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As title says, have Samsung announced any further updates yet? I'm still on stock 4.02 and don't want to flash custom roms. Surely some updates most be coming soon, my mate pushed me to get the nexus as it gets all the updates first but only had 1 since launch and getting a bit impatient!
Yeah, every Android phone and tablet shown off at MWC seems to have at least Android 4.0.3 on it.
Google seems to have stopped the rollout of 4.0.2 again. Coincidence or not, there have been no more regional OTA updates since the Google Wallet security issues hit the media. Until all the 4.0.1 people get their update I wouldn't expect any further rollouts.
Very disappointing that other devices are on 4.0.3, yet the flagship Nexus is behind.
I cannot recall this ever happening in the past.
Yeah, disappointing, but I try to view the positive side of this.
1. Google isn't rushing out updates that are not ready. Quality control is always better than fast buggy garbage. I really don't care if I get it 'first' as long as I get it.
2. It is great that a few manufacturers and carriers were on ICS so quickly. It is a great precedent for Asus and others to set for the industry and it will benefit adoption of Android in the future.
I believe only three devices officially have 4.0.3..
The transformer prime and the Xoom I believe had full roll outs
The Nexus S 4.0.3 roll out was halted..
Sure phones at MWC have it but they are a few months from release in most cases
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So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.
blame the carriers.
andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic
Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.
just use a custom rom!
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.
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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.
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With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!
I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.
I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.
By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.
I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.
Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.
Guys, do you guys have any idea, or what do u guys thing , is GNEX getting the key lime pie upgrade?
yes we will. we will get it slightly after google i/o.
If we do...eh good I guess. If we don't, too bad
Yes.
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I doubt it, supporting old phones is rarer than finding 1000$ on a hotdog these days
I think jb is the last official update for the gnex
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im sure we will. gnex is not that old. if not an official update, many custom roms will appear thanks to our devoted and skilled devs.
Well not that old cos It's still a good device that provides great user experience. I agree but when we're talking about such fast developing technology and update policy two years means a lot!
As far as I remember Google hasn't officially announced devices to get KLP yet so we can just speculate. But I wouldn't be much surprised if we didn't get it.
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I doubt it, supporting old phones is rarer than finding 1000$ on a hotdog these days
I think jb is the last official update for the gnex
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lol wat
The phone is ****ing 1 good year old.
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lol wat
The phone is ****ing 1 good year old.
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Gnex was released october 2011 iirc, that makes about 1,5 years, by the time android 5.0 comes the Gnex will almost be around for 2 years, yes.
Non-google phones of that age have been supported. There's more reason to thingk the GNex will be included than not.
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The Nexus S got Jelly Bean, I see no reason why the G Nex wouldn't get KLP
Didn't Google promise to support nexus devices over at least a set month period? Around the time ICS came out I want to say they said 18 months, or maybe more. Even if they don't, we will see ROMS worked up for them. And if you look at the old nexus devices, updates didn't happen due to hardware limitation. Unless they got some new feature that demands a hardware feature be on the phone and we don't have it, I doubt they will stop updating us.
In terms of CPU/GPU GNEX is unfortunately not even close to 2012 flagships (not to mention 2013 beasts). I am not saying that our TiOMAP won't be able to handle KLP but it can be used as an excuse. I hope not.
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In terms of CPU/GPU GNEX is unfortunately not even close to 2012 flagships (not to mention 2013 beasts). I am not saying that our TiOMAP won't be able to handle KLP but it can be used as an excuse. I hope not.
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If your correct that means that KLP couldn't run on most mid end devices.
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If your correct that means that KLP couldn't run on most mid end devices.
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I am not saying anything. I've no idea about KLP's requirements. No idea what google decides either. We're all just speculating here. I was basically trying to figure out a possible excuse not to give us KLP. And CPU/GPU is GNexus' weakest side comparing to 2012 and newer handsets. That's all.
* In 2012 HTC One S with S4 Krait was also considered a mid end device.
It may or may not come out for our devices, technology advances pretty quickly, if we get it, good, if not, too bad, Google did not owe us anything.
Which would you prefer to get from Sammy as new version? A upcoming version of Android 4.4 KitKat or Last of the Jellybean kind the almighty Android 4.3..
Really curious to see that ya guys thinking.
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Which would you prefer to get from Sammy as new version? A upcoming version of Android 4.4 KitKat or Last of the Jellybean kind the almighty Android 4.3..
Really curious to see that ya guys thinking.
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Telstra Australia posted that their version of the N2 would be skipping 4.2 and going directly to 4.3; supposedly because that's Samsung's approach globally. Since the N3's on 4.3, and the majority of S Pen apps are probably common with the N2, you could probably assume the N2's skipping 4.2. As for timing, you could probably assume the N3 will be on the market for a couple of months before the N2 receives its 4.3 update. That would allow the N3 some feature exclusivity before the N2 gets whatever common features Samsung's planning to port down.
As for 4.4, Google's reached a new low. Taking money for commercially endorsing a Nestle product (Kit Kat) by naming an Android version after it is proof that monetization now trumps all. Perhaps Key Lime Pie will now be named Marie Callender's or Swanson's Key Lime Pie. As for timing, who the hell knows. Everyone thought the new N7 was going to be the launch for 5.0 and it got 4.3 which was less an upgrade than a fix for 4.2.2. Anyone care to take a guess what's going to be in 4.4 and why a major point release (5.0) is so long in coming? As Google's focus becomes more monetary and their scale continues to grow the quality, timing, and substance of Android releases/updates is becoming more sketchy.
All just my opinion of course
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There was no money exchange in this deal. Read before you form an opinion. Google did it for the lulz and Nestle agreed as it was a free commercial. The article is on the BBC site.
Do you really think Google would have any reason to accept some crummy product placement for the money , how much would Nestle have to pay them for it to register in the companies budget.
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@BarryH_GEG
There was no money exchange in this deal. Read before you form an opinion. Google did it for the lulz and Nestle agreed as it was a free commercial. The article is on the BBC site.
Do you really think Google would have any reason to accept some crummy product placement for the money , how much would Nestle have to pay them for it to register in the companies budget.
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So you think it's all just some lucky accident for Nestle? Google's need for monetary growth makes the potential millions they'd receive from anyone for "product placement" quite attractive. If Nestle's not paying cash I'd bet Google's receiving some type of non-cash consideration. If you're right though what a great day it is for Nestle; one of the largest food conglomerates in the world. Sorry, I don't believe that "Kit Kat" was just Google being random and that Nestle won the lottery.
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@BarryH_GEG
There was no money exchange in this deal. Read before you form an opinion. Google did it for the lulz and Nestle agreed as it was a free commercial. The article is on the BBC site.
Do you really think Google would have any reason to accept some crummy product placement for the money , how much would Nestle have to pay them for it to register in the companies budget.
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Doing it for the lulz? Google is a company not a charity
I'm still hoping its a joke and google will surprise us all with Key Lime Pie
Announcing the new codename and version even before the release is so not google
I started to hate that new guy they hired over from Chrome OS project
What we know for a fact is: we won't get 4.2.2, will jump directly to 4.3, but the update will only come after the Note 3's launch. So expect it around November/December.
Now, the newly announced 4.4 is another thing altogether. An older Sammobile leak informed that the Note II would receive the next version of Android (then rumored to be 5.0 Key Lime Pie). We'll have to wait and see if Samsung ends up porting the Note III version of this release to our phone. Only time will tell on this one.
I am waiting for Android 4.4.23 DönerKebab.
I can't wait 6.3 Toblerone 2017.
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I can't wait 6.3 Toblerone 2017.
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Too unstable for me, maybe 5.9 Spinach... Healthy and yummy
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6.1 Snickers all the way for me!
So all of you are making up names, Why Marie or Swanson? If the Android is being named after desserts in an alphabetical order, the next one should start with an L.
Key Lime Pie was acceptable because K and L are present in order. The "P" wasn't, maybe the leak was true so they changed because of the P?
Can't wait to get my hands on Kit Kat and go to about>Android Version, and keep touching it, maybe a Kit Kat will hover from the screen and we eat it?
Hope for 4.3 is good. But official 4.4 update will come after note6 release , as update rollout by samsung sucks
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Don't need either one.
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we will get 4.3 confirmed at unpack note 3 event , will be on october for note 2 and S3
my take on this..
why wouldn't samsng release 4.2.2 or 4.3??
possible reasons :
sales of note 3 will go down.
also it will take down s3, s4 .
and they cant afford "S" series loss because that is samsung's flagship device not note series.
they have to give some excuse so that we wait for it and get less features (look at s3 's leaked fw).
if touchwiz wasnt ready then how come s3 and n7108d got 4.2.2 ..??? and we don't.
may be we get 4.2.2 first then next updates but won't get 4.4 until next year for sure.
its not even considered that note 3 also gets updated to 4.4 yet so forget about it and use the beast for next six months atleast whatever we have.
P.S. look at n7108d got 4.2.2 officially so it will go 4.2.2 to 4.3 to me not 4.4 till next year.:angel::angel::angel:
imho samsung don't upgrade note II to kitkat.. but xda help us
When android goes full circle back to the lettrr A I hope to see android 10.4 APPLE
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Ur note 2 will have the same fate like our notes u have to wait for 4.3 until note 3 makes a million mark. Or people wont buy the new note rather will go for a note 2 with 4.3 plus by the time kitkat will come there will be an s5 and samsung have 3 first priority products to upgrade first and the note 2 will be the last to get the updates. This is marketing. This is what samsug does but in the end they give the most finished update any other vendor can just think of.
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Is it true that note2 will skip an update again & go straight to 4.4 til next year? Im glad note2 will receive an update
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Is it true that note2 will skip an update again & go straight to 4.4 til next year? Im glad note2 will receive an update
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If true then we can't use Samsung GearWatch this year
It's already been out for 6 hours, when will we get 4.4.3... Samsung? HELLO?
2 weeks
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4.4 havent been rolled out to all countries yet and already shouting for 4.4.3? HELLO?
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you're right =)).
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It's already been out for 6 hours, when will we get 4.4.3... Samsung? HELLO?
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Very soon my Brother.
At least a month prior to S5 getting its 4.4.5 updates.
Chainwater said:
Very soon my Brother.
At least a month prior to S5 getting its 4.4.5 updates.
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At which time Android 5.0 (Creampuff) will be out.... :silly::laugh:
Since the majority is still waiting for 4.4.2, I suppose may 2015
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dt33 said:
4.4 hasn't been rolled out to all countries yet and already there's shouting for 4.4.3? HELLO?
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Well, we have it in the US, I'm sorry your country doesn't, but don't begrudge us because we have it After years of having to wait on other countries, particularly Europe for the latest and greatest in mobile gear and software, it's kinda nice for a change to be on top over here
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Well, we have it in the US, I'm sorry your country doesn't, but don't begrudge us because we have it After years of having to wait on other countries, particularly Europe for the latest and greatest in mobile gear and software, it's kinda nice for a change to be on top over here
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I live in Sweden and 4.4 NEE SMP605 was released first of all countries? ?
Mine point is, all these threads about when will we get 4.4, than it released and peoples wants 4.4.3.
Sure next thread is about when do we get android 5.0 when 4.4.3 release for Note 2014. ?
Galaxy Note SM-P605
By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3 :victory::highfive:
It comes when it comes whatever it shall be. In the meantime there is a life to be led.
HAHAHAHA~
Thinking too much,guy...I think it well go Android4.5,maybe call Lollipop
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At which time Android 5.0 (Creampuff) will be out.... :silly::laugh:
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Why does this name (Creampuff) give me an idea of fart after anal sex?
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Why does this name (Creampuff) give me an idea of fart after anal sex?
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Cos the idea we'll get Android 5.0 on the Note 10.1 2014 is a load of fragrant hot air?
Now waiting for 4.4.4..
Come on Samsung, don't keep us waiting.
4.4.3 is just a very minor bug fixing update from 4.4.2. At least we got Kit kat with an updated Samsung skin on top as well. That's honestly a much bigger deal than getting 4.4.3. Now all we need is a stellar ROM packed with some nice tweaks and features. The upcoming Hyperdrive ROM by Sbreen looks to be it.
They'll probably skip 4.4.4 and just go to 5.0.2 in December. Hopefully there's a maintenance update to fix the video bugs in 4.4.2.
Why shouldn't we expect Updates
>>By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3
Why shouldn't we expect updates. If I buy a laptop with windows I get updates (in the case of my old xp machine for over 10 years) granted my hp or dell support has long since lapsed but I can still update the operating system for bug fixes and enhancements ect..
If I buy an iPad I get updates in the case of my wife for over 4 years now.
So My question is why should Samsung or the android tablet market function any differently?
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>>By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3
Why shouldn't we expect updates. If I buy a laptop with windows I get updates (in the case of my old xp machine for over 10 years) granted my hp or dell support has long since lapsed but I can still update the operating system for bug fixes and enhancements ect..
If I buy an iPad I get updates in the case of my wife for over 4 years now.
So My question is why should Samsung or the android tablet market function any differently?
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Iphone 3GS/4/4S and Ipad 2//3 did get updates to iOS6/7, probably iOS8/iOS9 too.
Did all these got all new features and works flawless with new updates? Siri was left out on IP4.
Go google on how it worked and u got u answer.
Samsung, like almost all manufacturers, for almost all devices, uses to provide a single major update, and that was Kitkat. LG seems to be special. They can manage to provide two dozen "micro updates", seemingly only fixing baseband issues affecting operation with certain providers in certain countries. No fix list, but that was the purpose of Nokia updates in the past.
My LG L9 got an update from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2 one and a half years ago, from v10x to version v20a. This went up to v20p since, and there was never the slightest noticeable difference. Even a small wifi bug remains present since v20a.