more difficult lol)
Here's the Vodafone 2.33.161.2 RUU, keep it safe as you can go back to stock if ever needed:
http://www.multiupload.com/K0FR1OK301
Otherwise root ahead and see what's about!
Thank you very much!! looks like my xmas present this year is a desire with an HD ROM
I've used the RCMixHD ROM and found it great so I recommend that one
Leedroid's rom has been rock stable and fast for me, I just tried the Z rom by robocik(almost similar I guess to his rcmixhd) and found it lagging ang crashy at times (though I did use a titanium backup although not recommended)
leedroids will work for sure and is save to use if your phone in important to you, robocik's next sense roms are fun to tinker with and good for day to day usage but not mission critical stuff, leedroid's is
Root phone and ues apps to SD,which is the reason why I like android!
We can enjoy the rise and fall in flash rom..
Of crouse,you can choose a stable rom to use rather than frequently flashing.
CM6,Oxygen,and MINI can satisfy your taste.Using backup software can reserve the settings,so you do not have to worry about it.
Whatever,using apps to SD and intall apps as many as you want to.
Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
prodeguerriero said:
Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
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Yes you can go back when you want to
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda app-developers app
FAtfcK said:
Yes you can go back when you want to
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Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
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init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
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Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
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Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
prodeguerriero said:
Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
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Yeap. Because if you use link2sd you'll eventually reach a limit as I tried. And the storage will keep gettig full.
Yeap you can use link2sd I personally like to remove it because the menu looks messy and I have to scroll a lot to find my favourite apps so its your choice on whether you wanna remove it or not because int2ext increases your storage as it mounts sd-ext to.... I don't really get this stuff too but whatever
So far the latest android for the wfs is cm10. It is quite stable as YouTube, autobrightness and loads of stuff work. But the disadvantage is that its quite laggy and is a battery killer.
There is cm9 too. Its really smooth but there are bugs such as YouTube HQ videos playback, camcorder not fully supported and crap
Anytime happy to help
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda app-developers app
Hello everyone! I have been trying to flash a google edition or no-bs rom like AOKP, and I have been able to get them flashed successfully at times. I have been having a few problems with things such as rom flashes not working (sticks on Samsung logo) and having to odin stock again even when it says it was successful, and TWRP not getting past the logo screen when I boot into recovery about 50% of the time. Overall, this phone has just been an absolute nightmare to flash roms on compared to my gs3. If you know how to address any of these issues, please let me know. But anyways, I am mainly wondering about the data connectivity issues. I have tried several different roms - cyanogenmod, google edition 4.3 (what I wanted) and aokp 4.2.2 but nothing works right. The rom runs smoothly and fast, but the data works intermittently at best. It seems fine right after I flash sometimes, but often I won't even be able to sign in to my account to download my apps without wifi, and it rarely works when I'm out and about but yet somehow it connects well enough to stream music without freezes or interruption via google music. It's been showing "H" and "DC" in the signal bar, instead of H+ or LTE like I'm used to... Could I have screwed the modem or the radio up? If so, what do I do to fix it? While I wait for responses I will flash stock 4.2 touchwiz to see if it works better.
Thank you all.
P.s. If this is just a known problem with the roms, does anyone know of a 4.3 google edition rom that works, and is pre rooted or rootable?
re: flashing custom roms
beefee102 said:
Hello everyone! I have been trying to flash a google edition or no-bs rom like AOKP, and I have been able to get them flashed successfully at times. I have been having a few problems with things such as rom flashes not working (sticks on Samsung logo) and having to odin stock again even when it says it was successful, and TWRP not getting past the logo screen when I boot into recovery about 50% of the time. Overall, this phone has just been an absolute nightmare to flash roms on compared to my gs3. If you know how to address any of these issues, please let me know. But anyways, I am mainly wondering about the data connectivity issues. I have tried several different roms - cyanogenmod, google edition 4.3 (what I wanted) and aokp 4.2.2 but nothing works right. The rom runs smoothly and fast, but the data works intermittently at best. It seems fine right after I flash sometimes, but often I won't even be able to sign in to my account to download my apps without wifi, and it rarely works when I'm out and about but yet somehow it connects well enough to stream music without freezes or interruption via google music. It's been showing "H" and "DC" in the signal bar, instead of H+ or LTE like I'm used to... Could I have screwed the modem or the radio up? If so, what do I do to fix it? While I wait for responses I will flash stock 4.2 touchwiz to see if it works better.
Thank you all.
P.s. If this is just a known problem with the roms, does anyone know of a 4.3 google edition rom that works, and is pre rooted or rootable?
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To make your long story a lot shorter, I have seen dozens of posts just like yours.
The only way to solve problems such as you are having is simple, only flash Samsung M919 Galaxy S4
Touchwiz 4.2.2 based custom roms. Stay away from any of the aokp/aosp/cm10 or google and other ported roms.
(Wicked v6 and Darthstalker v8 are both excellent custom roms)
Download a custom rom, copy to internal sdcard, boot to twrp/cwm recovery, be sure to do a "factory reset", "wipe cache",
"data", "dalvik cache" and "system" before you start flashing. If you do all of the above, you will have no further problems.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
To make your long story a lot shorter, I have seen dozens of posts just like yours.
The only way to solve problems such as you are having is simple, only flash Samsung M919 Galaxy S4
Touchwiz 4.2.2 based custom roms. Stay away from any of the aokp/aosp/cm10 or google and other ported roms.
(Wicked v6 and Darthstalker v8 are both excellent custom roms)
Download a custom rom, copy to internal sdcard, boot to twrp/cwm recovery, be sure to do a "factory reset", "wipe cache",
"data", "dalvik cache" and "system" before you start flashing. If you do all of the above, you will have no further problems.
Good luck!
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Well, that's what I've been trying to do. I really wanted to try 4.3, but really I just want to escape the bloated, sluggish stock rom. It's so slow, and I know that this phone is blazing fast, and I want to be rid of the pesky, space hogging bloat but when I tried to remove it I had all sorts of problems (such as gallery not working, forcequits out the wazu, and excessive battery use). On that note, and since I've been an AOKP Junkie since I was rocking a GS1 captivate, could you possibly recommend a rom that is more or less a streamlined TW? I like things such as swipe contact to call and the swipe any direction lock screen but i don't need any of the gimmicky samsung stuff. It would be nice if I could still use the airview stuff, though.
re: free space
beefee102 said:
Well, that's what I've been trying to do. I really wanted to try 4.3, but really I just want to escape the bloated, sluggish stock rom. It's so slow, and I know that this phone is blazing fast, and I want to be rid of the pesky, space hogging bloat but when I tried to remove it I had all sorts of problems (such as gallery not working, forcequits out the wazu, and excessive battery use). On that note, and since I've been an AOKP Junkie since I was rocking a GS1 captivate, could you possibly recommend a rom that is more or less a streamlined TW? I like things such as swipe contact to call and the swipe any direction lock screen but i don't need any of the gimmicky samsung stuff. It would be nice if I could still use the airview stuff, though.
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It looks like you want a lot of the bells and whistles of the stock 4.2.2 touchwiz rom but 1GB of unusable wasted space is more
important to you. ... If you would do a bit of investigating of how the phone allocates free and used space you would quickly
change your mind.
All of the Android phones have a partition of a pre determined size dedicated for the rom/firmware only so regardless
of how little space certain roms use the extra free space you would gain is not useable by the end user unless the phone
is re-partitioned with a custom bootloader which would involve a lot of very technical knowledge to do.
Even if you could do it yourself, what would you gain?? 850-950MB more or less, not even 1GB ?
The two custom roms which I suggested are already de-bloated as much as possible without hindering performance and during
flashing both of those custom roms have options of adding features and apps which users want to be included or skipping those
apps and or features which the user does not want or need.
Go to the playstore and download a free app called Antutu Benchmark after you restore your nandroid backup of
your stock rom, or re-flashing your stock rom and then run the benchmark, write down your score.
After doing that either flash one of the Google edition roms or any of the Cyanogen roms and run another benchmark
so you will see with your own eyes that the 2 scores will be very similar, no big or noticeable difference in daily usage.
If you're a good boy perhaps Santa will give you a 64GB microSD card for Xmas.
Gaining 1GB more or less would hardly make a difference anyway even if was feasible to do. (which it's not)
Misterjunky said:
It looks like you want a lot of the bells and whistles of the stock 4.2.2 touchwiz rom but 1GB of unusable wasted space is more
important to you. ... If you would do a bit of investigating of how the phone allocates free and used space you would quickly
change your mind.
All of the Android phones have a partition of a pre determined size dedicated for the rom/firmware only so regardless
of how little space certain roms use the extra free space you would gain is not useable by the end user unless the phone
is re-partitioned with a custom bootloader which would involve a lot of very technical knowledge to do.
Even if you could do it yourself, what would you gain?? 850-950MB more or less, not even 1GB ?
The two custom roms which I suggested are already de-bloated as much as possible without hindering performance and during
flashing both of those custom roms have options of adding features and apps which users want to be included or skipping those
apps and or features which the user does not want or need.
Go to the playstore and download a free app called Antutu Benchmark after you restore your nandroid backup of
your stock rom, or re-flashing your stock rom and then run the benchmark, write down your score.
After doing that either flash one of the Google edition roms or any of the Cyanogen roms and run another benchmark
so you will see with your own eyes that the 2 scores will be very similar, no big or noticeable difference in daily usage.
If you're a good boy perhaps Santa will give you a 64GB microSD card for Xmas.
Gaining 1GB more or less would hardly make a difference anyway even if was feasible to do. (which it's not)
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Well, I did mention them but I'm less concerned about the usage and performance than I am getting rid of all the bloody bloatware. It infuriates me to no end that I can't uninstall lookout and all those other apps that I'll never use and that give me constant pesky notifications. Plus, I did try a 4.3 rom and it may not actually be faster, but it definitely felt snappier and cleaner. I like that, even if it is an illusion. But since everyone is saying to stay with tw roms, I was asking for one that doesn't have all the garbage apps but still has the ability to support the phone's special functions. Oh well. I found a 4.3 that seems to be working so I'll stick with that.
As far as connectivity goes, check that the APN settings are right. I had the exact same issue with no LTE, slow or no connection, etc and the APN settings from the ROM flashed were wrong. It needs to be the fast.t-mobile APN, not the epc.tmobile APN. Also, not all ROMs have the icon for LTE, so you might be getting it and you just dont know it. Try a speed test to confirm. Hope that helps!
EDIT: I ran the CM10 nightlies on mine with no issues at all. I have also ran a few other ROMs. Right now I am simply running a deodexed rooted stock ROM that is in the development section that allowed me to flash a debloater and/or remove the bloat I don't want, yet keep all the stock touchwiz features, WiFi calling, etc. Simple and easy.
Misterjunky said:
To make your long story a lot shorter, I have seen dozens of posts just like yours.
The only way to solve problems such as you are having is simple, only flash Samsung M919 Galaxy S4
Touchwiz 4.2.2 based custom roms. Stay away from any of the aokp/aosp/cm10 or google and other ported roms.
(Wicked v6 and Darthstalker v8 are both excellent custom roms)
Download a custom rom, copy to internal sdcard, boot to twrp/cwm recovery, be sure to do a "factory reset", "wipe cache",
"data", "dalvik cache" and "system" before you start flashing. If you do all of the above, you will have no further problems.
Good luck!
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This seems awfully drastic. The AOSP based 4.3 ROMs work fine.
As for the OP's concerns about DC and H in the signal bar, that's normal.
I tried to enable it in developer options but after reboot it gets stuck on boot logo spinning that arrow. First time i waited half an hour now whole hour, nothing happens. I had to do factory reset and wipe all to boot up.
Anyone else tried this?
DjDexter5GHz said:
I tried to enable it in developer options but after reboot it gets stuck on boot logo spinning that arrow. First time i waited half an hour now whole hour, nothing happens. I had to do factory reset and wipe all to boot up.
Anyone else tried this?
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Read the CM11 thread, it has been discussed there quite a few times, with multiple (possible) solutions posted. Use Search tool if necessary.
Someguyfromhell said:
Read the CM11 thread, it has been discussed there quite a few times, with multiple (possible) solutions posted. Use Search tool if necessary.
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Eventually, i found out there were newer builds which work. In case anyone else has same problem. (Always dl newest one!)
Yes, the new build's partition have been updated so that ART can be activated. Nevertheless, the dev warn you that ART is still in alpha stage, that's why it was not natively implemented in KK as the original runtime. More and more apps are being updated to support ART but on our old device, it is recommended to stay on Dalvik for now.
The problem with ART is that it's still in a testing stage, even on new models that get 4.4 as legit release.
We don't have enough cache to run it smoothly enough, and of the few people that did turn it on, most of them either saw no difference in the devices performance or thought that it was so minimal that it could well have simply been a placebo.
We all want the latest garb but there is always a point at where a line is drawn...
Funnily enough, most people that ask about ART clearly show within their reply bodies that they don't know anything about Android except how to flash a rom :-s
Nathan
Well I am not dumb as I may look, but only drawback I found for now is that I am running low on internal memory. Phone battery lasts for 3+ days in comparison with dalvik where it held for about a day, and everything runs much smoothly.
Mike says its not possible right now we only can wait right now but arc dont have much memory in data thats problem
AOKP Rom with ART enabled
It is very well possible to use KitKat 4.4.2 on our phones. Even with ART-runtime enabled. I personally use AOKP (Android Open Kang Project)'s KitKat version, and I managed to get ART-runtime enabled and running very fast and smooth.
You can find the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2624761
Of course you have to first install the kernel, which is given in the zip-file. Just unzip the kernel and Flashboot it to your device. Then go into CWM-recovery and go to Mounts and Storage and activate USB-mount. Locate the full AOKP-zip and place it on your SD-Card, as wel as the minimal Gapps for 4.4.2., found here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2012857. Unmount the USB, and install the zip as usual through the menu for it. Then, after installing AOKP, install the minimal Gapps.
Reboot and let your device sit for a while, or play around with it a bit....
I proceeded with installing Mounts2SD from playstore, while before having prepared my class10 8 Gb sdcard into two partitions. One partition FAT32, size about 6Gb and one partition EXT2 size around 2 Gb. Move everything to SD-card through the menu of Mounts2sd, except Dalvik-cache. NEVER MOVE THIS!!! (Don't move dalvik-cache to SD...)
Reboot at least two times to let the script (Mounts2sd) settle in... After this I installed Pimp-my-Rom from playstore and activated the nav-bar and some other scripts to improve the experience. Also I odexed (after finishing all my modifications) the phone through this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2527732
I then went to CWM-recovery through a reboot and made a full backup, which I advice you to do also, in case something goes horribly wrong.
Reboot to AOKP. As you can see, this ROM is awesome-fast beyond belief already. I had benchmarks in AnTuTu of around 6000, with NoFrills-CPU at 1401 Mhz. But, it can be faster if you choose to run ART-runtime instead of Dalvik. Be sure to remove all unwanted programs before switching to ART-runtime, because it'll take a lot of space in cache, and every program you don't need (system-programs that is) will reserve more space for ART.
Only and ONLY if your system is running smoothly on Dalvik, I advise you to go to your Phone-settings, (under Settings of course) and tap on 'Build-number' like 10 times. You will now become a developer. An extra menu will appear under Settings, where you can choose to run the ART-runtime library. Choose this and you will reboot.
Wait, wait and wait a long time for reboot. After initial booting everything has to be updated to ART-compiled apps. This will take a long time per app. Just wait and don't disturb your phone. If you get to the phone after booting, then you probably succeeded... You can check under the same settings-tab under Developer-options. If ART is selected, then you have it.
I strongly advice in case of mishaps regarding loss of network etc. to just reboot. Wait, wait and eventually you'll get there. Make a backup as soon as you have a stable working system under CWM-recovery.
I have been running stable ART under this AOKP-rom for about two weeks now and I'm really happy with it. Not only is the phone lightning-fast (6417 under AnTuTu, with CPU on my Arc LT15i on 1401 Mhz), but smooth as hell! Batterytime is amazing. This is as fast as it's gonna get! (I must have tried almost every ROM out there from stock 4.0.1 to 4.4.2...)
Hope you'll try and may it work for you too...!
(BTW my ultimate thanks to the guys from Open Kang Project!)
P.S. stock-browser is lagging... as usual under 4.4, but I use Dolphin and it is fast! Some toggles require reboot to function again. Some programs might fail you due to not being ready for ART. Facebook is a mess for instance, sometimes quitting, getting unresponsive etc. Otherwise I have encountered no problems whatsoever, albeit that memory is low of course and a minimality of (system-)programs should be installed for a good functionality of the phone.
It's really important for LT15i owners, to flash the stock software for LT18i (ARC S) onto your device, at least once, before installing any custom rom, because it removes the vendor-partition, which will give you an extra 40 Mb I'm told. Also partition your SDCARD before installing the AOKP-rom, as it will use the sdcard to store information on which will be deleted when you partition your card.
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It is very well possible to use KitKat 4.4.2 on our phones.
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can confirm, i have used art on xperia arc s with carbon rom nightly from 25.3.2014 with the included kernel, and micro gapps package from paranoid android. just flashed, activated art, rebooted and waited over 9000 hours. confirmed art was enabled in the developer options.
i think it was faster afterwards, i am not sure though. it seemed to be easy on the battery, too, but again, i didn't do any benchmarks or run a battery monitor so it could very well be that everything was in fact worse ^^
what i really noticed though: i had almost no internal memory for apps left. even after installing link2sd and linking all user apps, i still had not enough room to install all the apps i consider essential (10-20 apps maybe?).
i am now back to running on dalvik, the small internal memory of the arc s doesn't seem to lend itself to the art runtime very well.
yes, i know that there are gapps packages which are only 20 mB compared to the 80 mB of the pa-gapps package, still, even with a core gapps, those 60 mb don't mean very much with art running...
My father is complaining a lot lately that the phone is even slower than usual and that apps are not installing. I checked it out myself and while I find stock ICS on these devices literally unusable even after a fresh install, this time it's worse than anything I've ever seen, apps take several seconds to open and the phone chugs along at a snail's pace. On top of that, I can't install **** even though I have over 100Mb free internal memory, yet the Play Store keeps complaining about not enough storage available.
I have no idea how the phone became this slow, like I said before, ICS is a clunky sluggish mess on 2011 xperias, but now it's even worse, and my father other than the stock apps only installed Whatsapp.
So yeah, how do I make this piece of crap usable and how do you fix the storage issue? Google gives me a billion different solutions and not a single one works.
Phone is rooted on stock ICS latest, model is ARC S.
Formatting the phone is not a solution, so I can't install another rom (unless you can keep the data partition).
MarkMRL said:
My father is complaining a lot lately that the phone is even slower than usual and that apps are not installing. I checked it out myself and while I find stock ICS on these devices literally unusable even after a fresh install, this time it's worse than anything I've ever seen, apps take several seconds to open and the phone chugs along at a snail's pace. On top of that, I can't install **** even though I have over 100Mb free internal memory, yet the Play Store keeps complaining about not enough storage available.
I have no idea how the phone became this slow, like I said before, ICS is a clunky sluggish mess on 2011 xperias, but now it's even worse, and my father other than the stock apps only installed Whatsapp.
So yeah, how do I make this piece of crap usable and how do you fix the storage issue? Google gives me a billion different solutions and not a single one works.
Phone is rooted on stock ICS latest, model is ARC S.
Formatting the phone is not a solution, so I can't install another rom (unless you can keep the data partition).
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Go back to GB. In the end, this phone was made to run smootly on GB, not on ICS.
Stock ICS is just a huge fail. Custom ROMs make it a little better, but GB works the best.
EDIT: Just a note, for Play Store issue, try clearing data for the Play Store app.
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You can try flashing a new ROM without wiping Data...
Nevertheless, IMO, the best solution is to save all the data on the SD Card and reflash the stock Arc S TFT through FlashTool. This will normally solve lots of bugs.
Hope I helped.
Cheers.
MarkMRL said:
My father is complaining a lot lately that the phone is even slower than usual and that apps are not installing.
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Stock ICS sucks on arc,custom ROM is a little better than stock but still it's pretty slow.I recommended you to use the ROM that i use it's custom,everything works perfect and it's fast.It's based on GB.Gin2KitKat 3.0.0 the ROM is themed to look like kitkat but it's GB and it runs perfectly on this phone,that ROM you can install without wiping data,just follow the steps(Gin2KitKat is the ROM that that works for me,there are different people's with different need's but this is the ROM i always come back to).But almost every ROM you can flash without wiping data,but ROM's works better when the phone is clean.But just in case make a nandroid backup with CWM and backup data with an app,if you can't install from market google for it...I think titanium backup would be perfect for this job i think the free version can do the job.Good luck!
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Thanks guys, I think I'll just flash an GB based rom. He wanted to avoid having to reset the phone (even with the backup it takes some time to restore everything as it was before) but there doesn't seem to be any other solution. I remember that when I had the Xperia Ray I used a rom that was the same as Gingerbread on Xperia S and had no bugs whatsoever, is there something similar for Arc? And can I flash Arc roms on the Arc S no problem?
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Thanks guys, I think I'll just flash an GB based rom. He wanted to avoid having to reset the phone (even with the backup it takes some time to restore everything as it was before) but there doesn't seem to be any other solution. I remember that when I had the Xperia Ray I used a rom that was the same as Gingerbread on Xperia S and had no bugs whatsoever, is there something similar for Arc? And can I flash Arc roms on the Arc S no problem?
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Most (if not all) ROMs are built for Arc and Arc S both, they will work on both as well.
There are some GB ROMs available, most known now is probably Gin2KitKat (using it myself), but look in the Development section to find more.