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Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet

I'm checking out both KindleFire & NookTablet dev forums to decide which one I should get.
I'm really looking for a reading experience (with colour considering I will be reading a lot of design-related ebooks) thats also easy on the eyes (much like the e-ink)
I don't mind another Android experience but thats not a priority since I already have that through my phone that supports native Android 4.0 (+HTC Sense 4.0)
The only worry is developer support for stable working ROM's and the hardware&storage specs difference between the two, not to mention battery life.
Or should I just wait for the Kindle Fire 2?
I've posted this question in both forums to see both sides of the spectrum.
Thanks!

I suggest the Nexus 7. It has a higher resolution screen and is a little easier on the eyes than both those tablets.

Just get the nexus 7. Has a lot more features than both. But if must get one of them I you can boot a os from the sd card on the nook. But I guess I would prefer the nexus over my of and the nook.
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i have all three in my house, (kindle, nook, nexus) and i agree with VEEMAN because the nexus has a better screen and and not much need to root it and install a custom rom (except i did and i installed paranoiandroid rom )

tobiascuypers said:
i have all three in my house, (kindle, nook, nexus) and i agree with VEEMAN because the nexus has a better screen and and not much need to root it and install a custom rom (except i did and i installed paranoiandroid rom )
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+1 for nexus 7. However, the Kindle UI is actually pretty great/useful so if that was a part of your consideration I would say Kindle Fire. Nook Tablet is honestly not a good tablet, particularly in stock and rooting is kind of a pain with it currently because you have to first drop it back to an older version of the software and then root it and then you can do other things like flash ROMs. It is true that you can run ROMs from the SD card but I wouldn't recommend that because it would be easy to lose your data that way. Nook tablet is a glorified e-reader, kindle fire is a tablet with e-reader functions and nexus 7 is a full blown tab that you could read books on if you so decided. It really depends on what you're looking for.
Development is also going to rank in best to worst: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire, Nook Tablet

If I were buying now I'd buy the Nexus 7. However, I have no need to buy since my KF does everything I want.
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Should i get a kf or kfhd ? Or yu think theres a better option ?

I need a 7" tablet, a cheap one and dnt know wich to get .... you think there gonna be a way to unlock te kfhd bootloadder soon?
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xXreptar said:
I need a 7" tablet, a cheap one and dnt know wich to get .... you think there gonna be a way to unlock te kfhd bootloadder soon?
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Well I don't know what you're looking for on a tablet, but currently the 1st gen would be the best to get I think considering the price. Don't buy the $160 2nd gen model, you would have to find one on eBay or Craigslist.
The devs on here are coming closer everyday to getting ROMs for the kfHD, so if you want all the new and exciting features that Amazon had to offer go for that.
If you want an open device that is amazing, then I would go with the nexus 7. It has most of the same specs as the kfHD, but is pure vanilla Android with a few bonus features for the same price.
There's my rundown on things. Hope this helps!

xXreptar said:
I need a 7" tablet, a cheap one and dnt know wich to get .... you think there gonna be a way to unlock te kfhd bootloadder soon?
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The KFHD is nice as far as specs go, minus the lack of immediate expansion via an SD slot, but KF1 has a robust development community. One problem with the KF1 though is it is aging in a fast moving technological world. It will be hard for it to keep "keeping up" with the ever expanding hardware requirements. Well, any piece of computer related gear is going to be outdated quickly.
If you want something "cheap" without bells and whistles, the KF1 is a good buy currently. The KFHD will be unlocked sooner or later although in a year the KFHD will be old news and something much superior will then take the stage. The Nexus 7 looks pretty sweet and that's what I would buy if I had money lol
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guitarman2010 said:
The KFHD is nice as far as specs go, minus the lack of immediate expansion via an SD slot, but KF1 has a robust development community. One problem with the KF1 though is it is aging in a fast moving technological world. It will be hard for it to keep "keeping up" with the ever expanding hardware requirements. Well, any piece of computer related gear is going to be outdated quickly.
If you want something "cheap" without bells and whistles, the KF1 is a good buy currently. The KFHD will be unlocked sooner or later although in a year the KFHD will be old news and something much superior will then take the stage. The Nexus 7 looks pretty sweet and that's what I would buy if I had money lol
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Agreed, wanted the nexus 7 but my gf got me one of the last kf1 for my birthday, I hated it until I found this website.

Barb3r said:
I hated it until I found this website.
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The KF1 stock is a setback compaed with present tablet technology. If one is used to the common features of many tablets currently (camera, mic, BT, copious amounts of memory and being a non-slave device) it sure is hard to grasp the stock Amazon experience. I remember when I first got the KF1 and thought it was pretty sweet as stock.
The reason for me saying this was because the only other tablet I had experience with BEFORE I had the KF1 was a horrible El cheapo WM8650 7" resistive screen running Froyo. That thing claimed to have an 800MHz CPU but sure didn't act like it. If the battery lasted 3 hours I felt lucky. I have a Samsung Android phone that runs Froyo and has 256MB of RAM just like the WM8650 and that phone will out perform that tablet anyday! So when I got a Kindle I felt lucky but eventually was tired of the limitations of the stock software.
Ok....maybe back to the topic at hand. I can understand your frustration with a stock Kindle lol
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please save your money and buy a nexus 7. Its got good hardware and community support.

Yeah get a nexus 7 or if u can save more buy nexus 10
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shantam said:
Yeah get a nexus 7 or if u can save more buy nexus 10
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Whats the rsp of the 10 ?
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I do agree the nexus7 seems to be top of the line, however it does have a few downfalls that would steer me away from it (and did) 1- no rear facing camera 2-no landscape mode and 3 - no sd card slot. I would recommend a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 it has all the above features and is priced comparable to the nexus 7 and imho it would be the better tablet also the 8 gb version of the nexus 7 is no longer available forcing you to buy the 16 gb version which is more expensive with LESS FEATURES .....hope this helps i got my daughter the samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 8 gb version for Christmas and both of us couldn't be happier. the galaxy tab also has a feature on it that's called ir blaster that allows you to use it as a universal remote all of this and the fact i only paid U.S. -175$ (retail i believe is around U.S. -199$) i think the samsing would be a better deal for features and price.
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Whats the rsp of the 10 ?
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Buy what you want, for gaming nexus 7, best quality kindle fire hd? More features samsumg galaxy tab, see that the kindle fire hd is faster than the samsumg.
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Personally, I'm kicking myself for not buying a nexus 7. Here's my point of view: the Samsung one has a camera on both sides and an SD card slot. I don't really need either. The KFHD has stereo speakers and an HDMI port. I thought they would be handy but it turns out those features are not terribly useful to me either. The nexus has crap speakers that can be fixed with a free volume app, landscape mode is locked but there's a free app for that as well. You can't plug it straight into the TV but that's also not much of an issue, because you can send it to a Roku box, or a Google TV add on box. What really takes the cake for me is, even the wifi only nexus 7 has GPS. A nexus owner can carry his tablet around the house, doing his reading, texting, and redditing; then walk right out to the car with it and drive across the country with sat-nav powered by tomtom while pumping your mp3s through the car stereo. All the while enjoying having the latest version of android.
PS. Kindles don't natively read epub files, which take up 1/3 the memory of Amazon's mobi format, without downloading a 3rd party app like moon plus or aldiko.
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I agree w/ some others on here, nexus7 is a better buy! KF1 is still kind of awesome in its own lackluster way though.
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Why Nexus 7 over Samsung Galaxy tab 3 ?

I need some help on deciding which tab to get? Already have a Ipad but like the Android platform better. Why ot why not would you get a Nexus 7 over the Samsung Galaxy 3 ?

lostsoul565 said:
I need some help on deciding which tab to get? Already have a Ipad but like the Android platform better. Why ot why not would you get a Nexus 7 over the Samsung Galaxy 3 ?
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Screen: nexus7
cpu: nexus7
gpu: nexus7
ram: nexus7
battery: nexus7
OS: nexus7
sd slot: samsung tab 3
hardware keys: samsung tab 3
camera: nexus7
i would highly recommend buying nexus7, its almost perfect and can run any game/watch any movie at really high definition (it also support 4k)
the only tablet wich can battle against nexus7 is tegra note type tablets (hp slate 7 extreme, tegra 4 proccesing tabs) but they also have poor screen quality.
i also thought of kindle fire hdx but it has fork OS and you dont have google play.
so yes, nexus 7 owns all of them.

The 7" Tab 3 also doesn't seem to have any hdmi capability. There is a voice capable model 3 though, if that's your thing.
On the much cheaper side, I still like the Hisense Pro I bought for my girlfriend. $130! Sd card, mini hdmi slot, ok camera, good battery life, fast and smooth,... I really only like 3/4g 7" tablets (have a T-Mobile 7.0+) but I still want to get my own!

I was faced with a similar decision a month ago when I finally decided to upgrade from the HTC Flyer (Best Buy WiFi model) I had received as a late xmas gift at the beginning of this year. BEST DECISION EVER!
After getting the Galaxy S Relay 4G as a b-day gift when my myTouch 4G Slide crapped out (and the MT4GS was a pretty damn decent phone, itself), I began to REALLY DISLIKE touchwiz (Sammy's ui....sluggish, slow, crash-prone). So that's when I decided against getting another Samsung device. Sure, a tab 3 would have been more compatible with my phone, but after going through the DAUNTING task of rooting a Samsung device (and let's admit, it IS a bit of a pain), I wanted something easier to customize.
Not only does the N7 2013 kick the CRAP out of the tab 7 (and even the tab 8), as far as hardware goes, it's easier to unlock, root, & load custom ROMs (though, I AM a CM fanboy); is UBER portable (hell, even with the smart case I got for it, the N7 STILL fits in my winter coat or pants pocket); and gets updates FIRST directly from Google.
Word of advice: get it from RadioShack, if you can! I bought the N7v2 from my local Shack, and 6 days later, half the screen flat out GLITCHED. So, here I am on my way to work in the morning, calling the Shack to see if they had one I could exchange for. The agent said he didn't........BUT could get one there but 2pm. Got off of work around 1230pm, I called to check the status AND IT WAS ALREADY THERE! The exchange went with out a hitch. I even bought the extended warranty I was so impressed. Get it from them, too.
Now, I do have the 16gb wifi version, cuz I would tether it my phone, but hey to each their own.
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NsZebra said:
Screen: nexus7
cpu: nexus7
gpu: nexus7
ram: nexus7
battery: nexus7
OS: nexus7
sd slot: samsung tab 3
hardware keys: samsung tab 3
camera: nexus7
i would highly recommend buying nexus7, its almost perfect and can run any game/watch any movie at really high definition (it also support 4k)
the only tablet wich can battle against nexus7 is tegra note type tablets (hp slate 7 extreme, tegra 4 proccesing tabs) but they also have poor screen quality.
i also thought of kindle fire hdx but it has fork OS and you dont have google play.
so yes, nexus 7 owns all of them.
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Looking at the screen is better but using it probably isn't ?
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desairs said:
Looking at the screen is better but using it probably isn't ?
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Actually, this second unit I got has no issue
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Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire HDX 7"

Getting a tablet for Christmas. These two tablets got my eye in the 7" tablet market. I love pure nexus devices. But, I noticed that the hdx has some crazy specs! Was wondering which one I should get? Not a fan of Fire 3.0, but later on I think the HDX will get some nice rom development. But, again the nexus 7 comes with kit kat and already has a unlocked bootloader. Also, it has access to almost all of amazon'a features, as amazon does not with googles cool stuff. Help me out here guys! I'm on the fence!

T Greezy said:
Getting a tablet for Christmas. These two tablets got my eye in the 7" tablet market. I love pure nexus devices. But, I noticed that the hdx has some crazy specs! Was wondering which one I should get? Not a fan of Fire 3.0, but later on I think the HDX will get some nice rom development. But, again the nexus 7 comes with kit kat and already has a unlocked bootloader. Also, it has access to almost all of amazon'a features, as amazon does not with googles cool stuff. Help me out here guys! I'm on the fence!
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If you want an android tablet, get the nexus. Amazon really locked down the kindle with their OS, as you stated, google integration is a pain.
The HDX was made to be a consumption device for people who use solely the amazon ecosystem. I think the choice is clear

Fire 7 (2017) vs Nexus 7 (2012)

Seeing how Amazon will have the 2017 model for only $30 coming up soon - can anyone help me assess whether the new Amazon Fire 7 could outperform an aging Nexus 7 (2012 model)?
I don't use the Nexus much anymore - only really as a baby monitor. But it'd be nice to get hooked into the Amazon ecosystem since I'm already a Prime member. I'm also assuming I'll get a little better battery life since the other tablet is so old now.
Thanks!
Jay