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T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 VS Unlocked Touch Pro 2?

Ok I have question... since rumors have it that the Touch Pro 2 will be coming to the states and to T-mobile, I'm assuming that it will have T-mobiles 3G band? Hopefully? If so, would that mean the unlocked versions of the Touch Pro 2 have the T-Mobiles 3G band as well or no? This is in the same boat as the G1 as I don't really need the data plan on the G1 but maybe occassional use with T-Zones. I was hoping that the Touch Pro 2 would be able to use T-Mobiles 3G and not be forced to have its own data plan.
Now lets say they make you have the data, could you flash the firmware and radio and that do anything? I heard that they can trace the phone via IMEI so if your using that T-Mobile branded phone, even though you have a different firmware and what not they would still be able to trace the phone via IMEI correct?
Ideally it'd be nice to have the Touch Pro 2 on T-mobile using 3G occasionally with T-zones but one can only hope...

Cheeze[iT] said:
Ok I have question... since rumors have it that the Touch Pro 2 will be coming to the states and to T-mobile, I'm assuming that it will have T-mobiles 3G band? Hopefully? If so, would that mean the unlocked versions of the Touch Pro 2 have the T-Mobiles 3G band as well or no? This is in the same boat as the G1 as I don't really need the data plan on the G1 but maybe occassional use with T-Zones. I was hoping that the Touch Pro 2 would be able to use T-Mobiles 3G and not be forced to have its own data plan.
Now lets say they make you have the data, could you flash the firmware and radio and that do anything? I heard that they can trace the phone via IMEI so if your using that T-Mobile branded phone, even though you have a different firmware and what not they would still be able to trace the phone via IMEI correct?
Ideally it'd be nice to have the Touch Pro 2 on T-mobile using 3G occasionally with T-zones but one can only hope...
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has it been confirmed that the touch pro 2 is coming to t-mobile, and also I doubt it will require a data plan because I think the iphone requires a data plan and that is for [email protected] and the fuze came to [email protected] and that didnt need a data plan i am pretty sure that no wm phone has ever requierd a data plan so I doubt this one will

awesome, well i hope thats true. it be good for it to have the 3G bands and not require a data plan, but something tels me that its not going to happen.

Cheeze[iT] said:
awesome, well i hope thats true. it be good for it to have the 3G bands and not require a data plan, but something tels me that its not going to happen.
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But no wm phone has ever required a data plan plus I htink [email protected] requires one for the iphone and then didnt reuire one for the fuze so its possible it wont I REALLY hope no data plan is required

Link278 said:
But no wm phone has ever required a data plan
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I don't know about your country, but I had to get data plan to be able to use e-mail and internet browsing.
T-Mo here also requires data plan to be able to use e-mail and browsing...

Bodisson said:
I don't know about your country, but I had to get data plan to be able to use e-mail and internet browsing.
T-Mo here also requires data plan to be able to use e-mail and browsing...
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you mean you couldnt even use wifi??

Yeah you can use wi-fi, but that is like being placed on an even tighter leash

Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.

gehzumteufel said:
Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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I've had eveything from the 8125 to the fuze and now the omnia and never had a data plan. I use wifi at all the place I need to go. Never saw the need to text, either. I needed a pda w/ word, etc., for editing, and tv-out for presentations and a phone as an add-on (no more laptop-- true convergence!) Too cheap for the data plans, when I don't need them. On ATT, BTW, hope they bring on the TP2

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Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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better than walking though isnt it?

Cheeze[iT] said:
Ok I have question... since rumors have it that the Touch Pro 2 will be coming to the states and to T-mobile, I'm assuming that it will have T-mobiles 3G band? Hopefully? If so, would that mean the unlocked versions of the Touch Pro 2 have the T-Mobiles 3G band as well or no? This is in the same boat as the G1 as I don't really need the data plan on the G1 but maybe occassional use with T-Zones. I was hoping that the Touch Pro 2 would be able to use T-Mobiles 3G and not be forced to have its own data plan.
Now lets say they make you have the data, could you flash the firmware and radio and that do anything? I heard that they can trace the phone via IMEI so if your using that T-Mobile branded phone, even though you have a different firmware and what not they would still be able to trace the phone via IMEI correct?
Ideally it'd be nice to have the Touch Pro 2 on T-mobile using 3G occasionally with T-zones but one can only hope...
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What is the 3g band for t-mobile? is it different from the one that AT&T uses?
curious as sometimes some phones say 3g compatible for the US and reading some previews show T-mobile is cooking its own 3g networks or so? Is the 3g band in the us : 850/1900 or 2100??
tahnks for clarifying

whatledog said:
I've had eveything from the 8125 to the fuze and now the omnia and never had a data plan. I use wifi at all the place I need to go. Never saw the need to text, either. /QUOTE]
Noob question here, never had a smartphone before....So if I buy the AT&T Fuze outright and get it unlocked I can use it for email and accessing free wifi at restaurants? What about the apps that stream free radio stations? I have a laptop too, really just want the Fuze for the convenience of being to check email and the web from time to time when I'm out and about.
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down with required data plans
gehzumteufel said:
Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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Yes, you do. If you have wifi virtually everywhere anyway, why pay an extra $30 per month for carrier data? That's the reason for so many years carriers insisted smartphones not have wifi built-in. They feared it would eat at their data profits.
Also, not everyone is going to have the same use pattern for TP2 that you might. Some people's uses for WinMo will be mostly offline.

fortunz said:
Yes, you do. If you have wifi virtually everywhere anyway, why pay an extra $30 per month for carrier data? That's the reason for so many years carriers insisted smartphones not have wifi built-in. They feared it would eat at their data profits.
Also, not everyone is going to have the same use pattern for TP2 that you might. Some people's uses for WinMo will be mostly offline.
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I mostly use mine offline also, but that doesn't detract from the fact that you can't even get a picture message without a data plan.
Also, I pay $20 a month for data and have for a while now. The data plan has only gone up $5. Also, I live in the most populace state in the US, and free WiFi is not available most places. So fail right there.

gehzumteufel said:
I mostly use mine offline also, but that doesn't detract from the fact that you can't even get a picture message without a data plan.
Also, I pay $20 a month for data and have for a while now. The data plan has only gone up $5. Also, I live in the most populace state in the US, and free WiFi is not available most places. So fail right there.
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Incorrect. You can still get messages, hell you can even use the internet without a plan, it just costs a lot more because your paying per KB rather than for a pool. At least that's how my plan works.

Are there any unlocked TP2 phones around???

1. As far as T-Mobile is concerned, data plan is not required on any phone except the G1 since it pings Google server all the time.
2. You do need a data plan if you want to get any rebate but you can cancel afterward.
3. There is no PPU data plan with T-Mobile therefore if you don't have a data plan, you could only use WiFi for data.
4. Finally, you don't need a data plan to get MMS. All you need is the correct MMS & WAP settings in your phone.
BTW, at least here in SoCal free WiFi hotspots are not available everywhere.

1700 band
Will it have the 1700 band for HSDPA and 3G? That is the question.

bachviet said:
1. As far as T-Mobile is concerned, data plan is not required on any BTW, at least here in SoCal free WiFi hotspots are not available everywhere.
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This. I can't stress enough, that most people (probably around 90%) aren't going to be around WiFi connections more often than not. So, I reiterate my statement about data-centric phones. Don't get them without data plans.
Lyian said:
Incorrect. You can still get messages, hell you can even use the internet without a plan, it just costs a lot more because your paying per KB rather than for a pool. At least that's how my plan works.
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False. My brother in-law has AT&T and he can not get MMS without data plan. You are correct about receiving MMS on T-Mobile though. You can receive, but not send them.
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Will it have the 1700 band for HSDPA and 3G? That is the question.
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HSDPA = 3g
Also, this such a dumb question. This is like asking if a Ford Mustang will come with a GM ECU. If it is branded for T-Mobile, it will have the proper bands.

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False. My brother in-law has AT&T and he can not get MMS without data plan. You are correct about receiving MMS on T-Mobile though. You can receive, but not send them.
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B.S. on this one. My wife's line never has any kind of data plan (using both T-Mobile branded and unbranded/unlocked phone) and she never has any problem sending/receiving MMS.

ATT GS3 requires data plan?

hey guys i got my GS3 about 3 months ago on ATT and im looking to get the NOTE 2 unlocked...i have my own plan on ATT and my family has a family plan on ATT but not using data/paying..im going to give my GS3 to them when i get the note 2..
do GS3 on ATT require data plans if i give it to them? i remember i gave my ATT iphone 3GS on my lil sis and i forgot that ATT will detect it and add a data plan..not sure if ATT will do the same if i give my GS3 to my family..
thanks

It most certainly will. The moment the SIM is registered on the network, AT&T, in their omniscience, will add the 30$ 3 gb / mo data plan...without consent. Their used to be a loophole with some old blackberries, but that has since been filled with gummy evils ported directly from the Death Star. Good luck.
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markysd said:
hey guys i got my GS3 about 3 months ago on ATT and im looking to get the NOTE 2 unlocked...i have my own plan on ATT and my family has a family plan on ATT but not using data/paying..im going to give my GS3 to them when i get the note 2..
do GS3 on ATT require data plans if i give it to them? i remember i gave my ATT iphone 3GS on my lil sis and i forgot that ATT will detect it and add a data plan..not sure if ATT will do the same if i give my GS3 to my family..
thanks
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Yea they definitely know the minute you put it in

Vuitres said:
It most certainly will. The moment the SIM is registered on the network, AT&T, in their omniscience, will add the 30$ 3 gb / mo data plan...without consent. Their used to be a loophole with some old blackberries, but that has since been filled with gummy evils ported directly from the Death Star. Good luck.
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oh bummer... thanks.. not sure if theres a way to unlock the GS3 ATT maybe that can solve data requirements
as for me going on a HSAP+ device will ATT mess with my data? i have unlimited data gradfather and i get 5GB till i get throttled..will ATT lower me to 3GB of data and throttle me when i hit 3GB? i normal use under 5GB of data a month but i did get throttle once on LTE to see how it was and it was not fun.. i remember there was a way to re set up from LTE to HSAP+ but im not sure if ATT will make me go to 3GB throttling with a unlocked device

markysd said:
oh bummer... thanks.. not sure if theres a way to unlock the GS3 ATT maybe that can solve data requirements
as for me going on a HSAP+ device will ATT mess with my data? i have unlimited data gradfather and i get 5GB till i get throttled..will ATT lower me to 3GB of data and throttle me when i hit 3GB? i normal use under 5GB of data a month but i did get throttle once on LTE to see how it was and it was not fun.. i remember there was a way to re set up from LTE to HSAP+ but im not sure if ATT will make me go to 3GB throttling with a unlocked device
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Unlock will not solve problem. I try this on my phone.
About data you need to call and tell att you want to keep your data. Also if you have old sim card you need new one to phone receive data.( applay to iphone4/4gs sims too)

You don't necessarily need a new SIM, LTE capable SIM cards are backward compatible, but 3G Sims do not work in 4g LTE devices. As for your unlimited, he's right, you must call ATT and have them manually add it. While they cannot force migrate you, they will certainly claim an inability to readd it back on once they change it away. Don't let them fool you, they are more than capable to add it back on the account if they can ascertain the presence of the unlimited data plan prior to a device change. Just be diligent and you will get it back. DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO CONVINCE YOU TO MIGRATE! The moment you consent to the change, they will not, under any circumstances, put it back.
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They will take the plan off if you use no data but whoever has the phone will have to contact att every month because att will just tack the plan back on
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The only other way to do this is to take data off completely on that line. I have kids and we have unlimited text, so I called ATT and had them remove data completely from their lines. They had phones that did not require data. They cannot get pictures texted to them, otherwise they can call and text all they want and I dont have to worry about them killing me on data. I have swapped one kid to a SG1 I got from a friend and they did not do anything with data, if you say this is a minor and I want data off, its off. They use wifi if at home or school and they are fine. I do not think there is any other way you can get away with this.

Forgot to mention that my Lil sis is using a GS1 with no data plan I remember they went to att and got it to that set up and they got hooked up from the att manger... So if I give my gs3 to my sis they will still have to call and let att know that she's using a gs3 and keep the same plan she has with no data.. I believe her plan has 600mins/5000 nights weekend with unlimited text with mms /talk unlimited mobile to mobile..
As for me is just straight up put my 4G LTE att sim on my note 2 and put the lte apn settings and good to go?
Thanks guys :highfive:

[Q] I am looking to get solavei and would love a few questions answered if possible

I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.

mitul2288 said:
I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.

mrchris1234 said:
I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?

Jinra321 said:
When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).

mrchris1234 said:
Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?

Jinra321 said:
Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.

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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I did the same thing, my sponsor let me use his IMEI just to get the sim, and then once we liked the service, my wife used his sim for her own note 2.
As for question number 3, they do have a plan that doesn't have any cap, but I believe it's $89 per month.

mrchris1234 said:
I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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Awesome, I am glad you like it. I was hoping to use my phone to download .nzb movies while on the go and use it as my main internet line via tethering. That is where I came up with the 20-30 gb figure.
Would solavei throttle me or block my account if I use that much data?

Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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jacky37 said:
Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint

mitul2288 said:
dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Nope, sprint doesn't throttle at all, although it's hard to find a place with LTE or WiMAX which means, you'll be stuck on their 3G at best.

mrchris1234 said:
Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...

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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Got MMS working?

[Q] Just rooted , no internet

Hi,
I just rooted my new Note 2 and it went smoothly thanks to all the information I read here. However, I have no internet connection now. I'm not saying that rooting had anything to do with it; I probably didn't have it before. Where in the phone's settings do I check to make sure internet is enabled? I found in the "settings" screen how to turn on Wifi and bluetooth but I didn't see anything for internet.

1. Settings. 2. More Settings. 3. Mobile networks. 4. Mobile data.
Make sure it's checked.
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1. Settings. 2. More Settings. 3. Mobile networks. 4. Mobile data.
Make sure it's checked.
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Yeah, its checked.
On the status page it says my network type is HSDPA:9 I switched simm cards because my old phone used the larger one. Is it p[ossible that the phone is trying to use LTE and my unlimited data plan is not LTE and that is causing the problem? How do I get to the screen that tells me the WAP I'm uisng? My old simm card (VERY oold) was from cingular so maybe that setting is wrong too. Just throwing things out here. Not really sure what is relevant and what is not.

What's your APN settings? (Last picture)
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What's your APN settings? (Last picture)
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APN says "phone"
MMSC http://mmsc.att.net
MMS port 80
MCC 310
MNC 410
APN type default.mms.supl
APN protocal IPv4
APN enabled
I am unable to edit the access point settings. Is this normal?
Edit. I added a WAP for cingular.com that I found in the thread about "how to get around throttling" and it seems to be working. I guess that means I'm still on some low speed plan. I'll test it later and see how slow it is.
The default AT&T WAP is still not working though.
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Just downloaded the speedtest app and I get 1900 kb download speed. So I'm still 3g. Should I call AT&T to get them to change my phone account to LTE or is there someother way I can get my AT&T WAP setting to work and that will enable the higher speed of LTE?

how did you get a new smaller sim card for the new phone?
When I got a new sim the guy at AT and T said something about if I didn't get LTE showing up in a minute or so after booting my new note 2, that he would have to put my IMEI number in the computer. We were holding off because I was buying a Note 2 outright and also had a Note 2 in the midst of an insurance claim and we didn't want to switch the number and risk screwing up the insurance claim

livingaboard said:
how did you get a new smaller sim card for the new phone?
When I got a new sim the guy at AT and T said something about if I didn't get LTE showing up in a minute or so after booting my new note 2, that he would have to put my IMEI number in the computer. We were holding off because I was buying a Note 2 outright and also had a Note 2 in the midst of an insurance claim and we didn't want to switch the number and risk screwing up the insurance claim
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The AT&T guy asked if I had a new phone and I said no because I didn't want to get switched off of my unlimited plan. I might have been being paranoid but I figured worst case I could always go back later and say I upgraded phones if I need them to do something to enable high speed.
To get the new smaller sim I just told them I was going overseas for a big and would be using a smaller sim so I had purchased an adaper and I wanted to use a smaller sim so I could keep the adapter in my phone. I got the idea from one of the threads here. Again, maybe paranoid but the idea of paying $50 a month for 5-10 gb of data with thrattling does not appeal to me.
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if i'm understanding your delima - which was similar to mine - att needs to flag your account for LTE access and that's it. no plan switching, etc. i have 2 lines, one with a grandfathered unlimited LTE data plan and one with the the $50/5GB plan. the main differences between the unlimited and 5GB plans are: i get throttled after using 3 GB on the unlimited plan (vs. 5GB plan) and i cannot (legally) tether on the unlimited plan (like i can with the $50 plan). i've been throttled twice on the unlimited plan, but only after exceeding 4 GB.

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The AT&T guy asked if I had a new phone and I said no because I didn't want to get switched off of my unlimited plan. I might have been being paranoid but I figured worst case I could always go back later and say I upgraded phones if I need them to do something to enable high speed.
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All you need to do is call customer care (611) and ask them to update the imei on your line so they can add the lte feature code. The system won't allow an lte phone to connect to data unless the imei/feature is correct. HSPA will keep working, so if there's no lte in your area it doesn't really matter. You won't lose your unlimited data plan unless you give up data completely, want tethering, or switch to a mobileshare plan. If you keep that feature though, you'll be throttled at 3gb's, whereas you'll get 5gb's on the lte feature.
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G3 Hotspot.

Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!

Osseon said:
Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!
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Works just the same as any other device for me, been using it a lot for my chromebook had no dropouts or issues.

Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.

partylikeaninjastar said:
Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.
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Should work out of the box like any android phone

Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.

Protagoras said:
Should work out of the box like any android phone
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But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?

partylikeaninjastar said:
But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?
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Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.

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Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.
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Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.

sykozylot said:
Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.
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This is why I need to know how native tethering works on a G3.

Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.

Dubhar said:
Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?

partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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What provider are you using?

partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Unless your using some carried modified version of the G3 it should be under the settings menu as "tethering & networks"

partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Yes, that's correct.

Osseon said:
Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.
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Damn, that's serious (mobile) data! No, FP would be just to get you connected, not an all-you-can-eat buffet. (I used it as backup on the road, but their coverage around me sucked)