Does anybody know if it works on t-mobile? Googled it and could only find an answer from 2007 saying it didn't back then but this is 2013 so I was wondering if it has changed since then. I have seen the build prop tweak (ro.ril.enable.dtm=1) for this to enable it in different threads but was just curious if it actually works on tmobile.
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What exactly is Dual transfer mode?
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Dual Transfer Mode (DTM) is a protocol based on the GSM standard that makes simultaneous transfer of Circuit switched (CS) voice and Packet switched (PS) data over the same radio channel (ARFCN) simpler. Without DTM, the mobile device must be capable of reception and transmission simultaneously (full-duplex) requiring complex and expensive circuitry in the mobile terminal. With DTM this requirement doesn't exist and makes the device implementation simpler and cheaper. DTM is a 3GPP feature introduced in R4 of the specification series.
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Dual Transfer Mode (DTM) is a protocol based on the GSM standard that makes simultaneous transfer of Circuit switched (CS) voice and Packet switched (PS) data over the same radio channel (ARFCN) simpler. Without DTM, the mobile device must be capable of reception and transmission simultaneously (full-duplex) requiring complex and expensive circuitry in the mobile terminal. With DTM this requirement doesn't exist and makes the device implementation simpler and cheaper. DTM is a 3GPP feature introduced in R4 of the specification series.
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Is this like using data while on a call? If so then yes it works. However you must be on 3g or greater for it to work.
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elesbb said:
Is this like using data while on a call? If so then yes it works. However you must be on 3g or greater for it to work.
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Exactly I am always on lte, hspa, or edge usually so was just wondering if it worked for tmobile or not.
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richardlibeau said:
Exactly I am always on lte, hspa, or edge usually so was just wondering if it worked for tmobile or not.
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Won't work on Edge though. But everything else it will i love it.
Wont work on LTE either. Only 3g/hspa+
If I actually did help, how bout a Thanks for 'ol times sake
ktetreault14 said:
Wont work on LTE either. Only 3g/hspa+
If I actually did help, how bout a Thanks for 'ol times sake
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Why not? It should.
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Why not? It should.
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I just tried it out on my phone. I set it to LTE/GSM only and whenever I made a call, it would drop off LTE and go to edge. When I set it to LTE/WCDMA/GSM, it would drop off LTE and join 4G when I made a call. I don't know why it does that though.
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I just tried it out on my phone. I set it to LTE/GSM only and whenever I made a call, it would drop off LTE and go to edge. When I set it to LTE/WCDMA/GSM, it would drop off LTE and join 4G when I made a call. I don't know why it does that though.
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Might have something to do with lte and that HD voice I keep seeing.
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Just curious about this question - because I would really want to use this with T-Mobile.
So, a few days ago I noticed that an aquintance of mine was using an ATT Samsung Note with T-Mobile. I asked him - but you are only getting Edge (2G), right? So he says - "No! I flashed the GSM version modem, and I am getting HSPA+ (4G)", or whatever you call it.
I was shocked! Amazing solution.
Do we have this?
Thanks
No. The AT&T model is completely different in terms of SoC.. their radios will not work for us. You can do like I am and use it on T-Mobile with an accompanying hotspot. Really not bad.
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joshnichols189 said:
No. The AT&T model is completely different in terms of SoC.. their radios will not work for us. You can do like I am and use it on T-Mobile with an accompanying hotspot. Really not bad.
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Thank you ! So making calls, texts, MMS is all fine, but DATA will only work on EDGE (2G)?
Also, what is "hotspot"?
Thanks again!
benyben123 said:
Thank you ! So making calls, texts, MMS is all fine, but DATA will only work on EDGE (2G)?
Also, what is "hotspot"?
Thanks again!
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Yes sir, and I have found 2G is not nearly as bad as I once thought. A hotspot is just a device that gets 3G and broadcasts it as a wifi signal that your phone can use for data. On the T-Mobile website they are under "Mobile Broadband"
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I have a GS3 with T-Mobile prepaid (60 a month) my Simultaneous Voice and Data is not working? is this a problem with the prepaid service? the Simultaneous Voice and Data will work for a few min's then cut off and i cant get data back until i end the call im on.
I'm running Cm10 Nightlights
I was on Simple mobile and had the same problem.
is this a phone problem, service problem, ROM problem? i thought T-Mobile supported Simultaneous Voice and Data?
Works great for me but makes sure you have 3g or better.
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Works great for me but makes sure you have 3g or better.
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i for sure have 3G or better in my area, are you using the Prepaid service?
Amore514 said:
i for sure have 3G or better in my area, are you using the Prepaid service?
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Since Tmobile using GSM network, it should be possible anyway. Did you try rebooting?
agm1101 said:
Since Tmobile using GSM network, it should be possible anyway. Did you try rebooting?
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ya i have restarted, i also have tried 3 other ROMS beside CM
Hi,
anyone know how to make Note 2 available using mobile network during call?
please help.
Thanks.
Alexnew said:
Hi,
anyone know how to make Note 2 available using mobile network during call?
please help.
Thanks.
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Youmean being able to use the Internet while on a call?
I don't think you need to do anything special for that. Mine works fine on the Bell Canada HSDPA network.
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Alexnew said:
Hi,
anyone know how to make Note 2 available using mobile network during call?
please help.
Thanks.
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If you mean being able to use internet during a call, it depends on your carrier and the wireless technology they use.
If your carrier uses cdma technology (e.g. Verizon), then you cant, as cdma does not support voice and packet service simultaneously.
If wcdma is used, then you can used both voice and packet service at the same time.
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That's weird, because I'm on Verizon and have used Chrome several times during a phone call.
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EP2008 said:
Youmean being able to use the Internet while on a call?
I don't think you need to do anything special for that. Mine works fine on the Bell Canada HSDPA network.
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If you mean being able to use internet during a call, it depends on your carrier and the wireless technology they use.
If your carrier uses cdma technology (e.g. Verizon), then you cant, as cdma does not support voice and packet service simultaneously.
If wcdma is used, then you can used both voice and packet service at the same time.
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EP2008 said:
Youmean being able to use the Internet while on a call?
I don't think you need to do anything special for that. Mine works fine on the Bell Canada HSDPA network.
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ring_GT said:
If you mean being able to use internet during a call, it depends on your carrier and the wireless technology they use.
If your carrier uses cdma technology (e.g. Verizon), then you cant, as cdma does not support voice and packet service simultaneously.
If wcdma is used, then you can used both voice and packet service at the same time.
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Thanks for reply.
Is that you mean this is the network operator problem, not Note 2 (phone) problem?
But I tried to use the same network operator (in my country called DIGI, my current phone line) with IPhone, it work fine!!
But, when I put the same SIM card into Note 2, it does not 'always' work!! I mean sometime it work, most of the time it does not work!!
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Thanks for reply.
Is that you mean this is the network operator problem, not Note 2 (phone) problem?
But I tried to use the same network operator (in my country called DIGI, my current phone line) with IPhone, it work fine!!
But, when I put the same SIM card into Note 2, it does not 'always' work!! I mean sometime it work, most of the time it does not work!!
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Hmm i got a galaxy s 1 and soon note 2 .
Now on my galaxy s it works when i already whs browsing the web
So if i use the internet and get call i can still browse but if im not using the internet and get a call it 70% of the times goes off until the end of the call.
Check to see if thats the case in ur note 2, use the internet and call from home or ask a buddy to call u .
Hooe this helped u:beer:
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Thanks for reply.
Is that you mean this is the network operator problem, not Note 2 (phone) problem?
But I tried to use the same network operator (in my country called DIGI, my current phone line) with IPhone, it work fine!!
But, when I put the same SIM card into Note 2, it does not 'always' work!! I mean sometime it work, most of the time it does not work!!
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Your area may have bad 3g connection (3g,H,H+) and signal will drop to only GSM (GPRS/EDGE). In GSM mode you cannot make calls and use data connection at the same time.
Try changing your network connection to only WCDMA and retest.
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Hmm i got a galaxy s 1 and soon note 2 .
Now on my galaxy s it works when i already whs browsing the web
So if i use the internet and get call i can still browse but if im not using the internet and get a call it 70% of the times goes off until the end of the call.
Check to see if thats the case in ur note 2, use the internet and call from home or ask a buddy to call u .
Hooe this helped u:beer:
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tried. during call can't use internet at all, but during using internet can received call and continue using internet for a while.
antt00 said:
Your area may have bad 3g connection (3g,H,H+) and signal will drop to only GSM (GPRS/EDGE). In GSM mode you cannot make calls and use data connection at the same time.
Try changing your network connection to only WCDMA and retest.
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Hi, my area is always H. will try. thanks.
Is your apn set right ?
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I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
boonemeat said:
I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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boonemeat said:
I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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If your on 4g lte you can talk and web browse.
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When you are on 3G data (watching a youtube video, on the web browser, etc) you will still get phone calls, however the data connection will stop to allow the phone call to take place. You will also be able to receive text messages however the data will stop for a brief second (the phone actually goes to 1x for a brief second)
When you are on 4G LTE, you can make phone calls with no problem. The data connection will remain active and you can talk at the same time.
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If your on 4g lte you can talk and web browse.
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To better answer/consolidate the above replies:
When you are on 3G data (watching a youtube video, on the web browser, etc) you will still get phone calls, however the data connection will stop to allow the phone call to take place. You will also be able to receive text messages however the data will stop for a brief second (the phone actually goes to 1x for a brief second)
When you are on 4G LTE, you can make phone calls with no problem. The data connection will remain active and you can talk at the same time.
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And if you're on wifi, you can make and receive calls while surfing. It is only the 3g cdma radio that mucks things up.
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I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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Yes you still get calls. Unless you enable DDTM from settings. Which sends calls straight to vm if you're on active data.
There are cdma phones that do talk and surf but unfortunately our Notes is not one of them even though it came out after all the others ones that can! Damn Samsung Retards.. :banghead:
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RayTrue04 said:
Yes you still get calls. Unless you enable DDTM from settings. Which sends calls straight to vm if you're on active data.
There are cdma phones that do talk and surf but unfortunately our Notes is not one of them even though it came out after all the others ones that can! Damn Samsung Retards.. :banghead:
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This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
Skripka said:
This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
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You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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RayTrue04 said:
You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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I explained exactly why in my post. Read it again. It is all right there.
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Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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Skripka said:
This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
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I explained exactly why in my post. Read it again. It is all right there.
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I've read a few times and I'm a bit confused. You say it's a 3G CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that had identical hardware. Ok.. Wasn't the GS3 a multi-carrier handset with identical hardware? It handles it fine on Sprint's 3G.
The other thing that has me confused was when you said:
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available. Were you referring to the GS3 or the Note? Because the Note can't handle calls and web surfing on 3G.
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Savoy2001 said:
Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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RayTrue04 said:
I've read a few times and I'm a bit confused. You say it's a 3G CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that had identical hardware. Ok.. Wasn't the GS3 a multi-carrier handset with identical hardware? It handles it fine on Sprint's 3G.
The other thing that has me confused was when you said:
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available. Were you referring to the GS3 or the Note? Because the Note can't handle calls and web surfing on 3G.
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See what Mr savoy said. Note2 uses the same hardware across all models... S3 and others used different soc platforms on USA and international handsets.
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Savoy2001 said:
Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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And this is the exact answer I needed to hear. That explains it thoroughly. Which brings me to my next question. Why didn't they go with the qualcomm instead of going backwards? It's like technology advances for CDMA 3G and then Samsung decides to take a step backwards.
Edit: Nevermind I got my answer. Sprint/Samsung sacrificed SVDO for WCDMA support instead. At least that's what I'm getting from researching.
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Thank you all so much for answers! Unfortunately I forgot to check the thread for the answer until after I had the service activated and found out lol.
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You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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It has to do with the processor
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budde2 said:
It has to do with the processor
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Yes I picked that up when researching and people saying is the processor, but sgr4u and a few others speculated it really was put aside for WCDMA support for faster 3G due to the placing if antennas. Which to me makes perfect sense because if Samsung can get LTE to work on their chips what's SVDO to them?
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I wish Sprint allowed for 3G and voicecalls at the same time but but oh well thats what 4G LTE is for
PoD_Hazard said:
I wish Sprint allowed for 3G and voicecalls at the same time but but oh well thats what 4G LTE is for
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Sprint does allow it there are like 3 different devices that do it S3 and Evo lte are two the note 2 just cant thats all unless its on lte
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Sprint does allow it there are like 3 different devices that do it S3 and Evo lte are two the note 2 just cant thats all unless its on lte
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I was only talking about the Note 2, u basically said what I said haha no worries though
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Will the Note 4 have simultaneous voice and data? I know the S5 doesn't.
That is a deal breaker for me.
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No it doesn't. Sprint hasn't had that since the S3 and single band LTE.
It will likely be a year or more till they get that type of thing up and running on their new phones and it is doubtful the Note 4 would ever have it, because it isn't just a simple software upgrade needed. There are hardware issues also.
That shouldn't be a reason to not buy it though. As I said before unless you are getting an S3 no new sprint phone is going to have that capability.
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No it doesn't. Sprint hasn't had that since the S3 and single band LTE.
It will likely be a year or more till they get that type of thing up and running on their new phones and it is doubtful the Note 4 would ever have it, because it isn't just a simple software upgrade needed. There are hardware issues also.
That shouldn't be a reason to not buy it though. As I said before unless you are getting an S3 no new sprint phone is going to have that capability.
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False.
The Note 2 and Note 3 could do it. I had both phones.
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ubigred said:
False.
The Note 2 and Note 3 could do it. I had both phones.
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Ok great, and my phone right now is an S3, and I did not have the info on the Note 2 or 3 but I assumed they didn't have it. My mistake. So they do it also. My point is that no new Sprint phone will do it that has the Tri-Band LTE Spark network. It has to do with the hardware. So if you want a phone that does this you need to get a non Tri-Band/Spark phone. The trade off isn't worth it in my humble opinion because being able to use Tri-band LTE where I live will greatly fix some of the LTE capacity issues I am having right now on my S3.
Until Sprint does VoLTE (probably not until late 2015 to early 2016) this won't be possible. You can still do non-LTE data simultaneously just not LTE.
Let's keep it civil in here guys - don't make me come back for more cleaning or I'll close this thread.
I also moved it to Q&A since it's a question - please post in appropriate sections.
Thank you.
Would you be able to use Hangouts Dialer while using data? Or does the Hangouts Dialer only work with voice?
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pdaddy said:
Would you be able to use Hangouts Dialer while using data? Or does the Hangouts Dialer only work with voice?
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The hangouts dialer only uses data connection - no voice connectivity
For last month I used about 3 minutes of talk time. Voice is actually not important to me at all but I know when Spark was launched it was discovered that Data/Voice could not be simultaneous and it upset alot of people. One of the unfortunate limitation of Spark.
gpvlog said:
For last month I used about 3 minutes of talk time. Voice is actually not important to me at all but I know when Spark was launched it was discovered that Data/Voice could not be simultaneous and it upset alot of people. One of the unfortunate limitation of Spark.
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Yea, it's unfortunate.
I am willing to bet my unborn son, that Sprint executives knew of that limitation and didn't say anything. Bastards!!
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Just my 2 cents. Any phone on 4G LTE on the sprint network can do voice and data at the same time. 3G you cannot unless it is the S3 because of the SVDO chip which has been discussed by others.
MrGameW1nner said:
Just my 2 cents. Any phone on 4G LTE on the sprint network can do voice and data at the same time. 3G you cannot unless it is the S3 because of the SVDO chip which has been discussed by others.
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This statement is false any spark device cannot.
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This statement is false any spark device cannot.
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I did not say Spark. I was referring to 4G LTE. Two different things.
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I did not say Spark. I was referring to 4G LTE. Two different things.
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Sprint's spark is enhanced 4g lte.
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that was what t I was trying to tell the OP before he got rude about it. Tri-Band LTE=Spark=No simultaneous voice/data. Until they release Voice over LTE(VoLTE) this capability will not be available in any spark capable phone.
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Tri-Band LTE=Spark=No simultaneous voice/data. Until they release Voice over LTE(VoLTE) this capability will not be available in any spark capable phone.
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Agree.
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this makes sense that simultaneous data and voice will not work over Spark. If the third channel is one use by 3G, which is use to make the data more reliable. 3G was not possible to have voice and data at the same time on Sprint.
Not that I use voice very often, I can see this being a slight irritation from time to time. Although, you'll be able to use voice and WiFi since they're two different radios.
If I didn't already buy this phone this would be a huge deal breaker for me. I didn't realize I would not be able to talk and surf. I do that all the time. I use my data and phone all the time. I hated having a 3g phone not because of the slow speeds but because I couldn't talk and surf without wifi. How does this affect google maps while talking?
Silent25r said:
If I didn't already buy this phone this would be a huge deal breaker for me. I didn't realize I would not be able to talk and surf. I do that all the time. I use my data and phone all the time. I hated having a 3g phone not because of the slow speeds but because I couldn't talk and surf without wifi. How does this affect google maps while talking?
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Do one or the other. Smh
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Do one or the other. Smh
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I don't understand your point. I use my bluetooth all the time so I can talk and surf. Why would I need to do one or the other unless the current tech doesn't allow me to do more?
I think in the case of navigation and voice, navigation caches the data it needs and allows voice calls during the process, just don't talk for hours while trying to get somewhere. ..lol
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