Which would you prefer to get from Sammy as new version? A upcoming version of Android 4.4 KitKat or Last of the Jellybean kind the almighty Android 4.3..
Really curious to see that ya guys thinking.
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Which would you prefer to get from Sammy as new version? A upcoming version of Android 4.4 KitKat or Last of the Jellybean kind the almighty Android 4.3..
Really curious to see that ya guys thinking.
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Telstra Australia posted that their version of the N2 would be skipping 4.2 and going directly to 4.3; supposedly because that's Samsung's approach globally. Since the N3's on 4.3, and the majority of S Pen apps are probably common with the N2, you could probably assume the N2's skipping 4.2. As for timing, you could probably assume the N3 will be on the market for a couple of months before the N2 receives its 4.3 update. That would allow the N3 some feature exclusivity before the N2 gets whatever common features Samsung's planning to port down.
As for 4.4, Google's reached a new low. Taking money for commercially endorsing a Nestle product (Kit Kat) by naming an Android version after it is proof that monetization now trumps all. Perhaps Key Lime Pie will now be named Marie Callender's or Swanson's Key Lime Pie. As for timing, who the hell knows. Everyone thought the new N7 was going to be the launch for 5.0 and it got 4.3 which was less an upgrade than a fix for 4.2.2. Anyone care to take a guess what's going to be in 4.4 and why a major point release (5.0) is so long in coming? As Google's focus becomes more monetary and their scale continues to grow the quality, timing, and substance of Android releases/updates is becoming more sketchy.
All just my opinion of course
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There was no money exchange in this deal. Read before you form an opinion. Google did it for the lulz and Nestle agreed as it was a free commercial. The article is on the BBC site.
Do you really think Google would have any reason to accept some crummy product placement for the money , how much would Nestle have to pay them for it to register in the companies budget.
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@BarryH_GEG
There was no money exchange in this deal. Read before you form an opinion. Google did it for the lulz and Nestle agreed as it was a free commercial. The article is on the BBC site.
Do you really think Google would have any reason to accept some crummy product placement for the money , how much would Nestle have to pay them for it to register in the companies budget.
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So you think it's all just some lucky accident for Nestle? Google's need for monetary growth makes the potential millions they'd receive from anyone for "product placement" quite attractive. If Nestle's not paying cash I'd bet Google's receiving some type of non-cash consideration. If you're right though what a great day it is for Nestle; one of the largest food conglomerates in the world. Sorry, I don't believe that "Kit Kat" was just Google being random and that Nestle won the lottery.
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@BarryH_GEG
There was no money exchange in this deal. Read before you form an opinion. Google did it for the lulz and Nestle agreed as it was a free commercial. The article is on the BBC site.
Do you really think Google would have any reason to accept some crummy product placement for the money , how much would Nestle have to pay them for it to register in the companies budget.
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Doing it for the lulz? Google is a company not a charity
I'm still hoping its a joke and google will surprise us all with Key Lime Pie
Announcing the new codename and version even before the release is so not google
I started to hate that new guy they hired over from Chrome OS project
What we know for a fact is: we won't get 4.2.2, will jump directly to 4.3, but the update will only come after the Note 3's launch. So expect it around November/December.
Now, the newly announced 4.4 is another thing altogether. An older Sammobile leak informed that the Note II would receive the next version of Android (then rumored to be 5.0 Key Lime Pie). We'll have to wait and see if Samsung ends up porting the Note III version of this release to our phone. Only time will tell on this one.
I am waiting for Android 4.4.23 DönerKebab.
I can't wait 6.3 Toblerone 2017.
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I can't wait 6.3 Toblerone 2017.
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Too unstable for me, maybe 5.9 Spinach... Healthy and yummy
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6.1 Snickers all the way for me!
So all of you are making up names, Why Marie or Swanson? If the Android is being named after desserts in an alphabetical order, the next one should start with an L.
Key Lime Pie was acceptable because K and L are present in order. The "P" wasn't, maybe the leak was true so they changed because of the P?
Can't wait to get my hands on Kit Kat and go to about>Android Version, and keep touching it, maybe a Kit Kat will hover from the screen and we eat it?
Hope for 4.3 is good. But official 4.4 update will come after note6 release , as update rollout by samsung sucks
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Don't need either one.
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we will get 4.3 confirmed at unpack note 3 event , will be on october for note 2 and S3
my take on this..
why wouldn't samsng release 4.2.2 or 4.3??
possible reasons :
sales of note 3 will go down.
also it will take down s3, s4 .
and they cant afford "S" series loss because that is samsung's flagship device not note series.
they have to give some excuse so that we wait for it and get less features (look at s3 's leaked fw).
if touchwiz wasnt ready then how come s3 and n7108d got 4.2.2 ..??? and we don't.
may be we get 4.2.2 first then next updates but won't get 4.4 until next year for sure.
its not even considered that note 3 also gets updated to 4.4 yet so forget about it and use the beast for next six months atleast whatever we have.
P.S. look at n7108d got 4.2.2 officially so it will go 4.2.2 to 4.3 to me not 4.4 till next year.:angel::angel::angel:
imho samsung don't upgrade note II to kitkat.. but xda help us
When android goes full circle back to the lettrr A I hope to see android 10.4 APPLE
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Ur note 2 will have the same fate like our notes u have to wait for 4.3 until note 3 makes a million mark. Or people wont buy the new note rather will go for a note 2 with 4.3 plus by the time kitkat will come there will be an s5 and samsung have 3 first priority products to upgrade first and the note 2 will be the last to get the updates. This is marketing. This is what samsug does but in the end they give the most finished update any other vendor can just think of.
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Is it true that note2 will skip an update again & go straight to 4.4 til next year? Im glad note2 will receive an update
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Is it true that note2 will skip an update again & go straight to 4.4 til next year? Im glad note2 will receive an update
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If true then we can't use Samsung GearWatch this year
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Sweet!
Just a rumor though. Hopefully it's true! And usually Sammobile is very accurate.
**Credit to rwilco12 for finding this**
Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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With our phones, it's not just up to Samsung. Qualcomm (because of CDMA tweaks) and Sprint are also involved in producing the ROMs.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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Sprints s2 aka the epic touch 4g hasn't got jellybean 4.2 yet... i have both phones
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Um ok, GS3 already has jellybean and GS2 has had multiple jellybean leaked roms so we know they are working on it. Keep in mind the cdma GS2 was just released for Boost and Virgin Mobile within the past couple months and has not been put on end of life by sprint yet, so it is still receiving support funding for software updates.
Also if you were familiar with the update life cycle of top tier samsung phones on sprint e.g. The GS1 & GS2 you would see 2 full years of android version upgrades is the norm not the exception. Look for the GS2 to get 4.1.2 and be EOL end of this year, and the GS3 to get its final update next year and EOL end of next year.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Samsung like to update their U.S phones with the latest features after the launch It's newest flagship. So, after the GS4 is available in the US that's when we'll see an update.
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Honestly, as far as Carriers go, I believe Sprint is the best when it comes to OS updates. AT&T probably comes in second. And I'm basing this off carrier-specific phones, not international devices on GSM carriers.
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint was bought by Softbank by the way. They have mass amounts of money to spend. And they are not 4th in profits. Basically your whole statement is false. http://allthingsd.com/20130318/hesse-masayoshi-son-met-with-fcc-to-pitch-softbank-sprint-deal/
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I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this. Every Galaxy S phone has been updated to two major versions of android.
Galaxy S (eclair) - froyo and gingerbread
GSII (gingerbread) - ICS and jelly bean
It only makes sense that that the gs3 would get the same treatment and be updated to Key Lime Pie when it's only had one major update (jelly bean)
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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Liquid Smooth all the way. No bugs what so ever. Running 4.2.2
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I respectfully disagree. After looking at the specs for the s4, I think most people will probably hold out for the S 5. It looks like some minimal hardware upgrades and mostly software upgrades, which I believe the s3 will handle very easily. just my humble opinion though
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We'll have to wait an see. Would rather get one that is tested and none to work then see them push to release one that is buggy.
Hopefully 4.2 comes to the us galaxy s3 none of them got premium suite update feature just the 4.1.2 that's all
It could also be that Samsung, not the carriers, puts the brakes on the S3 in favor of selling (forcing) the S4. Like when Moto stopped supporting the Photon (then a flagship device) within 6 months in order to sell more new "flagship devices" rather than update existing usable consumer products. Consumers who bought into the "latest,greatest" Moto had to offer at the time thinking they would be good for at least a couple years of contract.
It's a double edge sword where someone is going to get cut, no matter if it's from the carrier who doesn't want to spend the money to add their junk, or the manufacture who doesn't want to update "old" products.
With the devices of today, and the power they have, I see the trend moving more and more to the rooting/dev. arena to make existing devices more usable for longer periods of time.
Tech is so far advanced that now, within the terms of a typical 2 year contract, not much can be added to make a consumer justify the cost unless they just HAVE to be "better" than anyone else.
Having said that, the easiest way to continue new sales is to stop developing/supporting "older" devices.
Every time I buy a new phone with the latest Android on it, they release a new android a few weeks later. ..4.3 had only been out a short time and barely no phones have it.. And now there's 4.4....pissed....
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We won't see it for months
NOTE 3
You wanted Samsung to delay the Note 3 release so they could put 4.4 on it? dafuq
If you want the latest android updates fastest buy a nexus device
I was on the same upset mood as you with android. However, with the note 3, I have no complain anymore. I haven't had any lag at all since purchase a month ago. It has all the features you need and more. I can finally stop chasing newest and greatest device/software with the note 3.
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Yup, and that's the choice you have to make when buying a non-Nexus device. Either put up with the outdated stock ROMs or switch to AOSP-based ROMs like Cyanogen, then you will have the latest and greatest. Samsung likely won't put out a 4.4 ROM till sometime in the spring.
I knew there would be a post like this, and I thought about doing it (sarcastically)...
...Face it, anytime you buy a new android phone, at most the new android version is maybe a year away, no matter what phone you get... (unless nexus) there is going to be a period of time where you dont have the latest and greatest software...
...but, it has been floating around that AOSP roms are in the process of being brought to note 3 (I think by cyanogenmod) and once the first (not to buggy) one comes out, the offshoots wont be far behind (PA/AOKP/carbon *my fave*) now, of course we dont know for sure if any of those will ever come to note 3, but more than likely pa and aokp will (I would think) and it just a matter of time.
so, there is hope for 4.3 (aosp) and 4.4 coming to our note 3 before samsung even gets a chance...
Now this is where it gets really interesting, samsung and HTC are trying to one up each other, or at least that is how it seems to me, and htc said that the HTC ONE will have 4.4 within 90 days... and that phone is much older than the note 3. so hopefully for once sammy will try to beat them to the punch.
Im sure that at SOME point note 3 will have kit kat, just a matter of time.
Oh, and this is what samsung has to say about 4.4 right now
btw, I kind of feel the same way, but its not like it wasnt expected. cant be mad about something you basically knew was going to happen.
my hope is that samsung will do the google play note 3 thing, but with the spen being the "main" feature of note 3, and google play edition would cut that out, its highly unlikely that would happen, but one can dream
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You wanted Samsung to delay the Note 3 release so they could put 4.4 on it? dafuq
If you want the latest android updates fastest buy a nexus device
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cant tell if man wearing sunglasses or hand holding cell phone... *squint*
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I knew there would be a post like this, and I thought about doing it (sarcastically)...
...Face it, anytime you buy a new android phone, at most the new android version is maybe a year away, no matter what phone you get... (unless nexus) there is going to be a period of time where you dont have the latest and greatest software...
...but, it has been floating around that AOSP roms are in the process of being brought to note 3 (I think by cyanogenmod) and once the first (not to buggy) one comes out, the offshoots wont be far behind (PA/AOKP/carbon *my fave*) now, of course we dont know for sure if any of those will ever come to note 3, but more than likely pa and aokp will (I would think) and it just a matter of time.
so, there is hope for 4.3 (aosp) and 4.4 coming to our note 3 before samsung even gets a chance...
Now this is where it gets really interesting, samsung and HTC are trying to one up each other, or at least that is how it seems to me, and htc said that the HTC ONE will have 4.4 within 90 days... and that phone is much older than the note 3. so hopefully for once sammy will try to beat them to the punch.
Im sure that at SOME point note 3 will have kit kat, just a matter of time.
Oh, and this is what samsung has to say about 4.4 right now
btw, I kind of feel the same way, but its not like it wasnt expected. cant be mad about something you basically knew was going to happen.
my hope is that samsung will do the google play note 3 thing, but with the spen being the "main" feature of note 3, and google play edition would cut that out, its highly unlikely that would happen, but one can dream
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We won't see 4.4 til next year. Maybe January-February. Samsung is still going to be pushing the Note 3, since their "curved display" phone won't have similar specs of the note 3 anyways. Note 3 and S4 will see the updates first of course...
You dont buy samsung note devices for the quick updates, you buy them for their originality and beast like specs/software. If your looking for updates go with the nexus line otherwise you only have yourself to blame.
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THIS IS TRUTH......... The other thing I find amusing is 4.4 is not that much different than 4.3 I have played around on my tablet with it and TBH...... I would not get that excited about it. :cyclops:
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You don't buy Samsung note devices for the quick updates, you buy them for their originality and beast like specs/software. If your looking for updates go with the nexus line otherwise you only have yourself to blame.
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Only thing I can say is HTC {and Motorola}stepping up there game ..hopefully will put a fire under Samsung.
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I can't find the source but I read that the S3/S4/Note2/Note3 will be getting 4.4 in November because they want to ensure compatibility with their new watch.
Dumbest first world problem ever. Note3 has been out a month and 4.4 has been out 2 days of which I don't even know if source has been released yet. Imagine the horror if Samsung released the Note3 with 4.2.2!
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Dumbest first world problem ever. Note3 has been out a month and 4.4 has been out 2 days of which I don't even know if source has been released yet. Imagine the horror if Samsung released the Note3 with 4.2.2!
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True. Just for clarity though, source is available from news reports anyway. I haven't tried to sync it. Also, I expect Samsung has access to pre release source along with moto, HTC, and other partners.
Honestly though, 4.4 doesn't bring a ton. These days, new point releases of Android aren't nearly as big a deal as they used to be. I'll likely give it a try once builds are available, but I'm quite happy with the version on the note 3. I would like to see all the manufacturer's up their game though, if for nothing else than security patches. There's no excuse for the "master key" patch taking as long as it did to get released. And that's equally on the carriers.
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You dont buy samsung note devices for the quick updates, you buy them for their originality and beast like specs/software. If your looking for updates go with the nexus line otherwise you only have yourself to blame.
Sent from my note 2 ya bish!
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Absolutely true! If I wanted the latest Android, I wouldn't buy such a heavily skinned device like the Note! The GS4 might see KitKat before spring, but if the Note does before next Christmas I'll be very pleasantly surprised.
It's already been out for 6 hours, when will we get 4.4.3... Samsung? HELLO?
2 weeks
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4.4 havent been rolled out to all countries yet and already shouting for 4.4.3? HELLO?
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you're right =)).
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It's already been out for 6 hours, when will we get 4.4.3... Samsung? HELLO?
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Very soon my Brother.
At least a month prior to S5 getting its 4.4.5 updates.
Chainwater said:
Very soon my Brother.
At least a month prior to S5 getting its 4.4.5 updates.
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At which time Android 5.0 (Creampuff) will be out.... :silly::laugh:
Since the majority is still waiting for 4.4.2, I suppose may 2015
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4.4 hasn't been rolled out to all countries yet and already there's shouting for 4.4.3? HELLO?
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Well, we have it in the US, I'm sorry your country doesn't, but don't begrudge us because we have it After years of having to wait on other countries, particularly Europe for the latest and greatest in mobile gear and software, it's kinda nice for a change to be on top over here
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Well, we have it in the US, I'm sorry your country doesn't, but don't begrudge us because we have it After years of having to wait on other countries, particularly Europe for the latest and greatest in mobile gear and software, it's kinda nice for a change to be on top over here
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I live in Sweden and 4.4 NEE SMP605 was released first of all countries? ?
Mine point is, all these threads about when will we get 4.4, than it released and peoples wants 4.4.3.
Sure next thread is about when do we get android 5.0 when 4.4.3 release for Note 2014. ?
Galaxy Note SM-P605
By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3 :victory::highfive:
It comes when it comes whatever it shall be. In the meantime there is a life to be led.
HAHAHAHA~
Thinking too much,guy...I think it well go Android4.5,maybe call Lollipop
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At which time Android 5.0 (Creampuff) will be out.... :silly::laugh:
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Why does this name (Creampuff) give me an idea of fart after anal sex?
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Why does this name (Creampuff) give me an idea of fart after anal sex?
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Cos the idea we'll get Android 5.0 on the Note 10.1 2014 is a load of fragrant hot air?
Now waiting for 4.4.4..
Come on Samsung, don't keep us waiting.
4.4.3 is just a very minor bug fixing update from 4.4.2. At least we got Kit kat with an updated Samsung skin on top as well. That's honestly a much bigger deal than getting 4.4.3. Now all we need is a stellar ROM packed with some nice tweaks and features. The upcoming Hyperdrive ROM by Sbreen looks to be it.
They'll probably skip 4.4.4 and just go to 5.0.2 in December. Hopefully there's a maintenance update to fix the video bugs in 4.4.2.
Why shouldn't we expect Updates
>>By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3
Why shouldn't we expect updates. If I buy a laptop with windows I get updates (in the case of my old xp machine for over 10 years) granted my hp or dell support has long since lapsed but I can still update the operating system for bug fixes and enhancements ect..
If I buy an iPad I get updates in the case of my wife for over 4 years now.
So My question is why should Samsung or the android tablet market function any differently?
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>>By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3
Why shouldn't we expect updates. If I buy a laptop with windows I get updates (in the case of my old xp machine for over 10 years) granted my hp or dell support has long since lapsed but I can still update the operating system for bug fixes and enhancements ect..
If I buy an iPad I get updates in the case of my wife for over 4 years now.
So My question is why should Samsung or the android tablet market function any differently?
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Iphone 3GS/4/4S and Ipad 2//3 did get updates to iOS6/7, probably iOS8/iOS9 too.
Did all these got all new features and works flawless with new updates? Siri was left out on IP4.
Go google on how it worked and u got u answer.
Samsung, like almost all manufacturers, for almost all devices, uses to provide a single major update, and that was Kitkat. LG seems to be special. They can manage to provide two dozen "micro updates", seemingly only fixing baseband issues affecting operation with certain providers in certain countries. No fix list, but that was the purpose of Nokia updates in the past.
My LG L9 got an update from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2 one and a half years ago, from v10x to version v20a. This went up to v20p since, and there was never the slightest noticeable difference. Even a small wifi bug remains present since v20a.
Since this is first samsung device which i own, i dont know which sites to follow for informations.
So i would be thankfull if anyone can say, will this tablet get lollipop treatment.
I dont want to be dissapointed because its new, 3-4 months old tablet.
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will this tablet get lollipop treatment.
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Who knows? We don't even know if our devices will get an official 4.4.4 let alone 5.0.
Samsung won't ever give you confirmation of something like an upcoming update as usually their support desks seem to know so little that you may as well ask the man in the moon.
CM12 will bring AOSP Lollipop, but it's still work in progress
hundred_miles_high said:
Who knows? We don't even know if our devices will get an official 4.4.4 let alone 5.0.
Samsung won't ever give you confirmation of something like an upcoming update as usually their support desks seem to know so little that you may as well ask the man in the moon.
CM12 will bring AOSP Lollipop, but it's still work in progress
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So that means no high hope for update. I guess this will be my first and last device from them. Thank you for answer
electrash said:
So that means no high hope for update. I guess this will be my first and last device from them. Thank you for answer
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I wouldn't give up hope just yet (Lollipop hasn't been out for long), but neither would I be holding my breath for an update either.....
Samsung has to integrate TouchWiz and do a lot of quality testing , if they released an unstable or unsecured release of Lollipop it would cause more problems and customers as they have a reputation to keep, if you look at Samsungs line of products maybe only one or two products actually have Lollipop, as they are probably slowly testing feedback and bugreports, if they just recklessly just throw an update to every-device it would cause havoc
If I had to guess I would say sometime next year (probably within the first 3-4 months) this tablet will get a update.
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Samsung has to integrate TouchWiz and do a lot of quality testing , if they released an unstable or unsecured release of Lollipop it would cause more problems and customers as they have a reputation to keep,
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This is what they should be doing, but if you look at this years 4.3 Jellybean release for Galaxy S3 they appeared to have done none of it. Also, just read this morning that the Note 4 will skip straight to 5.0.1 - so they're probably not going to waste much time porting many more snapdragon devices to 5.0, which could mean an even longer delay.
Please excuse my cynicism, I've been a Samsung customer for too long....
electrash said:
Since this is first samsung device which i own, i dont know which sites to follow for informations.
So i would be thankfull if anyone can say, will this tablet get lollipop treatment.
I dont want to be dissapointed because its new, 3-4 months old tablet.
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I'm guessing May or June of 2015 for Android 5.x and that will be the last update. I really hope they get Lollipop on the Note 10.1 2014, which is more important to me than my tab pro 8.4.
hundred_miles_high said:
Who knows? We don't even know if our devices will get an official 4.4.4 let alone 5.0.
Samsung won't ever give you confirmation of something like an upcoming update as usually their support desks seem to know so little that you may as well ask the man in the moon.
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by using your logic, the galaxy s5 hasnt got 5.0, because it hasnt got 4.4.4 too
timuralaskara said:
by using your logic, the galaxy s5 hasnt got 5.0, because it hasnt got 4.4.4 too
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Say what?
Where did i say that one was dependent on getting the other?
By my logic Samsung haven't confirmed one or the other - not the next incremental revision, let alone the next version.
From past experience they are unlikely to respond fully to enquiries about what updates are due and remain very non commital at the best of times.
pretty straight forward to understand......
Lollipop 5.0.2. just started rolling out to the Tab S series:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/23/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4-gets-the-lollipop-update/
Hopefully it's not that big a leap to get out the Tab Pro series as well. I don't think the differences were anything radical....
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Lollipop 5.0.2. just started rolling out to the Tab S series:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/23/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4-gets-the-lollipop-update/
Hopefully it's not that big a leap to get out the Tab Pro series as well. I don't think the differences were anything radical....
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I saw on one site that whole pro line will get lollipop 5.0.2 very soon.
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Samsung Lollipop update uncertainties
I was about to buy a Galaxy Tab Pro (3 actually) but this whole Lollipop update thing has given me cold feet. I'm going to stick with iPads. I just don't like the feeling they're withholding OS updates in order to drive new (Galaxy Tab S2) hardware sales. I always felt that was happening with Windows and PC hardware vendors and I ended up buying a Mac because of it (and never looked back).
Good luck guys and may all your Lollipops be as fruity as an Apple.
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I was about to buy a Galaxy Tab Pro (3 actually) but this whole Lollipop update thing has given me cold feet. I'm going to stick with iPads. I just don't like the feeling they're withholding OS updates in order to drive new (Galaxy Tab S2) hardware sales. I always felt that was happening with Windows and PC hardware vendors and I ended up buying a Mac because of it (and never looked back).
Good luck guys and may all your Lollipops be as fruity as an Apple.
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Well hello mr apple troll. You do realise ios updates can take ages also? having owned 5 ios devices from iphone 1 to ipad 1 to ipad air 2 etc. Apple also hold update releases until the next new product generally "the best thing yet since.." enjoy your limited ios device. For me it's Android
Definitely not a troll !
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Well hello mr apple troll. You do realise ios updates can take ages also? having owned 5 ios devices from iphone 1 to ipad 1 to ipad air 2 etc. Apple also hold update releases until the next new product generally "the best thing yet since.." enjoy your limited ios device. For me it's Android
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I work for a Google school and I think that's just about the biggest vote of platform confidence anyone can give. We do need at least one new Android tablet to test Appinventor Apps and we will buy. However, KitKat has been a frustration. Not being able to capture direct to MicroSD for example is unforgivable in the modern OS era. Lollipop promises to fix a great many KitKat issues and I think the HARDWARE partners like Samsung have a responsibility to get the customer base past KitKat ASAP.
I do not know what you mean when you say: "Apple holds update releases". But if you are suggesting that Apple only applies software updates to ONE generation of hardware you are totally wrong. I have an iPad 2 which has now had 5 different iOS iterations from iOS4 to iOS8 and is now possibly 3x better than the already excellent device I originally purchased. I've never had to even wait extra time because it's an older device. I want this for Android as well! and I reserve the right to put as much pressure as I can to make the hardware vendors give it to us. Let's not forget the damage platform fragmentation does to the Android developer community. It's in the best long-term interests of all hardware partners to keep as many of us as possible on the newest version of Android but they are not walking the walk. We need to encourage them.
My intentions are good, peace out.
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I was about to buy a Galaxy Tab Pro (3 actually) but this whole Lollipop update thing has given me cold feet. I'm going to stick with iPads. I just don't like the feeling they're withholding OS updates in order to drive new (Galaxy Tab S2) hardware sales. I always felt that was happening with Windows and PC hardware vendors and I ended up buying a Mac because of it (and never looked back).
Good luck guys and may all your Lollipops be as fruity as an Apple.
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Funny that I can't update my GFs macbook past osx 10.7 because 'it's too old' when it more than meets requirements.
No need to shill here.
Give me a break!
Swizzy88 said:
Funny that I can't update my GFs macbook past osx 10.7 because 'it's too old' when it more than meets requirements.
No need to shill here.
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Well, the youngest that MacBook could possibly be is October 2008! Unfortunately it's a 32bit machine which is just a different technology generation. It is a bit of bad luck though. I have a MacBook Pro from Mid 2007 that's running the very latest Yosemite OS just fine. It's pretty amazing when an 8 year old computer just keeps getting better and better for free. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. Screenshots of the system profile can be posted if you have doubts.
I don't know why people are trying to argue this, it's a simple fact that Apple are just better in updates than Samsung will ever be. The main reason for it is that it's easy for Apple to support since they make their own hardware and software that doesn't run on thousands of devices like Android. Samsung should still try to do a better job at updating. I don't like how they didn't even say whether the Tab Pros will get Lollipop or not, even though they were released only a few months before the Tab Ss (which did get Lollipop) and are just as powerful (they use the same chips).
Regardless I myself am gonna flash CM12 on my Pro 8.4 because I don't know if Samsung ever intend on giving us the update we deserve and regardless I am tired of TouchWiz.
Well one thing Android will have that Apple never will, is Android IS OPEN SOURCE and also Samsung is pretty good in releasing the source code for its products and kernels, meaning even if they don't release an update for a specific device it can still be supported by 3rd party firmwares or if you want to compile it yourself. - let's see someone do that with Apple.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception.do
You don't think Apple has IOS 8 or 9 in the works? if it was Open Source like Android then Apple users would be doing the same thing begging for the update, but since Apple is closed source you don't hear about it until they tell you.
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Also I still think the Tab Pro series will still get an update , I think Samsung owes at least one major version update being it was released at nearly the same time as the Tab S - I am suspecting it will be next in line for the lollipop update - considering its the Pro series line it might need more security and testing then the S series does.
lollipop update for tab pro.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-1-Lollipop-Update-is-coming-by-Early-Q3-2015
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I Not being able to capture direct to MicroSD for example is unforgivable in the modern OS era. Lollipop promises to fix a great many KitKat issues and I think the HARDWARE partners like Samsung have a responsibility to get the customer base past KitKat ASAP.
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3rd party apps not being able to write to the SD card is a deliberate security decision. However, it is easily overridden by an app from the Play Store. Search for "sdfix". BTW, it is also needed in lollipop so waiting for 5.1.1 won't help.
Anyone have any new info on us getting Lollipop? Info on Google is slim.
My guess is spring or summer time. If we see any leaks then that means it should come a month or two after the leak. Its just a guessing game for samsung
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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When we start seeing exynos variants getting 5.0 we know we will be getting closer.
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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Im pretty sure were gonna get the update. If some other tablets like the tab 4 are gonna get them, the we should get them too. The tab s is samsungs flagship right now i think
lartomar2002 said:
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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I don't know about sales figures but I've read quotes from Samsung in various articles stating the the Tab S was a high priority to get an early update. After all, It is still their flagship tablet at the moment.
Rage1ofakind said:
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
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My point being too that was that, Samsung have released the final version of their lollipop update. So in terms of major software tweaks, that's done . If that makes sense lol
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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That's true. But I'd rather have an update that improves my device rather than slowing it down.
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Honestly I think ios users have the opposite problem . Apple keeps trying to update their old devices to the latest ios. The iPad 2 has no business running ios 8. Making ios 8 run on old devices just make them slow and piss people off and then they accuse Apple of making their device slow on purpose to force them to upgrade. Of course if Apple does not support old hardware then it's "abandoning" them.
But yeah no excuse for not having lollipop on the flag ship device already . It's not like Google just dropped lollipop on people out of the blue. you had betas and previews. If cyanogenmod, which as far as I know is not a multi billion dollar conglomerate, can support a bunch of devices then so can Samsung.
Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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I do also have note 3 and tab s. I installed the leaked lolipop for note 3 and I can say that lolipop is worth waiting a few more months. It's nice, clean, works well. Maybe lolipop will resolve some of our problems with tab s. My guess is that will be no lolipop update till begening of march for the tab S because we do jot have any leaked firmware for exynox yet.
I hope it never gets it. Lolly pop ruined my nexus 10, broke WiFi and sent me shopping for a new tablet. Loving my tab s running 4.4.
2 q 2015
according to this article 2 quarter 2015
://technosamigos.com/samsung-android-5-0-lollipop-update/
Hopefully xposed will become working on art before getting lollipop :good:
regards
LTE edition is on Q2, means after April, this is long wait!
By the way, I am waiting for my Note 4 as well.
What to do, just wait wait wait...
Our tablets still work fine, and the rest of the community can catch up, so let's not be so first world about it.
Goog news for Tab S Owners? Reliable source?
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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http://www.jbgnews.com/2015/01/sams...oid-lollipop-5-0-to-roll-out-soon/021215.html
Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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Hmm "upcoming days or few weeks"
They have absolutely no idea of when it's coming... That's a bs article.