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HSPA+

I was just wondering if there was an app that showed when I was actully on HSPA+ or just 3G cause as far as I can tell its either H, E or G. I've yet to see 3G. Id like to be able to see without going to settings, about phone, status. Cause I want to run speed tests on HSPA+.
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I think if you go to phone status. You would be connected under umts which would be 3g or hspa as hspa+ but hspa n umts its technically the same thing. It never shows hspa+ even though I live within the coverage with hspa+
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That would explain why my speed test have been the same on umts and hspad on the status section =( thx mate
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When in a HSPA+ area your phone should show HSDPA under About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type. The 'H' indicator will show no matter what 3G network you're connected to. I'm assuming T-Mobile did this to avoid confusion between 3G and HSPA+ which is technically still 3G.

Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

Snuggl3s said:
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.

mark925 said:
I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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Yes it would. I'd give it a try but I'm clueless on how to make an app =(
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

I have been using Netswidget. It seems to do the job, possibly a little buggy still at times. But it does show edge, umts and hsdpa on it. I even saw gprs the other day for a brief moment out in the sticks. But it seems to work fine for me.

I have mobile signal widget. Changes icon for edge, 3g, and hspa.
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Max download 0.89!
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,

Mobile Signal Widget for me also
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobile-signal-widget/com.empirical.widget.signal

Just because you are listed on the coverage map as being in the HSPA+ area the towers might not be actally all set up for the top speeds. I live in Massachusetts in a suburb of Boston where we are on the coverage map as being in HSPA+ area but the next town over is ony getting top speeds of around 950 kbps download. The network has not been stretched out to it's maximum yet, you will be getting your speed probably very soon. It is still very spotty. This has been my findings in the Boston area. One town in HSPA+ will get 750 MBPS download (very fast) and just a short distance away will only get top speeds of only 950 kbps (not bad) It will get better soon.

pateltjp said:
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
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Im also in VA and dont see "4g speeds" but it depends on certain areas just because your in "4g" area doesnt mean your going to see it, like if your inside in a building, or just in a bad coverage area. Ive actually did a speedtest under 2 different cell towers and the most I ever got was 5down. They say the g2 is capable of doing like 14, but I dont think anyone is ever going to get that I would say 10 the most.

In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".

agsr4ever said:
In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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I've not heard of anyone seeing an 'H+' on the phone... *going to read manual*

Connection type?

Why does my connection type sometimes say UMTS?
What is that?
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Tmobile use UMTS bands.
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Oh ok cause sometimes in my house it switches from hspda to umts.
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Yeah, I've connected to GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+
Nothing to worry about and nothing abnormal.

Cool, thanks bro!
Btw, how's hspa+? I haven't been able to connect to it..
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How can you tell what protocol the phone is on?
How can you tell whether the phone is using HSPA, HSPA+, GPRS etc? Can't tell from lousy signal indicator on the phone. thanks!

HSPDA and HSPA+
I have yet to see any proof of anyone being on HSPA+. I have connected to every network type except HSPA+. You can check this by going into Settings > About Phone > Status, and there you can see which network you are connected to under "Mobile Network Type". I want a screen shot of somebody who is on HSPA+, because I've never gotten above HSPDA which is supposedly "3.5G" roughly (and I'm surprised no one has addressed this in any of these threads, I'm even more surprised people don't know how to check this).
Anyways, I want to see a G2 or a MT4G that is connected to HSPA+. I live in NYC and Washington, DC and I have never connected to it.
My G2 is still quite fast so I'm not complaining, I just want proof.

garyham said:
How can you tell whether the phone is using HSPA, HSPA+, GPRS etc? Can't tell from lousy signal indicator on the phone. thanks!
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Read my post.

Has anyone seen a "3" (for 3G?) TMo tech support told me that is what will show up in a 3G area. I have only seen H or E...

Jorsher said:
Yeah, I've connected to GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+
Nothing to worry about and nothing abnormal.
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Can you post a screen shot of your connection to HSPA+? It's not that I don't believe you specifically, I just want to see it with my own eyes. Settings>About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type
Pleae post a screen shot when you're connected to HSPA+, not just HSPDA. My understanding is that the G2's cannot connect to HSPA+, only HSPDA. It doesn't change the fact that T-Mobile is building an HSPA+ network, we just can't conenct to it with the radios in our G2's. So yea, prove it please.

GT-I9250 Galaxy Nexua - Fido in Canada

Hi,
Might be one of a few having the galaxy nexus GT-I9250 in Canada.. I tuned on the phone and it found Fido and it worked. I get 3g and H on the signal bar. How do i k ow if I have hspa + or 4g lte on the phone? Will it show 4g or H+?
Speed test gets only around 1 meg down...
Fido and rogers are one, according to service map by rogers HSPA+ is in Ottawa and soon LTE. Will they prevent Fido users from 4g?
Any settings I have to enter on phone to get the higher speeds? Anyone in Canada has this working?
Thanks a lot for any insight u might have...
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forget LTE it will not work (for CDMA networks like Bell/Telus)
get the GSM version to work

The phone doesn't have LTE. It has GSM and HSPA+.
As far as speeds, you're going to have to talk to other Fido users in the same area and see their speeds (or other phones you own with the same SIM card). There may be some changes to the APNs you can do to increase speeds, again you're going to want to ask Fido users.

as for knowing how fast you are going
it's simply a matter of speed
in Canada normal H+ speed is around 8 Mbps down at best
if you seed speed that goes beyond 16 Mbps, you are most likely on "4G"
there's no real 4G if you check Wikipedia
all the current LTE / 4G technology are fake
they are more like 3.5G = H+, so "4G/LTE" is actually more like 3.75G
the real 4G is on WiMax radio which is not very popular in many places and phones

Is there a version that supports lte? All over web they say galaxy nexus lte...
If anyone lives in ottawa and has Fido, please share ur experience and settings.
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ssss25 said:
Is there a version that supports lte? All over web they say galaxy nexus lte...
If anyone lives in ottawa and has Fido, please share ur experience and settings.
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There is 1 version with LTE. And that is made for Verizon USA. You're probably only going to see the GSM/HSPA+ version in Canada.

Thanks all. OK, so hspa + I will forget about lte..
How do i know if my phone is connected to hspa+?
Will it has a plus sign on signal bar. If i go to settings, then about phone, then status. It shows the current connection, what should it be? Anybody has hspa+ can tell me what they see in status in setting and the signal icon on top?
I will be happy with around 8mb
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ssss25 said:
Thanks all. OK, so hspa + I will forget about lte..
How do i know if my phone is connected to hspa+?
Will it has a plus sign on signal bar. If i go to settings, then about phone, then status. It shows the current connection, what should it be? Anybody has hspa+ can tell me what they see in status in setting and the signal icon on top?
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So under connection it'll say "EDGE" on 2G, "UMTS" on 3G, and "HSDPA"/"HSPA+" on 3.5G/4G/H+ (depends what your carrier wants to call it).

i believe he was speaking about the ICON indicator on the status bar
it'll be either 3G in most areas, and in really go areas you'll see H+ or 4G depending on the ROM how it was coded for the signal quality strength
once you start flashing custom ROMs you'll notice that will change too, depending on the ROM Dev, it's all cosmetic eye candy
if you want to know the real deal install Open Signal from Market
it has a nice widget that tells you the true tower capacity

It fluctuates between
Umts:3 and hspa:11
The reason I ask about the plus is that there is hspa only.. no plus and i am not sure if the hspa:11 means plus or no plus.
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Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.

if there is no H+, then you are on 3G
ssss25 said:
Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
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but H also means H+
just cosmetic again

ssss25 said:
Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
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Like I said earlier, if under "status" you see UMTS then you're on 3g. If you see HSPA you're on "4g". What that means for speeds is up to Fido.
The ROM just has "H" icon I believe. You won't see H+.

First of all, Bell and Rogers are GSM networks and they support LTE, however the phone itself only supports HSPA+ 21mb/s. Only the CDMA Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus will support LTE.
Note: This is only as far as my knowledge extends to, and I don't accept any responsibility if anything goes wrong

Thanks for all the replies. I had a nexus one which only supports hspa, not hspa+ and i used to see Hspa there. That is why I was concerned if the hspa I am seeing is using the plus protocol which supports a much faster speed than hspa. This is why seeing an h only, or hspa in connection didn't give me a good feeling as i had it on my nexus one. Its the hspa+ that gives me the extra speed on the galaxy nexus and i wonders if its being used.
Thanks for all your help and comment guys.. I appreciate it

It seems like the Verizon LTE version will not work on Fido/Rogers or Bell/Telus (each of which seems to have their own LTE network)
If you want to do a good speed test while around the BC area, go to Whistler and then do a speedtest.net test (via the app).
I've had 6MB/s down on standard HSPA.

Thanks for the info.
I found that in ottawa if i use spedtest.net app I only get between 1 and 2. If I use open signal, another App on market, I get around 6mb/sec.
Thanks.

No 3g on GS4 T-Mobile?

Hello all!
I have an S4. It's fairly new. I like it and all, good phone. Anyway, my one beef is that I have 2 options for data service - 4g and Edge (no LTE here yet.) I wish that I could use 3g when 4g isn't available (edge is too slow) but nothing I've tried works... APN settings, cell network settings.... It's only 2g or 4g. I live in a reframed area (1900 MHz 3g... Cincinnati) which, according to the phone's specs, it should support. Tmobile support said on Twitter that it wouldn't get any 3g, but I like to take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since a flagship phone not getting 3g is pretty ridiculous.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Anyone know anything?
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I'll give you my best guess. T-mobile doesn't have 4G. They call it 4G, but it's really like 3.5G or HSPA. It will show on your phone as 4G though when you are connected to any "H" network or UMTS bands. When you go into menu> settings> more networks> mobile networks> network mode, you should set it to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect) to force 3.5G or 4G as tmo calls it.
I know this doesn't answer your question per se. Edge or "E" is slow as molasses. Verizon's 3G is almost as slow believe it or not (in my location).
Do you not have WIFI?

Or you can dial *#2263# and you will be in service mode. Choose Lte Gsm. It will force Lte

He doesn't have LTE
GS4

jbdan said:
I'll give you my best guess. T-mobile doesn't have 4G. They call it 4G, but it's really like 3.5G or HSPA. It will show on your phone as 4G though when you are connected to any "H" network or UMTS bands. When you go into menu> settings> more networks> mobile networks> network mode, you should set it to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect) to force 3.5G or 4G as tmo calls it.
I know this doesn't answer your question per se. Edge or "E" is slow as molasses. Verizon's 3G is almost as slow believe it or not (in my location).
Do you not have WIFI?
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Yeah, I understand that it's "3.5G" but there should be 3G too....not just "3.5G" and 2G...I'm wondering if I can get 3G on this and if not, why I don't. I have Wifi but not when I leave the house

In short the answer is no. Tmo has its network and it is the way it is. Were you with a cdma carrier (sprint / Verizon) before? Sounds like that's what you are looking for
GS4

No, AT&T and Cincinnati Bell before, never used CDMA.
I read that when T-Mobile upgraded their network, they replaced their 3g with 3.5g - leaving only a few small pockets of T-Mobile 3g remaining. Oh well, I guess that's why they're adding LTE - will be nice when they finally get their stuff straight around here!
Thanks for your help
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isoh said:
Yeah, I understand that it's "3.5G" but there should be 3G too....not just "3.5G" and 2G...I'm wondering if I can get 3G on this and if not, why I don't. I have Wifi but not when I leave the house
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I live in an area with lte but recently traveled to another city. While driving on the interstate I was getting anywhere from E (in middle of nowhere), 3G (near the city) and 4G (once in the city). So I know this phone is capable of 3G in area with no lte/4G
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I live in an area with lte but recently traveled to another city. While driving on the interstate I was getting anywhere from E (in middle of nowhere), 3G (near the city) and 4G (once in the city). So I know this phone is capable of 3G in area with no lte/4G
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Thanks! Must be just T-Mo's network then. At least I'll have 4g and LTE when they finally get it here.
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isoh said:
Hello all!
I have an S4. It's fairly new. I like it and all, good phone. Anyway, my one beef is that I have 2 options for data service - 4g and Edge (no LTE here yet.) I wish that I could use 3g when 4g isn't available (edge is too slow) but nothing I've tried works... APN settings, cell network settings.... It's only 2g or 4g. I live in a reframed area (1900 MHz 3g... Cincinnati) which, according to the phone's specs, it should support. Tmobile support said on Twitter that it wouldn't get any 3g, but I like to take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since a flagship phone not getting 3g is pretty ridiculous.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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If I remember correctly when t-mo started with "4g" the majority of the phones had 2 radios, one for 2g and one for 3/4g and it is basically the same way still. So you're never going to see anything in regards to 3g only. but even though your data connection icon may say 4g, u could technically be on 3g at the time.

4G vs LTE?

I just got my H815 and I went to Cricket and when I left she had turned on Mobile Data which is good but I had an 'H', so I turn the Network mode to LTE Auto, top option, and it now says 4G, but I thought that it needs to say LTE for top speeds?
I remembered seeing LTE somewhere, but I can't find it again.
So even though it says 4G, am I getting LTE or? The APN seems to be set up correctly.. so?

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I just got my H815 and I went to Cricket and when I left she had turned on Mobile Data which is good but I had an 'H', so I turn the Network mode to LTE Auto, top option, and it now says 4G, but I thought that it needs to say LTE for top speeds?
I remembered seeing LTE somewhere, but I can't find it again.
So even though it says 4G, am I getting LTE or? The APN seems to be set up correctly.. so?
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It will automatically switch to 4G/4G+ mode when the signal is good enough (=LTE, but the display will show 4G or 4G+ for LTE Advanced). If you have "H" or "H+" shown it's because the 4G signal is bad in your area and would probably be slower than a good H/H+ reception

I concur. International unlocked models (like mine) still show 4G, even when you set everything up correctly. Rest assured, you ARE getting LTE, it just doesn't say so on the screen.

As long as your completely sure.... Where can I go to check my signal strength and check my speeds?
I'm only getting 2/5 bars... that's not good..

The signal strength can be checked via Settings -> System -> About phone -> Network. It will show you the mobile network type and signal strength.
As said before the LG G4 will not show "LTE" as icon, but only 4G and 4G+. Also unfortunately there is no option to set it to "LTE" only. Just only "GSM" and only "WDCMA" (at least for my H815 Euro)
See this pic and envy my signal

My Mobile Network Type shows LTE, but right now it's 4G , so I guess when I'm in a better spot, I"ll get 4G+ which is LTE... But as of now I'm only getting 4G because of my signal strength? Which that is -112 28asu.

Broth3rz said:
My Mobile Network Type shows LTE, but right now it's 4G , so I guess when I'm in a better spot, I"ll get 4G+ which is LTE... But as of now I'm only getting 4G because of my signal strength? Which that is -112 28asu.
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As said the icon "4G" is LTE, and "4G+" is LTE Advanced, which is faster than LTE

ktwo said:
As said the icon "4G" is LTE, and "4G+" is LTE Advanced, which is faster than LTE
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My dads phone, not the H815, shows LTE but is only shows 2/5 bars also. So I guess it just shows he's connected for LTE but is most likely getting only 4G?

Broth3rz said:
My dads phone, not the H815, shows LTE but is only shows 2/5 bars also. So I guess it just shows he's connected for LTE but is most likely getting only 4G?
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Dude, ill explain again, 4G and LTE is the same thing, it's just that every manufacturer might show a different name/icon on it's ROM, the G4 uses the "4G" and "4G+" icons. Some Samsung phones show LTE / LTE+ etc.
Its the same thing Which one you get depends on the backend technology, it's not said that every LTE backend also supports LTE Advanced, even if you are next to it-

Alright, I'll see how it performs. what are usually 4G speeds?

On cricket, 4G speed is 4mbps and their LTE is 8mbps. Not the speeds of AT&T, but we pay half the price so I take the slower speeds. Plenty fast enough for me.
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ktwo said:
Dude, ill explain again, 4G and LTE is the same thing, it's just that every manufacturer might show a different name/icon on it's ROM, the G4 uses the "4G" and "4G+" icons. Some Samsung phones show LTE / LTE+ etc.
Its the same thing Which one you get depends on the backend technology, it's not said that every LTE backend also supports LTE Advanced, even if you are next to it-
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For us picky folk (I'm one that wants to *see* the LTE icon) after root, what can we change the build.prop to to show the LTE on the H815? I know on AT&T branded phones, you add klteatt to the build.prop. Would it be the same to get that icon?

I dont think its that easy, im not sure but if the actual picture are not in the rom its not enough to change some config file, then you would have to replace the pictures in the apk containing them (that would be the easiest way). I personally like the 4G more though, since it scales better than 3 letters and is more readable

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I dont think its that easy, im not sure but if the actual picture are not in the rom its not enough to change some config file, then you would have to replace the pictures in the apk containing them (that would be the easiest way). I personally like the 4G more though, since it scales better than 3 letters and is more readable
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This is defined in systemui/values/bools. If <bool name="config_show4GForLTE">false</bool> then it shows the LTE icon. If it is true it shows 4G. As ktwo said in matter of speed these refer to the same network, same speed. There are some confusing infos here around...

same phone (815) in Irish Meteor network (meteor sim): shows 4G and 4G+, Polish Play network (play sim): LTE and LTE+, Polish T-Mobile/Era (Meteor sim roaming): LTE