Hi xda developers , I am pleased to be here
I have only one question and hope to get an answer for it
you know the Samsung Galaxy S4 came with new Smart features like Smart Scroll , pause , etc ...
is these features related to the S4 hardware itself , or just something is concerning with it's software?
if that related to it's Hardware , so no way to port that to another android device like S3
but if that related the the Software , so all android devices will get the smart features which is the S4
the S4 android version is 4.2.2 as you know , and S3 has now 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 , so the software is the same
so why the smart features is not working on S3? I know the 4.2.2 is just leak for S3 and not official but at least has the same features of S4 except the smart features
the second thing is if tat related to the S4 front camera and the proximity sensor , so it must work on S3 because S3 has the two things
I sow in android 4.2.1 which on the Samsung update site GT-I9300 ILO I9300XXUFMB3 after I flashed it on my S3 when I long press the smart stay icon I get 4 features :smart scroll , pause stay and rotation
but scroll and pause is not working , why that?
and I found a custom rom in this nice site called "Glamour S4" with all S4 features , but just icons and text , not working.
so is that features will not work in S3 or what? because if it will not work , I will buy S4 , but if it will work, then when that and with custom rom or official ?
please help me because I am from long time ago I am searching for that
by the way!
some developers in Israel name" Umoove" talked about Eye Tracking technology and I watched a video which shows the eye tracking seems to smart scroll working on s3
and some other teal developed same technology called "TheEyeTribe" but nothing is out yet
so please answer me if it will run on S3 or it is not available now?
thank you
loveandroidman said:
Hi xda developers , I am pleased to be here
I have only one question and hope to get an answer for it...
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That's a lot of questions, but it boils down to one thing: Will features from the S4 be ported to older-generation phones (S3, S2, etc.)?
The short answer is: most likely, eventually. Our Devs here are really good and most likely will be able to get most (if not all) of the features working.
The long answer is that there are quite a few hardware differences between the two devices, and while they both have "proximity sensors," the way the software interacts with the hardware varies greatly between the two. Think of it this way: Apple OS runs quite well on Macs, but if you try to install it on any PC (even high-end ones), it most-likely won't work (at the very least certain features won't work). You can make the argument that both have screens, hard drives, video cards, webcams, etc, but the software has been written specifically to interact with the hardware it was designed for: Macs. The same principal applies to our phones. While it's not impossible, it would take a very intimate knowledge of both the S3 and S4 in order to do it. It would also require extensive testing.
Sometimes porting to a new (or old) phone is (relatively) easy, such as with CM or PA Roms. This is because their source code is readily available and there are many Devs willing to help our porters.
Other times, it can be a difficult and arduous process. You can ask CNexus about it, as he has been creating a Sense 5 Rom.
They won't need to be ported, Samsung has anyway said we will receive all the"features"of the s4 with our next update, only time will tell when that's gonna be
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Can anyone Developer create the forum for Samsung Jét GT-S8000/3 in here xda..?
Samsung Jét looks same like Samsung Omnia II GT-I8000...
But Samsung S8000/3 is TouchWiz mobile (CPU 800MHz) and Samsung Jét can Run Android with JetQi Boot loader... (JetDroid)
it's nice if here xda-developers forum are forum for GT-S8000/3 ...
My Android Binaries for Samsung Jét:
code.google .com/p/android-for-jet/
and videos of my Android binaries is in youtube: CarlosJacksonHD
Heya!
Since i had a samsung JET(my touch screen is screwed due to some "pressure" with another phone inside my pocket), i was reading abt jetdroid, but never came across any conclusion about it. is that already possible, i mean, would that worth fixing it? speed, functions and everything? By your video, i noticed that it already works, but worth it?
Hello, I'm sorry for bringing up this dead topic. I would like to know if there has been a progress in this? Thanks!
Still waiting for Jetdroid...
I like my S8000 but the Samsung custom OS on it is too limited and they stopped support (updates) very early.
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Still waiting for Jetdroid...
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@Exnor I also like my S8000 very much, but I don't think so many people are interested in Jetdroid project.
Actually, it is very well described and easy to find in internet (although, unfortunatelly not on the XDA site). Did you install CM7 on your S8000?
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@Exnor I also like my S8000 very much, but I don't think so many people are interested in Jetdroid project.
Actually, it is very well described and easy to find in internet (although, unfortunatelly not on the XDA site). Did you install CM7 on your S8000?
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Hi,
I've tried a early port and ride along with it since i've stop using my s8000 :/ in favor of my Galaxy nexus...
Its really sad to see such a good phone not getting more support ... the Jét still have a more decent hardware than the low end Android phones.
Thanks for the tip
Old good S8000 Jet
@Exnor I know what you mean, I have also been using my Galaxy S i9000 last two years But I want to revive it as my second phone again now.
Flashing the S8000 and upgrading it with Android OS is a real adventure with running Ubuntu in virtual box etc.
One of the guys who is still actively working on the Jetdroid project attends to build in the close future the ROM which uses linaro! It would give to old, good S8000 a real Jet speed.
There is also a CM10.2 ROM uploaded less than 2 weeks ago, look here:
http://code.google.com/p/android-for-jet/downloads/list
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@Exnor I know what you mean, I have also been using my Galaxy S i9000 last two years But I want to revive it as my second phone again now.
Flashing the S8000 and upgrading it with Android OS is a real adventure with running Ubuntu in virtual box etc.
One of the guys who is still actively working on the Jetdroid project attends to build in the close future the ROM which uses linaro! It would give to old, good S8000 a real Jet speed.
There is also a CM10.2 ROM uploaded less than 2 weeks ago, look here:
http://code.google.com/p/android-for-jet/downloads/list
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Thanks mate i'm going to give it a look.
This is not a place to post forum requests.
Closed.
I'm used to working with pens on my laptop so I plan on using the phone's pen a lot.
But I also really like to run modded ROMs.
So my question is:
Will the phone's 'S Pen' (and pen-pressure) work with other ROMs?
It should work, S Pen is connected to touchwiz, and as i know, most custom roms to samsung based on touchwiz so it should work. If you ask if it works with other launchers, then i don't know..
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white-k said:
I'm used to working with pens on my laptop so I plan on using the phone's pen a lot.
But I also really like to run modded ROMs.
So my question is:
Will the phone's 'S Pen' (and pen-pressure) work with other ROMs?
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I believe it will only work with apps like sketchbook and so on, you will not be able to write on calendar , cut print screen etc... which is added inside the rom of the note2 not part of jellybean.
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tamirda said:
It should work, S Pen is connected to touchwiz, and as i know, most custom roms to samsung based on touchwiz so it should work. If you ask if it works with other launchers, then i don't know..
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yeah forgot about samsung based custom roms never used touchwiz only purchased google's own vanilla device.
IMO, the S pen features should work on all ROMs that are based on the Touchwiz framework. But unless the guys behind CyanogenMod and other devs (I'm looking at you @Codeworkx) manage to create something magical, the S pen features won't work on anything other than Stock based custom ROMs. Hope that helped!
I think the S Pen will not be very useful with AOSP ROMS like CM10 or AOKP once they are available since there is no S Note.
The S-Pen will function normally on touchwiz based roms. Gestures and S-note/memo wont be available in AOSP based ROMs though. Although there are some great replacement apps like memo from the play store. Its what I currently use on my N1
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IMO, the S pen features should work on all ROMs that are based on the Touchwiz framework. But unless the guys behind CyanogenMod and other devs (I'm looking at you @Codeworkx) manage to create something magical, the S pen features won't work on anything other than Stock based custom ROMs. Hope that helped!
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Thanks for the replies fellows.
I'm crossing my fingers (but not holding my breath) that they indeed do create "something magical".
white-k said:
Thanks for the replies fellows.
I'm crossing my fingers (but not holding my breath) that they indeed do create "something magical".
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Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
Try Papyrus Beta for a note app replacement!
all i see is I9300 gets this I9300 gets that! bla bla wile we I710 users are at a standstill!
now i dont know how many I710 devs we have here but im sure you guys are tired of it as well.
Its like one brother getting more stuff then the other brother, spec wise i am aware that the I9300 has the quad core and the exynos chipset thing going on but they lack ram! we have 2gb they only have 1. and when it comes to android OS especially JB and above processor is not everything android os is getting lighter believe or not so dual care is plenty for now and where it counts even RAM footprint is lighter with kitkat.
now i have been developing for the xperia play for some time now but now i have moved on to this galaxy s3. despite the knowledge i have from xperia play, Xperia and Samsung are very different hardware and software changes so that being said i am a noob again now relearning the android basics for the galaxy S3. now im not sure how hard it is to port to the galaxy S3 but i have tried and im stuck at bootanimation. but back to topic I want to learn to port roms from the I9300 to our I710 so that we also can enjoy the latest updates. I encourage other devs to also give it a try:good:
just my 2 cents
xdarkmario said:
all i see is I9300 gets this I9300 gets that! bla bla wile we I710 users are at a standstill!
now i dont know how many I710 devs we have here but im sure you guys are tired of it as well.
Its like one brother getting more stuff then the other brother, spec wise i am aware that the I9300 has the quad core and the exynos chipset thing going on but they lack ram! we have 2gb they only have 1. and when it comes to android OS especially JB and above processor is not everything android os is getting lighter believe or not so dual care is plenty for now and where it counts even RAM footprint is lighter with kitkat.
now i have been developing for the xperia play for some time now but now i have moved on to this galaxy s3. despite the knowledge i have from xperia play, Xperia and Samsung are very different hardware and software changes so that being said i am a noob again now relearning the android basics for the galaxy S3. now im not sure how hard it is to port to the galaxy S3 but i have tried and im stuck at bootanimation. but back to topic I want to learn to port roms from the I9300 to our I710 so that we also can enjoy the latest updates. I encourage other devs to also give it a try:good:
just my 2 cents
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The I9300 is an unlocked GSM phone with no carrier affiliations. The phone is available in Korea...where Samsung is as well as the rest of the world. International, unlocked phones will ALWAYS get everything first or exclusively. You are in the Sprint forum...a CDMA, carrier update driven device. For this device to get similar features it needs to either be requested by Sprint, or suggested by Samsung...then approved by both, then to also meet any federal specifications if it affects the telephone/transmitting function at all. In order to do proper ports you need device trees, which in the past for AOSP ROMs has been driven by Cyanogenmod. You have seen that they have now gone commercial..with all the work they have put into every device, good for them. But that means less time and effort put into work on older devices. If you look in Themes and Apps you will see S5 this and S5 that, or Android L this or that.... apps and themeing elements can be ported more easily as piecemeal things. You will find that if you switch to a GSM carrier and phone you will be able to also use most I9300 ROMs. CDMA is a different animal.
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The I9300 is an unlocked GSM phone with no carrier affiliations. The phone is available in Korea...where Samsung is as well as the rest of the world. International, unlocked phones will ALWAYS get everything first or exclusively. You are in the Sprint forum...a CDMA, carrier update driven device. For this device to get similar features it needs to either be requested by Sprint, or suggested by Samsung...then approved by both, then to also meet any federal specifications if it affects the telephone/transmitting function at all. In order to do proper ports you need device trees, which in the past for AOSP ROMs has been driven by Cyanogenmod. You have seen that they have now gone commercial..with all the work they have put into every device, good for them. But that means less time and effort put into work on older devices. If you look in Themes and Apps you will see S5 this and S5 that, or Android L this or that.... apps and themeing elements can be ported more easily as piecemeal things. You will find that if you switch to a GSM carrier and phone you will be able to also use most I9300 ROMs. CDMA is a different animal.
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thanks for clearing some of that up for me.
But i was wondering, at the current time i dont care about phone data or signal because my phone is not activated at the moment and i dont know if i want to. does this make it easier to port roms to my sprint phone or do i still run the risk of bricking?
so far the basic and most important rules i know about porting to the galaxy s3 is dont downgrade the bootloader/modem and make sure to edit the meta-inf update-script to the correct blocks to avoid bricks.
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thanks for clearing some of that up for me.
But i was wondering, at the current time i dont care about phone data or signal because my phone is not activated at the moment and i dont know if i want to. does this make it easier to port roms to my sprint phone or do i still run the risk of bricking?
so far the basic and most important rules i know about porting to the galaxy s3 is dont downgrade the bootloader/modem and make sure to edit the meta-inf update-script to the correct blocks to avoid bricks.
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That sounds about right. You might also need a compatible kernel so as not to have wrong device trees.
Why is there complaints about this? Last I checked the International version is incapable of handing kitkat due to ram yet us with 2gb of ram already have it.
That's why I'm mad, we have more ram and still neglected
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Usually when a New J series is out, our community of great developers are all over it finding ways to root and making rooms. Since the J4 has been out for a few months there hasn't been any sort of news or updates. Are there any teams working on it?
I'm afraid that the possibility is slim, since the J4 is not widely released (do correct me if I'm wrong) in the US, UK, or other big-market countries, but rather released in smaller-market countries in Africa, Asia, etc, and even so released rather quietly w/out major press releases. So unless the phone is widely released (relative to other Galaxy phones out there), I'm inclined to believe that such teams would have little to no access to the J4, and thus no development to progress for it.
(Believe me, I'm remaining optimistic that at least an unofficial recovery might be on the works, but there won't be much progress unless the J4 is more widely used/picked-up)
Or, you can learn how to do it yourself.
Not the TWRP porting, but you can definitely MOD your stock ROM to add features Samsung annoyingly disable for not being a "premium" device.
You don't need to know much of coding, you can learn as you go. When the J2 Prime was released (and even to this day) there aren't any custom ROMs so I had to teach myself and I've accomplished great things
Just wait for TWRP and then the doors will open, you'll see
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Or, you can learn how to do it yourself.
Not the TWRP porting, but you can definitely MOD your stock ROM to add features Samsung annoyingly disable for not being a "premium" device.
You don't need to know much of coding, you can learn as you go. When the J2 Prime was released (and even to this day) there aren't any custom ROMs so I had to teach myself and I've accomplished great things
Just wait for TWRP and then the doors will open, you'll see
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Huh, that's interesting; I'll surely take a look.
Could you further elaborate on the "features" that Samsung disabled? (I don't use a lot of Samsung G's built-in features, so I'm not too knowledgeable on such; tried Google-searching, only came up w/ disabling apps, so that didn't really help...)
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Huh, that's interesting; I'll surely take a look.
Could you further elaborate on the "features" that Samsung disabled? (I don't use a lot of Samsung G's built-in features, so I'm not too knowledgeable on such; tried Google-searching, only came up w/ disabling apps, so that didn't really help...)
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For starters, things like edge screen or scroll capture (things that I use a heck of a lot)
I found it funny is that all it took as to change a bit of code here and there, add the right apps and edge screen was working perfectly on the J2 Prime (a very low-end phone).
Samsung went out of their way to delete this feature which is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
Themes were also disabled for this device, but after reading a few guides I was able to implement a ROM control that allows the user to change the color to their liking
The dev community is always willing to lend a hand, just as long as you're not lazy and expect everything to be put out for you.
I feel the J4 can make a dev out of someone looking to add more functionality to their device (the J2 Prime made a dev out of me )
Ok, so the TWRPBuilder's experimental TWRP build (huge thanks to @yshalsager for this miracle) is on TWRPBuilder's site: twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/
Like any TWRP builds, there is ABSOLUTELY zero guarantee that it would work (I tried the first one & it didn't work, haven't had the chance to test the latest one yet)
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Ok, so the TWRPBuilder's experimental TWRP build (huge thanks to @yshalsager for this miracle) is on TWRPBuilder's site: twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/
Like any TWRP builds, there is ABSOLUTELY zero guarantee that it would work (I tried the first one & it didn't work, haven't had the chance to test the latest one yet)
The J4 uses identical chipset as the J5 prime G570F/M/DS.
I have both and they are great phones for their segment.
Sadly neither are well supported by ROM developers, due to the Exynos chip, I think.
missioner said:
The J4 uses identical chipset as the J5 prime G570F/M/DS.
I have both and they are great phones for their segment.
Sadly neither are well supported by ROM developers, due to the Exynos chip, I think.
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@yshalsager did a test custom recovery for J4 (via TWRPBuilder): https://twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/
Have been unable to test it atm (stuck in 7-day jail); if you want to have a go at it & let him know the results, go right ahead!
but first we have to unlock oem.but the problem is no oem unlock in the settings
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but first we have to unlock oem.but the problem is no oem unlock in the settings
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Yeah that's the 7-day "jail" I was talking about - theoretically you have to leave your phone on non-stop (no reboots, no shutdowns) for 7 whole days straight, then the OEM Unlock option should become available in Dev Settings (it's a confusing security measure by Samsung on Oreo devices)
any update guys? im really bored with this phone now
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guys can we root our device j4 using magisk?
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Do not spam, if you don't get an answer then that means that nobody is working on it
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Hi folks..
My mind simply has hard time to process why there's almost nothing custom for this Galaxy A71 or any other recent Galaxy phone? It's been already over 9 months A71 is on the market and there is no official TWRP support (neither OrangeFox).. No official custom ROMS like Resurrection Remix, Evolution X and neither LineageOS.. Pls don't count unofficial crap where you have missing basic functionality or decent camera.
I have left Samsung flag-ship world back in 2015 not willing to pay money for the development path they choose.. Anyway, I found shelter with Xiaomi since then and never experienced any deficit for custom made stuff. Now I bought A71 and am stunned with the fact there isn't any motivation to support it.. I have wrote to multiple telegram threads without any answers so asking here.. Is there some blocker from made by Samsung to start supporting Galaxy phones? Or just devs got tired of their sh***t.. Don't get me wrong, I liked Samsung a lot.. and now tried to come back when I got my hands on A71 - hardware wise excellent device but unfortunately will return due to lack of community around. And it isn't just this Galaxy phone - S20s, S10s, Note 20s, 10s.. previos A series...
Thanks for any comments..
MacGyver27 said:
Hi folks..
My mind simply has hard time to process why there's almost nothing custom for this Galaxy A71 or any other recent Galaxy phone? It's been already over 9 months A71 is on the market and there is no official TWRP support (neither OrangeFox).. No official custom ROMS like Resurrection Remix, Evolution X and neither LineageOS.. Pls don't count unofficial crap where you have missing basic functionality or decent camera.
I have left Samsung flag-ship world back in 2015 not willing to pay money for the development path they choose.. Anyway, I found shelter with Xiaomi since then and never experienced any deficit for custom made stuff. Now I bought A71 and am stunned with the fact there isn't any motivation to support it.. I have wrote to multiple telegram threads without any answers so asking here.. Is there some blocker from made by Samsung to start supporting Galaxy phones? Or just devs got tired of their sh***t.. Don't get me wrong, I liked Samsung a lot.. and now tried to come back when I got my hands on A71 - hardware wise excellent device but unfortunately will return due to lack of community around. And it isn't just this Galaxy phone - S20s, S10s, Note 20s, 10s.. previos A series...
Thanks for any comments..
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Blame Samsung for keep releasing broken kernel source, dev. Can't start if sammy keeps releasing sh*ty broken kernel source, until now 2.0 and 2.1 updates having broken kernel source. There is no other companies in the world that do such stupid thing except Sammy sh*t. Thanks! also we can rewrite the kernel to fix sammy mistakes but it needs a talented and dedicated dev.
Samsung has lost its reputation for being developer friendly long ago. At best you're only going to find some GSI that work on this phone. At worst, you won't find anything at all.