[Q] SMS/Phone support on LTE version? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I've heard the original 3G Nexus 7 could send/recieve texts so I was thinking about replacing my nexus 4 with my 6 because I don't make many phone calls these days - just need a device for texting, browsing, and reading.
Could someone with the LTE version try installing the sms/dialer app and see if they work?
Thanks!

James.UBC said:
I've heard the original 3G Nexus 7 could send/recieve texts so I was thinking about replacing my nexus 4 with my 6 because I don't make many phone calls these days - just need a device for texting, browsing, and reading.
Could someone with the LTE version try installing the sms/dialer app and see if they work?
Thanks!
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ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it

samdroids2a said:
ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it
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WELL. If you wana get fancy, you can use a voip app if you wana make calls. Google voice will let you send text over wifi/data. It just doesn't do mms messages.

teh roxxorz said:
WELL. If you wana get fancy, you can use a voip app if you wana make calls. Google voice will let you send text over wifi/data. It just doesn't do mms messages.
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Canada
the cheapest data plans here are also more or less the same as the equivalent data only plans - especially with promotions/loyalty

James.UBC said:
Canada
the cheapest data plans here are also more or less the same as the equivalent data only plans - especially with promotions/loyalty
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Ah, well that definitely blows there guy. =/

I can text on my wifi model now using this app called tablet talk u can even dial a number or call somebody and itll start ringing on your phone its a neat app
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casonswag said:
I can text on my wifi model now using this app called tablet talk u can even dial a number or call somebody and itll start ringing on your phone its a neat app
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kinda wanted to skip the also-own-a-phone part

So, my plan is to purchase the lte version of this tablet on Verizon. Then use Google Voice to make calls and receive texts(replacing my SGN2 on occasion). Does anybody have any idea how much monthly data I should purchase(I will also be streaming music, browsing the web and social networks regularly).
And if anyone knows the rough amount of data used to make a voice call(to another phone) using Google Voice, I would love to know!
Thanks!

samdroids2a said:
ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it
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From google/nexus/7
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
So more than just 4G. Although I'm not sure where the no texts/calls on 4G comes from. If you could provide source I'd love to see it.
Unless you meant the Nexus 7 4G is Internet only and no text/calls:
If the cell chips are the same as the Nexus 4/Optimus G I'd love to see someone enable the calling features on the N7 2013. Although as We've seen with the N7 2012 that might be a difficult task.
HERE's HOPING!

You know - it's really frustrating when someone answers a question with what I'm sure to the person writing it seems to be a relevant and helpful comment - but has completely missed the point of the original question.
For example: the question here is essentially: The old Nexus could send texts/SMS - could someone install the dialer/message app on the new model with LTE and test this. A related question is 'can you use the cell model to do voice calls?'
In both cases, it should be clear that a part of the question is implied: 'in the same way you can do with a regular cellphone'. In fact, the guy actually SAYS this.
The actual correct answer is: no one has a Nexus 7 2013 LTE yet, so we just don't know.
"You can use application X to do VoiP" isn't actually a valid unless you start with "no - you can't do voice calls using the 3G or LTE radios, but..." because the question isn't 'is there ANY way to make a regular phone call on a tablet that doesn't support voice calls'.
Similarly "You can use application Y to do something kind of like texting/SMS" isn't a valid answer unless it can actually text or SMS to a phone that doesn't run a special app, or receive a text/SMS from a phone that's not running that app.
Or.. "Can you attach a USB Stick to the Nexus 7 2013 using an OTA USB cable?" It's safe to assume the user means 'without completely rearranging, rooting or flashing the Nexus'. So the actual answer is "no, no you can't." You could THEN follow up with "But if you're willing to..." Not everyone wants to put custom roms on their system or root it... so that's not an 'obvious' answer and it's really annoying when someone says 'yes! you can!' and then moves onto a page of instructions on how to modify your stock device to install all sorts of unknown and potentially dangerous software to get this one feature to work.
Oh and before someone says it - because someone will - yes, XDA is targeted to developers and experimenters - but XDA has become a trusted place for people to come and look for help even when they're not developers and experimenters. You can generally tell who these people are because they ask questions like 'can you use your Nexus 7 2013 LTE as a phone?' The regulars here already know that you can't use the 2012 model for that - and that the odds are low that the 2013 will let you do it either and so wouldn't be asking that question.
So at least try to make the answers match the audience or perhaps hold off answering until it makes more sense?

TheWerewolf said:
'can you use the cell model to do voice calls in the same way you can do with a regular cellphone?'
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Any new information?

.:Crack:. said:
Any new information?
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Picked up my LTE nexus 7 today in Australia.
Inserted my SIM card.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Can send & receive standard SMS text messages via my mobile number.

sml12 said:
Picked up my LTE nexus 7 today in Australia.
Inserted my SIM card.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Can send & receive standard SMS text messages via my mobile number.
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How about calls? Not VoIP since it can do them no problem

w1ll1m said:
How about calls? Not VoIP since it can do them no problem
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there is no dialler.

sml12 said:
there is no dialler.
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What about installing one and testing it out?
What happens if someone calls the number?

w1ll1m said:
What about installing one and testing it out?
What happens if someone calls the number?
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I called my phone number from my friend's iPhone and my mobile number was ringing when listening to the iPhone ... but nothing was happening on the nexus 7 LTE.
I tried to do this to get a dialler "install QuickShortcutMaker and make a shortcut to it. Search "phone" in the app. It should be the first result, under contacts."
But cannot find a dialler

I'm thinking of selling my n4 and buy a N7.
If that works I'm in
If not I'm gonna buy a Wi-Fi N7 either..
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FloMi said:
If that works I'm in
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if what works? let me know the steps and I'll give it a shot.

The phone thing
I didn't see your post before I sent mine
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I tried again using quickshortcutmaker ... the following shortcuts are possible when searching for 'dial':
Heading = Mobile Data .com.android.phone
Mobile Data - Emergency Dialer .com.android.phone/com.android.phone.EmergencyDialer
Mobile Data = Fixed Dialing Numbers .com.android.phone/com/android.phone.FdnSetting
Mobile Data = EcmExitDialog .com etc etc
Emergency Dialer - did permit me to try a local call
Fixed Dialing Numbers - had a few options = disable FDN, change PIN2, FDN list

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can a verizon galaxy nexus be sim unlocked?

the verizon version of the galaxy nexus has a sim slot could the be unlock? i see them selling the same verizon phone on ebay and it says unlock
The Verizon gnex will only work on Verizon. No exceptions.
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^^^what he said, it doesn't have the correct radios for it to work on anything GSM besides Verizon LTE
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If anyone else is still on this thread
I think i need it sim unlocked so i can use it over wifi, because i moved to alaska and i use my google voice number. I need it sim unlocked because when i try to make a call it wont let me because it cant reach the verizon network at the same time as it trys to reach the wifi network.
Slie said:
I think i need it sim unlocked so i can use it over wifi, because i moved to alaska and i use my google voice number. I need it sim unlocked because when i try to make a call it wont let me because it cant reach the verizon network at the same time as it trys to reach the wifi network.
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Turn on airplane mode then enable WiFi perhaps?
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Slie said:
I think i need it sim unlocked so i can use it over wifi, because i moved to alaska and i use my google voice number. I need it sim unlocked because when i try to make a call it wont let me because it cant reach the verizon network at the same time as it trys to reach the wifi network.
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Does Verizon not have service in your area of Alaska? Either way, a SIM unlock won't help, because as noted earlier here, the Verizon GNex won't work on another network.
You need a cell network to make calls on Google Voice though, unless you want to use a 3rd party app to bridge the cap and make VOIP calls over WiFi. By default, GV will not make calls over WiFi.
I was in Alaska last month and used my Verizon Nexus several times while on Wi-Fi using Groove IP. Verizon coverage in Alaska is pretty bad though.
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If you moved and they can't provide you service, they have to let you out of your contract.
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z06mike said:
If you moved and they can't provide you service, they have to let you out of your contract.
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They don't do that anymore
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El Daddy said:
The Verizon gnex will only work on Verizon. No exceptions.
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It will work for cricket wireless
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Thank you all for this us full, ifno!!!
I can text with google voice, but not make calls i was hoping that if i could go around the verizon antans i could use it as is only on wifi.
Thanks for bringing up the 3rd party app makes soo much sense(as i did that on the iphone).
Well I'll just text with it until i come up with something to do with it.
"Airplane mode + Wireless"? hope you were messing with me,
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"Airplane mode + Wireless"? hope you were messing with me,
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Switch to airplane mode, then turn on WiFi.
Cool Full internet on airplane mode
But when i place a call through wifi google voice it asks me to turn airplane mode off.
Slie said:
But when i place a call through wifi google voice it asks me to turn airplane mode off.
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Just like I said before... Google Voice is not a VOIP service!!! By default, Google Voice is simply a call forwarding service. It just places calls via the normal cell network and routes them to make it look like they're coming from your GV #. It uses minutes and can't be used directly over data on the phone.
If you want to make calls on your GV # on just data, you need to use a computer (via Google Talk) or use a VOIP application that uses the Google Talk protocol to make calls on your phone. Simple popular apps for this are GrooVe IP and Talkatone. Chances are if you need to make lots of calls these won't work well enough for you to rely on them.
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Slie said:
I can text with google voice, but not make calls i was hoping that if i could go around the verizon antans i could use it as is only on wifi.
Thanks for bringing up the 3rd party app makes soo much sense(as i did that on the iphone).
Well I'll just text with it until i come up with something to do with it.
"Airplane mode + Wireless"? hope you were messing with me,
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No, do it all the time on my NS and vibrant. Don't see how its that odd?
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martonikaj said:
Just like I said before... Google Voice is not a VOIP service!!! By default, Google Voice is simply a call forwarding service. It just places calls via the normal cell network and routes them to make it look like they're coming from your GV #. It uses minutes and can't be used directly over data on the phone.
If you want to make calls on your GV # on just data, you need to use a computer (via Google Talk) or use a VOIP application that uses the Google Talk protocol to make calls on your phone. Simple popular apps for this are GrooVe IP and Talkatone. Chances are if you need to make lots of calls these won't work well enough for you to rely on them.
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This^
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Like i said I agree with all,
I am however glad i can use the wifi with airplane mode I thank you for the ViOp it made a bunch of sense seeing as how i've had to set that up before. I might do it i might not I can text i never talk so it's really cool!
too good to be true at least!! would be awesome ha ha
maybe viop if anyone needed to know about it it's all here Bomb!!
Thank's all for sure!!
z06mike said:
If you moved and they can't provide you service, they have to let you out of your contract.
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I love internet lore! No, they do not have to let you out of your contact. They may still do it as a courtesy in some exceptional cases, but it is not the norm and they are under absolutely no obligation to do so.
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N7105 lte only

Is there a way or mod to enable LTE ONLY in the Mobile Network Settings? Thanks guys!
Try cdma only...
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Yes you can but if you set LTE only.
Your phone will not able to receive or dial call.
LTE only for data, not supporting voice call.
darkinners said:
Yes you can but if you set LTE only.
Your phone will not able to receive or dial call.
LTE only for data, not supporting voice call.
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Can you teach me how to do it? Or link me to some instruction? TIA!
jerverg said:
Can you teach me how to do it? Or link me to some instruction? TIA!
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*#197328640# >1>1>8>7>2
then you can select the band you desire to use exclusively.
Still, please beware. once you lock your phone in LTE only.
THE PHONE WILL LOST THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE OR MAKE CALLS.
*sorry for the caps
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*#197328640# >1>1>8>7>2
then you can select the band you desire to use exclusively.
Still, please beware. once you lock your phone in LTE only.
THE PHONE WILL LOST THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE OR MAKE CALLS.
*sorry for the caps
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Before I do this, is there a ways to get it back to the way it used to be? Like, just typing *#197328640# again?
Beware! I have used the trick to set preferred band LTE on a Note 2 and an S3 and while it is possible through the same trick to set back to auto, both phones lost sensitivity in 2g and 3g making them next to useless on public networks!!!
Only do this if you are prepared to dedicate the phone to packet switched, LTE only service! Fortunately I could accept that limitation, but that may not be your case...
If you are planning to do this, depending on your network, you may also have to set service mode to PS only instead of CS+PS through the menu item one down from preferred band.
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[Q] LTE Mobile Phone Calls

I would like to use my Nexus 7 LTE as a permanent phone and need to keep my current Australia mobile number.
The SMS sending & receiving using my Australian mobile Telstra number is perfect with Go SMS Pro.
However (not surprisingly) I cannot make phone calls after trying a few dialers from the Play Store.
Call forwarding to my Google Voice number (from Australia to the US) will be expensive charges from Telstra., so the VOIP option is looking tricky.
What are the chances of some XDA developers developing something to enable standard mobile calling on the N7 LTE 2013?
Hi
sml12 said:
I would like to use my Nexus 7 LTE as a permanent phone and need to keep my current Australia mobile number.
The SMS sending & receiving using my Australian mobile Telstra number is perfect with Go SMS Pro.
However (not surprisingly) I cannot make phone calls after trying a few dialers from the Play Store.
Call forwarding to my Google Voice number (from Australia to the US) will be expensive charges from Telstra., so the VOIP option is looking tricky.
What are the chances of some XDA developers developing something to enable standard mobile calling on the N7 LTE 2013?
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I don't think this will ever be possible as the Nexus is a data only device and lacks the hardware for the audio side of cellular phone calls. The only option is VoIP.
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Phil

4g LTE phone calls experience need opinion

Hello can anyone please share your experience specifically on the calling and the texting features ?
Maybe even make a video? No one seem to talk about this at all?
kingrichards said:
Hello can anyone please share your experience specifically on the calling and the texting features ?
Maybe even make a video? No one seem to talk about this at all?
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Wow no one here have courage? To try this? Lol
C'mon guys pop that SIM card in there and share the experience!!!!!!!!!!
I would like no know this too as I just got the 4G LTE and text messaging works flawlessly, except phone calls as it gives me busy signal on all calls that are made. Don't know what's wrong. The sim card is activated and everything works as it should. Except phone calls..
Adam.S said:
I would like no know this too as I just got the 4G LTE and text messaging works flawlessly, except phone calls as it gives me busy signal on all calls that are made. Don't know what's wrong. The sim card is activated and everything works as it should. Except phone calls..
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There's really not a lot to talk about. The SM-P601/5 are just giant phones. Anything a N3 can do, they can do. Dialers and MMS/SMS are pretty much the same on every phone and the SM-P601/5 are no exception.
Here's a screen shot...
P.S. - In order to use the voice and messaging features the SM-P601/5 have to be provisioned by your carrier as "phones." Tablet-specific data plans don't support calls or MMS even though the device is capable.
I was waiting for a response and didn't get anyone to chime in so I finally got my note 10.1 p605 so here goes yes you need to get a sim with voice and data plan it will work. I'm currently using it as my phone at the moment and it rocks!
I have the SM-P605 4G LTE and I couldn't figure out how to make phone calls on this device. Can you help?
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I was waiting for a response and didn't get anyone to chime in so I finally got my note 10.1 p605 so here goes yes you need to get a sim with voice and data plan it will work. I'm currently using it as my phone at the moment and it rocks!
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natosports said:
I have the SM-P605 4G LTE and I couldn't figure out how to make phone calls on this device. Can you help?
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Is your SM-P605 from a carrier or Samsung? The U.S. carriers and possibly some others disable voice and MMS and always have in the tablets they offer. If you don't see the Dialer and Messaging apps when you look in the app drawer I'm guessing they've been disabled in whatever version of SM-P605 you have. If you see them and can't use them that means the SIM you're using probably doesn't support voice and MMS. They're either there out-of-the-box or they aren't. If they aren't there's not a lot you can do about it.
BarryH,
I got mine from the Verizon store. I downloaded a Dialer app from Google Play and tried to make a call, but still no go. The app brought up a Dialer, but when I punch in a telephone number, and press Send, it just beeps and does nothing. The Sim card was from my 4G LTE phone. I swapped it over.
I was, however, able to make calls using Google Voice & Groove IP. But man, I would just love to be able to make calls just like a phone.
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Is your SM-P605 from a carrier or Samsung? The U.S. carriers and possibly some others disable voice and MMS and always have in the tablets they offer. If you don't see the Dialer and Messaging apps when you look in the app drawer I'm guessing they've been disabled in whatever version of SM-P605 you have. If you see them and can't use them that means the SIM you're using probably doesn't support voice and MMS. They're either there out-of-the-box or they aren't. If they aren't there's not a lot you can do about it.
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How is WiFi Calling different than simply using Hangouts Dialer on WiFi?

Apart from using your carrier number vs your Google Voice number?
I think there are people just use to using SIP XXX for whatever back in the day. It's what was used from the beginning. So you have people stuck, just because they've always used XXX to make wifi calls. (minus T-mo people)
Then hangouts dialer wanted to install on its own on tablets. As a group, all things got better, and now hangouts dialer seems pretty decent to me. It's easy to do, and easy to dial using it, on accident even. Quality is all network dependent and is subjective in it's entirety.
So we've fast forwarded 5 years and it's just plain easy and the quality is decent. Dial from hangouts and save the hassle.
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Apart from using your carrier number vs your Google Voice number?
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http://gizmodo.com/what-is-wi-fi-calling-1635271129
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http://gizmodo.com/what-is-wi-fi-calling-1635271129
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So it's basically like I said, the only difference is it uses your carrier number instead of your GV number.
RueTheDay said:
So it's basically like I said, the only difference is it uses your carrier number instead of your GV number.
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Wifi calling doesn't need mobile data.
For example, in a car on the way back home. Your mobile data is off. But still you can call/talk to your friend on voice. When you get home, the system handover the conversation from cellular to wifi seamlessly.
Does anyone know if doing this will count towards your minutes for the month? I don't have unlimited minutes. So, just curious.
gingus7 said:
Does anyone know if doing this will count towards your minutes for the month? I don't have unlimited minutes.
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With most carriers, Wi-Fi calling will count against your minutes—Hangouts and other non-carrier-based voice apps will not.

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