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[Q] one more confused soul..Xperia S or Ion

Hello friends,
I own a Xperia Arc S and would like to upgrade. But not shure whether to get ion or xperia s
Xperia S have good ROM support over here but kinda looks thick compared to Ion maybe coz of curved shape.(after owning arc s everything seems to look fat )
Xperia Ion has bad ROM support but looks are better than Xperia S ( according to me)
So i need your help guys in deciding.
I went through many threads but couldnt find my answers.
Any help is appreciated
Thank You

arpith.fbi said:
Hello friends,
I own a Xperia Arc S and would like to upgrade. But not shure whether to get ion or xperia s
Xperia S have good ROM support over here but kinda looks thick compared to Ion maybe coz of curved shape.(after owning arc s everything seems to look fat )
Xperia Ion has bad ROM support but looks are better than Xperia S ( according to me)
So i need your help guys in deciding.
I went through many threads but couldnt find my answers.
Any help is appreciated
Thank You
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Xperia S !!
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I went with ion yeah it has lack of rooms right now but you can still root and have fun with it just as u can with the S, but like they say you can't go off wat people want u to get u gotta get wat u want, different strokes for different folks
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arpith.fbi said:
Hello friends,
I own a Xperia Arc S and would like to upgrade. But not shure whether to get ion or xperia s
Xperia S have good ROM support over here but kinda looks thick compared to Ion maybe coz of curved shape.(after owning arc s everything seems to look fat )
Xperia Ion has bad ROM support but looks are better than Xperia S ( according to me)
So i need your help guys in deciding.
I went through many threads but couldnt find my answers.
Any help is appreciated
Thank You
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Go for Ion :good: and I'll happily welcome you to the family bro
and also,the ion is lacking of custom ROM and custom kernel because most of the Xperia ion user have the at&t version (Lt28at),some got Rogers version and international version (both are Lt28i) and some got Lt28h (without LTE,like me in my country lol xD )

thanks for replying guys...in what terms ion is better than xperia S?

arpith.fbi said:
thanks for replying guys...in what terms ion is better than xperia S?
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Larger screen, SD card.
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jeriku said:
Larger screen, SD card.
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+ Much longer battery life

UchihaDareNial said:
+ Much longer battery life
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Not with lte. Xperia s has better battery life anyways.
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[Q] Xperia acro s vs Xperia T

I need device with good camera, loud speaker, good volume in calls, battery life. there is no difference for me if it is water proof or not. the only 2 device that i can choose are xperia T or Xperia Acro S. what would u recommend?

Go for X T
Mine is X Acro S but I m thinking to upgrade to Xperia T
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Xperia T.
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why should i buy the T? what are the adventages over the Acro s?

neoxkid said:
why should i buy the T? what are the adventages over the Acro s?
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Well I choose xt over acro s bcoz of big screen, good processor, design, & most important jb 4.3 update in near future
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Ashu1307 said:
Well I choose xt over acro s bcoz of big screen, good processor, design, & most important jb 4.3 update in near future
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^^^ Answer.
Acro S is forgotten by SONY...

cities516 said:
^^^ Answer.
Acro S is forgotten by SONY...
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what about the hardware differences?

Clearly,Xperia T is superior than Acro S...but the T have some kinda 'washed off' screen based of users comparison...Acro S does have a great waterproof,but much older spec...
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neoxkid said:
what about the hardware differences?
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Well X Acro s has snapdragon s3 processor on the other hand XT has Snapdragon s4 plus, so definitely XT has better specs , both have 1 gb ram as well as 16 gb internal storage, but T has a 13 MP camera
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Ill be very honest. I have a ion and my wife has a T. There are no speed differences at all. Actually i prefer the ion due to not having the on screen buttons. The T does have a better speaker tho, her music sounds really nice. Otherwise even tho the T has the better processer, there no different.
Dont even talk about benchmarks as they mean nothing in day to day use and how the phone feels.
Im not familiar with the acro s....but isnt it similiar to the ion in terms of specs?
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Ashu1307 said:
Well X Acro s has snapdragon s3 processor on the other hand XT has Snapdragon s4 plus, so definitely XT has better specs , both have 1 gb ram as well as 16 gb internal storage, but T has a 13 MP camera
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And the camera is no better than the ion and the S. Mp dont mean anything.
In fact some of my test shots showed the ion was better while other shots the t was better.
But neither proved enough difference for it to matter.

Jelly Bean 4.4 For Sony Xperia S

What do you think are the chances are of Sony releasing jb 4.4 for our devices I mean our devices would be more than enough to handle it.
What do you guys think?
Would it still be possible even though Qualcomm has stopped support for S3 snapdragon chipsets?

None!
Simple as that...
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Android_UK said:
What do you think are the chances are of Sony releasing jb 4.4 for our devices I mean our devices would be more than enough to handle it.
What do you guys think?
Would it still be possible even though Qualcomm has stopped support for S3 snapdragon chipsets?
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i think the same,there are no chance of getting android 4.4 kitkat.at the most we may get 4.2 or 4.3 jelly bean but there are only 2% chances :fingers-crossed: lets hope for the best.but we may get the taste of android 4.4 by great xda developers with less feature that depend on any new type of hardware

That's the weird thing 4.2 & 4.3 are said to be more hardware intensive than 4.4 and it is most unlikely we will get them for our devices.
Yet a lot of websites mention its likely that 4.4 will hit the Xperia family including the S.
What is also been said is 4.4 will or has been designed to run on aged out devices from:
512 RAM
Single low clock speed processors
And our phones come in the mid range of the Xperia family.
Which exceed the suggested minimum basic specs nneeded.
I wish Sony could just say yes or no wether it was possible as I don't want to upgrade as its only been 6 months since I got this device it's ggood but I was surprised how quickly this was shunned and newer devices came out from Sony.

When I see Z1 released with 4.2.2, 4.4 for XS is just a dream.
Sony must sell Z1 as new flagship and it certainly won't update and support 2011/12 device anymore.
I would like that, of course but that won't happen.
I'm trying to find unlockable Z1 in Croatia - I really like that device.
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I'm thinking the 4.1.2 update was the last one.
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funky0308 said:
When I see Z1 released with 4.2.2, 4.4 for XS is just a dream.
Sony must sell Z1 as new flagship and it certainly won't update and support 2011/12 device anymore.
I would like that, of course but that won't happen.
I'm trying to find unlockable Z1 in Croatia - I really like that device.
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Off-topic:
Some reviews said the screen is really bad, maybe you should wait for the next flagship from Sony..
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Official noway
Cyanogenmod... maybe
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there's rumour about Z1 will get 4.4 in november
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_rumored_to_get_android_44_update_in_november-news-6942.php
if that's true then great, finally sony updates the device quickly
this is a good sign, cause I still want sony for my next device
but for XS... I don't think so
just hope with rayman in the CAF kernel.. but it will not come soon.. and you ask too early
Many website said for 4.4 is just false rumour

lordanas59 said:
Off-topic:
Some reviews said the screen is really bad, maybe you should wait for the next flagship from Sony..
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Hmm...
Screen isn't really bad it's great HD screen but some users reported that they have that stupid yellow tint over screen.
And that's extremely annoying from Sony.
I'll buy it but only and if I can check it first (I already arranged that).
There's great little piece of software for screen testing so I'll use that.
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yes yes. its just a dream. will not came

Well letama may make a 4.4 build for xperia s
And xperia s isnt slow, stock rom its self is heavy, roms like cm10 are rocket fast on xperia s
We may just get 4.4 if we ask letama or raymanFX kindly
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you will receive even 5.0 if came out.. But stability may be problem.
Anyway, i am on the way to upgrade to Z1.

I believe 4.4 will come some time later.
Some expert in XDA will make it. But Sony wont
remember snapdragon has stopped supporting s3 cpu that's why there's no kernel for jb 4.2 and 4.3
yeah experts in XDA are making it now but i dont think sony cares about it
Our lovely Xperia S is now an orphan. Only users care about it
The performance can definietly do 4.2 4.3 or 4.4, but sony just want us to buy new phones

I saw this in some site.. Can someone translate this.. I think we may get 4.4.. :silly:

Just look on the side of picture (Right) which phones will get it
edit: Sorry i missread.
Ignore this post.

happy
i see S and sl
unless it doesnt say thay

sudhindrakv said:
I saw this in some site.. Can someone translate this.. I think we may get 4.4.. :silly:
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It said "Can upgrade Kit Kat 4.4"..
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kumbangdesa said:
It said "Can upgrade Kit Kat 4.4"..
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So it wont...
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I hope that xs gets 4.4 otherwise im going to beat up 4.4 source code till it works on xs
Anyway i dont blame sony for wanting money
Currently sony mobile hates sony entertainment
They keep blowing their money
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[Q] Would you like CyanogenMod on Xperia M?

While visiting family over Christmas I had a lot of time to relax and be merry. But being away from my usual assortment of computers and gadgets that keep me occupied, I also had a lot of time with not much to do.
I also noticed that Xperia M forums are really quiet, so after our 'traditional' fried fish and potato salad I used nothing but my Nexus tablet to create a very basic CyanogenMod repo.
I quickly learnt that doing dev work on a tablet is really hard. I was just about able to create a few basic files and copy over content I know will be the same on my other Xperia device.
However if I'm to continue, I need to know how many of you want this. Xperia M has all the right hardware to run Android 4.4 KitKat, but if nobody uses this phone, then why bother?
P.S. Don't forget the poll above!!

This would be good for devs to start and produce custom Roms as there is very little development, yes there are kernels available but need a good base and cyanogen mod would be fantastic and I'm pretty sure all users of the M would really appreciate it I know I would and 4.4 would be fantastic
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Yes bro we want cyanogenmod for this device.... will poll when I am on PC .... And bro there are lot of xperia m users
And please tell me that you own this device
We have no developers...
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adfad666 said:
While visiting family over Christmas I had a lot of time to relax and be merry. But being away from my usual assortment of computers and gadgets that keep me occupied, I also had a lot of time with not much to do.
I also noticed that Xperia M forums are really quiet, so after our 'traditional' fried fish and potato salad I used nothing but my Nexus tablet to create a very basic CyanogenMod repo.
I quickly learnt that doing dev work on a tablet is really hard. I was just about able to create a few basic files and copy over content I know will be the same on my other Xperia device.
However if I'm to continue, I need to know how many of you want this. Xperia M has all the right hardware to run Android 4.4 KitKat, but if nobody uses this phone, then why bother?
P.S. Don't forget the poll above!!
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Bro now we have Cm11 alpha version...so it will be great if you can look into it and help to fix bugs ...thanks....
 @adfad666

@adfad666 CM11 arrives for XM SS, if u have intrested then port it or make it for XM DS.. Thanks. Voted in Poll.
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I would love to have CyanogenMod on my Xperia M. I used CyanogenMod on my Xperia X8.
I have Xperia M for a few days now, and it would be great to have 4.4 on Xperia M.
So what are you waiting for?
:fingers-crossed:

That's typical, I ask something just as someone posts a ROM

It's unclear to me why this phone belongs to low activity devices.
It's a very nice budget phone that offers alot for the price.
I am one of those that would very much like to see CM on XM.

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Droidlover123 said:
Bro now we have Cm11 alpha version...so it will be great if you can look into it and help to fix bugs ...thanks....
@adfad666
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agreed, it would be great if we have another ROM for XM :good:

adfad666 said:
That's typical, I ask something just as someone posts a ROM
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So bro will you try to build cm for us?? maybe if you make from scratch we have all bugs removed...! @adfad666
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Yes I am waiting....... Plz support xperia m
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Nah, I was thinking of buying a cheap phone for development and Xperia M seemed unloved when I posted.
I'll probably now wait to see what 2014 brings, perhaps I'll get the rumoured Xperia E2, assuming it is still qcom and not mediatek.

Bro pls consider it....its not bad phone....also it most popular among all Sony budget phones even when it is last one to be launched(see survey on xperia blog)
Pls dude if u plan get this phone....WE HAVE NO DEVELOPERS....:crying: :banghead:
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Sony will have a big presentation at CES, which is less than a week away. We'll soon see if there is anything on the horizon.
If the Xperia E2 does turn out to be MediaTek, and no other Qualcomm based devices get announced, then I'll likely stick with Xperia M, probably the dual SIM version. I prefer how it looks compared to Xperia L, which is the same price as M here.

adfad666 said:
Sony will have a big presentation at CES, which is less than a week away. We'll soon see if there is anything on the horizon.
If the Xperia E2 does turn out to be MediaTek, and no other Qualcomm based devices get announced, then I'll likely stick with Xperia M, probably the dual SIM version. I prefer how it looks compared to Xperia L, which is the same price as M here.
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Good bro... And hope e2 is a complete crap... Lol
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Droidlover123 said:
Good bro... And hope e2 is a complete crap... Lol
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It looks like it's going to be called Xperia E1, with model numbers D2004/5 and D2104/5 for the single and dual SIM variants respectively.
http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/01/...-dual-sony-d2004-as-xperia-e1-spotted-on-fcc/

I hope you can support this device. XM isn't a bad smartphone bro
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CyanogenMod for Xperia M
I would love to see CyanogenMod on Xperia M as I previously owned the Arc S and was running it from CM10 through to the recent CM11 that was being released for the device.
Im also interested in helping develop the rom for the device as I own 2 Xperia M's one for everyday while the other is for development purposes so im not worried if it gets bricked and would like to join anyone else willing to bring CyanogenMod to our devices and get more people interested in the power of this phone

adfad666 said:
It looks like it's going to be called Xperia E1, with model numbers D2004/5 and D2104/5 for the single and dual SIM variants respectively.
http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/01/...-dual-sony-d2004-as-xperia-e1-spotted-on-fcc/
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@adfad666 bro no xperia e1 so whats ur plan?

Droidlover123 said:
@adfad666 bro no xperia e1 so whats ur plan?
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Mobile World Congress is at the end of next month. I believe the Xperia E was released in March 2013, so we should see the Xperia E1 by March 2014 this year.
After that it all comes down to specs and price. My assumption is that Xperia E will not have better specs than Xperia M, but I think they will be very close.
I predict the Xperia E1 will have the following specs:
Snapdragon 200 chipset, with Adreno 302 GPU - dual core msm8x10 or quad core msm8x12
512mb RAM (probable) or 1024mb RAM (hopeful)
Android 4.3, with an upgrade to Android 4.4
Resolution of 480x320 (probable) or 854x480 (hopeful)
The most important spec will be the processor, I want something compatible with Android 4.4. The above chips are brand new, they have support for Android 4.3 and above, I didn't see any Android 4.2 support on CodeAurora Forums.
If it comes with anything MediaTek, I will not buy due to lack of available source code. If it comes with the older Snapdragon S4 based on msm8x25 or msm8x25Q, I will not buy as it will only ever have Android 4.1, support for its Adreno 203 GPU was dropped from Android 4.2 due to missing hardware functionality.
The other specs I'm not too worried about, but obviously the higher the specs the better.
After all that it then comes down to the price difference between the Xperia E1 dual and the Xperia M dual. I assume the Xperia E1 will be cheaper, but if I happen to find a really good deal on a discounted Xperia M, I might be tempted by it, though I would prefer to work on the new msm8x1x chips...

Zl or SP???

I have a xperia sp and now I want to sell it and buy a xperia zl... Then my question is if you recommend me to do it ..... Are there enough development here ???
Sorry for my bad English

I think you are very busy so u did not check development threads
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ZL all the way. SP has more ROM's, but ZL has enough.

sid3091 said:
ZL all the way. SP has more ROM's, but ZL has enough.
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Of course the ZL!
Better cpu and RAM. I don't want to work with less then 2 GB of RAM anymore.
In my opinion better and well thought design.
Just the front camera on the bottom really sucks!