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Just wondering really? they keep getting locked for off-topic, when general is a pretty wide topic... i would think anything pertaining to the epic that isnt a question or a development, should go there... maybe im wrong??
Exactly... moderators really need to do a MUCH better job at communication. I have sent PM's and do not get responses, so please explain moderators.
they only communicate by banning and closing threads.. theimpaler was one of the few mods here that could communicate... the rest put this place on auto pilot and ban/mod without reading or communicating and half the time without thinking...
Thank you
Thanks Chris for speaking up for the new people around. Means a lot
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I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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JohnCorleone said:
I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.
thomasskull666 said:
Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.
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Hopefully the mods get this under control because we are losing some of our kindest and most helpful devs. Also, what the flamers fail to realize is they are only hurting the rest of the community because a lot of the developers, themers, and testers are just choosing to communicate via G-Talk anyway. Its truly sad that developers spend hours, days, and weeks of their free time, often working all night long to provide their great projects, and they seem to get less respect than someone who spreads nothing but negativity and provides no help whatsoever.
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superpaperman said:
+1, I'm a noob and I know that...
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Well welcome. You would be surprised by some of the things you see posted around here.
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Lets keep it in one place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177144
Devs, n00bs, seniors, everyone. Please calm down.
N00bs..read before you post. This is a big cause to recent drama. I read a thread today and the same question was asked and answered on like3 straight pages... this is not called for.
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
Everyone else please don't fight and make things worse. Help the n00bs with links to forum rules and such.
I make all these mistakes too. But we need to fix it. We are losing our community.
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I'll add to this a bit if you don't mind. Any noobs feel free to pm me whatever the question may be and I will try to help. There is no sense starting a new thread because 99%of the time the question has been answered and i honestly I like to help. I don't have time to develop so this is my attempt to give back to a community I got a lot out of. I may not have your answer but will most likely be able to send you in the right direction and knipp is extremely helpful and knowledgeable as well. I personally don't care but don't post a thread like help plz I bricked my phone in the dev section unless you have a pair of flame retardant pants. Look bottom line is I'm here to help if anyone needs it
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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knipp21 said:
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
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This. It's extremely refreshing when a dev spends good time creating a ROM for a phone. It's nice to be handed a ROM that has been tested and is essentially bug free. I praise the guys that do that, and the guys that stick to their work. Doing it for fun rather than for money.
Of course I'm not expecting a good ROM to fall into our laps, I do like to follow projects from start to finish just as long as the dev(s) are working solely on that project - Like Cyanogen.
I agree about posting ROMs that are fully tested.. but then only 10 or so get to enjoy the ROM until it's stable. It's nice having everyone give feedback because 100 testers is better than 10. But I 100% agree with you, we need to get this community back on track, and we as users can help indefinitely.
We need to remember, not too long ago we we n00bs. I didn't even know what an .apk was. Now I know how to edit and decompile .apks.
Let's help to make this a fun and sharing community again.
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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Great idea. I'm in a radar class all week so I can't do it but if anyone wants to that would be awesome. I hope our mod will sticky it.
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Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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Include the fact you can't use sense programs on aosp roms. And other stuff lol
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Haha ill put that in bold. Hlp plzzz flashed tiamat on skyraider and i can haz no wifi. Hahahahahahah
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Yes, you have to wipe.
Hey guys im not gonna get to starr the all in one thread tonight my son is crazy sick and cant sleep. Ill start tomorrow night, meanwhile shoot me some suggestions on what you think should be included
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Saw a couple people posting in the reward for ICS thread saying they'd donate for CM7. Figure I'd
start one specifically for that. I'll put in 20. Anybody else? The devs absolutely deserve it
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im in, put me in for $20
What's the motive of this thread? To get CM7 faster? Its already being worked on by the CM team.
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Valid point. Yeah, I'd say for some motivation ($ never hurts) and more for just showing how much we appreciate them giving a little love to our device.
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Another useless thread *sigh*
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10$
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Only useless if u call getting the developers some well deserved funds useless...*sigh*
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These threads don't help. The dev will get it out when he gets it out. The CM team doesn't work off this type of motivation or have ETA's. However, this thread might make the release slower, because they know that the longer this thread is out, more people will pledge. Regardless, donations are made appropriately when the product is released. This thread won't even give them an idea of how much money they'll get because by the time it is out, people will be in different financial situations. It is a very poor way to get ROMs coming.
..And frankly IF this motivates CM, i would rather it wouldn't because there could be a chance where someone would rush something just for the sake of money. I want my ROMs stable as they can be. So they can take all the time they need considering it's already well under development. FYI i am NOT attacking the OP. Just my 2 cents. Purely opinion...
I've read some well thought out opinions and have decided that this thread is indeed irrelevant. I apologize as my main goal was to help out the developers
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What up y'all! I myself am a big fan of these here forums and the Android hacking community. I am a big tech nerd but when it comes to creating "development" yeah, not gonna happen! I want to put my part into the community and always have my phone glued to my hand so I figured I would throw it out there that I would like to be a tester for anything anyone needs tested! Current or future. I would love to help out and give my part to our community. PM me if anyone needs or knows one who needs a tester! Happy Modding!
My apologies if this is the wrong section...
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this isnt a hacking community.. its a development community.. im sure they have plenty of testers but always good to know theres guinea pigs lol
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Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
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