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Alternatives to Clockwork recovery

i have used clockwork recovery for a while. But is is old with not much development. is there a alternative that is better with all the functionality and more.

Clockwork mod has set the standard for custom recoveries I wouldn't suggest deviating from it. But if you dont care you can try TWRP its not bad, you can theme it and its touch like Cwm
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Not much development..? There's only so much recovery can do.
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TWRP
That's what I use.
Hoping Maxx brings 4EXT Touch to GNexus eventually. Loved it on my N1.
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lol wow...
Its like asking for a Windows Recycle bin with more functionality... Since its been the same since Windows 95 lol

mellll said:
lol wow...
Its like asking for a Windows Recycle bin with more functionality... Since its been the same since Windows 95 lol
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HAHA I LMAO'd

Might happen with windows 8. They are messing with everything else why stop with the recycle bin lol.
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I'll second TWRP
when playing around with different roms and kernels, it's layout just seems more logical and natural. Didn't have any problems so far with wiping and installing stuff (that wipe cache/dalvik button after install is really handy)
Hope they continue to develop

I also use twrp. Best recovery overall IMO.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not much development..? There's only so much recovery can do.
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clockwork never restores my nandroid backups. it always errors out near the end of the restore. even with a wiped phone and a fresh root and rom. liquid rom

swogg said:
clockwork never restores my nandroid backups. it always errors out near the end of the restore. even with a wiped phone and a fresh root and rom. liquid rom
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Sounds like bad nand memory not a recovery... I could be wrong though. Or your partitions are corrupt.
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ÜBER™ said:
Sounds like bad nand memory not a recovery... I could be wrong though. Or your partitions are corrupt.
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how do you fix a bad nand memory?, or fix the partition?
clockwork finds the nand backup fine and starts the restore process. restores system fine, secure fine, but errors out while restoring data

swogg said:
how do you fix a bad nand memory?, or fix the partition?
clockwork finds the nand backup fine and starts the restore process. restores system fine, secure fine, but errors out while restoring data
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You dont... means busted phone... like i said i could be wrong. Do you have enough space for the nandroid? you need about 2gigs for it to back up properly depending on how much /data you have... like how many apps you have... i have roughly 30-40 and my nandroids are around 800mbs... otherwise yes it will error.

ÜBER™ said:
Clockwork mod has set the standard for custom recoveries I wouldn't suggest deviating from it. But if you dont care you can try TWRP its not bad, you can theme it and its touch like Cwm
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that's crazy to think about. I remember when Koush made it for the D1 just so we could flash CM because SPR used a different format. Thinking back, that guy did a LOT in a short amount of time

uoY_redruM said:
TWRP
That's what I use.
Hoping Maxx brings 4EXT Touch to GNexus eventually. Loved it on my N1.
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+1 on this. I had just started using 4EXT on my Evo 3d, it was great. I think Clockwork mod is great as well but I prefer 4EXT and TWRP's user interface. I would use TWRP but it seems a lot of mods I wanna flash can't be done with it.
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I really liked AmonRA's recovery when I was on the Dream. I was sad when I had to switch to CM. But, now I'm cool with it.
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I've gone back to cm touch after using TWRP for a while.
TWRP is great, and I did like the ability to queue zips, but I had trouble with nandroids and with rom manager integration. Basically, I would hit apply in rom manager, and my phone would boot to the menu in TWRP instead of flashing the rom. Ultimately, nothing beats the ease of being able to hit a button in Android, and have the phone reboot and automatically install your updates. (On the other hand, if someone can tell me how to integrate TWRP with rom manager, that'd be awesome...)
With nandroids, the process took about 3 seconds and the files weren't nearly big enough, so I guess it was missing something.

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m.is.for.michael said:
I've gone back to cm touch after using TWRP for a while.
TWRP is great, and I did like the ability to queue zips, but I had trouble with nandroids and with rom manager integration. Basically, I would hit apply in rom manager, and my phone would boot to the menu in TWRP instead of flashing the rom. Ultimately, nothing beats the ease of being able to hit a button in Android, and have the phone reboot and automatically install your updates. (On the other hand, if someone can tell me how to integrate TWRP with rom manager, that'd be awesome...)
With nandroids, the process took about 3 seconds and the files weren't nearly big enough, so I guess it was missing something.
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It's called learn to do the process yourself and not use rom manager...I have not had it on my phone since the evo it has never really worked on a Samsung phone and koush never wanted to fix it...
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Well thanks: I know how to do it myself, but rom manager and CWM is heaps more convenient and works fine for me on my gnex
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Though somebody helpfully just suggested on another thread that I should try goo manager instead of ROM manager. I might give that a go.

Borked phone with touch recovery?

So I have been flashing custom roms on this phone since day 1 and have usually not had any problems. However, before moving on to a CM10 alpha build, I decided to update to CWM 6.0.1.2 touch which I got from koush's site (and yes it was for the hercules etc..)..
Now it seemed to work fine, so I took a nandroid and proceeded to flash the cm10 zip. Unfortunately it seems to have jammed up, and now it continues to jam up when doing even basic things (like trying to do a nandroid restore - gets stuck on .android_secure). I have also been trying to mount USB storage so that I can copy a different recovery but that isn't working either.
I am just worried that I am feeling the effects of that emmc bug where it gets corrupted. But I have been running and reflashing with CWM 5.0.2.7 for months without issue. My next plan is to Odin up a new recovery. Lets hope that works.
Anyone know what's going on ?
Update: After I odined back to non-touch CWM 5.2.0.7, phone was as good as new.

Lost all hope with Koushik's stock recovery lol (touch of..).
I think you should either try sk8er's or TWRP.
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switchfo0t said:
Lost all hope with Koushik's stock recovery lol (touch of..).
I think you should either try sk8er's or TWRP.
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I find using CWM Touch is only a good idea when using JB Roms. I'm am using it right now and not having any issues! If your using something other then a JB Rom then just use normal CWM Recovery hope that helps!
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I switched to TWRP 2.2.0 and I'm never going back. at least not for my S2. Better luck with CWM on my tabs!

Sk8er's 6.0.1.2 touch is good and the backups are super small in size. Non-touch backups are way bigger. The new touch saves a lot of space. I used to only use non-touch.myself until this touch recovery convinced me to switch. To me it's a lot better and has more features than regular cwm but to each his own. This is just my two cents on the subject.
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TWRP > all.
Never had any issues with it.
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Phone won't boot into recovery?

Hi guys, so I was using wicked ROM, whenever I tried to boot into recovery, it just rebooted back to system. Odin'ed back to stock, flashed twrp through goo manager app, but still no use. Any help greatly appreciated
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eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so I was using wicked ROM, whenever I tried to boot into recovery, it just rebooted back to system. Odin'ed back to stock, flashed twrp through goo manager app, but still no use. Any help greatly appreciated
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What methods have you tried?
adb reboot recovery is the easiest way to get to recovery
Maybe try flashing CWM, seeing if that works, and then flashing TWRP (I've never flashed TWRP through Goo Manager so I don't know how that works)?
If you don't have adb set up, get quick boot from market and try recovery through that.
If that doesn't work, I honestly don't know. I'm assuming you've done the power off then volume up+home+power at the same time trick already.

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What methods have you tried?
adb reboot recovery is the easiest way to get to recovery
Maybe try flashing CWM, seeing if that works, and then flashing TWRP (I've never flashed TWRP through Goo Manager so I don't know how that works)?
If you don't have adb set up, get quick boot from market and try recovery through that.
If that doesn't work, I honestly don't know. I'm assuming you've done the power off then volume up+home+power at the same time trick already.
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With the goo app, I can boot directly into recovery, but my issue is that I get to the Recovery's splash screen, it hangs there for a second and immediately reboots back to system. I'm thinking to get the stock recovery back and try again I'm really not sure what the Hecks going on
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Mhm OK, got cwm working, guess I'll just use that one for the time being
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eggydrums said:
Mhm OK, got cwm working, guess I'll just use that one for the time being
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I would highly recommend putting TWRP back on there. The CWM was more for testing... people have reported issues using CWM with certain ROMs. Glad you were able to get CWM on though.

Nothing wrong with CWM.

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Nothing wrong with CWM.
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There are a number of ROMs that do not support CWM so that statement is false. FreeGS3 loses update functionality, for example.
Also, there have been complaints in the case of CWM touch of it being too easy to wipe your entire device.
Not to mention there is no Goo Manager functionality without TWRP as well.
Lots of benefits of TWRP versus CWM. I used CWM for years then had to switch to a modified TWRP for my MAXX and was more than happy when I found out the SGS3 used TWRP as well (although I wish we had the ROM slots like the MAXX though - that was actually cool)

The statement is not false. I think FreeGS3 hasn't been updated for 4.5 months? Maybe not the best example. And I still think you should use as few automated tools as possible where flashing is concerned (Goo/ROM Manager).
It can be easy to wipe the wrong partition in CWM, if you are careless or illiterate. In the 6 months that I've used it (nearly every day), I have never once wiped the wrong partition, or my entire device. Never had a backup that wouldn't restore.
I like some of what TWRP offers. But I still experience showstopping bugs with it on my device. At this time, the devs are unable to track down the cause of the problems.

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The statement is not false. I think FreeGS3 hasn't been updated for 4.5 months? Maybe not the best example. And I still think you should use as few automated tools as possible where flashing is concerned (Goo/ROM Manager).
It can be easy to wipe the wrong partition in CWM, if you are careless or illiterate. In the 6 months that I've used it (nearly every day), I have never once wiped the wrong partition, or my entire device. Never had a backup that wouldn't restore.
I like some of what TWRP offers. But I still experience showstopping bugs with it on my device. At this time, the devs are unable to track down the cause of the problems.
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Don't get me wrong, I've used CWM on many devices for years and even have a premium license for ROM Manager but I've seen a number of ROMs explicitly say not to use CWM, FreeGS3 was just the first that came to mind. I don't flash often because quite frankly, I have no problems with Wicked v8 and see no reason to switch to anything else.
And I am neither careless nor illiterate but I have accidentally borked things using CWM before in the past (it was a modified CWM Touch recovery) and I was not happy.
I think most of the complaints about CWM these days though come from CWM Touch, not regular CWM. Sorry TWRP has issues for you.

OK, so I'm getting a new issue, I changed to AOKP and I had problems with the ROM saying I needed to wipe data, I did, the issue persisted for few reboots, now apps won't install, and for some reason the /data folder still displays apps from my previous ROM ugh I don't know what's happening
Oh and for some reason the app exchange service kept force closing
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eggydrums said:
OK, so I'm getting a new issue, I changed to AOKP and I had problems with the ROM saying I needed to wipe data, I did, the issue persisted for few reboots, now apps won't install, and for some reason the /data folder still displays apps from my previous ROM ugh I don't know what's happening
Oh and for some reason the app exchange service kept force closing
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Which recovery? Try erasing data, cache, and system three times each and reinstalling the ROM... If that doesn't work you might consider doing a back up of everything internally stored on your phone and then wiping the internal storage entirely and starting over.

EtherealRemnant said:
Which recovery? Try erasing data, cache, and system three times each and reinstalling the ROM... If that doesn't work you might consider doing a back up of everything internally stored on your phone and then wiping the internal storage entirely and starting over.
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I tried. I think for some reason, the recovery isn't wiping data, even though it says so. I'm using twrp
Managed to install apps through the play website, still no go with the play store app though
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eggydrums said:
I tried. I think for some reason, the recovery isn't wiping data, even though it says so. I'm using twrp
Managed to install apps through the play website, still no go with the play store app though
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Hmmm... Have you tried doing it through CWM? Its starting to sound like your partitions are messed up.

EtherealRemnant said:
Hmmm... Have you tried doing it through CWM? Its starting to sound like your partitions are messed up.
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I think that's a possibility I just tried through clockwork, and it's all good now but exchange service fcs here and there
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eggydrums said:
I think that's a possibility I just tried through clockwork, and it's all good now but exchange service fcs here and there
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Did you fix permissions?

EtherealRemnant said:
Did you fix permissions?
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I tried while I was in twrp, it failed, something about a an error "failed to chmod data/data/ email.apk" (not exactly like that)
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TWRP Problem!

Hi, So when I tried to open up twrp recovery, it wouldnt open....it would just stay at the logo and blink every now.and then....So I used oden and installed cwm over twrp and it was fine....I didnt like cwm so I went back to twrp..... it works fine and I can do everything EXCEPT some files are inaccessible and every time I flash something,it works but also gives me the error measages in the image I posted... does anyone know how to fix this?
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razzack3000 said:
Hi, So when I tried to open up twrp recovery, it wouldnt open....it would just stay at the logo and blink every now.and then....So I used oden and installed cwm over twrp and it was fine....I didnt like cwm so I went back to twrp..... it works fine and I can do everything EXCEPT some files are inaccessible and every time I flash something,it works but also gives me the error measages in the image I posted... does anyone know how to fix this.
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Maybe try installing twrp from goo manager while connected to WiFi to ensure a good download
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I had the same exact problem a couple days ago. I fixed it by going Into goo manager and re flashing a new TWRP. I did it on Mobile Data, worked fine!
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Go back to 2.3.3.0. Search for the flashables ones. Since 2.4.2.1 TWRP have a lot of issues.
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I see a lot of people complaining about TWRP related issues with various versions of this recovery.
Is there any reason people don't talk about CWM around here? I've been using different versions of cwm touch and twrp ... And I'm honestly pretty happy with cwm.
Why does it appear that people avoid talking about cwm? ... If indeed it works as well as it seems to me that it does?

One reason is that a lot of people think it's better and recommend it to others. I used cwm on my old evo and was going to when I got my s3, but most people and roms were recommending twrp. I've been using it and have tried out cwm as well. For me, at least it hasn't been problematic, but I don't download them through the goo manager. As I feel like I have less control over what I'm getting (I don't even know what version I'm getting until after I download it). That, and I just don't trust the phone to download without errors even when on Wi-Fi.
Just my two cents.
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I just actually switched to cwm a couple days ago because twrp had been giving me backup and restore problems.. everything twrp can do cwm does also, and it seems to be faster backing up and restoring also, but that might just be placebo... devs recommend twrp because that is what their Rom/kernel/mod was tested with... 99% of the time cwm will work just fine also
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It might be that people are ignorant about cwm just like people are about androids
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razzack3000 said:
It might be that people are ignorant about cwm just like people are about androids
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Actually, having used both, I think TWRP had been the better of the two because of the ease of naming your nandroids and the fact that backups in TWRP don't take up so much space as the CWM backups do. Have you seem the crazy Blobs folder in CWM? I like backing stuff up to the PC, but the CWM backups made that process extremely painful. I don't know what happened to make TWRP so unreliable recently, but I just noticed a newer version is out: 2.5.0.0
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DurhamHusker said:
I see a lot of people complaining about TWRP related issues with various versions of this recovery.
Is there any reason people don't talk about CWM around here? I've been using different versions of cwm touch and twrp ... And I'm honestly pretty happy with cwm.
Why does it appear that people avoid talking about cwm? ... If indeed it works as well as it seems to me that it does?
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There's nothing bad about CWM, but is 2013 and you can't rename your nands which is very important(not necesary) in a phone which date as 1970. Also the touch version looks like a '90 recovery.
But if you want a issues free TWRP go back to 2.3.3.0.
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I did that... Now it only recognizes my ext sd card and the 0 folder in my internal storage that I clear out a while ago
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topherk said:
One reason is that a lot of people think it's better and recommend it to others. I used cwm on my old evo and was going to when I got my s3, but most people and roms were recommending twrp. I've been using it and have tried out cwm as well. For me, at least it hasn't been problematic, but I don't download them through the goo manager. As I feel like I have less control over what I'm getting (I don't even know what version I'm getting until after I download it). That, and I just don't trust the phone to download without errors even when on Wi-Fi.
Just my two cents.
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If you update from goo manager, a pop up will tell you what version you are about to install beforehand. Also the webpage that it takes you to in order to start the auto download also states the name of the .IMG which also indicates version. I know what you mean about trusting downloads from the phone though. I personally think that is the reason a lot of people have issues with twrp. I've always updated to the latest twrp and flash almost daily, but have never had to switch versions because of bugs. All versions have ran perfect for me.
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It might be that people are ignorant about cwm just like people are about androids
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I've used both for quite a while. I used to only use cwm for the longest but decided to try out twrp because of those ridiculous blobs! What's with that? So I decided to try twrp and I've stayed because of all the little features like a warnings before you wipe things you shouldn't, option to flash more than one zip at once, option to clear cache and dalvik right after flashing, etc... Plus there are some pretty major features that get overlooked. Like the built in file browser. I installed miui once and it created a folder I could not delete and keep deleted. Every time I would reboot, it would come back. Twrp file browser deleted it and kept it deleted. The only thing I don't like about twrp is the system date and time being way off.
Edit: Lol. I've edited like 5 times because I keep wanting to add more info. Also, twrp doesn't take ages to fix permissions. As long as cwm takes, I can just do it manually
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I've been on 2.4.0 and 2.4.4, and only had to do backups but haven't tried to restore yet, so after hearing all the war stories, I went back to 2.3.1.

UPDATE: I just upgraded from 2.3.1 to 2.5.0, performed wipes, a backup and a restore and all went perfectly smooth. The only issue was the time was 2 hours behind what it should have been for US central, so I selected 2 hours ahead and chose military time (my preference) and I'm happy.

Where did you get 2.5.5?i only found 2.5.0
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oops, I mean't 2.5.0

first time using custom recovery

why didnt i start with clockworkmod instead of twrp. for hours now i thought i was doing something wrong while trying to restore a rom. it turns out the newest twrp is buggy. why are people recomending the latest twrp when it it so buggy.

I think most people still recommend 2.5.0.2, because 2.6 is so buggy...
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Nexus 6 said:
why didnt i start with clockworkmod instead of twrp. for hours now i thought i was doing something wrong while trying to restore a rom. it turns out the newest twrp is buggy. why are people recomending the latest twrp when it it so buggy.
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Yes, TWRP has issues, use CWM. I'm using it for a while. So far so good
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TWRP is my preferred recovery and I've had zero issues with version 2.5.0.2 since I got this phone.

Nexus 6 said:
why didnt i start with clockworkmod instead of twrp. for hours now i thought i was doing something wrong while trying to restore a rom. it turns out the newest twrp is buggy. why are people recomending the latest twrp when it it so buggy.
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I had exactly the SAME expirence.although I'm not new at rooting and using custom roms this being a new device for me I took everyone's advice and installed twrp. it was so buggy that it almost bricked my device. it got stuck on the introduction screen I couldn't get into tecovery or get out of the screen.i Eben pulled battery and it continued on that screen. finally finally I was able to get into the recovwry system, I rebooted and immediately I downloaded cwm recovert touvh wick has been wonderful ever since. That said, I thought this expirence with twrp was mine alone until ive heard of similiar complaints. I would NOT recommend twrp to ANYONE myself.i couldn't even flash a rom on it. I'm stocking with cwm recovery where its solid and works well

Nexus 6 said:
why didnt i start with clockworkmod instead of twrp. for hours now i thought i was doing something wrong while trying to restore a rom. it turns out the newest twrp is buggy. why are people recomending the latest twrp when it it so buggy.
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I am clueless as to why anyone would want to use TWRP as well lol. CWM has always done its job.

When I restore a backup that I made, do I have to wipe anything before or after the restore process?