4G vs LTE? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my H815 and I went to Cricket and when I left she had turned on Mobile Data which is good but I had an 'H', so I turn the Network mode to LTE Auto, top option, and it now says 4G, but I thought that it needs to say LTE for top speeds?
I remembered seeing LTE somewhere, but I can't find it again.
So even though it says 4G, am I getting LTE or? The APN seems to be set up correctly.. so?

Broth3rz said:
I just got my H815 and I went to Cricket and when I left she had turned on Mobile Data which is good but I had an 'H', so I turn the Network mode to LTE Auto, top option, and it now says 4G, but I thought that it needs to say LTE for top speeds?
I remembered seeing LTE somewhere, but I can't find it again.
So even though it says 4G, am I getting LTE or? The APN seems to be set up correctly.. so?
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It will automatically switch to 4G/4G+ mode when the signal is good enough (=LTE, but the display will show 4G or 4G+ for LTE Advanced). If you have "H" or "H+" shown it's because the 4G signal is bad in your area and would probably be slower than a good H/H+ reception

I concur. International unlocked models (like mine) still show 4G, even when you set everything up correctly. Rest assured, you ARE getting LTE, it just doesn't say so on the screen.

As long as your completely sure.... Where can I go to check my signal strength and check my speeds?
I'm only getting 2/5 bars... that's not good..

The signal strength can be checked via Settings -> System -> About phone -> Network. It will show you the mobile network type and signal strength.
As said before the LG G4 will not show "LTE" as icon, but only 4G and 4G+. Also unfortunately there is no option to set it to "LTE" only. Just only "GSM" and only "WDCMA" (at least for my H815 Euro)
See this pic and envy my signal

My Mobile Network Type shows LTE, but right now it's 4G , so I guess when I'm in a better spot, I"ll get 4G+ which is LTE... But as of now I'm only getting 4G because of my signal strength? Which that is -112 28asu.

Broth3rz said:
My Mobile Network Type shows LTE, but right now it's 4G , so I guess when I'm in a better spot, I"ll get 4G+ which is LTE... But as of now I'm only getting 4G because of my signal strength? Which that is -112 28asu.
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As said the icon "4G" is LTE, and "4G+" is LTE Advanced, which is faster than LTE

ktwo said:
As said the icon "4G" is LTE, and "4G+" is LTE Advanced, which is faster than LTE
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My dads phone, not the H815, shows LTE but is only shows 2/5 bars also. So I guess it just shows he's connected for LTE but is most likely getting only 4G?

Broth3rz said:
My dads phone, not the H815, shows LTE but is only shows 2/5 bars also. So I guess it just shows he's connected for LTE but is most likely getting only 4G?
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Dude, ill explain again, 4G and LTE is the same thing, it's just that every manufacturer might show a different name/icon on it's ROM, the G4 uses the "4G" and "4G+" icons. Some Samsung phones show LTE / LTE+ etc.
Its the same thing Which one you get depends on the backend technology, it's not said that every LTE backend also supports LTE Advanced, even if you are next to it-

Alright, I'll see how it performs. what are usually 4G speeds?

On cricket, 4G speed is 4mbps and their LTE is 8mbps. Not the speeds of AT&T, but we pay half the price so I take the slower speeds. Plenty fast enough for me.
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ktwo said:
Dude, ill explain again, 4G and LTE is the same thing, it's just that every manufacturer might show a different name/icon on it's ROM, the G4 uses the "4G" and "4G+" icons. Some Samsung phones show LTE / LTE+ etc.
Its the same thing Which one you get depends on the backend technology, it's not said that every LTE backend also supports LTE Advanced, even if you are next to it-
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For us picky folk (I'm one that wants to *see* the LTE icon) after root, what can we change the build.prop to to show the LTE on the H815? I know on AT&T branded phones, you add klteatt to the build.prop. Would it be the same to get that icon?

I dont think its that easy, im not sure but if the actual picture are not in the rom its not enough to change some config file, then you would have to replace the pictures in the apk containing them (that would be the easiest way). I personally like the 4G more though, since it scales better than 3 letters and is more readable

ktwo said:
I dont think its that easy, im not sure but if the actual picture are not in the rom its not enough to change some config file, then you would have to replace the pictures in the apk containing them (that would be the easiest way). I personally like the 4G more though, since it scales better than 3 letters and is more readable
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This is defined in systemui/values/bools. If <bool name="config_show4GForLTE">false</bool> then it shows the LTE icon. If it is true it shows 4G. As ktwo said in matter of speed these refer to the same network, same speed. There are some confusing infos here around...

same phone (815) in Irish Meteor network (meteor sim): shows 4G and 4G+, Polish Play network (play sim): LTE and LTE+, Polish T-Mobile/Era (Meteor sim roaming): LTE

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HSPA+

I was just wondering if there was an app that showed when I was actully on HSPA+ or just 3G cause as far as I can tell its either H, E or G. I've yet to see 3G. Id like to be able to see without going to settings, about phone, status. Cause I want to run speed tests on HSPA+.
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I think if you go to phone status. You would be connected under umts which would be 3g or hspa as hspa+ but hspa n umts its technically the same thing. It never shows hspa+ even though I live within the coverage with hspa+
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That would explain why my speed test have been the same on umts and hspad on the status section =( thx mate
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When in a HSPA+ area your phone should show HSDPA under About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type. The 'H' indicator will show no matter what 3G network you're connected to. I'm assuming T-Mobile did this to avoid confusion between 3G and HSPA+ which is technically still 3G.
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
Snuggl3s said:
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
mark925 said:
I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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Yes it would. I'd give it a try but I'm clueless on how to make an app =(
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
I have been using Netswidget. It seems to do the job, possibly a little buggy still at times. But it does show edge, umts and hsdpa on it. I even saw gprs the other day for a brief moment out in the sticks. But it seems to work fine for me.
I have mobile signal widget. Changes icon for edge, 3g, and hspa.
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Max download 0.89!
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Mobile Signal Widget for me also
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobile-signal-widget/com.empirical.widget.signal
Just because you are listed on the coverage map as being in the HSPA+ area the towers might not be actally all set up for the top speeds. I live in Massachusetts in a suburb of Boston where we are on the coverage map as being in HSPA+ area but the next town over is ony getting top speeds of around 950 kbps download. The network has not been stretched out to it's maximum yet, you will be getting your speed probably very soon. It is still very spotty. This has been my findings in the Boston area. One town in HSPA+ will get 750 MBPS download (very fast) and just a short distance away will only get top speeds of only 950 kbps (not bad) It will get better soon.
pateltjp said:
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
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Im also in VA and dont see "4g speeds" but it depends on certain areas just because your in "4g" area doesnt mean your going to see it, like if your inside in a building, or just in a bad coverage area. Ive actually did a speedtest under 2 different cell towers and the most I ever got was 5down. They say the g2 is capable of doing like 14, but I dont think anyone is ever going to get that I would say 10 the most.
In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
agsr4ever said:
In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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I've not heard of anyone seeing an 'H+' on the phone... *going to read manual*

GT-I9250 Galaxy Nexua - Fido in Canada

Hi,
Might be one of a few having the galaxy nexus GT-I9250 in Canada.. I tuned on the phone and it found Fido and it worked. I get 3g and H on the signal bar. How do i k ow if I have hspa + or 4g lte on the phone? Will it show 4g or H+?
Speed test gets only around 1 meg down...
Fido and rogers are one, according to service map by rogers HSPA+ is in Ottawa and soon LTE. Will they prevent Fido users from 4g?
Any settings I have to enter on phone to get the higher speeds? Anyone in Canada has this working?
Thanks a lot for any insight u might have...
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forget LTE it will not work (for CDMA networks like Bell/Telus)
get the GSM version to work
The phone doesn't have LTE. It has GSM and HSPA+.
As far as speeds, you're going to have to talk to other Fido users in the same area and see their speeds (or other phones you own with the same SIM card). There may be some changes to the APNs you can do to increase speeds, again you're going to want to ask Fido users.
as for knowing how fast you are going
it's simply a matter of speed
in Canada normal H+ speed is around 8 Mbps down at best
if you seed speed that goes beyond 16 Mbps, you are most likely on "4G"
there's no real 4G if you check Wikipedia
all the current LTE / 4G technology are fake
they are more like 3.5G = H+, so "4G/LTE" is actually more like 3.75G
the real 4G is on WiMax radio which is not very popular in many places and phones
Is there a version that supports lte? All over web they say galaxy nexus lte...
If anyone lives in ottawa and has Fido, please share ur experience and settings.
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ssss25 said:
Is there a version that supports lte? All over web they say galaxy nexus lte...
If anyone lives in ottawa and has Fido, please share ur experience and settings.
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There is 1 version with LTE. And that is made for Verizon USA. You're probably only going to see the GSM/HSPA+ version in Canada.
Thanks all. OK, so hspa + I will forget about lte..
How do i know if my phone is connected to hspa+?
Will it has a plus sign on signal bar. If i go to settings, then about phone, then status. It shows the current connection, what should it be? Anybody has hspa+ can tell me what they see in status in setting and the signal icon on top?
I will be happy with around 8mb
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ssss25 said:
Thanks all. OK, so hspa + I will forget about lte..
How do i know if my phone is connected to hspa+?
Will it has a plus sign on signal bar. If i go to settings, then about phone, then status. It shows the current connection, what should it be? Anybody has hspa+ can tell me what they see in status in setting and the signal icon on top?
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So under connection it'll say "EDGE" on 2G, "UMTS" on 3G, and "HSDPA"/"HSPA+" on 3.5G/4G/H+ (depends what your carrier wants to call it).
i believe he was speaking about the ICON indicator on the status bar
it'll be either 3G in most areas, and in really go areas you'll see H+ or 4G depending on the ROM how it was coded for the signal quality strength
once you start flashing custom ROMs you'll notice that will change too, depending on the ROM Dev, it's all cosmetic eye candy
if you want to know the real deal install Open Signal from Market
it has a nice widget that tells you the true tower capacity
It fluctuates between
Umts:3 and hspa:11
The reason I ask about the plus is that there is hspa only.. no plus and i am not sure if the hspa:11 means plus or no plus.
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Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
if there is no H+, then you are on 3G
ssss25 said:
Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
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but H also means H+
just cosmetic again
ssss25 said:
Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
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Like I said earlier, if under "status" you see UMTS then you're on 3g. If you see HSPA you're on "4g". What that means for speeds is up to Fido.
The ROM just has "H" icon I believe. You won't see H+.
First of all, Bell and Rogers are GSM networks and they support LTE, however the phone itself only supports HSPA+ 21mb/s. Only the CDMA Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus will support LTE.
Note: This is only as far as my knowledge extends to, and I don't accept any responsibility if anything goes wrong
Thanks for all the replies. I had a nexus one which only supports hspa, not hspa+ and i used to see Hspa there. That is why I was concerned if the hspa I am seeing is using the plus protocol which supports a much faster speed than hspa. This is why seeing an h only, or hspa in connection didn't give me a good feeling as i had it on my nexus one. Its the hspa+ that gives me the extra speed on the galaxy nexus and i wonders if its being used.
Thanks for all your help and comment guys.. I appreciate it
It seems like the Verizon LTE version will not work on Fido/Rogers or Bell/Telus (each of which seems to have their own LTE network)
If you want to do a good speed test while around the BC area, go to Whistler and then do a speedtest.net test (via the app).
I've had 6MB/s down on standard HSPA.
Thanks for the info.
I found that in ottawa if i use spedtest.net app I only get between 1 and 2. If I use open signal, another App on market, I get around 6mb/sec.
Thanks.

Telus: 4G LTE turned into H+ ?

When I first got my galaxy s3, telus said it would come with 4g lte. It worked well and on the top notification section, it specifically said, 4g lte. Now I'm trying out custom roms and such, and I downloaded CM10. However, on CM10, the icon no longer says 4g lte, but it says H+. When I revert back to my old rom, it says 4G (ONLY 4G, no LTE at the end). Can anyone tell me why my data connection has been demoted, or if it has been demoted at all? Should I just give Telus a call and ask whats up with this?
And yes, LTE is available in my area, I'm in Vancouver.
Thanks
sulihpoeht said:
When I first got my galaxy s3, telus said it would come with 4g lte. It worked well and on the top notification section, it specifically said, 4g lte. Now I'm trying out custom roms and such, and I downloaded CM10. However, on CM10, the icon no longer says 4g lte, but it says H+. When I revert back to my old rom, it doesn't say 4G (i ahven't seen it say LTE at the end yet though). Anyone can tell me why my data connection has been demoted, or if it has been demoted at all? Should I just give Telus a call and ask whats up with this?
And yes, LTE is available in my area, I'm in Vancouver.
Thanks
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I have the same problem: I have ATT, since using custom ROM (TASK ROM) i have lost LTE, even though the APN settings are correct, the only way that i've have gotten LTE back is by going to the store and getting a NEW micro-SIM , then LTE works, and to answer your question, H+ is just HSDPA+ and 4G is LTE.
40mpg said:
I have the same problem: I have ATT, since using custom ROM (TASK ROM) i have lost LTE, even though the APN settings are correct, the only way that i've have gotten LTE back is by going to the store and getting a NEW micro-SIM , then LTE works, and to answer your question, H+ is just HSDPA+ and 4G is LTE.
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Thanks!
And just for clarification: when you got the new micro sim, were you able to combine both the custom rom and 4g lte? Or is it one or the other?
yeah apparently in canadian carriers, they're changing up things, like for example our rom on ics, i get 4g and LTE even tho im on 4g plan but s3 is LTE but some custom roms such as cm9,10,miui,aokp and so forth have things setup to h+ and for example even tho you might LTE speeds on cm10 via toggle of LTE on, it'll still show 4g meaning it is LTE but its just how structure in systemui is setup. eventually we all hope it'll change, best way to find your speeds and confirm what you're getting is Speed test via market and it'll tell u all.. hope it all helps
edit and it'll also depend which towers are setup in which configuration, such as if you're closer to main junction of cities for example Toronto for me, i'll get LTE like whoa but say im in brampton now it might have towers catching LTE but not as frequent hence it'll fallback on 4g.
AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE
BNaughty said:
AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE
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yeah like as i was saying structure is based upon that. the reason why those structures don't change is because vanilla roms aka aosp roms are not just based on 1 type of device but 1000 of devices so you can imagine, doing 1,000 different things, ahh id go nuts haha
wali01x said:
yeah like as i was saying structure is based upon that. the reason why those structures don't change is because vanilla roms aka aosp roms are not just based on 1 type of device but 1000 of devices so you can imagine, doing 1,000 different things, ahh id go nuts haha
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Well it's just a more accurate representation of what you are connected to... Despite what all the carriers say, the stock rom only saying 4g, is NOT 4g... it's 3.5g which is better represented with H, and H+.... Marketing schemes really... True 4G is LTE...
BNaughty said:
Well it's just a more accurate representation of what you are connected to... Despite what all the carriers say, the stock rom only saying 4g, is NOT 4g... it's 3.5g which is better represented with H, and H+.... Marketing schemes really... True 4G is LTE...
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yes sir, true it is marketing schemes haha i didn't wanna say it out loud but hey sometimes you gotta do those things to sell =) right ,as carrier perspective if they can sell all the stock for the devices and make the money they're happy, and we're happy lol.
I've noticed with my device that LTE coverage, at least in my local area, is fairly sparse, but occasionally present nevertheless.
If you're not seeing it at all, you might check that LTE is enabled in two places: check Settings -> More -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode for an LTE setting; and dial *#*#4636#*#* to pull up the Testing menu, go to Phone Information, and check "Set Preferred Network Type" for an LTE setting. Doing both of these allowed my phone to start seeing the LTE network.

G3 on LTE - how can you tell?

Hi guys
coming from a sony Xperia, the signal icon shows the text "LTE" by the signal if im connected to LTE, or H+ or etc.. it was easy for me to tell what type of data network im using.
with my new G3 i'm confused. it seems to only show "H"
Will the G3 show the same "LTE" text whenever I'm connnected to LTE? If NOT, then how the heck can we tell if we're on an LTE connection or not?
and lastly, on my experia (4.2) there is a setting called " LTE (Preferred) / WCDMA/GSM) " .. this allows my xperia to connect to LTE first as long as there is signal even if the 3G signal is stronger in the area, which i found very convenient. On G3 (4.4) what i can see is GSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto. <-- is this the same as LTE preffered or is this listed by priority w/ LTE being the least (w/c is not what i wanted!)
regards
It stays on LTE even if it got poor signal, atleast for me. Btw, there should be 4G sign if it is on LTE networks.
Does your Xperia ____ work with different bands than LG G3? Have you checked that out? G3 may not have the LTE/4G capabilities where you live.
My D851 displays them all which my Xperia ZL did not. 4G LTE, 4G, 3G, 2G.
Alright guys, mine is showing 4G (no LTE word) but i guess that's that. Thanks very much
BrownChiLD03 said:
Alright guys, mine is showing 4G (no LTE word) but i guess that's that. Thanks very much
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if it doesnt show the lte icon then you are not running lte. and even if you had the lte icon it could still be slow speeds. call t mobile and get yourself the lte booster for better reception and speeds
4g basically means LTE
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[Q] LG G3 F460S: LTE or 3G only on AT&T network in USA

Got a new F460S on Swappa and love it, but have one question: unlike my previous phone, this never shows a "4G" symbol when connected to the network. Does show LTE and is fine then, data connection very fast. But when out of LTE area, shows only 3G and never 4G, at the same locations where my previous device (Galaxy Note 3) did show 4G. The data connection does seem very slow when 3G is indicated. Is there any way to enable 4G for AT&T network on this device?
gregko1980 said:
Got a new F460S on Swappa and love it, but have one question: unlike my previous phone, this never shows a "4G" symbol when connected to the network. Does show LTE and is fine then, data connection very fast. But when out of LTE area, shows only 3G and never 4G, at the same locations where my previous device (Galaxy Note 3) did show 4G. The data connection does seem very slow when 3G is indicated. Is there any way to enable 4G for AT&T network on this device?
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I have the F460S on AT&T and I get LTE, 4G, 3G etc... I have only gotten 4G in some areas but I usually get LTE. I used speed test to see the speeds and it was 30mbs download and 15mbs upload which is definitely LTE. The phone may only show 4G because its more accurate than saying LTE which the Note may have improperly listed if it was an AT&T model. My wifes S5 which is the AT&T model will say LTE (it only says 3G, LTE and never 4G) and my G3 will have 4G. I think it has more to do with what the phone is programmed to display and obviously AT&T would rather say LTE than 4G.
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