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Newly rooted I have a few questions....

I have just rooted my desire and flashed it with the VillainRom....
My questions are: I have enabled app2SD on most apps and thats great, but when I look at my internal memory through DiskUsage, It says I only have 157mb (Data) of space and thats taken up by the apps + system data that wont budge (adobe air etc)... Would taking off Stock apps increase this 157mb or would they too be stored in applications?
And why is there only 157mb available internal when you get 500mb?
Do widgets need to be kept on internal to stop them disappearing?
Sorry if my questions are obvious but I literally only looked into rooting a week ago so I am a proper noob!!

I also have the updating icon on virtually constantly.... is it a prob with the Rom or can this be fixed ?!

first of all do you have an ext partition? apps2sd wont work without one? also apps2sd only puts /data/app/ and the dalvik cache on your sd card, the /data/data directory remains on the device, thats why adobe air ect takes up so much space, removing stock apps wont free up any space as they are stored on the system partition, the desire dosent have 500mb of internal storage who told you that it might have 500mb of rom but thats a diff question.

AndroHero said:
first of all do you have an ext partition? apps2sd wont work without one? also apps2sd only puts /data/app/ and the dalvik cache on your sd card, the /data/data directory remains on the device, thats why adobe air ect takes up so much space, removing stock apps wont free up any space as they are stored on the system partition, the desire dosent have 500mb of internal storage who told you that it might have 500mb of rom but thats a diff question.
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Ok ignore the 500mb i don't know where i got that from lol!!! The rom has apps2sd enabled I thought thats all I needed? I am still having trouble fitting on all my apps !!
If I was to put a new rom on there can I just delete the zip after and delete the folder containing the old rom? Is titanium sufficient to use as back up if I was to put on a new rom ?! ---- Forget that just done nandroid backup just to be safe! Is the back up stored in clockworkmod?

ali_smooth said:
Ok ignore the 500mb i don't know where i got that from lol!!! The rom has apps2sd enabled I thought thats all I needed? I am still having trouble fitting on all my apps !!
If I was to put a new rom on there can I just delete the zip after and delete the folder containing the old rom? Is titanium sufficient to use as back up if I was to put on a new rom ?! ---- Forget that just done nandroid backup just to be safe! Is the back up stored in clockworkmod?
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if you pressing the move to sd option, in manage applications, thats not apps2sd , thats just the crappy move to sd option on froyo..... you need to partition your sd card with an ext 2/3/4 partition to enjoy apps2sd+ i assume the nandroid backup image is stored on you sd card .....

Nandroid backup stored on SD?? Is it under backup in the rom file or is it actually called nandroid?? I backed up through recovery ...
Man i need to do some reading lol.. thanks for helping... ill partition through rom manager once i know if I've backed up properly!!
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ali_smooth said:
Nandroid backup stored on SD?? Is it under backup in the rom file or is it actually called nandroid?? I backed up through recovery ...
Man i need to do some reading lol.. thanks for helping... ill partition through rom manager once i know if I've backed up properly!!
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ive never used a nandroid or any other kind of backup in my life lol i really should learn tho because its a pain setting up my rom everytime i flash

Your backups are stored under sdcard/clockworkmod/backup

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[Q] Flashing Roms

Since the is no sd card on this phone to save stuff on (i.e. pictures music, etc), when we flash a rom and have to do a wipe , do we lose all of our stuff?

Before you install a custom ROM, make a backup of your current ROM in Recovery. The phone uses built in storage instead of an SD card, but the process for backing up and restoring is the same.

sn0warmy said:
Before you install a custom ROM, make a backup of your current ROM in Recovery. The phone uses built in storage instead of an SD card, but the process for backing up and restoring is the same.
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ok do a backup in CWM ? so when I flash after the new rom is on , my folders and files will still be on the built in storage ?

Create a CWM backup and backup the apps you want on titanium. My suggestion for titanium, after you wipe let the market automatically restore your apps and use titanium to restore your data from the apps you want. Most everything like pictures and what's on your internal storage should still be there after wipe, but I would throw them on your laptop or wherever just in case.
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The phone does have a "sdcard." Just think of it as a irremovable 16 GB sdcard.
Everything else is the same.
Making a backup is optional, you can do it if you want. Or not do it.
You can always restore yourself back to stock using the stock images provided by Google (google it if you wish to find it).

Quick Question about TWRP?

OK, so backing up my current ROM, takes up alot of memory. I believe you don't have to backup
System
Data
Boot
Recovery
Cache
flexrom (another option to back up even tho i'm not using flexrom at the moment...kinda weird)
Isn't there only 3 of the above you only need to back up technically??
And is there anyway to automatically back up to my external sd card?
and restore from my external sd card?
Cause my internal memory is completely full, mostly from twrp backups it seems like
P.S. in the back up option why does it give me an option for flexrom? and i remember one time it was like over 1000 mb or something, now its only 4mb (currently on aokp)

trevor7428 said:
OK, so backing up my current ROM, takes up alot of memory. I believe you don't have to backup
System
Data
Boot
Recovery
Cache
flexrom (another option to back up even tho i'm not using flexrom at the moment...kinda weird)
Isn't there only 3 of the above you only need to back up technically??
And is there anyway to automatically back up to my external sd card?
and restore from my external sd card?
Cause my internal memory is completely full, mostly from twrp backups it seems like
P.S. in the back up option why does it give me an option for flexrom? and i remember one time it was like over 1000 mb or something, now its only 4mb (currently on aokp)
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For a minimal backup to restore you need system and data. Those are the big ones but also the two you need to restore at minimum. If you don't care about settings and apps backup only system.
I suggest at least one backup with recovery and boot just in case something goes wrong with either one.
Cache isn't needed as you should wipe it before booting a restore anyways.
In twrp go to mounts and check use external SD, it will stay that way unless you change recoveries or wipe cache.
I never backup flex unless its an Acer based rom.
You can also move the twrp folder to external SD and your current backups will be available when you switch twrp to external, and you can delete any unneeded backups.
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thanks button hit and wanted to say thank you in person or text or in forums, what ever you call it lol

Not able to restore my nandroids properly anymore

So here's my problem guys (bear with me here ! , it takes a lil explanation ) :
i've had my arc for almost a year now, i'm using link2sd with a 2nd partition on my sdcard for linking my apps to help free up some internal memory , i also use CWM "back and restore" frequently and this is how i do it :
as a full nandroid backup would take nearly 1Gb of storage , i instead backup only the system and data files(less than 400Mb), manually calculate the md5sum for it, and then resore it when i need , and it has worked for me till recently , now when i restore the backup, i only get the system settings and the apps on my internal storage, no sdcard apps and no linked apps (previously it restored everything properly) , so my question is :
is it a Rom or kernel related issue ??. is there a way to fix it ?? or do i have to do a full backup from now on ??
btw i'm currently using JJ'Hybrid and arknight kernel 3.3 RC.
i know it's a long one guys , so thanx in advance .

You'll need to backup data from sd or sd-ext, which would need a full nandroid backup. I found the best compromise to save space is to backup, rename the backup to id it(eg aokp4),copy it to my pc, and only keep the newest one on my sd card.

sinkster said:
You'll need to backup data from sd or sd-ext, which would need a full nandroid backup. I found the best compromise to save space is to backup, rename the backup to id it(eg aokp4),copy it to my pc, and only keep the newest one on my sd card.
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yeah i know, but that doesn't answer my question , why was it working before and now it's not , thanx anyway

[Q] How far does TWRP recovery backup alongside LINK2SD?

If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now

krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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Backup and restore do not touch your internal or external SDcard. So your files, apps, and folders remain untouched.

cam30era said:
Backup and restore do not touch your internal or external SDcard. So your files, apps, and folders remain untouched.
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yh I'm asking about the LINk2SD part. I couldn't find anything precise on google

krusion said:
yh I'm asking about the LINk2SD part. I couldn't find anything precise on google
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Don't know link2sd, but nandroid doesn't touch anything on sdcards. Might have to reestablish links, but probably not. Try it, won't harm anything.

krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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So long as you don't delete any of the data on the external card, then you should be fine. I've been using it this way on my phone for nearly 2yrs.
But my phone is jellybean based so you need to test it out if you are on a kitkat based rom.
**edit to add.. Thought I better add that I don't use foldermount or titanium.
My SD card is partitioned to have an ext4 partition for link2sd and a swap partition and Ofc the main partition.
I've just realised that you don't mention a partition for link2sd. Are you aware that you have to have a partition on your card for link2sd?
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whoamigriffiths said:
So long as you don't delete any of the data on the external card, then you should be fine. I've been using it this way on my phone for nearly 2yrs.
But my phone is jellybean based so you need to test it out if you are on a kitkat based rom.
**edit to add.. Thought I better add that I don't use foldermount or titanium.
My SD card is partitioned to have an ext4 partition for link2sd and a swap partition and Ofc the main partition.
I've just realised that you don't mention a partition for link2sd. Are you aware that you have to have a partition on your card for link2sd?
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I am aware i have to partition it for LINK2SD but I've no idea what the swap partition is for. I'm guessing if link2sd works then foldermount should too.
So what if this: i move my apps using link2sd then back up the nandroid. Then use a different rom and copy everything on my sd as it is to my computer. Then after i'm done with the rom, i restore and copy the stuff back onto the SD. Should that work? Or would the link be broken?
Thanks in advance.

So long as the data is intact, then you should * be fine. The link would be broken but generally you can just recreate the link. I think at one point I was running 4 backed up roms (2 roms and 2 pared down versions for benching) I would switch back and forth daily as I was a tester for 2 devs.
The Swap partition is just for low memory devices. It actually has no bearing on the subject. Just me waffling sorry
As I said earlier, you should make a nandroid before you make any alterations and then add each app/process and back that up too. Then test each change.
All the best rich
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You wouldn't a way that lets you remove TWRP and use the stock recovery would you?
Also a method to unroot so i can send it back to the store for any fixing?
And lastly how do I install the stock rom if i used any other rom? (Besides restoring the nandroid back)
So basically how do i unroot, install stock recovery and reinstall stock rom? For the v500
Thanks in advance and sorry for the noob questions. Still getting the hang of this.
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krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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have you found your answer? because I have the same question.
I link my app data and obb to the ext4 partion in my sd card using link2sd, also I backup my ROM using TWRP
So, if I restore will link2sd be able to link the app datas automatically?

kloroform said:
have you found your answer? because I have the same question.
I link my app data and obb to the ext4 partion in my sd card using link2sd, also I backup my ROM using TWRP
So, if I restore will link2sd be able to link the app datas automatically?
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I was try 2 metode restore nandroid with use link2sd..first i try to reformat ext4 partition before restore nandroid and the results of all applications that are already on the link gone..second I try to directly restore applications without reformatting the results are not lost but their application after the reboot error and application error ended up missing. it looks like the system ext4/link broken..so I must to clean flashing rom from the start otherwise the system will error. So if u want to backup nandroid u must unlink or move back to internal first for safety and reformat ext4 partition before u link app again

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