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[Q] Managing the SD Card and External SD Card

So, this device handles storage slightly differently than my HTC EVO 4G did. That, which pretty much needed an SD card for storage, mounted it in /mnt/sdcard/. This phone however, mounts the external SD card in /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/. I am guessing this is because this guy has 16GB internal storage already, and changes are if you were to dissect the phone, you'd probably find an SD card in there too.
I am thinking I'll just move my card contents over to internal storage. Programs that backup/restore data to /mnt/sdcard/ don't realize that this path isn't actually external storage.
I am wondering how this will affect those of us that frequently reflash. Does that partition get wiped when the ROM is wiped? Or is it really just another SD card internally that isn't touched by the system kernel or ROM except for storing user data?

I also have another Q, that's not online with the OP exactly but related to the topic. I'm coming from an e4g to the et4g and plan on using my sdcard from the e4g in the et4g (at least until I buy a 32gb card). I notice that there are many system files on the sdcard from the e4g, are these gonna be an issue with the et4g?
also, I was thinking to make a backup of the card as is to a hard drive, then delete all the files and reformat the card (fresh start), then add back only those I feel are necessary (backup apks, titanium backup files, pics & vids)....is this feasible?
lastly, are there any "don't touch" files on the scard that I should be aware of.
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KaliS-Pugilist said:
I also have another Q, that's not online with the OP exactly but related to the topic. I'm coming from an e4g to the et4g an plan on using my sdcard from the e4g
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So, what is your question? You should be able to move the card, but like I stated, the paths seem to be different. It may be the same for you since both devices are Samsung, but maybe not.

muzicman82 said:
So, what is your question? You should be able to move the card, but like I stated, the paths seem to be different. It may be the same for you since both devices are Samsung, but maybe not.
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sorry, mistakenly hit the submit button before putting my questions (hate when that happens)....
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KaliS-Pugilist said:
I also have another Q, that's not online with the OP exactly but related to the topic. I'm coming from an e4g to the et4g and plan on using my sdcard from the e4g in the et4g (at least until I buy a 32gb card). I notice that there are many system files on the sdcard from the e4g, are these gonna be an issue with the et4g?
also, I was thinking to make a backup of the card as is to a hard drive, then delete all the files and reformat the card (fresh start), then add back only those I feel are necessary (backup apks, titanium backup files, pics & vids)....is this feasible?
lastly, are there any "don't touch" files on the scard that I should be aware of.
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There shouldn't be anything you shouldn't touch. As far as I know, I think a program like Titanium Backup will archive everything.
What I would do is use Titanium Backup to backup old phone and restore to new phone. Then start the programs you use with personalized data at least once. If you end up with paths on both the phone storage and external storage, move the external over to the phone, replacing/combining.
I ended up doing this and found that my external SD card is now empty.. Starting clean!
It's pretty amazing how far 16GB built into a phone can go. I don't use my phone for movie watching or music often, so we'll see. Maybe I will.

I just notced on the e4g that there are 2 paths that both seem to lead to the same. destination file.
one is: /mnt/sdcard
the other is: /sdcard
the content is exactly the same. not sure if that info helps you any.
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KaliS-Pugilist said:
I just notced on the e4g that there are 2 paths that both seem to lead to the same. destination file.
one is: /mnt/sdcard
the other is: /sdcard
the content is exactly the same. not sure if that info helps you any.
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Shouldn't make a difference. I think there are two mounts to support applications that look to just /sdcard.

May i have 3rd grade level instructions on how to move all the contents from my sd card(evo) into the internal memory please?
Thanks,
Ian B

Mr Ian B said:
May i have 3rd grade level instructions on how to move all the contents from my sd card(evo) into the internal memory please?
Thanks,
Ian B
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Once you move the SD Card from your EVO 4G to the Epic 4G Touch, attach a USB cable to your PC. In the notification area on the phone, you have to touch the USB Connected status and then touch the button that says "Connect USB storage".
This will mount TWO removable disks. One will be the size of your SD Card. The other will come in at around 11.5GB. The 11.5GB is the internal storage.
Just use Windows to move everything over. You may want to back up both before you make changes just in case.
If the hardware doesn't mount in Windows, you may need to install the drivers first. They are installed with Samsung Kies, which is on their site.
If you need more info, let me know.

muzicman82 said:
There shouldn't be anything you shouldn't touch. As far as I know, I think a program like Titanium Backup will archive everything.
What I would do is use Titanium Backup to backup old phone and restore to new phone. Then start the programs you use with personalized data at least once. If you end up with paths on both the phone storage and external storage, move the external over to the phone, replacing/combining.
I ended up doing this and found that my external SD card is now empty.. Starting clean!
It's pretty amazing how far 16GB built into a phone can go. I don't use my phone for movie watching or music often, so we'll see. Maybe I will.
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ok thanks...im thinking to do this. im going to back up the entire sdcard on my PC (and ext HD) before i do anything.
also, i see about 15 files that have a "." prefix, ex) ".dataviz" are these system files for the apk's that are installed? should these be deleted or just leave and if i find it has been created on the phones storage just move it over?
anyways...my et4g just came in today, so after work i'm going in my cave to unbox and forget about the rest of the world.

[Q] Set Default Storage

Looking for a way to set folders to install to EXTERNAL SD card (Not the actual apps). Not like apps2SD...just the folders the apps create for settings and such.
You can specify what location/folder to store pictures taken with the camara too, be it internal or external SD.
This is a setting in the camara app...but most apps dont provide an option like this.
Example:>
We have System, Internal, and if you install External micro SD.
You install Titanium Backup, or other apps that can back up stuff and their own settings, i.e. backup GO launcher settings. When you make your Titanium Backup(s) it creates a folder on INTERNAL storage. Now in the event that something (un-thinkable ) happens to your phone like dropping in water or ran over by MACK truck etc...(you get the point) you can't get it to power on you wont be able to get to any of your files on internal SD. Hopefully your External micro SD would survive and you could take it out, in one of the above examples.
So...that's why I ask if this can be done to bypass the INTERNAL SD in a way. I would actually use the internal for music and movies and put files that I want to make sure stay safe on the EXTERNAL SD. Most of us transfer mp3's and movies etc...from computer so we have copies.
Yeah one could just backup the INTERNAL SD from time to time. But we all know how sometimes this is overlooked.
Not sure if it's something about the way Samsung partitoned the storage or in EEPROM settings or something. On cyanogen mod roms though it had a setting that allowed for this. Phones with less internal storage like HD2 stored the apps on internal and their created folders to external card if one is installed, makes me lean towards the sofware.
P.S. if just move those folders to the External SD the apps dont look their for them.
Thanks for all feedback!

the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card

AllGamer said:
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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I wish I could DEV but um more of a tester ! I downloaded some kitchens before but just couldn't get anything going so gave up. Guess I know my place. HAHA
Link2SD sounds like it may work I have to try it. It gives plenty of options!
Thanks

Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible

elflip88 said:
Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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Wow thanks...I knew you could change the location, but that's new to me the DETECT feature that's cool.
AllGamer said:
but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Yeah my point...Getting them to the SD is no problem its the apps wont look their unless they have the option to change default location like above mentioned titanium settings.
Side note: seen the post from Cyanogenmod about CM7 being "in progress" the option is there to set default under applications so all shall be fine soon for this anyway.

AllGamer said:
but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Were you talking about my post? If so then all the apps do work properly, its just moving the backups you make on titanium to the sd card, not the app itself
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i'm not talking about backups, i'm talking about Apps that are moved forcefully to run from SD, you can do that using TI
but some Apps behaves erratically after that, only SD compatible Apps are unaffected

[Q] i just bought MicroSD 32GB

how i can move the apps that on the Old microSD to the new one ?

kingston951 said:
how i can move the apps that on the Old microSD to the new one ?
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The easiest n safest way for me..
1. Backup your old apps using titanium backups
2. Copy titanium backups folder from your old SD card to the new one..
3. Insert your new SD card to your phone, restore it using titanium back up.
4. done.

thnx

kingston951 said:
how i can move the apps that on the Old microSD to the new one ?
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Another good method is to create a backup folder on your PC and copy your old sdcard there. Then copy it back to the new card. This has the advantage of giving you a backup in case of failure of the sdcard or the Titanium Backup not restoring properly.
Of course, if you're really OCD like I am, you could do both!
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netizenmt said:
Another good method is to create a backup folder on your PC and copy your old sdcard there. Then copy it back to the new card. This has the advantage of giving you a backup in case of failure of the sdcard or the Titanium Backup not restoring properly.
Of course, if you're really OCD like I am, you could do both!
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first, i already backed up on my PC
second, i dont have titanuim backup (i cant install it)

kingston951 said:
first, i already backed up on my PC
second, i dont have titanuim backup (i cant install it)
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First, don't be a douchebag.
Second, delete useless apps.
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if i backup all my files on the new micro, its will save the apps on it ?

No, it will save the data on it (if present). You will have to reinstall your apps, or restore them using Titanium Backup, as mentioned before. You will need root access for the last one.

someone have "titanuimback" zip for cwm ?

I don't know if there's titanium backup .zip..
why u can't install titanium backup...?
Is your device already rooted..?

yes, but i cant install it, its says that i dont have enough memory.
but i have 90Mb free.

OMG
I just move the apps on SDcard to phone (by link2SD)
and then i tried to install titanuim backup and it worked.
i guess that its installing on SDcard.
bb, thnx for the helpers

I would use my external memory card reader that I use for my Mac and plug it into my eePC and the built in sd card reader. Then all I do is copy the files straight over to my new card no problem. If I didn't have that option then I might make a disk image of my current sd card and have my new card be restored from that image. That way I could be sure that the new card is EXACTLY the same as my old one. I've burned disk images like this so I can install Linux onto a computer and I don't see why it won't work for an sd card.
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[Q] Deleting Nandroid from Internal SD card.

Hello everyone, I am new to rooting and accidentally installed a nandroid to my internal sd card while trying to put it on my external sd card. I plugged my phone into my computer and deleted the backup files from the Clockwork folder. For some reason though, it keeps showing on my phone in Miscellaneous files that Clockwork mod recovery is taking up a little less than 2gb. Can someone help me fix this?
Thanks in advance!

logammo said:
Hello everyone, I am new to rooting and accidentally installed a nandroid to my internal sd card while trying to put it on my external sd card. I plugged my phone into my computer and deleted the backup files from the Clockwork folder. For some reason though, it keeps showing on my phone in Miscellaneous files that Clockwork mod recovery is taking up a little less than 2gb. Can someone help me fix this?
Thanks in advance!
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When you plug into the computer you will see:
Phone (This is really the internal sdcard)
Sdcard (This is the external sdcard)
If you want to get them off the internal sdcard you need to delete them from the phone folder and leave them in the sdcard folder.

logammo said:
Hello everyone, I am new to rooting and accidentally installed a nandroid to my internal sd card while trying to put it on my external sd card. I plugged my phone into my computer and deleted the backup files from the Clockwork folder. For some reason though, it keeps showing on my phone in Miscellaneous files that Clockwork mod recovery is taking up a little less than 2gb. Can someone help me fix this?
Thanks in advance!
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I'd familiarize yourself with a file explorer like esfile explorer (best one imo) and you can delete these backups on your phone from your phone, doesn't matter if it's on the internal sd or external sd.

epic4GEE said:
I'd familiarize yourself with a file explorer like esfile explorer (best one imo) and you can delete these backups on your phone from your phone, doesn't matter if it's on the internal sd or external sd.
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I downloaded root browser lite and I cant seem to find CWM in the internal SD folders.

epic4GEE said:
I'd familiarize yourself with a file explorer like esfile explorer (best one imo) and you can delete these backups on your phone from your phone, doesn't matter if it's on the internal sd or external sd.
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I agree, except that my favorite is Total Commander.
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logammo said:
I downloaded root browser lite and I cant seem to find CWM in the internal SD folders.
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I use twrp but I still have my stock rooted rom saved with cwm, unless you deleted the folder it should be in the clockworkmod folder

Ok everyone so it seems that I deleted the backup but CWM is still taking up 1.6gb of internal storage. Is this normal, or is this the nandroid I deleted that is still showing?

Newer versions of cwm also store other data (cont remember the name of the folder) to support incremental backups. Maybe that is still there?
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logammo said:
Ok everyone so it seems that I deleted the backup but CWM is still taking up 1.6gb of internal storage. Is this normal, or is this the nandroid I deleted that is still showing?
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That's too much data to be residual, I'd say your backup is in a folder some place in the internal sd

epic4GEE said:
That's too much data to be residual, I'd say your backup is in a folder some place in the internal sd
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Where should I check?

Idk where it would be if not in the cwm folder, did you try rebooting your phone just to be sure it didn't go tard on you after you deleted it and is now giving you a false reading?

Something I was thinking about is just wiping my internal and external sd card to start fresh. What effect would this have on my root and unlocked bootloader?

OK so I found the problem. I never deleted the blobs files. This is what is taking up so much space. Is it safe to delete these files?
EDIT: I went into CWM recovery and selected free nandroid space and it deleted the blobs not associated with a backup.

logammo said:
OK so I found the problem. I never deleted the blobs files. This is what is taking up so much space. Is it safe to delete these files?
EDIT: I went into CWM recovery and selected free nandroid space and it deleted the blobs not associated with a backup.
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Ahh good a happy ending

Yup. The blobs. That is the incremental data that I was talking about before. That is what the new version of cwm uses to avoid duplicating data in successive backups.
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Internal memory folders changed after J.B Kies update?

Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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RPK925 said:
Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?

hednik said:
That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.

hednik said:
That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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i'll try not to rant too hard but Kies and OTA firmware updates are a joke. you are essentially dirty flashing one rom over another with no real clearing of caches, no resetting, no way for all the programs to regroup, rebuild and run on the system hardware/software properly. the thing about dirty flashing is, it sticks well with some devices but generally not with many others. you'll see these types of issues many times among the avid flashers and those that must have the latest release of a developers rom.
i would recommend backing everything up, booting into stock recovery, wiping data/factory reset and wiping cache. if you decide to perform another update via kies in the future, i would do this procedure before AND after the update.
yes, you have to start over when you perform these sorts of actions but you have to ask yourself, are you happy with how your device is performing now (before the update)? is it worth starting over? (it might be if you're going to run on the updated OS for a year or so) and how well do you want it to perform after you install the update?
cheers
EDIT: i just assume everyone accesses recovery and download mode so i didnt post the button combo. recovery is: Volume Up + Home + Power. release just the power button when you get a vibrate.

RPK925 said:
Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory.
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This is normal for a 16GB SGS3. 16GB is advertised but actual formatted available space is less. 11.95GB is right on par. This is the case for just about all devices that have memory that is writable, including hard drives on a computer.
RPK925 said:
I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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Any particular reason why you are using Apps2sd? $10 to $20 will land you an external memory card with huge amounts of space (32GB at least). This is plenty to store music, photos, and other misc. files. And even with a ton of apps installed to internal, you still should have ample space left over. There is just no good reason to use Apps2sd on this phone as it has so much internal memory. If this is just to keep you from losing data, then I would suggest rooting and using an app such as Titanium Backup as it makes it super easy to restore apps and the corresponding data after anything that requires a factory reset.
simonMac777 said:
Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.

As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
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Actually i did.
After the update, without factory reset, everything was (almost) fine… except a strange malfunction of the Gps (lock signal lost after a while) and sporadic reboot without reason. For the Gps I’ve found here the solution (NV Rebuild), but for the reboot… I wasn’t sure about it. So I decided for a factory reset. After that my ext card, with the ICS paths, was not recognized. So bucked up everything, format the ext card and let Kies sync my files and create all the folders needed from JB: Camera Photo Video for pictures, and media for the music. Now I’m let’s say 90% ready to go… I’m curios to test especially the Gps.