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ThunderBolt--->Galaxy Nexus Multiple Issues

Greetings,
I recently upgraded to the Galaxy Nexus from my modded thundebolt running Cyanogen, both on Verizon.
This phone despite rave reviews has been a huge disappointment to me.
Battery Life This is an issue highlighted on this forum and all over the web. This phone's battery life is significantly worse than the Thunderbolt was out of the box. The latter was solved with a root and cyanogen install. I certainly hope the same can be said of the Nexus. As a medical professional, this device is simply unusable. I am currently getting less than 4 hours. The device is always running hot, as if some program is chewing through the battery, but a fix is elusive at this point. I have tried two nexus phones at this point.
Speed Another big disappointment. I have once again tried two devices, both with the quick OTA update. The device is extremely sluggish in virtually every regard. Opening programs, sliding through menus. I have actually tested my thunderbolt against the nexus on opening and running many different programs, from games, some of which are unplayable on the Nexus (may be an ICS issue) to opening simple email like gmail. The Thunderbolt is significantly faster and smoother. I admit I am a bit mistified by this one, hearing so many with rave reviews of the speed. I am not sure if this is because others are coming from much older devices or if there really is a speed issue. The Thunderbolt was clearly much faster in every regard. Again two separate
Vibrate This is a major issue for me, being in the medical profession. The device doubles as my pager, and missing pages can obviously be dangerous to my patients. I have again tested and confirmed this on two separate Nexus devices.
Voice to Text The google engine that transcribes on the fly only works with the android keyboard. Further, I have found it to be much less accurate than my thunderbolt using flex t9. I even tried the latter on the nexus, reproducing many of these problems. Not sure if this is a microphone issue on the nexus.
Games Some are simply unplayable. This may be a native problem to ICS, but my favorite game, frozen bubble plus is no longer a viable time waster.
Camera The concerns about this are well justified. It does fine in sunlight, but anything with a flash is absolutely horrid and unusable. For those who enjoy sharing a quick photo via facebook, texting, whatsapp, picasa etc, you are seriously going to be disappointed. The focus is inconsistent, and the flash over saturates the pictures. Major step behind the Thunderbolt.
There are other annoyances. Long pressing a text box allows you to change input method.
I haven't figured out if you can assign an on screen "hardware" button to a task by long pressing like you can on the thunderbolt. I have the find key on my thunderbolt assigned to the voice command. So I can long press on it and text, email, search directions etc with one simple long press. I don't see an easy way to do this on the Nexus, another major inconvenience.
In fact the only way I see to use the voice capabilities is to keep the google search bar on the home screen. I don't see the program even listed in the apps.
Perhaps many of these issues can be addressed in an upgrade, but this device's starting point is very disappointing to me, worse than the bolt.

4 hours?
I don't know what to say to any of that.
First, I easily get 18-25 hours DAILY depending on how much I use the phone. And I'd like to point on that I am a HEAVY texter (girlfriend ). Maybe you have the LTE version? I'm sure you would get ****ty battery life on LTE all the time and inside of a hospital with low reception.
Second, this has got to be the the fastest and most "fluid" device I have ever owned. I come from a dualcore Tegra 2 G2x, and the Galaxy Nexus just blows it out of the water. There is no comparison. Needless to say, I've also owned a Nexus One, Samsung Vibrant, and a G2 (The G2 with a processor most closest to your Thunderbolt).
Third, the phone vibrates just fine in my experience. If you're having troubles with it, put your incoming call ringtone on silent and raise your notification ringtone volume. That way you don't have to worry about a random call disturbing the peace.
Fourth, you must remember this is a Google Nexus device. Most games come optimized for Nexus devices. Give it time, your favorite games will be updated. In the mean time, there are plenty of other games you could play (Age of Zombies? )
Fifth, are you really going to complain about the focusing? The Galaxy Nexus has an instant shutter speed. If you want a better focus, how about you hold onto the shutter button before releasing it instantly?
I don't know about changing the input method via long press since the stock keyboard is the best I've ever used on an android device.
If you really do need a "hardware" search button, just apply a mod. If not, then just press home and it's there right at the top. Seems pretty convenient to me
I'd just like to point out to you that most of these "issues" will never be fixed as they are UPGRADES from the previous versions of android. Sorry

I am indeed an LTE user on Verizon. The battery problem seems to be real, as documented on this forum and elsewhere.
Good to hear you are doing so well, implying that there is some kind of drain issue isolated to the verizon LTE launch.
I am coming from a Thunderbolt, and while the device isn't slow, the rooted/modded bolt was significantly faster at launching gmail, yahoo mail, go sms texting, facebook etc... I suspect that this too will be fixed, but its frustrating that a more powerful device on paper is actually performing worse than an almost year old device.
Any other Thunderbolt users notice the lag on the nexus that I am referring to?
The vibrate feature is perhaps a matter of personal preference. What is fine for you, may not be nearly enough for others. I will try your suggestions though and appreciate it. I prefer to have my device in my pocket, and need to feel the vibrations as they are often emergent pages. Again, the vibration issue seems to be a real problem documented hear and elsewhere on the web.
The camera issue isn't about the speed, which is impressive. The problem is too many photos don't focus properly. The bolt took terrific pictures in comparison albeit at a slower pace. Flash photography indoors is not even passable in my opinion. Perhaps this latter problem can be or has been fixed in 3rd party camera applications. I am just not aware of any at the moment.
The gaming issue concerns me the least. I agree that this will likely be fixed with updated games quickly. I only raised it because my number one favorite game was affected!
Assigning voice capabilities to a long press is a real convenience on the bolt. I don't even have to look at the screen to make it text, email, call, find directions, do a google search, or launch an application. While you may find an alternative "easy" isn't he whole point about android the UI and being able to customize it to your hearts content. I am 100% confident that this will be addressed in some modification or add on program, but it is not easily done now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.

I'm coming from a Thunderbolt and I noticed the slow responsiveness when calling on some apps in the Nexus right away. I guess my expectations were pretty high from the get go. I'll give it some time, The developers put a lot of work into the Tbolt to get it to perform fast, I'm sure the same will happen with the Nexus.
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The problem is you came from a device that had development optimization for almost 10 months to a brand new development phone. If you were running a stock Thunderbolt the whole time, you would more notice the difference between the two phones. I also came from a thunderbolt running MIUI ICS and Eternity ROMS, I can tell that this phone is significantly better in every respect but the camera. But, as a phone, I don't expect the camera to be awesome. The vibrate is more elegant on this phone compared to TBs brutal shock of a vibrate, I still feel it just fine.
Your other annoyances sound more like trivial irritations rather than actual device problems, aside from the battery in which case I would say turn off LTE and it would last longer. Changing the hardware buttons wasnt a stock feature on any android phone, that was part of development. People forget that these devices take a dew days to a week for battery to run properly and once development takes off, this phone will be a monster in a month's time when everything is better optimized and features are added.
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chocoyo00 said:
I'm coming from a Thunderbolt and I noticed the slow responsiveness when calling on some apps in the Nexus right away. I guess my expectations were pretty high from the get go. I'll give it some time, The developers put a lot of work into the Tbolt to get it to perform fast, I'm sure the same will happen with the Nexus.
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I was really surprised because the responsiveness of this device has been one of the big selling features. I agree that this will likely be corrected with OTA updates and modded devices, but out of the box I was expecting it to be faster than my nearly one year old Thunderbolt, and was disappointed it wasn't.

mb02 said:
The problem is you came from a device that had development optimization for almost 10 months to a brand new development phone. If you were running a stock Thunderbolt the whole time, you would more notice the difference between the two phones. I also came from a thunderbolt running MIUI ICS and Eternity ROMS, I can tell that this phone is significantly better in every respect but the camera. But, as a phone, I don't expect the camera to be awesome. The vibrate is more elegant on this phone compared to TBs brutal shock of a vibrate, I still feel it just fine.
Your other annoyances sound more like trivial irritations rather than actual device problems, aside from the battery in which case I would say turn off LTE and it would last longer. Changing the hardware buttons wasnt a stock feature on any android phone, that was part of development. People forget that these devices take a dew days to a week for battery to run properly and once development takes off, this phone will be a monster in a month's time when everything is better optimized and features are added.
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I agree that many of these issues can be corrected. When I bought my bolt, battery life was dreadful. After a quick root and cyanogen install, it was resolved. But out of the box, it still was a more polished experience than this device is.
These may be "trivial irritations" to you, but they are significant to me. I am looking for the most complete and polished smartphone experience. The nexus promised everything, and has not delivered as of yet in my experience. In fact there is really very little it has lived up to judging by the hype.
Clearly there are others with similar problems. I hope and expect many/most to be fixed.
This may be germane to those of us coming from an optimized Bolt, which is still a very worthy piece of hardware. I cant speak for other devices, as the only other android device I have extensive experience is the original droid incredible, which ironically is still fantastic and faster in many ways to the new Nexus in my experience.
At this point, very little of the promised features and experience have lived up to expectations. Perhaps the hype was too great, but I am hopeful this all will be fixed with software updates.
I hope people don't take this as a personal attack on the device, as I know many feel passionate about such things.

well, hardware wise the Nexus is superior to the Thunderbolt and almost as good as the Rezound. I think the main issue right now is ICS. i notice its still very buggy and lots of apps i used to use either dont support ICS or have issues running on ICS. its just a matter of time before everything is running properly.

Brand new Operating System, on a brand new phone. You have had the phone all of 4 days and expect it to be perfect already. I think you need to give it some time. You already said yourseld you modded your TB. Expect the same with this phone. And when and on a new OS you can not expect every app to work immediately. Looks like you should of waited a month to get the phone, or go back to the TB for another month and hold onto the Nexus. I currently have a TB myself.

voxigenboy said:
well, hardware wise the Nexus is superior to the Thunderbolt and almost as good as the Rezound. I think the main issue right now is ICS. i notice its still very buggy and lots of apps i used to use either dont support ICS or have issues running on ICS. its just a matter of time before everything is running properly.
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I suspect you are correct. I was just surprised that virtually nothing that was promised on this device has been realized at launch. I am used to new phones being buggy, but virtually every aspect of this device has fallen short at launch and not consistent with the reviews.

worm- said:
Brand new Operating System, on a brand new phone. You have had the phone all of 4 days and expect it to be perfect already. I think you need to give it some time. You already said yourseld you modded your TB. Expect the same with this phone. And when and on a new OS you can not expect every app to work immediately. Looks like you should of waited a month to get the phone, or go back to the TB for another month and hold onto the Nexus. I currently have a TB myself.
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I never said I expected it to be perfect. That is an unreasonable expectation of any device, even one that has matured and polished over time.
I do expect a flagship device to deliver on some of what was promised. This device has delivered on very few promises at launch. So far disappointed, but very hopeful it will be fixed.

makes me appreciate my hspa th even more

priapos said:
I never said I expected it to be perfect. That is an unreasonable expectation of any device, even one that has matured and polished over time.
I do expect a flagship device to deliver on some of what was promised. This device has delivered on very few promises at launch. So far disappointed, but very hopeful it will be fixed.
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But there are bugs with any device, especially on a new OS. Look at apple, they know how to bring new devices to market, but at launch iOS 5 was plagued with bugs, most notable was the battery drain.
But what promises hasn't the Nexus kept? I'm a little curious. Because to me, the Nexus line promises to bring the best hardware and software in terms of functionality, and to me the phone doesn't fall short of any expectations.
To each his own, right?

priapos said:
I am indeed an LTE user on Verizon. The battery problem seems to be real, as documented on this forum and elsewhere.
Good to hear you are doing so well, implying that there is some kind of drain issue isolated to the verizon LTE launch.
I am coming from a Thunderbolt, and while the device isn't slow, the rooted/modded bolt was significantly faster at launching gmail, yahoo mail, go sms texting, facebook etc... I suspect that this too will be fixed, but its frustrating that a more powerful device on paper is actually performing worse than an almost year old device.
Any other Thunderbolt users notice the lag on the nexus that I am referring to?
The vibrate feature is perhaps a matter of personal preference. What is fine for you, may not be nearly enough for others. I will try your suggestions though and appreciate it. I prefer to have my device in my pocket, and need to feel the vibrations as they are often emergent pages. Again, the vibration issue seems to be a real problem documented hear and elsewhere on the web.
The camera issue isn't about the speed, which is impressive. The problem is too many photos don't focus properly. The bolt took terrific pictures in comparison albeit at a slower pace. Flash photography indoors is not even passable in my opinion. Perhaps this latter problem can be or has been fixed in 3rd party camera applications. I am just not aware of any at the moment.
The gaming issue concerns me the least. I agree that this will likely be fixed with updated games quickly. I only raised it because my number one favorite game was affected!
Assigning voice capabilities to a long press is a real convenience on the bolt. I don't even have to look at the screen to make it text, email, call, find directions, do a google search, or launch an application. While you may find an alternative "easy" isn't he whole point about android the UI and being able to customize it to your hearts content. I am 100% confident that this will be addressed in some modification or add on program, but it is not easily done now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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you cant compare a rooted device with a custom rom and kernel to one that is just rooted stock, its like comparing my old droid 1 to the galaxy nexus, your not comparing apples to apples
now maybe it could be that i came from the droid x(rooted and running cm7) but this phone is just amazing compared to my droid x and my og droid
sure i lost some features like longpress to search but i gained so many new ones(face unlock, 4g, google wallet, ect.) that i see they weigh out the loss of that feature, just my $0.02 though
battery on the other hand though is really bad, i will get about 5-6 hours at most(im a heavy user though) i just reset my battery stats for the first time though so im gonna hope that fixes it, have you though about getting the extended battery?

I put the extended battery in yesterday and made my way home from my best friend's place (a 3 hour drive). I listened to music via Poweramp over the car stereo for 2 hours and 15 minutes of the drive and then took a 45 minute phone call. Checked the battery after all that and the Gnex was at 71% battery. My guess is those of you with issues have some rogue app blowing your battery up. And comparisons with the Thunderbolt? My friend's brother in law had a loaner Thunderbolt he got from VZW whilst waiting for a new phone to come in as warranty replacement. It was running the stock ROM. The Nexus is crazily significantly faster than a stock TB. Reiterating the point of others, just wait til the devs get 10 months of development time on the Nexus - hell, give them 2 weeks and come to us and tell us how the phone is versus the TB. I had a Rezound. Great phone, but lack of S-Off (root) and dev support is why I jumped ship back to the Nexus.

I just sold my Thunderbolt, and I don't have any speed issues with the device whatsoever. It is much, much quicker than the Thunderbolt.
My launch TB had horrific battery life. I guarantee yours did too. Only after significant modding and kernel work for months was the TB acceptable with battery life. While I agree battery life stinks right now, it will get much better, and much quicker than the TB did.
One of your programs isn't compatible with ICS and it is sucking up your battery by running all the time. Try to find out what it is.
Games/apps need to be rewritten to be compatible with ICS. Give it time.
After a month or two, this phone is going to be twice as good than it is now. We already have Google Wallet available after 3 days! It is just going to get better.

Download "Camera ZOOM Fx" and your photos will be a lot more detailed and colorful

bhazard451 said:
I just sold my Thunderbolt, and I don't have any speed issues with the device whatsoever. It is much, much quicker than the Thunderbolt.
My launch TB had horrific battery life. I guarantee yours did too. Only after significant modding and kernel work for months was the TB acceptable with battery life. While I agree battery life stinks right now, it will get much better, and much quicker than the TB did.
One of your programs isn't compatible with ICS and it is sucking up your battery by running all the time. Try to find out what it is.
Games/apps need to be rewritten to be compatible with ICS. Give it time.
After a month or two, this phone is going to be twice as good than it is now. We already have Google Wallet available after 3 days! It is just going to get better.
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I agree that the battery life on the original Bolt was terrible. The starting point of the Nexus in my opinion is many leagues worse. Today I had to recharge my device 4 times. The last time was after it drained in just over 49 minutes!!
The device has been wiped and factory default, so anything that is sucking up the juice, came with the phone. Its incomprehensible that Google would launch a device with a built in program using this much juice.
Given the comments in this thread, I just spent the past half hour testing an unrooted Bolt, bought the exam same day, from the exact same store as mine. The device was quicker than my Nexus in virtually every regard. Launching gmail, yahoo mail, browser, go sms texting, scrolling, opening settings... You get the point.
I agree the device will get better. It cant get much worse in this regard.
I will be quick to root and install cyanogen.
I am very disappointed at this time, but look forward to brighter future for the device.

45 minutes? something is wrong with your phone or you are on the edge of LTE signal

priapos said:
I am indeed an LTE user on Verizon. The battery problem seems to be real, as documented on this forum and elsewhere.
Good to hear you are doing so well, implying that there is some kind of drain issue isolated to the verizon LTE launch.
I am coming from a Thunderbolt, and while the device isn't slow, the rooted/modded bolt was significantly faster at launching gmail, yahoo mail, go sms texting, facebook etc... I suspect that this too will be fixed, but its frustrating that a more powerful device on paper is actually performing worse than an almost year old device.
Any other Thunderbolt users notice the lag on the nexus that I am referring to?
The vibrate feature is perhaps a matter of personal preference. What is fine for you, may not be nearly enough for others. I will try your suggestions though and appreciate it. I prefer to have my device in my pocket, and need to feel the vibrations as they are often emergent pages. Again, the vibration issue seems to be a real problem documented hear and elsewhere on the web.
The camera issue isn't about the speed, which is impressive. The problem is too many photos don't focus properly. The bolt took terrific pictures in comparison albeit at a slower pace. Flash photography indoors is not even passable in my opinion. Perhaps this latter problem can be or has been fixed in 3rd party camera applications. I am just not aware of any at the moment.
The gaming issue concerns me the least. I agree that this will likely be fixed with updated games quickly. I only raised it because my number one favorite game was affected!
Assigning voice capabilities to a long press is a real convenience on the bolt. I don't even have to look at the screen to make it text, email, call, find directions, do a google search, or launch an application. While you may find an alternative "easy" isn't he whole point about android the UI and being able to customize it to your hearts content. I am 100% confident that this will be addressed in some modification or add on program, but it is not easily done now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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My GN is on order and I currently have a modded Thunderbolt. I can't stand that phone at all, and I have been rooted and running Team BAMF ROM for a while. It lags horribly even with overclock, and while on 3G I barely get 7-8 hours. I hate it.
I'm hoping your problems don't translate to mine.

The Galaxy Nexus, even with roms, is not as fast as the Exynos GSII

I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.

You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..

bk201doesntexist said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.

You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.

Aridon said:
You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.

I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.

Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?

psycho2097 said:
Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.

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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.

My laptop is faster than your GSII.

crossover37 said:
Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
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I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.

So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^

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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.

Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.

A Realization

Come to think of it, our phone is truly amazing.
It has far-exceeded its original shelf-life, and is still very capable to uphold itself in these upcoming years.
Three cheers for Android!

HOORAY HOORAY HOORAY
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Reinvented said:
Come to think of it, our phone is truly amazing.
It has far-exceeded its original shelf-life, and is still very capable to uphold itself in these upcoming years.
Three cheers for Android!
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yea, it's just sucks a little that Google/TI no longer support it.
and also apparently didn't do much of anything in the ways of optimizing code as per omapzoom and other things. I just feel like this thing still has a pretty nice amount of untapped potential in it and wish I knew how to do anything at all in order to pull it out. because while SURE it can perform nicely, there ARE times where you can tell it's strained. and it Just seems like with proper coding it shouldn't at all. Imho the cpu is plenty good enough to handle more than it does, but due to other factors that also put a damper on battery life, it has been held back just a bit from it's full power in order to squeeze that extra necessary juice out.
(which brings me to a side question here, not trying to thread hijack sorries. but, a lot of times you see kernels and roms that have descriptions for "battery tweaks". and in my experience, saving battery tweaks usually go in hand with a slight, even if minute, drop of performance. what I'm trying to find out is what specifically was changed for those "battery saving tweaks". I would personally like to play around with those values. one thing I came across was I believe kernel tweak for "random read/write wake threshold" in sysctl which a lot put to 128/256 respectively as a battery saving tweak. I'm still researching/testing into just exactly WHAT that is for, but I have lowered those values from anywhere of 64/128 to 8/16. but I'd like to couple that with any OTHER changes to see what can be squeezed so to speak lol...anyone let me know if you know of any that you used in the past so that I might look into them and see if were implemented in my setup and reverse them if possible....pm me IF OP would rather this not clog up the thread lol sorry)
but yeah I agree mostly as well, especially with the great devs who worked on & the newer guys who have been jumping on to keep things moving forward, it's just GREAT community for a solid device.
it's my first nexus and I'm extremely happy I got it within 4months of launch so that I could be around and grow WITH it, learning a ton and experiencing it's evolution. it's been fun and STILL is after so long. it is cool to see that even when development started to slow a bit, others jumped to the plate and started digging in, reviving all the excitement. cheers to all in this community!

I see it the other way:
That newer phones may have gotten better specs but Android OS has not changed enough to justify updating to the latest/greatest phones.
For the past 20 months I'm still enjoying using 4.1.2 ROM seeing as the GN was the official 4.1 Jellybean show piece.
I've personally found KitKat to be a dumbed down version of Android, especially since Google removed tablet mode.

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yea, it's just sucks a little that Google/TI no longer support it.
and also apparently didn't do much of anything in the ways of optimizing code as per omapzoom and other things. I just feel like this thing still has a pretty nice amount of untapped potential in it and wish I knew how to do anything at all in order to pull it out. because while SURE it can perform nicely, there ARE times where you can tell it's strained. and it Just seems like with proper coding it shouldn't at all. Imho the cpu is plenty good enough to handle more than it does, but due to other factors that also put a damper on battery life, it has been held back just a bit from it's full power in order to squeeze that extra necessary juice out.
(which brings me to a side question here, not trying to thread hijack sorries. but, a lot of times you see kernels and roms that have descriptions for "battery tweaks". and in my experience, saving battery tweaks usually go in hand with a slight, even if minute, drop of performance. what I'm trying to find out is what specifically was changed for those "battery saving tweaks". I would personally like to play around with those values. one thing I came across was I believe kernel tweak for "random read/write wake threshold" in sysctl which a lot put to 128/256 respectively as a battery saving tweak. I'm still researching/testing into just exactly WHAT that is for, but I have lowered those values from anywhere of 64/128 to 8/16. but I'd like to couple that with any OTHER changes to see what can be squeezed so to speak lol...anyone let me know if you know of any that you used in the past so that I might look into them and see if were implemented in my setup and reverse them if possible....pm me IF OP would rather this not clog up the thread lol sorry)
but yeah I agree mostly as well, especially with the great devs who worked on & the newer guys who have been jumping on to keep things moving forward, it's just GREAT community for a solid device.
it's my first nexus and I'm extremely happy I got it within 4months of launch so that I could be around and grow WITH it, learning a ton and experiencing it's evolution. it's been fun and STILL is after so long. it is cool to see that even when development started to slow a bit, others jumped to the plate and started digging in, reviving all the excitement. cheers to all in this community!
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But linaro,omapzoom,cyanogen and much others still support our phone
What we need to do?We need to update to 3.4 kernel and add all 3.4 new things,inprove trim support,fix power hall(fix deep sleep mostly)
i will try to fix those,its my mission

I like how light kit kat is. But I remember better battery life on JB ROMS. I thought it would be the other way around but it's still nice to be on the latest version of android
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In all honesty, I have found that my battery life has been about the same between JB and KK.

Whiteboy_cannon said:
I like how light kit kat is. But I remember better battery life on JB ROMS. I thought it would be the other way around but it's still nice to be on the latest version of android
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Newer Android is usually the best route.
I've never personally understood why people cling onto Android 4.1, or 4.2.2 (when theyre rooted and have this specific phone)

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Newer Android is usually the best route.
I've never personally understood why people cling onto Android 4.1, or 4.2.2 (when theyre rooted and have this specific phone)
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I don't get it either. But to each his own
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Unless you play games you really don't need a new super powerful phone with a 2.5ghz quad core processor and 3gb of ram.
The Galaxy Nexus does an alight job for every day use, i do feel it could be quicker sometimes and wish i had better battery life, but as phone ive used daily for two and a half years i really cant complain too much.

it truly is a great device. It's all thanks to the great Devs working so hard for a device that has been forsaken by Google, itself lol.

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Unless you play games you really don't need a new super powerful phone with a 2.5ghz quad core processor and 3gb of ram.
The Galaxy Nexus does an alight job for every day use, i do feel it could be quicker sometimes and wish i had better battery life, but as phone ive used daily for two and a half years i really cant complain too much.
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GN can run games just fine, problem is app builders don't support it so some great games don't even show up on the play store.
Eg.
Real Racing 3

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GN can run games just fine, problem is app builders don't support it so some great games don't even show up on the play store.
Eg.
Real Racing 3
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That game you mentioned shows up and lets me install on my Galaxy Nexus fine:
I dont really play many demanding games on my phone, the latest i have played is Trials Frontier which has never given me any problems.

InsaneNutter said:
That game you mentioned shows up and lets me install on my Galaxy Nexus fine:
I dont really play many demanding games on my phone, the latest i have played is Trials Frontier which has never given me any problems.
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Why would I need to make it up?
It may just be my ROM that's some how blocking certain games even though the example you gave is compatible with Android 2.3+.
The desktop play store version has always been weird.
Eg.
Electronic arts developer has 37 apps listed on desktop play store where on my GN via play store app there's only 17.
LOL

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Why would I need to make it up?
It may just be my ROM that's some how blocking certain games even though the example you gave is compatible with Android 2.3+.
The desktop play store version has always been weird.
Eg.
Electronic arts developer has 37 apps listed on desktop play store where on my GN via play store app there's only 17.
LOL
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I'm not saying you made it up, i believe you, i was simply showing at least on my Galaxy Nexus i had no problem with the game you mentioned.
Maybe its a regional thing? for example the Trials game i linked to was only out in Finland for a few weeks, then it got released to more countries after that.

Totally agree with the op.. Software wise it still runs great.... And hardware wise I still feel it one of the most beautifully designed phones ever..
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It's a beautiful phone indeed, if you don't use the 2100 mAh battery and the "assy" cover which makes it a little ugly.

Agree.. I have not added any extended batteries for the same reason .. I like it's slim and curvy profile... Just got an oem one as the original had worn out
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My guess is people tend to remember better battery life with JB because their battery was new back then Totally agree with OP, I've been using my GNex for 2 years now and thanks to continued support from developers I'm still excited and try new stuff to this day. I plan to change it in 2015, but as much as my next phone will be so much better in every department, I do have a feeling that I'll miss my good old GNex somehow

This is the most versatile phone I've ever used.
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Performance of Nexus 5X

Hi guys, I ordered Nexus 5X but I'm really worried about it's performance.. I heard so much about lag that I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my order and getting Nexus 6P instead.. Are issues like laggy Chrome, laggy google keyboard, throttling.. real? Thank you

Laggy keyboard (and touch screen lag in general)- a problem for some devices when fast-charging with the OEM charger. Sol'n - buy or hassle google into giving you a playstore 3amp generic charger (which has a proper ground).
Throttling - will throttle is put through multiple benchmarks. Sol'n - just use your device. There may be some throttling when gaming etc. You won't notice or care except to be pleasantly surprised at how little heat it produced under stress.
Never had a problem with lag in chrome except on pages with multiple adds and that's just an internets problem.

Hmm, thank you.. But then, why are so many people complaining about lag? In every review they are complaining about lag..

Mayy i ask what reviews you are talking about? I have yet to say one that says that from a semi-credible source. Note! There are many many android specific websites but only a small amount of them would i consider to be trustworthy in general.

I cant recall names of them all, but Verge for example. And they are many people having lag and complaining in a forums too: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/VDpAhli9X3c;context-place=topicsearch/5x$20lag . So you guys seriously have 0 lag and it running buttery smooth all the time?

I feel performance is basically identical to my Nexus 5 for everyday use. I can't comment much on gaming or heavy 3D applications as I have only played a few minor games.

so far my phones runs completely smooth. the fast-charging lag is present, but the phone thankfully doesn't have to spend to much time on the cord. lag related to ad-loaded websites is easily dealt with via adblockers, and has nothing to do with the device.
now most importantly consider that the complainers more often than not will make the most noise. there are a lot of devices out there, especially those with successful predecessors, that in general are perfectly fine, but for example didn't meet the expectations of people who tend to be vocal about that.

I know that there have been some reports/complaints of lag here and on reddit, but I can't reconcile them with my experience. I think they must be attributable to poorly coded apps or bad hardware. My 5X has not given me any problems at all and is entirely lag free (I am bone stock by the way). Note that I am not a big gamer, so I can't really speak to that use case.
Now, there is no doubt that the 6P has higher specs. If you wan the highest specs available, you should get the 6P. But, in terms of real-world usability the 5X is great. I would suggest taking a look at the performance charts in the Anandtech review of the 6P -- you will see that in most (not all) respects the 5X is actually quite close to the 6P in terms of performance.
Lastly, the 2 GB of RAM was a worry for me when I purchased the 5X but it has absolutely not been an issue. Right now, my 5X is on its 10th day of uptime. 38 apps have used memory in the last 24 hours, and I currently have 483 MB free. Outside of android processes and Chrome (which is a hog), the next highest memory use for an app is sitting at 66 MB. In other words, I still have plenty of overhead RAM-wise.

Hey there. I've got my Nexus 5X two weeks ago, and I have been experiencing issues with it, however, I believe they are entirely software related.
Just a little while ago, my phone got in a terrible state. Something was using the Location constantly, and the CPU was at 100% at all times. The phone slowed down to a crawl, and I had to eventually reboot it.
All that has led me here to the forum, to see if fellow XDA members have found the culprit. And, judging from the other posts, I seem to be right, and this seems to be entirely software related, and related to some app that I have installed - though I'm not letting Android off the hook yet. I'm in a bit of a problematic situation, as I have no means of connecting my phone to my computer (I haven't bought an USB type C to type A cable yet), so, I can't root and investigate further right now.
All in all - I don't really worry. I'm sure all of this can get fixed. I'll try a new kernel and a process monitor as soon as I find a way to root my phone, get a custom recovery on it, etc. But yes, as of right now, there seems to be something misconfigured with the Nexus 5X, as I hear no complaints from my friend who has a Nexus 5 running Marshmallow, and as far as I have read - no complaints from Nexus 6P users, either.
Will try to update you if I find any data!

Thank you guys, but I'm not getting Nexus 5X. I can't risk anything.. I need smooth and fast phone from day 1.. So I'm getting Nexus 6P instead..

This phone is fast and snappy. My friend's 6p is the same.
CPU performance of the 808 and 810 are very similar.
Performance issues any might be experiencing would be software related. My 5x is smooth and snappy at all times, especially the camera: it's lightning fast compared to my N5 which was no slouch. Gaming performance is also a huge step up from my N5, it actually runs cooler and longer while pumping out higher sustained FPS.
I'd even say there's no faster device you can buy new for $379.

Does this phone still lag?

I know it's been some time since the 5X came out and I'm thinking of ordering one. Has Google addressed the lag issues that plagued the phone when it first came out? How would you rate smoothness and performance?

I bought one a few days ago , it doesn't lag at all and in term of performance it's really good! It's fluid.

got mine in early december. stock, rooted, adaway, deactivated transition animations (literally all the changes i made). no lag issues so far, app switching is smooth and launching an app is subjectivly as quick as to be expected. from my experience and what i've read it can easily keep up with the SGS6.

If you're stock, then yes.
If you're modding and have custom kernel, then potentially no.

Lag on 5x? Can't say I experienced that.
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Experience the lag quite often now. Especially if I don't reboot it for an extended period of time. Most aggravated by camera use. If I never use the camera, it takes a significantly longer period of time before it starts to lag. If I'm traveling and using the camera constantly, I need to reboot by end of day to get the phone functional again.

Honestly any bit of "lag" issues you may have heard about is nitpicking...the overall experience is very fluid and fast.
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I've had my device for a couple days and haven't had any lag issues what so ever on completely stock unrooted and have used the device a good bit. It makes me think that whatever was an issue when the phone was first released was a hardware issue that has since been resolved behind closed doors.
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I have two, one is mine and one is my wife's. I bought them both on release and hers has been quite the headache. It's already been replaced once for issues with unreasonable amounts of lag compared to mine. Mine has been mostly fine, with the same pain points like Camera/Chrome as her but not as bad. I'm not quite as demanding of the phone as she is. I recently wiped mine and went to an AOSP rom with the ElementalX kernel and haven't experienced any of the same lag doing the same exact same tasks. I may wipe hers first and try the same set up before exchanging it again. I'm leaning heavily towards Google just did not optimize the stock kernel for the 808 chip at all. I really feel like they booted up the first build and went "OK it works, let's ship it" without doing any real testing and optimizing like other manufacturers seem to have done (LG G4, Moto X Pure, basically any other 808 phone).

My phone has never had lag. Smooth as butter.

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It's there for some and that's probably not going to change. Here's one popular android blog (Android Central) that recently wrote a "3 months w/ the 5X" article. Multiple editors provided their thoughts.
It is hit or miss for me. This is my first Nexus so I don't notice lag often but it is there even though I am decrypted and running a custom rom/kernel. My experience has been mostly positive, I love using the 5X. If I were coming from a previous Nexus, I probably would notice the difference in performance right away however my last device was a dual core S3.

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If you're stock, then yes.
If you're modding and have custom kernel, then potentially no.
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Nope, stock device here (no root) with zero lag. Snappy performance and the camera is always quick. I only reboot about once per month for the monthly security OTA.
Besides, most CPU governors are tweaked to increase battery life by decreasing clock speeds. Not to increase performance.
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I've had my device for a couple days and haven't had any lag issues what so ever on completely stock unrooted and have used the device a good bit. It makes me think that whatever was an issue when the phone was first released was a hardware issue that has since been resolved behind closed doors.
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I got mine on release day and my device does not lag. The majority of devices do not we're just 10x more likely to hear from those with issues then those without. There has been no hardware revision or change in the 5x, just software updates.
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It's there for some and that's probably not going to change. Here's one popular android blog (Android Central) that recently wrote a "3 months w/ the 5X" article. Multiple editors provided their thoughts.
It is hit or miss for me. This is my first Nexus so I don't notice lag often but it is there even though I am decrypted and running a custom rom/kernel. My experience has been mostly positive, I love using the 5X. If I were coming from a previous Nexus, I probably would notice the difference in performance right away however my last device was a dual core S3.
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My last device was the Nexus 5. The 5x is just as snappy and the graphics performance is far ahead. My device is stock and not rooted BTW. Based on user experiences I've been reading, those with issues are in the minority and experiencing 3rd party software issues. Many have reported success by doing a factory reset without restoring data from another device.
BTW that article is a joke IMO. The only person who mentions how often their performance issues occur mentioned "about once per week" and the rest don't even say.
Obviously some people are having problems with device performance, but I don't believe it's inherent to the device as most are not experiencing such issues and problems only seem to arise once certain types or amounts of background services are running.
My theory: 2GB of RAM on 64 bit OS fills up quicker than 2gb running 32bit. Users are overloading their RAM with background services (possibly aided by a memory leak ala Android 5). It's no secret that many 3rd party background services have really bad memory management.

Yes lag is there. Fresh reset camera everything runs great. Give it a few days (3-4 for me) and you can stop using your camera. Pictures will take 5 seconds to process. I'm not exaggerating. No software fix in sight, and not a peep from Google about this being an issue or a fix in the works. Feel pretty jipped being a pre-order customer.
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Yes lag is there. Fresh reset camera everything runs great. Give it a few days (3-4 for me) and you can stop using your camera. Pictures will take 5 seconds to process. I'm not exaggerating. No software fix in sight, and not a peep from Google about this being an issue or a fix in the works. Feel pretty jipped being a pre-order customer.
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I can second this totally. Pre-ordered the device and seeing lag especially when using the camera...

not really
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It totally depends on how you use it. Overall it's a nice phone

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Nope, stock device here (no root) with zero lag. Snappy performance and the camera is always quick. I only reboot about once per month for the monthly security OTA.
Besides, most CPU governors are tweaked to increase battery life by decreasing clock speeds. Not to increase performance.
I got mine on release day and my device does not lag. The majority of devices do not we're just 10x more likely to hear from those with issues then those without. There has been no hardware revision or change in the 5x, just software updates.
My last device was the Nexus 5. The 5x is just as snappy and the graphics performance is far ahead. My device is stock and not rooted BTW. Based on user experiences I've been reading, those with issues are in the minority and experiencing 3rd party software issues. Many have reported success by doing a factory reset without restoring data from another device.
BTW that article is a joke IMO. The only person who mentions how often their performance issues occur mentioned "about once per week" and the rest don't even say.
Obviously some people are having problems with device performance, but I don't believe it's inherent to the device as most are not experiencing such issues and problems only seem to arise once certain types or amounts of background services are running.
My theory: 2GB of RAM on 64 bit OS fills up quicker than 2gb running 32bit. Users are overloading their RAM with background services (possibly aided by a memory leak ala Android 5). It's no secret that many 3rd party background services have really bad memory management.
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I run custom everything and I prefer it. OOTB, left some things to be desired even though my overall Nexus experience has been great. I agree, we'll always here complaints over positive experiences.
Your theory on ram makes sense from a general level of understanding. For me, ram management on here is awful. A few apps, Maps for instance, reload all too quickly.
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I can second this totally. Pre-ordered the device and seeing lag especially when using the camera...
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I can also second this, I'm looking for custom ROM that will make phone usable again. At this point, I resent returning the N6.
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Short answer, yes it lags and pretty bad. I have to power cycle daily to make it usable. I also thought most reviewers were making unrealistic expectations and we're nitpicking but apparently they weren't

Yes, especially with thermal throttling such as when using navigation, taking videos, or multiple photos in succession.

Mine is horrible. Lag when opening the camera, lag when browsing chrome. My phone is encrypted and I have android wear. Honestly the only thing good about this phone versues my nexus 5 is the fingerprint scanner and the front facing speaker and way better battery life. Other than that I am not liking this phone at all.

I've not been on XDA for quite some time but came on today looming for answers to lag on my 5x.
Totally stock, gets above average use I'd guess, and it starts to lag several times a week.
I I stalled an app called Fast Reboot which seems to help without having to go through the pain of a full power off - but after a couple of weeks that makes little difference now.
Full reboot restores speed, but using the camera a coue of times instantly returns the lag - can take 30 sec+ for camera app to take a photo or close. However the lag starts after a day or two even if I don't use camera at all.
Maybe try a replacement from Google seeing as it seems hit and miss rather than a clear manufacturing/ ROM issue across them all.