[Q] What kind of thread qualifies for general exactly??? - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just wondering really? they keep getting locked for off-topic, when general is a pretty wide topic... i would think anything pertaining to the epic that isnt a question or a development, should go there... maybe im wrong??

Exactly... moderators really need to do a MUCH better job at communication. I have sent PM's and do not get responses, so please explain moderators.

they only communicate by banning and closing threads.. theimpaler was one of the few mods here that could communicate... the rest put this place on auto pilot and ban/mod without reading or communicating and half the time without thinking...

Thank you
Thanks Chris for speaking up for the new people around. Means a lot
Dale

I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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JohnCorleone said:
I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.

thomasskull666 said:
Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.
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Hopefully the mods get this under control because we are losing some of our kindest and most helpful devs. Also, what the flamers fail to realize is they are only hurting the rest of the community because a lot of the developers, themers, and testers are just choosing to communicate via G-Talk anyway. Its truly sad that developers spend hours, days, and weeks of their free time, often working all night long to provide their great projects, and they seem to get less respect than someone who spreads nothing but negativity and provides no help whatsoever.
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superpaperman said:
+1, I'm a noob and I know that...
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Well welcome. You would be surprised by some of the things you see posted around here.
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Lets keep it in one place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177144

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Does anyone hate reading comments such as...

"Another update?? Getting tired of flashing...."
"Another leak, just flashed fcwhatever!!"
"Was just getting used to v1.3."
Is it hard to act grateful to devs work? Any devs want to comment and say yes these comments in every thread are fken annoying
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wp7chris said:
"Another update?? Getting tired of flashing...."
"Another leak, just flashed fcwhatever!!"
"Was just getting used to v1.3."
Is it hard to act grateful to devs work? Any devs want to comment and say yes these comments in every thread are fken annoying
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Sounds like your complaining... Yes, there are a few users that are having a hard time keeping up with all the leaks and updates.
I for one am not complaining about all these different ROMs, I am grateful for everything these devs have made possible for the community. Just because a new ROM is out that does not mean you have to be the first person to flash it just to be up to date. I'm still using FC22 as my daily driver, for some reason I still have FC07 modem no matter what I think of doing. Do you see me starting a new thread to cry about it? No.
Stop feeding the trolls and all the negativity in this community, if you want to do so then get another phone.
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Mattix724 said:
Sounds like your complaining... Yes, there are a few users that are having a hard time keeping up with all the leaks and updates.
I for one am not complaining about all these different ROMs, I am grateful for everything these devs have made possible for the community. Just because a new ROM is out that does not mean you have to be the first person to flash it just to be up to date. I'm still using FC22 as my daily driver, for some reason I still have FC07 modem no matter what I think of doing. Do you see me starting a new thread to cry about it? No.
Stop feeding the trolls and all the negativity in this community, if you want to do so then get another phone.
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Complaining? More like telling people to shut their faces unless they have something good to say. You have a disgustingly twisted idea of complaining, sounds like you're one of those trolls.
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Frequent updates is reason to applaud devs
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Someone needs a lesson in sarcasm. Of all the things you could get upset about on this site, you picked this?
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Complaining? More like telling people to shut their faces unless they have something good to say. You have a disgustingly twisted idea of complaining, sounds like you're one of those trolls.
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1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
Mods......please delete this useless thread.
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Mods......please delete this useless thread.
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In b4 lock...
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IB4L ... I see some people who are gonna end up in an Arizona prison before too long! lol
Rofl
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cnstarz said:
1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
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This type of language seems uneccessary
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cnstarz said:
1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
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You sir deserve a huge infraction for this response. It was completely unnecessary
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stargaterules said:
You sir deserve a huge infraction for this response. It was completely unnecessary
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I threw you a thanks ... not for anything you said in your post (which I also agree with), but because I agree, Stargate does in fact rule! lol
IB4L with nachos
I was especially impressed with the use of ****whore *****.
You know someone needs to create a sarcasm font, it could save a lot of misunderstandings.
No. Just hate ppl like you.
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cnstarz said:
1) yes, complaining. aka being a little ****whore ***** because people joke about having too much of a good thing.
2) you're an idiot who obviously has no insight into sarcasm whatsoever.
3) both of your posts in this thread contained zero good things to say, so please shut your face.
4) that's quite some audacity you have to call other people trolls when you're making threads like these.
not a single positive response in this thread, and someone even voted it a terrible thread. instead of continuing your little lonesome charade, you should instead try taking everyone's response for face-value and quietly shut the **** up and let this thread die.
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Wow
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Gordon Ramsay said:
No. Just hate ppl like you.
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Are you THE Gordon Ramsay???
Specialksg1 said:
I threw you a thanks ... not for anything you said in your post (which I also agree with), but because I agree, Stargate does in fact rule! lol
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LOL. Glad we're both on the same page. I think....
Lots of immature answers here. Can't wait to see more people get their honest opinions deleted while rampant boo-hooing and name calling continue.
yokken said:
Lots of immature answers here. Can't wait to see more people get their honest opinions deleted while rampant boo-hooing and name calling continue.
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Nope.
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peace out sea trout

SOOOOOOOOOO i got super drunk and lost my e4gt moved up to the gs3. Got a great deal on craigslist so had to do it better than a upgrade.
anyway just wanted to say peace to everyone and thanks!
ill still be supporting my heimdall one clicks in the dev section just pm me if you run into any problems. but it will be a bit harder now seeing as i dont have a e4gt.
once again thanks to you all and good luck!:highfive:
wow 3 good by threads in general i guess lotta people moving on
( even tho mine was forced by my drunken debochery)
Maybe we need a general goodbye and welcome thread.
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Yeah I think I was one of the first to post a good buy thread, but if you haven't noticed, all these threads labeled 'goodbye' are apparently being locked.
XDA is becoming big brother in censoring posts. First it's with goodbye threads, then it's with thanking our troops on Veterans day. What's next?
I wouldn't give this thread more then an hour or two before a moderator locks it as well. Apparently it appears to be a sign of the times.
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They seriously locked a thread thanking veterans?! If that's true, f%%ck you xda, you suck balls. No wonder this country is turning to sh&t.
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Thats how XDA rolls. Wanna see? Go here ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34024719
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I'm fine with the Goodbye threads being locked. A general welcome/goodbye thread is probably the best solution.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of goodbye threads. I think it's kind of a kick to the teeth to the people that still have the phone, even if that's not the intent. Plus, it clutters up the General forum.
Locking a thread supporting our troops shows that this moderater has no respect for his own family or friends that faught fornhis freedoms to be on XDA. Before anyone starts the nerd crap about the rules know that I dont care because the onley thing I care about right now is the men and woman who are in uniform or have been there that come to this site daily and make XDA a buck and I hope and really hope they delete my account I will not be back. Jay the one who locked the thread needs to be dropped in the middle of the war zone a few times. Suck my balls **** stick!
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Locking a thread supporting our troops shows that this moderater has no respect for his own family or friends that faught fornhis freedoms to be on XDA. Before anyone starts the nerd crap about the rules know that I dont care because the onley thing I care about right now is the men and woman who are in uniform or have been there that come to this site daily and make XDA a buck and I hope and really hope they delete my account I will not be back. Jay the one who locked the thread needs to be dropped in the middle of the war zone a few times. Suck my balls **** stick!
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It wasn't the mod's fault. Someone previously posted a comment that completely ruined any kind aspect the OP was trying to display towards veterans (Of all nations) to the extent that the moderated was forced to close the thread (He himself had posted thanks previously too)
Did you read the thread linked?
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Locking a thread supporting our troops shows that this moderater has no respect for his own family or friends that faught fornhis freedoms to be on XDA. Before anyone starts the nerd crap about the rules know that I dont care because the onley thing I care about right now is the men and woman who are in uniform or have been there that come to this site daily and make XDA a buck and I hope and really hope they delete my account I will not be back. Jay the one who locked the thread needs to be dropped in the middle of the war zone a few times. Suck my balls **** stick!
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XDA is not a forum about the USA Military, It's about smart phone/tablet development. If you post off topic, your thread will most likely get closed.
I reported your completely disrespectful post about a moderator who has done a pretty fine job of keeping this place clean.
Jay is definitely an XDA veteran that I appreciate. :laugh:
AirBruce said:
Yeah I think I was one of the first to post a good buy thread, but if you haven't noticed, all these threads labeled 'goodbye' are apparently being locked.
XDA is becoming big brother in censoring posts. First it's with goodbye threads, then it's with thanking our troops on Veterans day. What's next?
I wouldn't give this thread more then an hour or two before a moderator locks it as well. Apparently it appears to be a sign of the times.
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They seriously locked a thread thanking veterans?! If that's true, f%%ck you xda, you suck balls. No wonder this country is turning to sh&t.
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AirBruce said:
Thats how XDA rolls. Wanna see? Go here ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34024719
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cubez10 said:
Locking a thread supporting our troops shows that this moderater has no respect for his own family or friends that faught fornhis freedoms to be on XDA. Before anyone starts the nerd crap about the rules know that I dont care because the onley thing I care about right now is the men and woman who are in uniform or have been there that come to this site daily and make XDA a buck and I hope and really hope they delete my account I will not be back. Jay the one who locked the thread needs to be dropped in the middle of the war zone a few times. Suck my balls **** stick!
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Maybe if you guys would actually READ the thread and see instead of "OMG they locked a Vet thank you thread!!1!1 Let's rebel against XDA!!1!" You will see what happened. If you have any other further questions or attitudes I suggest you talk to me in pm.
And yes, this thread is closed also.

Bravia engine, what is it?

I've seen multiple references to it as well as downloads, can someone explain what exactly it's designed to do or if it's worth having? Thanks
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+bravia+engine
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spycedtx said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+bravia+engine
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:laugh:
Yeah uh thanks
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Even though we all know we can do a google search, we still get those people that like to waste time just to be funny....what a shame. Some people are able to provide better info just from having a first hand experience than what a google search might pull up.
Sorry dude that I am of no help, but I just wanted to say it sucks to not get an answer in a QUESTION & ANSWER forum.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/heres-what-sony-ericsson-mobile-bravia-engine-really-does-review/
It appears we ported some less than helpful folks from other areas.
The engine appears to make images crisper and add some clarity. Welcome to the forums and continue to ask good questions!
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/heres-what-sony-ericsson-mobile-bravia-engine-really-does-review/
It appears we ported some less than helpful folks from other areas.
The engine appears to make images crisper and add some clarity. Welcome to the forums and continue to ask good questions!
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Thank you very much for the useful info. Us noobs need our hands held sometimes and we need people like you. I hit your thanks button
thanks! yeah i was really looking for why it was used in the jedi rom and i saw people had asked in that thread and didnt see any answers, so i figured a new thread might get me somewhere. Unfortunately we'll always have dbags on the internet!
That was not intended to be funny or rude. Had the question been "is there a noticeable impact on performance one way or the other, and does gpu rendering do anything to help", that would have been a great question. A simple "what is", especially when one manages to find XDA, without having done some simple research that would have easily answered the question is something that will catch you flack on almost any forum.
I apologize if you found it rude, as it was assuredly less intended than some of the other responses.
Check out how many threads have topics as "wtf" or "help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". It helps everyone in the end if people ask better questions.
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Why is wild child jb rom locked?

Just noticed its been locked for ever... The one with jb aroma... What's wrong with it?
I haven't seen any of his work lately, just curious...
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I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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Noobiologist said:
I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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So is he banned now or something?
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So is he banned now or something?
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Yeah, probably. That's what usually happens.
Powered by the SGSIII
he's still deving
See note 2 development
I think he still devs for us, too
Just not that Rom
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Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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chrisram88 said:
Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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shahkam said:
He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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Im not against the rules or anything else Im sure they are helpful for the bigger picture.:cyclops: I am however stating its ironic that he did better with there stuff than they did. IMO when a dev does that its usually buggy or simply not as good , his roms were always up to date and he had stuff out much quicker than others.
At the end of the day everyone here is modding someone elses work to begin with so getting banned for using a modification to an open source or Samsung based software is just weird to me.
Isnt that why theres two dev forums to begin with ?
Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).
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He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy
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He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy
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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.
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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.
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Doesn't matter. You don't give credit you get banned. Thievery!!!!!!!:thumbup:
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Credit is the least he can ask. Do you know or even have an idea how long it takes to make a rom? De compiling recompiling apks tweaking smali. **** I tried to theme a couple pngs and 15 toggles and it took me a couple days just reading to figure out what to do! They have to edit a lot of files. It's long tedious work and they do it all for free!!
Regardless if it was based off Google code. They edited and made it unique. It is now theirs. For example for school you have to write a paper about Lincoln. You research about Lincoln and final write your paper. What your saying is that the paper you wrote is not yours because you pretty much just reworded facts you read online. (provided you didn't copy paste) the paper is now your own paper that you can claim rights too.
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not banned
WC has personal health issues and chose to close his public site for a bit. He has not been Banned and has some awesome new stuff for both the Htc Vivid and the new Htc One. He has been going through a lot and hopefully will be back up and running soon. Gary
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Woody said:
Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).
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To all devs

I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?
algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Very well said
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.
So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.

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